Sony to Reboot Spider-Man Universe With “New People” After Several Box Office Flops
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sony-spider-man-universe-reboot-1236513911/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sony-spider-man-universe-reboot-1236513911/
66 Comments
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 89 pts · 175d
AGAIN? In my lifetime now I have seen... god how many 4 separate spiderman reboots? This is literally the definition of insanity. Take. The hint. Sony, we are tired of superheroes. They're fun, but god can you give it 2 years without doing a spiderman film?
ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 175d
They literally can't. If they go too long between spider man movies the rights revert back to Marvel.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 34 pts · 175d
Now that I didn't know, and explains a lot. That seems like either a very smart deal by marvel, and/or a very stupid deal by sony
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org · 27 pts · 175d
Sony made the deal in the late 1990s when Marvel was basically bankrupt. They didn't predict that Disney would eventually own the whole thing and turn it into a behemoth.
To be fair, the fact that it is now a behemoth is probably a factor in why Sony continues to throw money at it instead of letting the rights lapse. The more people Disney gets into Marvel, the more potential for better return on a Sony-made movie in the same universe. At least that's probably what the execs think.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 174d
Why is it stupid?
Sony is making 100s of millions of this shit..
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 175d
That doesn't mean the best course of action is dumping a billion dollars into a movie that flops.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 175d
So our only hope is that they keep on making shit movies until they decide they're only going to keep on losing money and hand it back to marvel
Or.... They could just revive the Spectacular Spiderman series, right? Everyone loved that show.
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 174d
I don't know all the legal stuff, but my understanding is that use in shows is a separate license. Sony specifically owns the rights to live action feature length films.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 175d
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 175d
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 175d
bonenode@piefed.social · 4 pts · 174d
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 14 pts · 175d
Ftfy
I'm not tired of superheroes. I'm tired of the same superheroes being rebooted again and again, and then shitty, poorly written, poorly acted money grabs.
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 174d
This right here. Nothing wrong with a Spider-Man movie, I'm looking forward to the next entry in the animated Spider Verse movies. Solid story telling that's not rehashing hours origin story for the millionth time
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 175d
The Uncle Ben must be sacrificed!
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 174d
People keep seeing them…..
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works · 61 pts · 175d
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 51 pts · 175d
I was confused because I thought the recent Spider-Man movies did really well, but apparently they're counting Morbius, Madame Web, and Kraven the Hunter as part of the "Spider-Man universe". Turns out "Spider-Man" movies without Spider-Man in them don't tend to do well.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 38 pts · 175d
These people need a fucking reality check, for a litany of reasons.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 174d
For all the people confused about this headline because of the runaway success of the last 5 spider-man films, they’re specifically talking about the spider-man-less spider-man universe films
PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 175d
Spider Man succeeds? Make more!
Spider Man flops? Also make more!
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 175d
How many will star Jared Leto?
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 175d
Spider-verse Trilogy: “Am I a joke to you?”
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 175d
Yeah, reeeally hoping this doesn't fuck over the third animated Spiderverse film, myself. The first two have been a glorious breath of fresh air as far as animation styles go IMO.
LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 175d
GORGEOUS animation!
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 174d
For those annoyed with all these Spider-Man films, Sony is obligated to keep making them to avoid losing the film rights. They're ruining the franchise one movie at a time for this crap. At this point they should just stop and avoid throwing more money away.
DragonAce@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 175d
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the way it sounds is that they're not touching Tom Holland's version of Spiderman, but rather they're starting from scratch with all the extended Spiderman universe (e.g Venom, sinister-six, Madame Web, Kraven, etc...)
Especially considering Rothman is quoted as saying "Never bet against Kevin Feige".
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 175d
Yes. Sony has the rights to everything Spider-Man except for modern normal Spider-Man (Tom Holland is Marvel). Sony made Spider-Verse, Madame Web, Venom, they can only make Spider-universe stuff. They could make a real Spider-Gwen movie and it would probably be a hit. That's what the trailers for Madame Web looked like it was going to be, until I made the mistake of watching it.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 175d
That sounds like fun, who you casting as Gwen?
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 175d
Chris Pratt.
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 174d
Nah, he's over done. Now Chris Pine could do a solid Gwen
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 174d
I was thinking Jack Black.
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 174d
The sinister six, starring Chris Pratt, Jack Black, Jared Leto, the rock, Timothee chalamet and awkwafina
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 174d
Knowing Sony was behind the Spider-Verse makes me think maybe they can finally make a good LA one?
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 175d
I wouldn't mind a movie about a young J. Jonah Jameson in his investigative reporter days.
Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 174d
HubertManne@piefed.social · 12 pts · 175d
hurray. another reboot. just what everyone was asking for.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 174d
I'm pretty sure it's so Sony can:
I remember Sony had a contract that they have the rights to Spiderman, as long as they keep making movies with it.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 3 pts · 174d
yeah that was why we had the crap ff4 movies to.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 175d
Wtf?!
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 175d
AngryRedHerring@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 174d
Oh yeah, China, we'll totally reshoot the entire third act of our huge movie for you so you won't feel bad. Lemme get on the phone to Toby and Andrew here...
It's not like the movie wasn't going to be pirated all over China anyway. Fucking ridiculous posturing.
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 175d
I know China is not without problems, but between the public infrastructure, cheap food, cheap electric vehicles, and now they don't have Marvel movies either? It sounds like paradise.
Edit: can't tell if anti-China or pro-marvel.
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 175d
Bro they don't have strong enough plumbing for toilet paper, the fuck you on about?
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 174d
Ever heard of a bidet?
fartographer@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 175d
Make a remake of the Bollywood one. Keep Govinda as Superman. Use all the same effects, but boost the production value. Use the same choreography with floating head digi-doubles, animated by the Little Mermaid FX team.
If you can get the budget over a billion dollars, I'd see it once in theaters.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 175d
If Sony wants a superhero universe, why not just adapt InFamous?
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 174d
Please
EverXIII@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 174d
Do we need another Spider Man movie? In my opinion, the first series were the best...
Redstone1@lemmings.world · 5 pts · 175d
Later - Sony's Spiderman reboot marks 8th flop
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 175d
Sony should make a deal with Disney. Allow Disney use the Spider rights on movies while Sony could use marvel rights on games.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 175d
I suspect Sony just thinks if they throw enough money at it, they'll get more return than they would have before, since Disney has bolstered the Marvel brand. If that's true, they'll hang on to the deal they have as long as possible.
The world would be very different if Sony had just looked to acquire Marvel in its entirety when the Spiderman deal was made (which was ≈10 years prior to the Disney buyout).
Blaze@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 175d
Do they have the rights to have Spider-Man in that universe this time?
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 175d
Sony has the movie rights to Spider-Man, full stop. They lent Spidey to the MCU for a cut.
j_elgato@leminal.space · 9 pts · 175d
In order to maintain the film rights, they have to make a spider man film every so often (2 years?) or the rights lapse and they loose them.
Thus. Reboots. And Morbius. Etc...
TheImpressiveX@piefed.social · 3 pts · 175d
*5 years and 9 months, to be exact.
j_elgato@leminal.space · 2 pts · 175d
Now, if only there was a way to keep them from making a new fucking batman movie every 90 mins or so...
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 175d
Wait, hold on, the last FIVE Spider-Man movies (three MCU entries and two (soon to be three) animated films, all under Sony’s label) have been domestic and foreign successes. Blockbusters even.
They're just mad they can’t make a decent Spider-Man without help.
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 174d
It is time to give Italian spiderman a try.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 175d
I really hope they add more legs this time, it is just unrealistic that they only have four in the old Spidermans.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 174d
when they release this many, there's too many for me to bother keeping up with, and I tune it out
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 2 pts · 175d
Did they ever consider that maybe people are actually tired of Spider-Man? He's been on TV or in theaters constantly for the last 60 years, retelling the exact same story, rehashing the same few "classic" runs of the comic. Maybe we're just generally tired of "genius loser with superstrength". Maybe we don't need another high school story. Maybe, just maybe, they should look at a genuinely new property rather than Disney dreck.
mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 174d
This isn't rebooting the Marvel universe Spider-Man movies. This is rebooting all the ones that specifically had zero Spider-Man despite being about his main enemies: Morbius, Kraven, Madame Web, and Venom.
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 175d
What we need is a Clone Saga on the screen
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 175d
Are there any sets of identical quadruplets who are all currently acting? Because it just wouldn't work with an overreliance on camera tricks and CGI.
KnitWit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 175d
Elijah Wood and Daniel Radcliffe, could each do a couple for subtle differences of clones and could make camera tricks easier. Both are good enough and odd enough to make it work.
thejoker954@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 175d
Not quintuplets, but the Hemsworth brothers(?) Look pretty similar.
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 174d
JUST. FUCKING. STOP. YOU DON'T HAVE THE CHOPS.