some epstein files can be unredacted...The Trump administration is so bloody stupid they just highlighted the text in black in the pdfs, leaving all the text available underneath.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1ptlms6/some_epstein_files_can_be_unredacted/?share_id=Lelh_AmZLS4d1XKzZrtF9

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/57349211

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e2piiminusone@lemmynsfw.com · 79 pts · 260d (3 replies)

Incompetence or malicious compliance from some FBI officers?

IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 52 pts · 260d (1 reply)

This screams malicious compliance to me. A lot of the staffers who would actually be doing this work are not elected officials doing this kind of work for the first time, and there would absolutely be strong guidelines on how to properly redact something.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 260d

There's also the possibility of the bosses asking why they're taking so long when they can just highlight it in black. A sufficiently rude boss rarely is spared from their own foolishness

shalafi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 260d

I'm opting for malice. Lemmy acting like they're smarter, yet not realizing this isn't Trumps cabinet members personally editing this shit.

4am@lemmy.zip · 57 pts · 260d (2 replies)

Even with everyone on the internet wondering out loud if they’d be stupid enough to do this again, the mad lads did it

DrunkenPirate@feddit.org · 59 pts · 260d

For me, it looks like a fake-it-for-the-boss obfuscation. It looks black but is technically readable. Is your boss tech-savvy?

Seems that not everyone in the administration is fine with hiding the details to the public. Thanks guys.

shalafi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 260d

Are you under the impression that Trump's idiot cabinet members personally edited these docs?

dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works · 49 pts · 260d (3 replies)

How about shutting the fuck up about this until everything is released?

Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 260d (1 reply)

Fr. Can't wait for nothing to finally happen.

TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 260d

I'm sure that some journalists will be assassinated/suicided.

InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 260d

Doesn't matter - there will still be black highlighted portions in the latter releases; yes, this timeline is THAT stupid.

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 260d (5 replies)

I'm shocked this still happens. I read about this sort of mistake many years ago with PDF files, and I assumed it had been fixed by now. My first thought whenever I see redacted electronic documents is this--that I'd read about it years ago, and I wondered the same thing this time. 'Shirley', I thought, 'they've figured this out by now, right?'

qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website · 36 pts · 260d

As another person commented, we can hope it's intentional defiance.

LordMayor@piefed.social · 8 pts · 260d

Nice to meet you, Shirley.

Bristlecone@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 260d

They haven't figured it out, and don't call me Shirley ;)

shalafi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 260d

You think this was a mistake? LOL. No.

lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 260d

I assumed it had been fixed by now

Can't fix stupid.

DandomRude@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 260d (7 replies)

Are the MAGA supporters in the US actually aware of all this? Or does this news not even reach them?

I mean, it seems impossible to spin this obvious cover-up in a way that leaves the regime with any credibility whatsoever. I can't imagine how that could be done.

keyez@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 260d (4 replies)

They will take anything they can to convince themselves it's not real. A podcast I listen to with MAGA parents are now saying Trump is only in them because he was an informant and caught Epstein despite about 1000 cases to the contrary.

DandomRude@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 260d

It's a cult

cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 260d (2 replies)

what podcast?

keyez@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 260d (1 reply)

The necessary conversation. they also upload to YouTube.

cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 260d

oh my god, he hosts my favorite bachelorette recap "game of roses". i have subbed, thank you! small world lol

adhd_traco@piefed.social · 14 pts · 260d (1 reply)

Well, their propaganda machines certainly won't stop trying with every trick in the book.

Fox news reporting (if it can even be called that) on the Epstein files is that the DOJ released new documents, with a disclaimer about trump being mentioned. That what the documents suggest about him is false, and if it were true it would've been weaponized already.

DandomRude@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 260d

Hmm, seems like one can only conclude that they don't want to know. Today, I watched a House hearing from September in which Kash Patel was questioned. Even then, it was so obvious that it was a cover-up: he awkwardly dodged the most basic questions, couldn't explain why victims were never interviewed even though they had asked to be, and so on and so forth - a real clown show - and each of the conservative representatives first thanked Patel for his great work and then asked random questions about Antifa or some other nonsense. You would think that no one could accept this – especially not from a party that campaigned on this issue. So I think that either they don't care or they are ok with it.

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 260d (4 replies)

I can’t believe this administration is so inept. Wait…yes I can.

Best way to redact: black out text digitally on document. Print document. Verify correct text is blacked out. Scan papers into new document. All original metadata is gone, no “undo” available. Basic as F.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 260d

Shhhhh

shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 260d

Yes. Because that idiot Patel personally redacted these docs.

Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 260d (1 reply)

Don't give them any ideas...

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 260d

This is old AF. It used to be xeroxed, blacked out, and xeroxed again 1-2x more to ensure no forensic analysis could tease out text. It shouldn’t be an “idea”. These clowns are just idiots.

medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 260d (8 replies)

If anyone would like to post instructions for the pdf impaired...

pieland@piefed.social · 25 pts · 260d

I haven’t tried this, but this is what I’ve read:

You can highlight the redacted text, copy it, and paste the text into another document (like Word, WordPad, Notepad, etc.).

Another method I saw mentioned on Facebook:

“The backgrounds are transparent. Pull them into photoshop and throw a layer of white between the text and the black background and you have your text.”

If anything is unclear, please ask. Even if I can’t answer it, maybe someone else can.

adhd_traco@piefed.social · 13 pts · 260d (1 reply)

It looks like the maintainers of the project have updated their project and page. It's much simpler now.

Installation:

pip install pdfplumber pymupdf

Usage:

python redact_extract.py example.pdf

pieland@piefed.social · 7 pts · 260d

If anyone has any questions about this comment as well, please feel free to ask. I know what this comment means, but a few years ago I wouldn’t’ve had a clue.

thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 260d

You’re asking on Lemmy?

  1. Install gentoo
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 6 pts · 260d (2 replies)

Here's step-by-step instructions for the tool that the OP of the reddit thread open sourced. It creates a side-by-side pdf of the redacted and unredacted version at the end.

No root access is required at any point.

  1. Download and extract the files of https://github.com/leedrake5/unredact?tab=readme-ov-file

  2. Create a python virtual environment, but make sure the destination folder doesn't already exist (~/.env) here.

python3 -m venv ~/.env

  1. activate the environment

source ~/.env/bin/activate
You should now see (.env) before your prompt.

  1. Now install the python dependencies.

pip install pdfplumber pymupdf
You're all set up.

  1. While still having your virtual environment active, indicated by the (.env) before your pompt, navigate to the downloaded github project, where the 'redact_extract.py' file is located.

  2. Copy whatever pdf document you want to try to unredact to the same location.

  3. execute the script

python redact_extract.py taco_crimes.pdf

The script should now have created a file for you in the current location with the redacted and unredacted version side by side.

To leave the virtual environment:

deactivate

To enter it again:

source ~/.env/bin/activate

To delete everything cleanly, just delete the virtual environment (~/.env in this case)


The project linked in evacide's Mastodon toot is even simpler to install. Create and activate a virtual environment like before, but at a different location (.env1 instead of .env, for example).

Then install the tool from pip in the virtual environment:

pip install x-ray

The tool is now installed and can be executed with a pdf file like so:

xray /path/to/your/file.pdf

https://github.com/freelawproject/x-ray

(sorry for the bad formatting. after posting, I can't preview anymore to figure out how to fix it.)

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 260d (1 reply)

Could you show some of what it extracted then?

adhd_traco@piefed.social · 1 pts · 260d

I haven't tried any yet, except verify with sample from reddit's OP.

Here's a a google drive link from the reddit thread with three files. One original justice.gov pdf with bad redactions. The same file, unredacted. And a third single pdf side-by-side of the aforementioned two files. By default, OP's tool creates this side-by-side pdf.

lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 260d

You don't need the lame script. Just select the obscured text in a document like the one they linked to & copy & paste or have the voice reader read it back.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 260d

Gotta admit, I finally thought I had reached the state where I could not be surprised by how stupid current unfolding events would be in the Trump era.

Nope, I was wrong, I am again genuienly surprised by how stupid some particular element of latest episode of the Trump Expanded Universe of Reality Is Reality TV Show is.

MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 260d

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

Tower@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 260d

I knew this sounded familiar

Paul Manafort's lawyers did the same thing

fodor@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 259d

You think it's accidental. I think it's malicious compliance. Some people actually work for the feds and dislike pedo trafficking rings, right? A perfect chance to make life exciting.

JGrffn@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 260d

I literally thought about this and tried figuring out if I could check that myself, but I'm not versed enough with PDFs to be able to do this. Definitely tried, but got nowhere

ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 260d (1 reply)

Before the release this was an onion article

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 260d

The onion is just tomorrow's news at this point

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 260d

So, hey. Everyone here is laughing about how stupid this was. Cool cool cool. But, has anyone downloaded the pdf before they took it down? How can I get a copy of the readable original?

lorski@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 260d

Wow, love their idiocy!

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -19 pts · 260d (12 replies)

Sadly this is faked

mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 260d (1 reply)

I went to the link, highlighted the black highlighted part, and copied the text out of it. This confirms directly at the source material on the government website that it is true.

Go here: https://www.justice.gov/multimedia/Court%20Records/Matter%20of%20the%20Estate%20of%20Jeffrey%20E.%20Epstein,%20Deceased,%20No.%20ST-21-RV-00005%20(V.I.%20Super.%20Ct.%202021)/2022.03.17-1%20Exhibit%201.pdf

Scroll down to the redacted part and highlight it, there you go

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 260d

Finally some fucking evidence

slothrop@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 260d (7 replies)

Sauce?

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -13 pts · 260d (6 replies)

Notice how there's no actual content in it, just people all saying "yeah I did it too"

slothrop@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 260d (5 replies)

So, no source!

To answer your question, "No, I didn't notice!"

I have no issue if it's fake, but I'd like more than your answering a question with a question.

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -6 pts · 260d (1 reply)

I found this too, it's real cause it's from a random screenshot someone put on Reddit

slothrop@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 260d

Sorry for your loss.

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -15 pts · 260d (2 replies)

Screenshots do not evidence make.

I want him to get caught, but I also don't want misinformation, misinformation is his tool, and you cannot build a house with the masters' tools.

slothrop@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 260d (1 reply)

lol...goalposts

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -4 pts · 260d

See, the unredacted version I've seen only briefly mentions him, so which is the real one?

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf

And no. It's not moving goalposts to ask for evidence

lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 260d


You can literally see for yourself: open the document they linked to, select text, copy & paste or instruct the voice reader to read it to you.

three@lemmy.zip · -7 pts · 260d

It's true, I've looked at the evidence (nonexistent) and it backs this claim 100%