Jolla Trying Again To Develop A New Sailfish OS Linux Smartphone

I hope they succeed, it's a very tough market.

They probably need a lot of ducks to line up in a row. But the current privacy wave and the push for digital sovereignty in Europe might help.

I hope they succeed. Given Alphabet/Google's recent moves to try and lock Android's app ecosystem down and them just generally becoming more Evil every day, GrapheneOS and LineageOS etc. may be living on borrowed time.

I watched a video reviewing some phones smuggled out of North Korea a few days ago and it's truly scary what the endgame of locked mobile phones looks like and given the trends worldwide towards authoritarianism, we're frogs being boiled slowly toward the same situation.

Get me a linux smart phone with a headphone jack and I will buy it in a heartbeat, but I don't think very many other people will.

I was at a bar in Tampere (a city here in Finland) last week and met a guy with a phone running Sailfish OS. I've been interested in them for quite a few years so I asked him to let me see it and he did. Even though it was a 6+ year old phone it was running smooth as butter, the initial UX was awesome.

I really hope this becomes a reality and that the phone isn't just another cheap chinese touchscreen device. I am making the switch when the time comes.

That design looks AMAZING.

Is there anything I need to know about the political affiliations of Jolla / past products / sailfish os before I pre-order this thing?

Edit: nvm, no global shipping

Yikes, the AI computer thing gives me the ick; however, it seems that they are being a bit less nonsense with a smartphone. Though, given the market trends, it will be a tough space to break into because there are so many established brands. However, if Jolla can put their whole ass into this and make it privacy focused and consumer friendly Linux smartphone...They might stand a chance. Also, I hope they also make a larger screened device, I am tired of the smaller 6.3 inch screens. I'd love for them to make a 6.7 inch screen phone (also make it international version with a lot of carrier compatibility for maximum adoption potential).

I've looked at their Sailfish OS and honestly wished it were chosen by corporations more often...As the overall design seems quite nice, while being approachable. You are allowed to be as hands off or as hands on as you'd like to be with getting into the guts of this OS.

Hmm... Gimme a headphone jack option and I'll try getting in on that crowdfunding, if they let me do it from the US.

I am really excited. I don't think it will really have much of a market in the US but I think it could have a chance in Europe.

I want this. I don't think its available in The US though. Someone please make a good linux phone! I like grapheneOS but its still based on android, which hasn't had a great track record of late.

So does this mean that a 5" is possible, or that they are going to make it? The 6" model is way too big for me.

Is the 99 € refundable? Yes. Fully.

Well ok, I think I'll put my money in and we'll see if they manage to make that reasonably sized model.

I really want one. But I'm not buying any tech product until my existing one turns to dust and no amount of solder can put it back together. So maybe in five or six years?

Why make your own phone? Why not partner with Fairphone? Fairphone seems to be the only vendor out there that sells phones with an alternative ROM (/e/ OS), they might very well be open to an alternative OS like Sailfish.

Is buying a smartphone with a properietary OS from an EU company really a smart decision after chat control?

I think I'm going to be sticking with Graphene

I learned C++ just to write apps for my N95, haven't used it since it broke.

I would pick it up again in a heartbeat if I had a new Jolla phone in my hands.

I feel like things in the consumer software space for Linux is getting there like desktop Linux ~10 years ago. Waydroid is solid. Android translation layer is in development. Valve with Steam machines.

Krita and GIMP look to be in good positions. Kdenlive doesn't crash all the time anymore. Can have good consumer interest synergy between regular Linux/SteamOS/Pop_OS if they ever get big selling hardware and Linux phones

Android apps needed as part of the proposition now. But eventually over many many years there should eventually be a good ecosystem of Linux native phone apps

Nice. I put in the down payment of 99 €, let's see what happens.

i wish i hadn't just replaced my Note 20 Ultra now

I would love this. Trying to move to Europe and it would be perfect to get away from Google and Apple

Jolla released their first smartphone in 2013 after crowdfunding but ultimately the Sailfish OS focus the past number of years now has been offering their software stack for use on other smartphone devices.

This sentence took me so long to decipher. For others struggling, read "has been offering" as "has been to offer". It's saying they tried hardware, but ultimately they've been offering their software stack to other hardware instead of making their own.

This is awesome, pre ordered! UK friends, do you thing! It's not like we get to be part of cool stuff happening in Europe very often these days

Too little too late. All they had to do at this point was partner with Pine64, Purism, or hell even the FSF. They need to work our their whole UI being closed-source situation and just open up everything.

if you arent trying to develope for existing phones, you are part of the problem