Crazy this is a thing actually being rolled out and it hasn't hit world headlines.
Europe, USA and other countries are not far behind this initiative once they (governments) see how even more successful it is for collecting and sorting data to control citizens.
If you have a smartphone, you get to use UPI (United Payments Interface).
If you don't, you are basically limited to a certain amount of free withdrawal per month, which is set to prevent getting an outcry from BPL (below poverty line) people, which would otherwise be bad for elections.
I was considering pushing for open source UPI apps for Linux devices (and providing my services for development), to reduce India's reliance on Google and Android but considering recent events, I believe that is not really going to align with the Government's plans.
Nah, they're mostly just going to endlessly harass you for it and wait for you to bribe them.
They will randomly send dacoits in uniform to beat you up and jail you and make it harder for you to earn a living until they get their birthright bribes.
Can't speak for Europe but the USA already has this, only instead of a playstore app it's a collection of backdoors and hacking tools, and they're installed without our knowledge or consent by military intelligence institutions.
Yes I watched a few videos about the NSA’s hacker group, TAO, and how they exploited backdoors and zero day exploits like crazy but without our knowledge. Went unknown for some 15 years til Snowden blew the whistle.
It absolutely hit world headlines way before you commented... I had seen it multiple times from several sources before this thread was made. From local (I'm Swedish) news, global news (grounded and kagi news), youtube and mastodon (links to MSM articles about it).
I lowkey expect every modern device to be compromised (unless you're running custom roms). Whether it's Pegasus or something else. Only permanent solution is to stop using smartphones altogether.
This doesn't make sense to me.
Why do they even need it to be that way?
Compartmentalisations was one of the basic points in system design methodology that I thought (because I read it somewhere) smartphones would also be built upon. So why compromise the whole thing to a supply chain attack?
In 2015, my Indian coworker in the US sat on a different table with another team on a company lunch, because my Indian boss wouldn't talk to him because he comes from a lower caste.
You can get a Nokia flip phone on Amazon for under $100. Before all the tariff BS it was more like $60. My daughter has been using one exclusively for about six months.
They too should suffer my endless search history for obscurities.
I want them to download all of my USB storage of virus infected malware. I will sit idly and tap my fingertips against each other while my SMS messages corrupt their society from within.
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jof@lemmy.world · 248 pts · 254d
Crazy this is a thing actually being rolled out and it hasn't hit world headlines.
Europe, USA and other countries are not far behind this initiative once they (governments) see how even more successful it is for collecting and sorting data to control citizens.
Time to go to GrapheneOS folks.
witty_username@feddit.nl · 84 pts · 254d
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 77 pts · 254d
No phone it is then...
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 25 pts · 254d
This was my exact thought. I remember the 90s.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 253d
We had 10¢ pay phones back then though.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 253d
Everyone had landlines too. Ya, very different times.
ulterno@programming.dev · 14 pts · 253d
They seem to have plans for those types too.
Withdrawing cash is going to be taxed.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 253d
What does withdrawing cash have to do with owning a phone?
ulterno@programming.dev · 16 pts · 253d
If you have a smartphone, you get to use UPI (United Payments Interface).
If you don't, you are basically limited to a certain amount of free withdrawal per month, which is set to prevent getting an outcry from BPL (below poverty line) people, which would otherwise be bad for elections.
I was considering pushing for open source UPI apps for Linux devices (and providing my services for development), to reduce India's reliance on Google and Android but considering recent events, I believe that is not really going to align with the Government's plans.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 253d
Aah you talking India specific, I was talking from a European perspective given the context of the posts I replied to originally.
ulterno@programming.dev · 0 pts · 253d
Don't they also have some NFC payment stuff there too?
Though that's probably connected to the debit/credit card and not really a separate interface.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 11 pts · 253d
no phones = you cannot create a bank account
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 253d
Monero it is then
helix@feddit.org · 3 pts · 253d
They'll make you pay taxes.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 253d
That's fine.
jof@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 254d
Basically :/
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 253d
In the dwindling amount of phones that will allow you to install GOS on them?
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 253d
GOS has partnered with an OEM so we may end up with GOS on more phone models.
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 253d
Which one?
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 252d
They aren't saying atm.
ulterno@programming.dev · 6 pts · 253d
Nah, they're mostly just going to endlessly harass you for it and wait for you to bribe them.
They will randomly send dacoits in uniform to beat you up and jail you and make it harder for you to earn a living until they get their
birthrightbribes.eleitl@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 254d
Use a tablet with a MiFi router. The hostile network starts there.
grue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
FTFY
artyom@piefed.social · 19 pts · 254d
I mean, it has been, for a long time, but this is not why. According to the article you can simply uninstall the app.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 4 pts · 253d
Bet you are going to have the app installed and scanned for every government service you want to use (including leaving the country).
artyom@piefed.social · 3 pts · 253d
Maybe but that is yet another problem that GOS won't solve.
Chulk@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 253d
Could I not just set up another profile in GOS with this app installed and switch to that profile when it's needed?
artyom@piefed.social · 3 pts · 253d
User profiles is an AOSP feature. It's not exclusive to GOS.
Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 253d
I've read about it in three different places this morning, I don't live in India. I thi I it's hit "world headlines"
jimbroof@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 253d
Can't speak for Europe but the USA already has this, only instead of a playstore app it's a collection of backdoors and hacking tools, and they're installed without our knowledge or consent by military intelligence institutions.
jof@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 253d
Yes I watched a few videos about the NSA’s hacker group, TAO, and how they exploited backdoors and zero day exploits like crazy but without our knowledge. Went unknown for some 15 years til Snowden blew the whistle.
Scary stuff man.
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 253d
BBC had an article this morning. I follow them for a different perspective on North American news.
M137@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 253d
It absolutely hit world headlines way before you commented... I had seen it multiple times from several sources before this thread was made. From local (I'm Swedish) news, global news (grounded and kagi news), youtube and mastodon (links to MSM articles about it).
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 114 pts · 254d
Lol when this inevitably get backdoored/exploited, it's gonna be glorious
laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 253d
Oh it probably already is just look up the test run they did with their covid app
spez@sh.itjust.works · 105 pts · 254d
Just saw and ranted about this. I HATE THIS FUCKING FASCIST GOVERNMENT WITH EVERY FIBER OF BY BEING!!!!!!!!!!!!
richardisaguy@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 254d
at this pace you are going to be sent to a concentration camp soon
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 254d
I lowkey expect every modern device to be compromised (unless you're running custom roms). Whether it's Pegasus or something else. Only permanent solution is to stop using smartphones altogether.
nimpnin@sopuli.xyz · 29 pts · 254d
Even if you can't, minimizing smartphone use, uptime and carrying mitigates some of the risk
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 22 pts · 253d
Just make sure your pagers are not backdoored with Semtex either.
ConstantPain@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 254d
If you think every phone has some sort of IME, installing a custom ROM means nothing.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 254d
A phone's baseband (modem) runs its own proprietary firmware with full RAM access.
ulterno@programming.dev · 5 pts · 253d
This doesn't make sense to me.
Why do they even need it to be that way?
Compartmentalisations was one of the basic points in system design methodology that I thought (because I read it somewhere) smartphones would also be built upon. So why compromise the whole thing to a supply chain attack?
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 253d
so that they can surveil you
ulterno@programming.dev · 0 pts · 253d
That part, I already understand.
But you needed to have some sort of excuse for such things back when smartphones were new.
I think the compartmentalisation concepts were there from the feature-phone era.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 253d
In exchange for giant purchase orders from the government. Qualcomm etc are simply corrupt.
ConstantPain@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 253d
It's by design.
brachiosaurus@mander.xyz · 63 pts · 253d
They cannot get rid of the caste system but can successfully surveil 90% of the population
Balldowern@lemmy.zip · -9 pts · 253d
The caste system ended in 1947. We know the laws there.
The only thing holding their people back is the Reservation system.
shneancy@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 253d
the same way racism ended in 1964?
3abas@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 253d
In 2015, my Indian coworker in the US sat on a different table with another team on a company lunch, because my Indian boss wouldn't talk to him because he comes from a lower caste.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 52 pts · 253d
India saw Britain and said "I'm not going to let my former colonisers out do me."
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 253d
This is just another crowdstrike incident in the making: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_CrowdStrike-related_IT_outages
colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz · 34 pts · 254d
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 254d
How do the corporations feel about this when they have workers in India?
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 254d
Bring back dumb phones!
zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 253d
You can get a Nokia flip phone on Amazon for under $100. Before all the tariff BS it was more like $60. My daughter has been using one exclusively for about six months.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 253d
The modified (Modi-fied?) offer of it now being optional is ridiculous. Keep protesting the policy my brothers and sisters.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 13 pts · 254d
Does the iOS one get this sweeping access to everything as well (which would require Apple to specifically give it entitlements)?
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 22 pts · 254d
bstix@feddit.dk · 12 pts · 254d
Cool..how can I get it?
They too should suffer my endless search history for obscurities. I want them to download all of my USB storage of virus infected malware. I will sit idly and tap my fingertips against each other while my SMS messages corrupt their society from within.
saibhargav@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 254d
I use Custom Rom(LineageOS)
JustJack23@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 254d
https://www.amazon.com/Nokia-3310-3G-Unlocked-T-Mobile/dp/B075FL4H89
Sorry how to install it exactly?
ptu@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 253d
kn0wmad1c@programming.dev · 2 pts · 254d
Could they install it in a sandbox quarantined away from the rest of the stuff on their phones?
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 253d
Probably, but until they see at least 20 pictures of your 5 year old in a bikini, they'll just beat you.
FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 253d