Palantir CEO Alex Karp is sick and tired of his critics. That much is clear. But during the Yahoo Finance Invest Conference Thursday, he escalated his counteroffensive, aimed squarely at analysts, journalists, and political commentators who have long attacked the company as a symbol of an encroaching surveillance state, or as overvalued.
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spits@lemmy.world · 140 pts · 275d
Billionaire says this. Billionaire says that. I don't give a fuck what this parasite says. Him and others like him will face their reckoning day.
ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works · 113 pts · 275d
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 274d
Hmmm yes, the OLIGARKHALSHUGGARE
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 79 pts · 275d
Palantir is a multinational data capture and analytics company.
What exactly is he/it being patriotic to? The US? If so, the company should be banned everywhere else in the world.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 274d
Murdering Palestinians with Palantir enabled kill-chains in military networking solutions.
That kind of Patriotism.
Welcome to Year Zero.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 274d
To himself obviously. You can even feel the narcissism coming from his fucking face.
yeather@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 274d
Israel
KonalaKoala@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
Palantir sounds like it could a russian multinational data capture and analytics company.
Manjushri@piefed.social · 57 pts · 275d
Does this make any sense at all? Even if they were able to make it the U.S. never needs to "project force", how does that have any bearing on preventing abuse or the U.S. becoming a surveillance state.
borth@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 275d
Preventing abuse by giving them everything they want, so they don't get mad and start abusing all of the stuff that was just given to them.
mhague@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 275d
Exactly. It's a power move to change the subject. Imagine addressing people's issues... you're just sitting in their domain. You have to change what people are talking about too. He doesn't need to keep defending against X, Y, and Z if we start attacking his idea of "the greater good" and "agentic force projection."
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 54 pts · 275d
Leeching off a dying empire with miltech... Now who's the real parasite Alex?
rayyy@piefed.social · 42 pts · 275d
Ah yes, the old slap some, "patriotic" shit on it.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 275d
A word I've been tired of for about 20 years now. I remember once all the bush s*** happened after 9:11 in the invasion of Iraq, Patriot became the new badge of honor of morons.
I remember actually having a few conversations or even debates with people over politics and then suddenly they would shout "what, you don't think I'm a fucking patriot?"
What boring dystopia we've been in for the past couple of decades.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 274d
These people remind me of the men who love their family enough to kill or die for them, but not enough to carry their weight in chores, to show vulnerability, to sincerely listen when needs are expressed…
To these patriots the nation is something to kill and die for. It's about big displays of badassery. They aren't willing to volunteer for their country, to give up a portion of their money to ensure everyone eats and gets medicine, to live with uncertainty so that all accused people have their rights respected or so that convicted people have the chance to demonstrate rehabilitation. Their love is tied to machismo, and just as they are bad parents, they too are bad citizens.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 273d
Let's be honest. These knobs aren't typically fighting or dying for anything.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 273d
Oh absolutely not, they're all talk. But, I do think it's worth speaking as if they were honest here because so fucking what. You'll die for your kid but you won't volunteer at their school or be a scoutmaster or anything like that? A dad isn't a soldier, a dad is a parent, and parents are supposed to be involved in their kids' lives and actively teaching them how to become well adjusted adults
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 273d
Yup. Being a dad is 100% the most important and involved thing I've ever done.
etherphon@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 275d
There is nothing patriotic about spying on your neighbors, I thought we learned that several times already.
yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 274d
Violating everyone's 4th amendment rights is unpatriotic
Zron@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 274d
But is it very fascist, and that’s so hot right now.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 274d
But didn't you hear, he is making money from it so he should be entitled to continue
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 36 pts · 275d
"Stop calling it surveillance" These people would be so funny if they didn't have such a negative impact on millions of people
nulluser@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 275d
Fortune gives Karp soapbox from which to say whatever he wants, unchallenged. Eventually, though, they get to..
Then, at last, they finally demonstrate some journalistic Integrity and rebut his statement with why those groups make those accusations.... Oh, wait, no they don't. They just end the article with one final quote from him that could just as easily have been from Hitler.
MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 275d
Disgusting scumbag. Fuck off and die.
d00phy@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 275d
I’m getting so sick and fucking tired of people tying earnings potential to whether something is good or bad. Same thing with tying wealth to intelligence. It is so monumentally stupid and shortsighted.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 275d
What? Criminal scum complains about being called criminal scum?
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 274d
This company should be dismantled and Thiel and Karp should be arrested for violations of our fourth amendment rights. Treason. Prosecute to fullest extent of the law
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 274d
We'll need to ask them if they'd like to waive any other rights along with their fourth. Like maybe their eighth
dorumon@lemmy.cafe · 20 pts · 275d
Remind me to never let the people I live with buy a ring camera.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 274d
I moved out of my parent’s house a couple years ago because of their cameras everywhere. I had zero privacy.
markz@suppo.fi · 18 pts · 275d
I'm pretty sure that goes both ways.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 275d
I used to think I couldn't hate anyone more than Peter Thiel, but I fucking hate this guy so much.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 274d
He reports to Theil. He's just his mouthpiece.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 274d
“Patriotism will make you rich.”
If you can’t smell the grift and propaganda coming off of this pile of shit then you’re a dangerously stupid human being.
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 274d
Patriotic nationalism is a religion that worships dirt.
Surveillance can only ever be used for oppression.
Financial obesity is neurotoxic.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 275d
What an asshole. If the same thing that makes your government powerful also makes your government evil, than supporting that thing does not make you a patriot, it makes you a fascist.
TheMinister@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 275d
Yeah that fucking logic was so goddamn backwards and moronic I couldn’t even stomach it
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 275d
Why do those billionaires keep bothering us workers?
adj@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 275d
So they can extract more money from us. In this case in the form of taxes we'll pay so that we can be constantly monitored.
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 275d
More like no morals makes you rich. Evil and money are on the same side of the coin in this presidency.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 274d
Punchable face.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 12 pts · 274d
I am completely ok with putting multiple cameras in your (Alex's) home, work place and also making all your emails and messages public. All for the sake of patriotism ofcourse nothing else. Afterall if you have nothing to hide why wouldn't you be ok with people reading your emails.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
The glorious nation demands to watch you shit. Glory to Amerikkka home of the patriotic camera.
Or you know if you love America you could remember that those who trade freedom for security deserve neither and that one of our fundamental rights is to privacy from the government.
the_q@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 275d
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 275d
If we assess the amount of damage they are doing to society against the amount of benefit they bring .... I think you're in the clear.
BakerBagel@midwest.social · 8 pts · 275d
It's aelf defense since they continue to make decisions that they know will kill people.
some_designer_dude@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 275d
I’d argue it’s morally reprehensible NOT to exterminate these parasites.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 2 pts · 274d
It's morally wrong for Alex Karp to exist.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 11 pts · 275d
Patriotism would be auto finding violations of the constitution and bringing up legal action for every one.
falseWhite@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 275d
OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 275d
COVID missed a few assholes.
ohlaph@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 274d
It's literally a tool specifically designed to accelerate and maintain fascism.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 8 pts · 274d
This dude looks like the villain of the last gen v season
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 274d
Fascism and prosperity gospel, both are a circle on the Venn diagram.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 275d
Let's leverage the full capabilities of these "tools" to stalk, analyze, and publish whatever it finds on this little CEO, and see how "patriotic" he's feeling after like a week.
It's all "smart investing" and "patriotism" as long as it's used on somebody else.
Real patriotism would be mercilessly stamping out threats to The People's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Threats that these asshats and their toys embody without question.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 275d
FLAG!!!!
fartographer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 275d
Why do they keep reporting what mirror dimension Taika Waititi said?
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 274d
I have a colleague who invested in Palantir. I mentioned to him of the controversy with the company but he just shrugged it since he made some money before selling the shares. I don't really pass judgement on many those who invest in unethical companies simply because the old fashioned way of working and saving simply doesn't cut it anymore. The older generations could party and travel in their twenty's, and buy a house and have family in their thirty's. The younger generation can't really do that anymore.
I also do investing and I realised that it's hard to be ethical under a capitalist system. There are index funds I want to invest in because of lower initial investment requirement, but I don't like the companies listed in those funds. And thus I have to individually invest in companies I like, but I have little gains because my capital is spread out across various equities.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 273d
It's honestly kept me from investing at all. I know index funds are the way to go, but I can't in good conscience invest in these evil companies. I'd rather end up living in the street than sell my soul.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 273d
There is a workaround to the moral problem like hedging with CFD, because you don't technically own shares and thus not funding companies you dislike, you are simply betting on whether the company's share price will either go up or down. But as mentioned, it is leveraged and therefore betting and gambling. There is also holding fees which eats away at the profits in CFD.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 273d
Yeah the more complicated and "gamble-y" it gets the less interested I am.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 273d
Depending how one looks at it, even normal investing can be considered gambling. But at the very least, investing is not leveraged, and it is surer and more calculated risk than sports or race gambling. The latter is fixed because of behind the scenes corruption; but with investing, it's more regulated and so long as you invest in trustworthy companies, it'll be fine.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 273d
Sure, but for people like me who don't have the time/desire to research individual companies, index funds are the common suggestion. Which brings me to my original comment.
Phegan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 275d
HurlingDurling@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 274d
Hey Plantir, you keep saying fascism wrong
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 275d
By patriotic, I guess he means taking money from Eppstein and Thiel and obtaining further funding from Israel to develop an application that is as unethical as possible? Unfortunately, this bastard is successful because there are influential people all over the world who think this is great - or they get payed to think so.
In Germany, for example, one federal state has just amended its police law to enforce the use of Palantir products against applicable law and, of course, against the will of the population – with the support even of (allegedly) leftwing parties whose voters strongly reject this. Well, you don't need to buy the voters, just a few politicians.
It is truly a shame what representative democracies have degenerated into due to the power of a few very influential and utterly unscrupulous billionaires.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 275d
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 275d
No CEO is needed. He should become a better person and quit.
JiveTurkey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 275d
This dumb curly headed fuck can suck a bag of dicks.
redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 275d
PUTS!
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 274d
Can he be a victim to a hate crime please?
kandoh@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 275d
Coked up like a child dizzy on lemonade