I was eating some chocolate when I imagined a world where Hershey's was widely accepted, even by elitists, as the best chocolate.
Is consumer elitism just a facade for pretentious contrarians? Or are there things where even most snobs agree with the masses?
Also, I mean that the product is intrinsically considered to be the best option. I'm not considering social products where the user network makes the experience.
Edit: I was not eating Hershey's. Hershey's being the best chocolate is a bizarro universe in this hypothetical.
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gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 187d
Curious_Canid@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 187d
Yamaha is amazing. I recently got into playing recorders and their base-level $8 plastic recorder is honestly a great instrument.
Mesa@programming.dev · 2 pts · 186d
I've still got my first bass clarinet which is a Yamaha. Still plays great for what my dad paid for it.
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 187d
Lol recorders are the bane of parents with children in grade school across the US
(This is not a dig at you, I just think it's funny bc I've never seen one outside the context of an elementary school music class)
Curious_Canid@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 187d
No offense taken. They are an odd instrument that no one would know about if they weren't forced on every elementary school music student. I seem to have missed that somehow, probably by changing schools at just the right point.
I like the sound, but I particularly like the sound of the lower-voiced recorders. I am mostly playing tenor and bass, which have lovely rich tones. My wife and a friend are both humoring me, so they're playing soprano and alto with me. I'm not any good at it yet, but I am having a good time learning.
Mesa@programming.dev · 1 pts · 187d
Definitely.
paultimate14@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d
I would disagree with this quite strongly. Most brands have several different tiers of products. Often, especially for the budget-level options like Squiers, the manufacturing is outsourced. For example, my first electric guitar was from Cort, a South Korean company whose main business at the time was doing contract manufacturing for Ibanez, Squier, PRS, and G&L, Kramer, Honer, and more. Literally the same wood and parts, just with slightly different shapes and branding.
The highest-end, elitist guitars would be small shops that focus on handmade custom work. Stuff like Dunable or what PRS used to be. Jackson is now owned by Fender, but it used to be a more premium brand. Custom shop stuff is always going to be premium regardless of brand- Schecter, Ibanez, Dean, Gibson, Fender, doesn't matter.
To compare this to OP's prompt, it would be like if Hershey did custom high-quality chocolate options, also sold good quality chocolate, and also sold a decent value option in grocery stores, and also sold the plastic brown goop they sell today as a budget option.
Curious_Canid@piefed.ca · 23 pts · 187d
Leatherman plier-based multitools. They invented the category and they continue to be the top choice. You can get cheaper tools that are adequate, but Leatherman always has some of the best designs, reliably high quality, and outstanding support. I'm constantly trying new tools from all over, but I always end up carrying one Leatherman or another.
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 187d
I've found Gerber to be a very close second. Depending on what you're looking for in a multitool, I think some of their stuff is better.
Curious_Canid@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 187d
Gerber has made some very good multitools. They have also introduced some significant design improvements over the years. Among other things, they were the first to build one (Legend) where the tools opened outward instead of inward, which seemed like an obvious improvement to me.
My only complaint is that Gerber's quality has been inconsistent. During some periods they've put out cheaply made tools. During others they've produced tools that were the equal of anything else on the market.
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 187d
That's totally fair. I'm not super familiar with them myself, but some of my colleagues used to rave about the brand. I also haven't really carried a multitool for the better part of the last five years, since I changed careers and work in an office now lol.
I like their offset driver design and wish leatherman would come up with something similar- it sucks balls to drive a little screw with any of the leathermen I've owned.
Limerance@piefed.social · 3 pts · 187d
Have you tried the multitool made by Victorinox?
Curious_Canid@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 187d
Yes, I have both a SwissTool and a Spirit. They are excellent tools. I've carried them both at, at one time or another, but I keep going back to Leatherman after a while. I don't think they are better or worse, it's just a matter of what particular uses you have.
Vandals_handle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 186d
Swiss Army knife with tools predates the leatherman by a century, leatherman might have been first with pliers but did not invent the category.
Curious_Canid@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 186d
I did specify that I was talking about plier-based tools in my original response.
I grew up with Swiss Army knives, back before Leatherman was in business. (Yes, I am that old.) I still carry a Rambler with me everywhere I go.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 187d
My thing is they discontinued a lot of the tools I like. I carry a Skeletool and a Style CS, that pair works out great, but they don't make any of the Styles anymore. I also really like my Squirt ES, another they discontinued.
Curious_Canid@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 186d
That has frustrated me too. The Style PS was my idea of a perfect keychain tool, but they killed it in favor of the older, and less capable, Micra.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 186d
The screwdriver on the Style series, the PS, CS and tiny little Style all have it, is unique among multitools. It's long and thin so it can reach down into recessed screw pockets and it comes to a tip sharp enough to turn eyeglass screws. It was perfect, so of course they got rid of it.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 186d
My Skeletool is one of my favorite possessions. I was genuinely upset when it broke (doing something very aggressive with it, not because of any flaw) but it turned out their warranty is legit and I got it back good as new. They even gave me new bits for it when they sent it back.
foggenbooty@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d
I used to agree with you, but their prices have gone up and they've been transforming themselves into a high end lifestyle brand.
My Charge is now almost 20 years old and still going strong, so I'm nit saying their products are bad, but I'm not seeing real innovation come out of them and I'd honestly say for most people a Wave clone is probably good enough. They're totally phoning it in on small tools as well, China is way ahead of them on design.
Curious_Canid@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 186d
For me, the Free series was a significant innovation, but it all depends on what aspect matter to you.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 187d
Lego is the best of the blocks/bricks. Nothing else is close in quality.
dangrousperson@feddit.org · 11 pts · 187d
used to be, but in the last couole of years Legos quality has only gone down, while the price stayed high. Lego now has the same 'quality issues' that the other manufacturers have at more than double the price. Lego includes ugly stickers in $500+ 'Ultimate Collector Sets', which is just a joke, while the competition has printed bricks in most sets these days (super cheap sets still have stickers).
Explanation: Up until 2010 LEGO had a trademark/copyright on their Bricks, but a EU Court decided that the interlocking design can't be trademarked as a 'functional, technical shape'. Before then, mostly incredibly cheap Chinese knockoffs existed, since then other manufacturers have been improving quality control and in some cases surpassing LEGO now.
Check out: BlueBrixx, Cada, Cobi, Mould King
ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 187d
Some of the others are 90% there on quality, which is enough for me to ditch Lego. I can’t accept their insane pricing anymore and the color consistency is also getting worse.
paraplu@piefed.social · 5 pts · 187d
I'm not familiar with the others. Who's 90% that we should look out for?
Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 187d
Cpu architecture. X86 is just a lot easier to deal with compared to risc-v arm, or Apple.
I’m hopeful it will change though, and I’m rooting for risc-v.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 187d
If we're referring to battery life x86 doesn't win very often sadly. There's a reason most handheld devices on earth use ARM.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d
Well, originally it was largely because no x86 implementation implemented decent deep idle behavior. Even as there might be some x86 implementations now that could credibly serve handheld market, the ecosystem is built around ARM so no one has a reason to deviate from that recipe.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 187d
Really? I would have thought that by the easy-to-deal-with metric, anything RISC would win.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 187d
From a users perspective everything runs on x86.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 187d
Oh, I see.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 187d
It's not necessarily the instruction set, it's the platform architecture, the fact there's such a thing as a standard BIOS. You can run Windows, Linux, Haiku etc on practically any PC. There's Linux for ARM, why can't I run Raspberry Pi OS on my Galaxy S10e? It's because, though the instruction set is similar, the platforms very intentionally have nothing to do with each other.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 186d
Strangely enough, we do have Microsoft to thank for it. They didn't want to do the work to enable all that crap nor did they want to enable all the vendors to do their own thing, so they were adamant about standards and if you wanted Windows support, you had to follow standards.
Meanwhile on embedded every little vendor goes wild. In the server space. ARM has taken on a similar scope, but ARM embedded is a mess and ARM server chip makers keep changing as no one gets a foot hold.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 186d
Actually I think we have IBM and their laziness to thank for it.
The original 5150 PC was pretty much an afterthought by Big Blue's standards, they slapped it together from off the shelf parts and bought the OS from some pissant upstart company called Microsoft on a non-exclusive license. The only IP that IBM actually had in the machine was the BIOS. Compaq developing a non-infringing yet compatible BIOS made the x86 PC a multi-vendor platform, which made it more attractive to adopt than the likes of Commodore who made a series of incompatible computers even within their own ecosystem. Note how the only thing Microsoft has ever consistently done that was worth a damn was backwards compatibility...it's the only thing keeping them in business.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d
True, though after Compaq broke the weak exclusivity, Microsoft took over stewardship of all these things like ACPI standards and such. Intel certainly contributed but Microsoft really had the force to make vendors have to honor those standards and norms.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 186d
Interesting. What do ARM platforms have? BIOS and friends, as important as they are, always kind of come across as a precarious tower of baked-in technical debt.
(I know a Galaxy in particular uses a locked-down SoC you can't really touch in the first place)
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 186d
ARM platforms have whatever the developer of that system that day came up with, same as literally everything except x86.
makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 187d
Probably soda. I think most people enjoy Coke/Pepsi and the other mainstream choices are usually considered superior to the small batch artisan stuff
Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 187d
I'll allow that with a big asterisk, if you consider Mexican Coke as coke then yes, its one of the best sodas. If not, there are way better options.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 187d
Do they make chinotto? I have converted and can't go back lmao
Mesa@programming.dev · 1 pts · 187d
Yeah, that's a good one. The alternative stuff that does get popular is usually intended to hit an entirely different market, rather than a higher-end market. Is it Ollie that's the new hot thing? It's being marketed as the "healthy option," and not high-end soda.
I was thinking that the answers here are generally gonna be products that are cheap/synthetic by nature. High quality chocolate has to be high-quality-sourced. High quality soda with the particular flavor that people like exists to the extent that bubbly sugar water can be high-quality.
Good answer.
darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 187d
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · 9 pts · 187d
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 187d
Fun fact, aside from the fluoride, you actually don't need a paste at all. Just the friction does the important part.
mech@feddit.org · 5 pts · 187d
On the other hand, it doesn't really matter. As long as it contains flourite, all toothpastes are fine.
village604@adultswim.fan · 12 pts · 187d
Friendly correction for someone who frequently messes it up, it's fluoride.
Also charcoal toothpaste should be avoided.
unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 187d
Out of curiosity, why?
I've always assumed it was some fad, but I never assumed it was harmful (maybe I'm just naive).
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 187d
It's harder than tooth enamel and can cause erosion.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 187d
Wait, what? They're not putting diamonds in there. Charcoal is softer than graphite, which is a soft mineral to start with.
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 187d
Charcoal ranges from 50-100 on the Rockwell scale while tooth enamel is around 51.
Charcoal can also contain silica since trees absorb it, which is definitely harder than enamel.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 187d
Silica is a common ingredient in most toothpastes.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 186d
Is this the paper you're looking at?
If you found something else, can I have a citation? It's actually really hard to find hardness information on charcoal. Graphite is 0.5 on the Mohs scale, while tooth enamel is 5, for reference.
I can't rule out that it's actually harder than graphite and just seems softer due to being full of voids and crumbly. Then again, the activated charcoal in toothpaste isn't exactly the same thing as the wood charcoal I'd be familiar with (or cow bone charcoal, for some reason).
Silica could wreck you, if there's a significant amount. The silica in normal food is probably a big contributor to tooth wear. If like the other poster says it's a common ingredient I wonder why.
village604@adultswim.fan · 15 pts · 187d
Camping supplies, especially backpacking gear (and especially ultralite gear).
But most of the top equipment brands have legitimate, no questions asked, lifetime warranties.
Also, camping stores. I'll pay a bit extra to get my gear from REI because the employees will spend hours making sure you get a backpack or boots that fit you perfectly.
You can get similar stuff from no-name brands on Amazon, but it's not going to be the same quality.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d
Yeah, as afflicted by compromises as some popular products become in the name of profit, the random brands on Amazon/temu show how even worse it can be. Usually the big brand shows at least a little restraint to avoid burning their brand value to the ground too quickly, but the no names with their knockoffs go full throttle into the ground.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 187d
Cars.
The more boring, mass produced, commonly available, mass-purchased, bare bones bitch of a second-hand car will probably last the longest because of more spare parts available, cheaper labor and more reliable maintenance due to very common repair processes, and a crazy amount of information available online.
iamericandre@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 187d
Cling wrap, the store brand is absolute garbage. The cutting edge sucks and the wrap just tangles up in itself so easily.
ccunning@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 187d
…unless that store is Costco.
Kirkland Signature cling wrap is the best. And the “Easy Cutter” is the best thing to ever happen to cling wrap.
iamericandre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
You got a point there. No Costco here, yet at least
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 187d
Kirkland isn't a typical store brand though, most offerings are just a repackaged name brand from what I understand
ccunning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
They actually do co-branding with some of their KS products. I had to go check and see if the cling wrap was co-branded with Reynolds but it wasn’t; I see in their app the aluminum foil is.
I’ve never seen their sliding “easy cutter” on any brand’s cling wrap before. It really is a game changer.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 7 pts · 187d
Ugh, cling wrap makes me feel like I’m completely fucking up the planet. I hate using it.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
Put a little water on the surface you want it to cling to.
fiendishplan@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 187d
Bourbon - The little indy distillers just don't have the ability to wait the 4 to 10 years for the bourbon to age.
Mesa@programming.dev · 11 pts · 187d
I think it's hard to fit software into this question because typically when a product is made, there isn't as large of a need to make a cheaper / more accessible product on account of larger teams typically meaning faster features, and cracked versions existing. They exist, but they're almost always less feature-complete, and there's a different type of user that seeks out an open-source alternative.
That said, I think FFmpeg is a good entry here.
vin@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 186d
FFmpeg is mainstream?? What are the alternatives?
vin@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 186d
FFmpeg is mainstream?? What's the alternative?
jj4211@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 186d
In terms of why some of the "goto" brands aren't the best, it's generally because they were the best, got popular on merit, and then business folk come along to suck the life out of it, spending brand goodwill while gouging customers and cutting costs.
Some food product recipe changes to cheap, more shelf stable crap for mass production and easy logistics. Some device gets locked into a paid subscription. All the helpful service people get fired and replaced with chat bots and offshored/outsourced staff. Metal components replaced with cheap plastic that degrades. Shipping times increased so they can make everything an ocean away and give the boat time to travel. Also run big marketing pushes so it's really hard to find the quality offerings.
There's just so many ways you can have big margins on big revenue by screwing customers while going they haven't noticed the decline in quality. Very hard for investor class to leave good product alone.
Alberat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 186d
Amazon's delivery time is insane. I use other services like eBay for the most part, but when I need something fast idk who else to use besides Amazon.
Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 186d
And the ability to schedule deliveries to happen on a day of the week when you're likely to be present. And the notifications that your delivery is near, so you can be ready to pick it up (important for expensive items).
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d
Never actually tried that because delivery times are so insane. When I’ve wanted to schedule a specific day, I’ve gotten same day or by 6am delivery, making it moot
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 187d
Hershey's chocolate has a vomit aftertaste. Lindt chocolate is so much better.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 186d
Does Hershey's have a regional taste shift like coke does, based on where it was made? Atlanta coke vs Toronto coke is night and day. Hershey used to be made from Canadian milk shipped down in trucks.
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 186d
Hershey has always had a sort of vomit aftertaste. The presence of butyric acid is the culprit. This compound is created when milk undergoes a process called lipolysis, which breaks down fatty acids to extend the chocolate's shelf life. Butyric acid is also found in human vomit, Parmesan cheese, and rancid butter. This is a direct result of Hershey engineering the chocolate to have a long shelf life. During the early 20th century, when refrigeration wasn’t reliable, the chocolate brand Hershey’s adopted a milk-stabilization process involving controlled lipolysis. The method kept milk usable for large-scale chocolate production as it traveled across country, but it also created butyric acid as a by-product. Butyric acid is perfectly safe to consume.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 186d
I always wondered if part of the problem is the long shelf life. I swear I’ve tasted some hersheys that was good. Perhaps it ages safely but rancid?
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 186d
The aftertaste is very subtle, one might describe it as tangy. If you are an American and have never had foreign chocolate, you've probably only ever had chocolate with with milk that has undergone lipolysis; and you'd likely never notice it. For the first 5 years of my life I was raised in foster care by naturalized Europeans, so my formative years involved Swiss chocolate whenever I had it. Swiss chocolate uses milk that has not undergone lipolysis, and their chocolate is very smooth due to a process called conching. Conching is a mixing process with lots of heating and aeration which allows organic acids to evaporate creating a very uniform and smooth textured chocolate without bitter or tangy afternotes.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 185d
Not at all. While I am American and thought hersheys was chocolate when I was a kid, I left that behind. I actually stopped eating chocolate for many years because it was just so bad. Then a Lindt Chocolatier opened in the lobby where I was working at the time, and it was good. Entirely different.
These days I eat chocolate again bit am quite picky and am willing to spend more for something that actually tastes good.
Except Ghirardelli. People claim that’s good and I agree relative to Hershey, but it really isnt.
It’s probably mostly cost. Hershey is dirt cheap and sold everywhere. Chocolate that tastes good might be several times the cost and you have to goto special stores
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 8 pts · 187d
Xerox.
Velcro.
And up until a few years ago, Google.
Case and Point: We call the non-brand versions of the products by the mainstream product name and not the object's name. We ended up calling all copies "Xeroxes," all hook & loops "Velcro," and when we tell someone to search for it on the internet, we say "Google it." Becsuse, for a time, these were the best versions of their class.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 186d
Case in Point
foggenbooty@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d
Key word there is "for a time".
JamieDub86@piefed.social · 7 pts · 187d
Cadburys was before the it was bought out. Now its Lindt, for me.
Other than fizzy pop i wouldnt consider anything else to have a brand with superiority.
unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 187d
Seconding Lindt. It's fantastic chocolate, hands down. Love those Lindt balls (sounds wrong, but I can't think of the right term right now).
djdarren@piefed.social · 2 pts · 187d
Lindor. Those things are top tier.
SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 187d
Old Cadbury's was hands down the best.
djdarren@piefed.social · 2 pts · 187d
If you can ever lay your hands on Aussie Cadburys, get some. B&M in the UK stocks it, and it's lovely.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 187d
I'm genuinely having trouble thinking of a consumer product where the most widely sold brand or version is the "best" (highest quality, most durable, most features, best flavor, or whatever meteoric would be used).
I can think of a number of products where getting the "best" is a case of steep diminishing returns compared to the increasing price, and for the purposes of the "average" person the "best" product isn't any better for them than the mainstream one. The "best" versions of some products are only better for those with the skills to make use of them or the need for the "best" quality or features.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 186d
Hershey in a sentence with "chocolate" without a negation? This is weird.
When someone offered me a piece of Hersheys "chocolate" ages ago I spit it out and asked if this is perhaps spoiled. No, it wasn't spoiled, this stuff actually tastes vile. I don't know how Americans can stand this stuff...
Cherry@piefed.social · 4 pts · 187d
I feel like Hersheys is an odd example I’d argue Hersheys is tat I can consider it mainstream , but elite no, not when you can either Swiss or a real chocolate elsewhere. But then that’s a different argument of quality over marketing.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk · 20 pts · 187d
Hershey's isn't very well liked outside the US, I believe. It's an acquired taste - to many foreigners it tastes like vomit because of the butyric acid in it.
IronBird@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 187d
US chocolate generally isnt well liked outside the US, there are preservatives they used that make it smell oily (and effects the taste) that the rest of the world bans because they have actual standards and functional regulatory framework
Mesa@programming.dev · 4 pts · 187d
Tastes like vomit to me too. To be clear, I was NOT eating Hershey's. I was playing make-believe.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 187d
Can confirm, it's marketshare is tiny. Though having to compete with like 3+ huge local companies doesn't help.
ccunning@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 187d
People love to bring up the vomit thing, but butyric acid is also naturally found in milk, butter, Parmesan cheese, and even papaya. Things a lot of Hershey’s detractors would claim to like.
I like don’t hate Hershey’s nor do I think it’s the best. I also like European chocolate like Cadbury, Tony’s, etc as well but they do seem a bit flat or one-note in comparison. Sometimes that’s what I want. I can also understand how if that’s what you’re used to any deviation could be off putting.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 187d
ccunning@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 187d
That was the comparison I made. I thought I was pretty explicit about that in my comment. I count myself lucky that I can taste it and I enjoy it. Some folks just prefer a simpler flavor profile.
I’ll readily admit I’m a bit of an odd duck, though. I can appreciate and enjoy more challenging foods than most.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 187d
Those are low-to-mid tier at best though. Good chocolate is stuff like Callebaut
ccunning@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 187d
So is Hershey’s. It seemed fair to me to compare like to like
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 187d
Eh, good point.
Mesa@programming.dev · 4 pts · 187d
I was using it as a counter-example.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 186d
Disturbing how many people couldn't pick up on that.
ptc075@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 186d
I'm thinking about things where the brand name has become "the name" of the thing. Kleenex & Google come to mind. Here in the SE corner of the USA, we say "Coke" instead of soda or pop.
Apparently, there's a name for this. "Generic Trademark". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_trademark
Also, I really like Hershey's. Family grew up not far from their site, was always the chocolate we had as kids. So I like your bizarro universe. :D
oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 186d
Younger me, working in a warehouse job came across one that I found hilarious.
We used pallet sized boxes to move stuff around. But it was really more of a short cardboard tube, square shaped but only flaps on the bottom, there was no actual top or bottom side.
And what was it called? It was a "gaylord".
I thought for sure that they were pushing me as the new guy, but everyone I came across used the term so naturally and consistently. Even when I worked at a separate site for a while, everyone there used it too. I never looked into it farther, but I eventually accepted it.
I don't remember if I ever did it with a straight face, but that's what I called them.
white_nrdy@programming.dev · 1 pts · 186d
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rRi8LptvFZY
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 187d
Damn, that would be a sad world, I guess 75% of the chocolate companies must have got destroyed or something, cause Hershey's taste like corn and it's disgusting
ieGod@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 187d
Photoshop.
Mesa@programming.dev · 8 pts · 187d
Which is crazy considering how unpopular Adobe is.
Relevant video.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 187d
Even more relevant video
There are definitely decent adobe alternatives. Though I am a little worried about what Canva is doing to affinity.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 187d
Food staples. I know cans are old technology, but they fucking work. They'll last at least literally forever, and depending on the item come surprisingly close in quality to the fresh or homemade item. Dried beans and pasta are also a great deal.
MurrayL@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 187d
MacBooks.
Plenty of reasons to hate Apple as a company but the hardware and build quality of MacBooks really is second to none. I know several Linux/OSS die-hards who swear by their M1 MBPs.
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 187d
I full heartily disagree because MacBooks are a trap: While I agree with you in terms of production quality it's a point of no return for a lot of use cases which rarely makes it the best option in my opinion.
It's basically eliminating too many options down the road for it to be a good recommendation for most people for me. There are exceptions of course but i couldn't call it "best" with good conscience.
Mesa@programming.dev · 3 pts · 187d
Right. Of the major operating systems, I think none of them are good answers for this. Too close of a market share to really be in the spirit of the question, and they all really do hit different markets.
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 187d
Agreed - and none of them are a catch-all answer suited for everyone from my point of view.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 187d
Wake me up when you can repair one without Apple's hostility and replace storage and RAM without a soldering iron. Hard pass.
village604@adultswim.fan · 1 pts · 187d
Tons of Windows based laptops have soldered storage and ram, though.
But you'll pay extra just because it's Apple
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 187d
I can attest to this for older models. It's really hard to know if standards have slipped in their luxury product era, though.
unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 187d
My over 10 year old ThinkPad disagrees. The abuse it has put up with while still working puts macbooks to shame.
I know, the newer ThinkPads aren't what they used to be, but I have a pretty new one as my work computer, and it still doesn't let the MacBooks off the hook.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 187d
The MacBook I'm typing on (in Linux) is closer to 15.
djdarren@piefed.social · 4 pts · 187d
2011 Macbook gang rise up!
I don't use mine that much these days, but it's still going strong. Two SSDs, 16GB RAM, and it's running Arch(btw). The thing won't die.
unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 187d
Yes, but I mean... Has it survived a fall from about a meter onto a concrete floor, a fall from an overhead luggage rack, as well as a number of other falls I don't remember, all without a case - and a bicycle accident (that time in a laptop bag)?
That's what I mean. Just about any computer will last 15 years if handled carefully, but surviving a lot of active use and abuse, that's another story.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 186d
I could totally believe that ThinkPads are more rugged under actual abuse. I don't think Apple tries to be, really.
That being said, I have plenty of other younger laptops around that have been reduced to server usage do to falling apart. Apple's early adoption of SSD also helps.
GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 187d
Kraft singles American cheese. If you like American cheese (which is not everyone and that's fine) then the off brands are garbage, to me.
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · -13 pts · 187d
otacon239@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 187d
You’re right. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. But for those few games that don’t run you get:
Computers are more than video game machines. I made the final switch away from Windows because I wanted to be treated like a person, not a customer.
It’s a lot more about philosophy than functionality. When something doesn’t work in Linux, I know it’s a genuine mistake someone made and that it wasn’t intentional. M$ has infinite money and they can’t even figure out how to keep the Sleep function working while at the same time forcing you to sign up for an account that they can choose to cancel for any reason whenever they feel like.
You don’t own your PC on Windows.
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · -12 pts · 187d
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 187d
fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org · -7 pts · 187d
Mesa@programming.dev · 8 pts · 187d
Can you honestly say that you didn't come to this thread looking for this fight?
I dual boot Kubuntu and Windows Enterprise LTSC for the best of both worlds, at the price of a little bit of redundant storage. There's pros and cons to both. I think being able to recognize that is all the other user was initially saying, rather than pretending like they're not there.
It's also why I feel like the answer isn't in the spirit of the question: each of the major OSes hit a different type of user, and you just admitted that the snobs and elitists mostly exist on the Linux side (and Mac), which is true.
YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth · 5 pts · 187d
I mean, if all you want is a video game box, and you don't care about privacy, security, or customizability, Windows is more compatible, sure. I wouldn't call it better.
The games I enjoy (e.g. Portal 2, No Man's Sky, Split Fiction to name a small few) all get noticeably better performance on Mint via Proton than on Windows. But games like Destiny 2, Fortnite, etc. with their invasive anti-cheats will never work on a system that respects the user's privacy.
So if what you want is compatibility, sure, Windows is king. But you do pay a price.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 187d
Honestly, I've "solved" this by accepting defeat. My gaming PC is only used for gaming, and I consider it to be roughly on par with an Xbox or Playstation or work laptop. Any data on it should be considered public.
I do literally everything else on my Linux box, which I actually feel OK about. Yes, I could dual boot, but honestly, having my stuff airgapped from the crazy intrusive "security" is nice.
YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 187d
This is the way
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 187d
Is that because your games need a rootkit to let you play, or is it an actual incompatibility? I've been running Bazzite at home for over a year now with minimal issues.
People recommend moving away from the company that abuses it's users and is enshittifying it's OS to the point it's becoming slop. And I'm not a windows hater, I support it professionally and have for over a decade. But the writing is unfortunately on the wall, so finding ways to make your system work better for you is a good idea before Microsoft really fucks you over with a bad update that bricks your system.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 187d
Oh I see, you want to
dieget downvoted to hell.