Trump admin reportedly considers paying each Greenland resident up to $100K amid US takeover talks
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-admin-reportedly-considers-paying-each-greenland-resident-100k-us-takeover-talks
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cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 213d
Denmark spends $661million a year on Greenland that includes healthcare, infrastructure, education etc.
That's almost $12000 a year per citizen a year.
Getting $100k for losing what Greenland gets for being part of Denmark sounds like a selloff and considering what life in the US is, it would be a terrible deal to take
He is basically offering to pay the same amount that Denmark spends in Greenland in one year, to buy it.
Suriel@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 213d
OK fine but if America buys Greenland they could import school shootings.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 213d
They wouldn't have schools though
On the other hand, there is a super prison that Trump maybe could turd into a new mar a Lago more or less as it is (with some added gold paint)
https://youtu.be/n3pTFNPHqq4
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 3 pts · 213d
Only until he learns about the cost of heating in Greenland ;-)
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 213d
As if that orange turd cares about prisoners freezing to death.
Kornblumenratte@feddit.org · 2 pts · 212d
The point was that being a Scandinavian style prison he could use it as Mar-a-Lago style Greenlandic Presidential residence if he added some gold paint, exemplary and sarcastically pointing out what Greenlanders would lose if they joined the US.
Suriel@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d
You got me there ;)
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 213d
I wish they would handle this like a grift. Have Denmark sell Greenland to the U.S. Then the people of Greenland either vote to be independent or rejoin Denmark/EU.
Then Greenland has a "civil war." The rebels want to join the U.S. They get a lot of weapons and training, but somehow lose the war and surrender before a shot is fired.
See how many time and ways they can sell Trump Greenland without really selling it.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 213d
I doubt that they'd be allowed to vote. Puerto Rico would have done so ages ago if they could
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 213d
Akshually, Puerto Rico votes pretty regularly to see if the people want independence, statehood, or to remain a colony. Last voted on in 2024
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 213d
I wouldn't doubt that but even if they had 100% support, it's not like they could just become a sovereign country
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 213d
While we're at it, wasn't he also looking for a triumphal arch?
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 213d
Yeah, I think he still is planning to have one made in his name.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 213d
He's not going to pay.
Source: many decades of history of Trump's finances.
redlemace@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 213d
Money isn't the answer to everything. It's been stated many times: Greenland isn't for sale.
And why they won't/should not even consider this:
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 38 pts · 213d
To add to that, the population of Greenland is more than smart and well-educated enough to recognize a "we'll pay you in glass beads for your land"-scenario.
Put it another way, if some bloke came up to you on the street and offered you a hundred grand out of the blue, you'd immediately and rightfully consider what the fuck their angle is. Nobody does that unless they're guaranteed to gain considerably more than a mere 100K doing it.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 213d
They also know that they would be giving up healthcare, education, infrastructure and much more, by detaching from Denmark.
plyth@feddit.org · -19 pts · 213d
That doesn't make it true. Denmark can't sell it, the people of Greenland can.
Trump is offering them to be part of the North American Technate which provides an abundance of resources. Look at the map.
Of course it's not sure that that promise will be fulfilled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement#The_technate
bobo1900@startrek.website · 16 pts · 213d
That's bullshit. Trump wants Greenland's resources for his empire. The Greenlanders will get exploited and see no benefit to these resources. They will probably lose welfare and gain police brutality.
Did any south american or african colony ever gain anything from being 'acquired' by european powers?
plyth@feddit.org · -8 pts · 213d
I totally agree. But if Musk tells the Greenlanders that they will be part of a land of abundance and that everybody gets $100,000 immediately, I am not sure how they will vote. Americans are not more stupid than others, they are just more influenced.
bobo1900@startrek.website · 5 pts · 213d
I wouldn't be so sure. From the little I know of Greenland, the people are quite combative of their independence, as all native people are once they have been absorbed by western culture. The prime minister/governor/can't remember the title said quite clearly that they aren't for sale.
Also, I don't feel like 100k/resident is really a lot of money.
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 213d
It's the initial offer. There are 56,831 inhabitants. If they pay $1000k/resident it will still be cheaper than Ukraine.
pulsey@feddit.org · 4 pts · 213d
Having met a lot of American abroad, I can't really say that's true.
plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 213d
Nature or nurture?
pulsey@feddit.org · 2 pts · 213d
Nurture for sure. But I guess that applies to everyone.
plyth@feddit.org · -1 pts · 213d
If America brings that influence to Greenland then there is the possibility that they turn the majority. After all the Greenlanders are watching Netflix, Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, X and TikTok and they ask OpenAI for help.
If the EU wants to keep Greenland they should establish the Fediverse there as soon as possible.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d
Wow, what a genius
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 213d
I wouldn't get too enthusiastic over promises of money from from a grifter who is known for not paying his bills.
ragas@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 213d
Even if they would get that money, it will probably be costlier for them to live under US law after the first two years.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 213d
He truly is running the US like a business. Particularly, he's running it like a business that tries to incentivize new customers while ignoring the customers it already has. I'm a US citizen, employed full time, sitting here in my studio apartment eating out of a can of chickpeas, worrying about affording my bills. Where's my money? Oh, wait, I'm already here, like a customer that's already locked into a contract. So fuck me I guess.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 213d
Spot fucking on.
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 213d
and such businessman he is, bankrupting a casino and everything
kokesh@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 213d
If that fucker offers me $10M, I wouldn't even consider it. Being paid to become part of the United Nazi States? No, fuck you tRump.
Denjin@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 213d
Pay you to become American citizen, delay patriation paperwork, deport to Svalbard, seize assets
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 213d
As an American living in America - Tell your countrymen that Trump is a known liar and scam artist.
Americans are suffering right now from everything he's touched.
drsilverworm@midwest.social · 19 pts · 213d
As an American I'm disgusted OUR taxpayer money is being considered for this when so many of us are suffering
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 213d
What's funny is that Trump has promised AMERICANS multiple checks over the year. And we didn't get shit.
And the one time it actually happened was not by him, but his egotistical ass put his name on it anyways.
B0rax@feddit.org · 3 pts · 213d
And now you know how much this promise here is worth
Tiger@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 213d
Ha I read that in the Meidas touch guys voice, one of his most used phrases.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 18 pts · 213d
Dude, that's like 1 doctor visit and 2 Panadol pills in America...
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 213d
Yep, except we call it acetaminophen or Tylenol (though that's a brand name, it's in common usage.)
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 16 pts · 213d
Bribery now? Classy.
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 213d
It's not bribery if you don't pay what you promised...
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 213d
That's fair. I believe that's called fraud, but I'm no criminologist.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 213d
I believe it's called "The Art of the Deal".
Rhea@feddit.org · 16 pts · 213d
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 213d
Trump's people have no clue about how profoundly people in other countries look at the USA and think "thank fuck I don't have to live there."
Hyperrealism@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 213d
Not just Trump's people.
IME many Americans think the rest of the world is full of people who think like Americans, have the same values as Americans, and ultimately deep down all want to become Americans.
For example, a big reason the EU and US failed to sign a trade deal under previous (also democratic) presidents is because of food standards. The US side (including demcrats) seemed to think it's all about money and protectionism, when in reality EU food safety and protecting certain regional products isn't about the money for a lot of Europeans. It's about protecting culture, safety, and national pride. Just look how the UK press bangs on about 'American chlorinated chicken'. Americans typically have trouble grasping how food standards might lead to a government losing the next election.
It's also a big problem for American businesses. Eg. Walmart's failure in Europe because they tried to impose American culture on employees and customers, Disney's initial issues at Disneyland Paris, GM not catering to European tastes and being forced to leave the market, Wendy's troubles entering the EU market because they tried to bully a Dutch business owner and don't understand that not everyone cares about money.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 213d
It is always funny to me that people just pick the first high number they can think of.
Why 100k? Why not 200k? That is an increase of 100%, or even a highly specific amount, say $725892.23?
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 213d
100k per person laughable small, if you consider how much they generate in revenue for the country over let's say 20 years.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 213d
Oh absolutely, my point was more to the cliché of people wanting (or offering) the lowest big number they can think of.
The hostage taker demanding a million, the inventor selling their patent for 10K, the banker offering 100k to compensate for loosing a democratic government.
They all start with the number "1"...
Stop lowballing!
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 7 pts · 213d
Watch out!
I am pretty sure that they rather promise than pay.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 213d
Pay up first.
gets payed now do tje thing
What money? I havent gotten any! Pay up! Then i do it!
Aaand repeat :D
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 213d
A laughable offer. I would expect 10M as an initial. 100k is an insult.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 213d
He can't buy land from people who don't really own it.
The best he can do is bribe people to vote for secession. And then I'd argue they don't get the land, but the point is at best he's rigging a vote.
Penguincoder@beehaw.org · 0 pts · 213d
But the US
can'twon't fund schools or healthcare or ensure our own Americans are fed.Yep, truly America first.
Kornblumenratte@feddit.org · 0 pts · 212d
I think you misunderstood his slogan. It's not Americans first, but America first. That's exactly what he's delivering.
Penguincoder@beehaw.org · 1 pts · 210d