I had this with the youtuber and investigative journalist Johnny Harris. He has some good videos where he does deep dive investigative journalism but then in other videos he hears something and just accepts it as fact. For instance, in his video on who is Elon Musk he accepts what Musk said about his history as fact and didn't check any of it. Or he uses multiple sources all leading to the same source: Musk. So the entire video is a big Musk circlejerk promo video. But with other videos he doesn't accept something that easily and goes really deep to find the truth. So I googled the guy, apparently he's a devout Mormon. How can I take this guy seriously with anything if I can't trust him to check his sources properly every time, when some things are just what he believes and accepts without doubting any of it. I mean, the guy believes in fairy tales, and really weard one too. So all of his material becomes junk as it's really hard to disect the good journalism from the bad yourself, without doing all the research yourself completely. He's a selective journalist, not an investigative one. But it took a while to spot the twisted info he produces. I followed him for a while and though he delivered proper investigations until he made videos on something I specialized in and he made critical errors while stating it as fact. This is, in my opinion, one of the most dangerous fake news forms out there. It even fooled me, while I'm not easily fooled.
I stopped following him when he made a propaganda sponsored video without saying who paid for it. that's not a 'being wrong in some thing and right in others' that's more like the guys can't be trusted.
In 2009, Carrey wrote an article questioning the merits of vaccination for The Huffington Post.[149] With former partner Jenny McCarthy, Carrey led a "Green Our Vaccines" march in Washington, D.C., to advocate for the removal of "toxic substances" from children's vaccines, out of a belief that children had received "too many vaccines, too soon, many of which are toxic".[150] The rally was criticized by David Gorski, an American surgical oncologist on Science-Based Medicine blog, for being anti-vaccine and not "pro-safe vaccine",[151] and by Steven Parker on the WebMD website for being "irresponsible".[152]
On July 1, 2015, after the signing of a new vaccination law, Carrey called California Governor Jerry Brown a "corporate fascist" who was "poisoning" children by enacting the vaccination requirements.[153] The law disallowed religious and philosophical reasons for exemption from vaccination. Carrey was criticized for being "ignorant when it comes to vaccines" by Arthur Caplan, head of the Division of Medical Ethics at New York University,[154] and by Jeffrey Kluger, senior writer at Time, who described his anti-vaccination statements as "angry, dense and immune to reason".[155]
I like him enough as an actor to forgive the indiscretion if he had a change of heart. It seems there's nothing past 2015, and I feel like he must have changed his opinion if he was silent about it during COVID.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking, I haven't looked past the wiki.
Its an Adam Sandler song reference..."At a medium pace".
Imo peak Sandler music. Everyone remembers Lunch Lady Land and Thanksgiving and Chanukah Song because they are (mostly) family friendly and get played on the radio sometimes.
At A Medium Pace will not get played on legit terrestrial radio. It is probably not family appropriate, unless your family has a traveling act called "The Aristocrats". That's that raunchy, cringey Sandler we all know and love and sorta miss but we know he's too old to really do it anymore and it wouldn't be genuine but he's still pretty good in romcom settings.
not funny; ok that’s subjective but I really don’t think Adam Sandler is funny independently of his political views
reducing crimes against humanity such as genocide, colonialism and apartheid to "people just need to get along“ which is a common liberal Zionist narrative to whitewash said crimes
Have you seen the Kaufman documentary? IMO Carey is certifiably insane, he spat on someone and refused to apologize because it wasn't him, it was Andy. He literally thought he was possessed, or at least acted like that's what he thought
To be fair I think that method acting requires you to let go of your conceptual self, so I can see why Carey wouldn't necessarily think it was him, if he was in character.
To clarify: I don't think there's necessarily anything happening which is particularly interesting neurologically, but it is to say that I don't think the act of spitting on someone is necessarily the asshole move. I think the asshole move is to commit yourself to staying in character. There's something to be said for whether the commitment itself is worth it as an actor, and whether actions could be excused or forgiven, but I'm not here to make those points.
Where I am here to say is that Carey's choice to commit to staying in character makes him responsible for the impact and outcomes on other people.
It makes me think of Jared Leto, who was probably just trying a bit too hard, and sent dead rats to his co-stars or something?
I think that's a case of trying to bootstrap method acting but was certainly not very convincing. I think there's a case to be made that 'Leto' was responsible for that one. I'd call it "cosplaying at being obnoxious". In this case, I'd say Leto is responsible for those actions.
I think you may be reading him wrong. He keeps saying he isn't him or anyone else. I think he thinks that he is just a guy, and Jim Carrey is his Batman. I kinda feel bad for the guy, as it seems that he has to keep feeding the machine so he can pay for whatever debts he's trying to take care of.
The guy doesn't want to take responsibility for the terrible things he's done like driving Cathriona White to suicide or him being a massive hypocrite when he took action movie money then claimed that anyone who sees the movie is endorsing irl violence.
He's just another washed comedian from the 90's who thinks his immense privilege is somehow profound.
Yeah, rewatching the documentary that Patrick CC made on him does highlight that a bit more than I remembered.
Though it does go on to say that none of that evidence held up in court upon examination. I'm not going to say that totally clears Carrey, it doesn't. It does seem he crashed hard, possibly intentionally on others parts, and has willingly stepped out of the spotlight since. He seems to have learned something.
As someone who was an adult when it came out but didn't see it until years later.
It's an adequate live-action adaptation of a classic piece of animation. With Christmas coming up you should probably go ahead and give it a watch, if for no other reason than to say you did.
Edit: for the downvotes, there's a line in The Grinch about how Cindy Lou is so young she hasn't even grown into her nose yet. I'm not commenting on the actor's looks.
I saw one of her shows and she was all tits out in booty shorts, with the goth look that’s my type. I felt weird until I remember I was also a kid when grinch came out so it’s ok
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daggermoon@lemmy.world · 95 pts · 292d
I'm so conflicted about Jim Carey. On one hand, he's a based socialist, on the other, he's an anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist idiot.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 292d
people are complex and can be right about some things and wrong in others, nuance exists.
Newsteinleo@midwest.social · 11 pts · 292d
This is pretty much everyone.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 291d
yeah, it's obvious, yet somehow people are always surprised
breadleyloafsyou@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 280d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 287d
I wish way too many people are absolutely wrong about everything.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 291d
I had this with the youtuber and investigative journalist Johnny Harris. He has some good videos where he does deep dive investigative journalism but then in other videos he hears something and just accepts it as fact. For instance, in his video on who is Elon Musk he accepts what Musk said about his history as fact and didn't check any of it. Or he uses multiple sources all leading to the same source: Musk. So the entire video is a big Musk circlejerk promo video. But with other videos he doesn't accept something that easily and goes really deep to find the truth. So I googled the guy, apparently he's a devout Mormon. How can I take this guy seriously with anything if I can't trust him to check his sources properly every time, when some things are just what he believes and accepts without doubting any of it. I mean, the guy believes in fairy tales, and really weard one too. So all of his material becomes junk as it's really hard to disect the good journalism from the bad yourself, without doing all the research yourself completely. He's a selective journalist, not an investigative one. But it took a while to spot the twisted info he produces. I followed him for a while and though he delivered proper investigations until he made videos on something I specialized in and he made critical errors while stating it as fact. This is, in my opinion, one of the most dangerous fake news forms out there. It even fooled me, while I'm not easily fooled.
barlescharkley@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 291d
He's definitely not a devout Mormon. He previously was, but then left the church.
He actually has a good series of videos on that. Recommend a watch.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 291d
I don't trust anything he says.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 291d
[from memory]
I stopped following him when he made a propaganda sponsored video without saying who paid for it. that's not a 'being wrong in some thing and right in others' that's more like the guys can't be trusted.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 291d
Yeah exactly.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 2 pts · 291d
Back in the day, people relied on main stream media that fact checked everything.
Then Ronald Reagan, Roger Ailes, and Rupert Murdoch came along.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
Back in the day, people relied on main stream media that "fact checked" everything.
there was likely less fake news, but still not perfect?
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 4 pts · 291d
Let me put it this way. The movie 'Network' went from being a cutting edge satire to a quaint docudrama in real time.
bodaciousFern@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 291d
I'm Dan Rather and I approve this message
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 291d
But as an internet commentator I am morally obligated to either stan them or hate them!
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 291d
As a data scientist, I recommend not to run dimensionality reduction analysis on people.
Furier transforms are OK though
Etterra@discuss.online · 19 pts · 291d
He's also monumentally depressed.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 292d
Jim Carrey is antivaxx?
Hylactor@sopuli.xyz · 29 pts · 292d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Carrey
Grimy@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 292d
I like him enough as an actor to forgive the indiscretion if he had a change of heart. It seems there's nothing past 2015, and I feel like he must have changed his opinion if he was silent about it during COVID.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking, I haven't looked past the wiki.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 291d
https://youtu.be/8r3RQD8rE9E
He's openly said that he isn't Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey is his Batman to his Bruce Wayne.
"I'm not real." -Jim Carrey.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 291d
nothing on jenny past 2015, its like news about them disappeared after that, maybe they are keeping thier anti-vax more private.
MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website · 1 pts · 291d
Gah what a fucking tool.
Well at least he isn’t getting paid when I rewatch Ace Ventura 2 on plex 😎
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 292d
Unfortunately, yes. Check out the Wikipedia article. It's a roller coaster ride.
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 292d
Probably from his time being married to jenny McCarthy
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 292d
Rich people are only socialist until someone tries to redistribute their wealth. It's all an act.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 292d
Yeah, but if I had to choose between him and Adam Sandler I would go Jim any day of the week.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 292d
I wouldn't rush to Jim, though.
I'd go...at a medium pace...
nomy@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 291d
I prefer Jims acting and the roles he's chosen, but Adam seems like he's probably a nicer person.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 291d
Its an Adam Sandler song reference..."At a medium pace".
Imo peak Sandler music. Everyone remembers Lunch Lady Land and Thanksgiving and Chanukah Song because they are (mostly) family friendly and get played on the radio sometimes.
At A Medium Pace will not get played on legit terrestrial radio. It is probably not family appropriate, unless your family has a traveling act called "The Aristocrats". That's that raunchy, cringey Sandler we all know and love and sorta miss but we know he's too old to really do it anymore and it wouldn't be genuine but he's still pretty good in romcom settings.
pendel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 291d
Adam Sandler is a Zionist it hardly gets more nasty than that
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
On the other hand, if all zionists were like Zohan then the middle east would be a much more pleasant place.
pendel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 290d
It’s a horrible movie that is
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 290d
I certainly recognise the argument that the film was zionist propaganda. I'm just highlighting that Sandlers public zionism is quite liberal.
I'll take a 1947 border zionist over a 2025 settler zionist any day.
krashmo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
In what category?
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 291d
Movies.
But this is a very niche joke based Animals in HBO dedication an entire episode+ to litigating Sandler vs Carrey
Basically trying to start a war in the comments
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
Penis size?
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
Yeah, true
Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 291d
Have you seen the Kaufman documentary? IMO Carey is certifiably insane, he spat on someone and refused to apologize because it wasn't him, it was Andy. He literally thought he was possessed, or at least acted like that's what he thought
Zozano@aussie.zone · -2 pts · 291d
To be fair I think that method acting requires you to let go of your conceptual self, so I can see why Carey wouldn't necessarily think it was him, if he was in character.
To clarify: I don't think there's necessarily anything happening which is particularly interesting neurologically, but it is to say that I don't think the act of spitting on someone is necessarily the asshole move. I think the asshole move is to commit yourself to staying in character. There's something to be said for whether the commitment itself is worth it as an actor, and whether actions could be excused or forgiven, but I'm not here to make those points.
Where I am here to say is that Carey's choice to commit to staying in character makes him responsible for the impact and outcomes on other people.
It makes me think of Jared Leto, who was probably just trying a bit too hard, and sent dead rats to his co-stars or something?
I think that's a case of trying to bootstrap method acting but was certainly not very convincing. I think there's a case to be made that 'Leto' was responsible for that one. I'd call it "cosplaying at being obnoxious". In this case, I'd say Leto is responsible for those actions.
Professorozone@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 290d
I think method acting is fucking stupid, at least when it's taken too far.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
I don't like Jim at all, he's a brain damaged hypocrite who thinks he's the wisest motherfucker to ever live.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 291d
I think you may be reading him wrong. He keeps saying he isn't him or anyone else. I think he thinks that he is just a guy, and Jim Carrey is his Batman. I kinda feel bad for the guy, as it seems that he has to keep feeding the machine so he can pay for whatever debts he's trying to take care of.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 291d
"He keeps saying he isn't him or anyone else."
The guy doesn't want to take responsibility for the terrible things he's done like driving Cathriona White to suicide or him being a massive hypocrite when he took action movie money then claimed that anyone who sees the movie is endorsing irl violence.
He's just another washed comedian from the 90's who thinks his immense privilege is somehow profound.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 291d
A lot of people are upset that you're poo-pooing on their childhood celebrity nostalgia. We're gonna ask you to poo poo on somebody else's nostalgia.
Maybe something less charged like a celebrity from the Apprentice or Oprah?
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 291d
My toxic trait is hating on sanctimonious celebrities who got famous before the internet era
Really gets the gen x's stirred up
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
Yeah, rewatching the documentary that Patrick CC made on him does highlight that a bit more than I remembered.
Though it does go on to say that none of that evidence held up in court upon examination. I'm not going to say that totally clears Carrey, it doesn't. It does seem he crashed hard, possibly intentionally on others parts, and has willingly stepped out of the spotlight since. He seems to have learned something.
Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 291d
That sounds kinda brain damaged to me
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 292d
That's the girl who played Cindy Lou Who opposite Jim Carrey in The Grinch Stole Christmas.
His face, to me, says "I'm old".
Z3k3@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 292d
I saw this and thought that's the leased singer for the pretty reckless.
10 mins later I learn she's both
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 24 pts · 292d
I think you mean 'lead' singer.
But if you know more about her personal habits than I do...
Z3k3@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 292d
Lol stupid autocorrect
PopcornPrincess@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 292d
Glad you wrote who the lady is. I had no idea. This almost whooshed over my head.
CidVicious@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 292d
If it makes you feel better, I have no idea who that is because I was already an adult when it came out and had no desire to see it.
HeadyBroccoli@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 292d
You should watch it, it’s fantastic
nomy@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 291d
As someone who was an adult when it came out but didn't see it until years later.
It's an adequate live-action adaptation of a classic piece of animation. With Christmas coming up you should probably go ahead and give it a watch, if for no other reason than to say you did.
HeadyBroccoli@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 291d
I appreciate your point of view, as someone who saw it at a younger age, I’m sure I have some nostalgic bias’s
TommyJohnsFishSpot@lemy.lol · 11 pts · 292d
It'll happen to you too, young pup
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
I'm only saying it cuz I feel it too. Will be 50 in Dec.
Sonor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
we can still get nuked into oblivion before that. don't give up hope
starman2112@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 291d
Taylor Momsen, for anyone who wants to, uh, research her
ch00f@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 292d
She finally grew into her nose.
Edit: for the downvotes, there's a line in The Grinch about how Cindy Lou is so young she hasn't even grown into her nose yet. I'm not commenting on the actor's looks.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 291d
jenny was also in RA3 as tanya.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 292d
I saw one of her shows and she was all tits out in booty shorts, with the goth look that’s my type. I felt weird until I remember I was also a kid when grinch came out so it’s ok
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 292d
I didn't even know she was an actor.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 292d
She has a rock band, I don’t know if she has acted recently
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
Yeah, I know. I saw her band in concert. I was saying that's where I know her from.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
Dating show from MTV, don't remember the name
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 292d
I thought she looked familiar. I've seen the pretty reckless.
Wren@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 292d
Jesus Christ I thought that was Bruce Campbell.
Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 291d
I thought it was Mickey Rourke with a drug problem.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 7 pts · 292d
I first read the backdrop as FALL [OF] ROME [2]025
db2@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 292d
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 291d
FUCK YOU OP I'M NOT OLD YOU ARE
ItsMeForRealNow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 291d
This is some bojack horseman stuff right here.