Unfortunately, that one is already reserved for Budd Dwyer. The years of corruption and cover-up are now a daily occurrence, and his ultimate public apology and suicide showed a level shame and empathy that you couldn't find in these days.
Opponents have challenged provisions of the USA Patriot Act, the focus of contentious debate on Capitol Hill this week, that expand domestic surveillance by giving the Federal Bureau of Investigation more power to collect information like library lending lists or Internet use. Military and F.B.I. officials have drawn criticism for monitoring what were largely peaceful antiwar protests.
What Obama said was not entirely true to Robert's personality and actions, but that is beside the point.
The point is that some people have decorum and are good speakers. Some people, even if they don't mean it, are respectful of the dead, even if they don't deserve it.
And some manchildren have none of that. The day that man baby dies I probably won't have any decorum either.
Obama very wisely and maturely appointed Mueller's protege James Comey to head the FBI. Comey very diligently and methodically played Ds and Rs against one another to secure his position as a radical centrist. And between the two of them, the conditions were laid for a Manchild to take control of the executive branch.
I just don't get the need for hagiography. All these guys sucked. Some of them were just smoother about it than others.
He sent his kids to work at Miramax fully aware of Harvey Weinstein's history. He spent more labor and resources conducting a Cold War across Latin America and the Middle East than cracking down on the crooks, the white nationalists, and the pedophiles at home.
Ffs, his chief economic advisor - Larry Summers - absolutely was a pedophile. As were his political allies in the tech sector, Elon Musk and Bill Gates.
If he wasn't personally schtupping kids, he was enabling and enriching those that did.
Trump, himself, was engaged in open and notorious human trafficking through Eastern Europe during Obama's tenure. This whole thing could have been nipped in the bud if his FBI director James Comey cared half as much about Krasnov as Hillary's emails.
It's like the pro-life of conservatives, a good soundbite but actually "decorum" means respecting absolutely nothing, like pro-life means intense hatred towards living people.
"All lives matter" is another school of thought equivalent to insisting on decorum.
You just assumed I'm a centrist because I expect politicians to be respectful of each other? Holy shit dude there is something wrong with your moral compass. Respecting people and disagreeing with them are not mutually exclusive.
Yes, there was his part in the selling of the WMD narrative in Iraq:
On February 11, 2003, one month before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Mueller gave testimony to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Mueller informed the American public that "[s]even countries designated as state sponsors of terrorism—Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Cuba, and North Korea—remain active in the United States and continue to support terrorist groups that have targeted Americans. As Director Tenet has pointed out, Secretary Powell presented evidence last week that Baghdad has failed to disarm its weapons of mass destruction, willfully attempting to evade and deceive the international community. Our particular concern is that Saddam Hussein may supply terrorists with biological, chemical or radiological material."[48][49] Highlighting this worry in February 2003, FBI Special Agent Coleen Rowley wrote an open letter to Mueller in which she warned that "the bureau will [not] be able to stem the flood of terrorism that will likely head our way in the wake of an attack on Iraq"[50][51] and encouraged Mueller to "share [her concerns] with the President and Attorney General."
But he did oppose the renewal of the warrantless wiretapping:
On March 10, 2004, while United States Attorney General John Ashcroft was at the George Washington University Hospital for gallbladder surgery,[52] then-deputy attorney general James Comey received a call from Ashcroft's wife informing him that White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card and White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales were about to visit Ashcroft to convince him to renew a program of warrantless wiretapping under the Terrorist Surveillance Program which the DOJ ruled unconstitutional.[52] Ashcroft refused to sign, as he had previously agreed, but the following day the White House renewed the program anyway.[52] Mueller and Comey then threatened to resign.[53] On March 12, 2004, after private, individual meetings with Mueller and Comey at the White House, the president supported changing the program to satisfy the concerns of Mueller, Ashcroft, and Comey.
Mueller being a republican, he wasnt going to do real damage to trump. but trump is very vindictive, any perception of being accused he will attack them regardless of thier loyaltly.
Unlike Capt. Bonespurs, Mueller enlisted for Vietnam and was a highly decorated Marine.
After waiting a year so a knee injury could heal, Mueller was accepted for officer training in the United States Marine Corps in 1968, attending training at Parris Island, Officer Candidate School, Army Ranger School, and Army jump school. Of these, he said later that he considered Ranger School the most valuable because he felt "more than anything teaches you about how you react with no sleep and nothing to eat."[27][28]
Reflecting on his service in the Vietnam War, Mueller said, "I consider myself exceptionally lucky to have made it out of Vietnam. There were many—many—who did not. And perhaps because I did survive Vietnam, I have always felt compelled to contribute."[35] In 2009, he told a writer that despite his other accomplishments, he was still "most proud the Marine Corps deemed me worthy of leading other Marines."
Mueller has cited the combat death of his Princeton lacrosse teammate David Spencer Hackett in the Vietnam War as an influence on his decision to pursue military service.[24] Of his classmate, Mueller has said, "One of the reasons I went into the Marine Corps was because we lost a very good friend, a Marine in Vietnam, who was a year ahead of me at Princeton. There were a number of us who felt we should follow his example and at least go into the service. And it flows from there."[25] Hackett was a Marine Corps first lieutenant in the infantry and was killed in 1967 in Quảng Trị province by small arms fire.[26]
I was in 1st/2nd grade, but rode the schoolbus with high schoolers in the early 70s. Kids who had relatives drafted. Everyone hated that war but some felt a need to enlist for reasons such as those of Mueller. A good friend of mine enlisted in the Marines 20 years after his uncle was killed in Vietnam, out of a sense of honoring his memory. He is no monster.
But, even if you want to give some people the benefit of the doubt because of poor education and indoctrination, Mueller went to Princeton. He wasn't tricked or desperate or clueless; he went to Vietnam knowing exactly what he was signing up for.
Ideally his grave will be in a landfill in Siberia, not that I would want you to travel that far to piss on his grave, but he does belong in the most remote Siberian landfill.
As one of probably 12 people who actually read the Mueller report it was a list of crimes the president and conspirators committed, and very clearly left it up to the branch of government required to impeach and remove the president, legislative via Congress. That part was the job of Congress, not the judicial branch. But obviously then the US Congress abdicated their responsibilities to uphold the constitution in both the facts of the report and both impeachments, ignoring the facts of reality and their legal obligations under the constitution. Because people like Mitch McConnell whipped politicians to kill any action the executive lied that the report contained no crimes and corrupt mass media propaganda sold the lie to the public as usual. Mueller wasn't some saint, but when he had the chance to stick to his values or sell out he at least was consistent with his values.
I always tell Maga chuds to actually read the Mueller report before they tell me that there was "no collusion". They are fucking simpletons that get their hot takes from Fox News or some stupid influencer (likely on the Kremlin's payroll) and run with it. They have 0 critical thinking skills and can't be bothered to do a single bit of research beyond the idiot box. It's maddening.
It is incredible to me how they're willing to bend and break so many rules and laws of this country, including the most fundamental tenets of our constitution. But indicting the president is the one thing they're not going to do. That's the one law that is sacred above all else.
Take him off the pedestal in your mind. The man is responsible for the existence of ICE, and has one of the highest scores of drone striking civilians out of any president.
Oh goodie. When trump inevitably dies and I throw a pizza party, I look forward to being able to take this screenshot, swap the names, and shove it in the face of every magat who insincerely demands civility
Berlinguer[*] has been described in many ways but was generally recognised for political coherence and courage, together with a rare personal and political intelligence. A serious and morally rigorous man,[87] he was sincerely respected even by his opponents, such as the Italian Social Movement leader Giorgio Almirante,[**] who paid his homage to Berlinguer and lowered himself in front to his coffin at Botteghe Oscure.[70]
[*] national ssecretary of the Italian Communist Party (PCI)
[**] Giorgio Almirante (27 June 1914 – 22 May 1988) was an Italian politician who founded the neo-fascist Italian Social Movement, which he led until his retirement in 1987
Allegedly Almirante, a guy who literally sentence fellow Italians to death, said that "Oltre il rogo non vive ira nemica" ("No foe's wraith survives the funerary pure")
Lowkey agree with trump here (for different reasons obviously). Any leader of these imperial spy networks should be publically tortured for 1000 days before being executed slowly, to answer for their crimes. The fact that Mueller died without such comeuppance happening almost motivates me to believe in a hell so that he would suffer. I hope people piss and shit on his grave.
So was Mueller? Do you have a point that relates to the post? I assume not, and your hobby just going around shouting 'murica bad? Maybe go do that elsewhere
Boo hoo a piece of shit boomer died who failed to hold people in power accountable for breaking the law. Yeah obama you are so classy thanks for all the drone strikes and handouts to corporations im glad you arent controlled oppression for the wealthy elites of america
Your ire is worth less than fuck all and does nothing. You literally just said the equivalent of, " thoughts and prayers these kid raping baby eaters stop"
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arctanthrope@lemmy.world · 223 pts · 173d
do you think he realizes he's written his own eulogy
Ariselas@piefed.ca · 86 pts · 173d
Ding-Dong! The Witch is Dead topped charts when Thatcher croaked, wonder what song will chart when Donnie dies?
jontree255@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 173d
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ3Lowk_064
lonefighter@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 173d
"that's why I say hey man nice shot"
fartographer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 173d
Unfortunately, that one is already reserved for Budd Dwyer. The years of corruption and cover-up are now a daily occurrence, and his ultimate public apology and suicide showed a level shame and empathy that you couldn't find in these days.
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 4 pts · 173d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BQx0p1nVzg
VGpunx@lemmy.org · 2 pts · 172d
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jdzfHvCI8
krashmo@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 173d
That really will be the perfect repost when he dies and MAGA inevitably tries to call out everyone celebrating as disrespectful
drmoose@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 173d
Commenting here for a historic inb4. Hopefully we don't need to wait that long.
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 149 pts · 173d
God, what a fucking child. I'm sick of being governed by hurt feelings.
Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 39 pts · 173d
Being able to handle hurt fee fees like an adult needs to be a requirement for any public office.
gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 92 pts · 173d
Aaaaand of course it's real... WTF
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 173d
The fact we have to check tells us a lot about the state of the world.
autriyo@feddit.org · 3 pts · 173d
At this point I'm so jaded that I just kind of accepted it to be real...
I just don't care anymore, he's shown his true colours and for whatever reasons people still like him.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 173d
Wasn't Mueller behind the massive illegal spying program under George Bush Jr?
https://archive.is/PFUm4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Surveillance_Program
Shirasho@lemmings.world · 53 pts · 173d
What Obama said was not entirely true to Robert's personality and actions, but that is beside the point.
The point is that some people have decorum and are good speakers. Some people, even if they don't mean it, are respectful of the dead, even if they don't deserve it.
And some manchildren have none of that. The day that man baby dies I probably won't have any decorum either.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 173d
Obama very wisely and maturely appointed Mueller's protege James Comey to head the FBI. Comey very diligently and methodically played Ds and Rs against one another to secure his position as a radical centrist. And between the two of them, the conditions were laid for a Manchild to take control of the executive branch.
I just don't get the need for hagiography. All these guys sucked. Some of them were just smoother about it than others.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 173d
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 2 pts · 173d
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 173d
Arcadeep@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
Well, he'd have to have done anything positive in the first place
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 173d
He sent his kids to work at Miramax fully aware of Harvey Weinstein's history. He spent more labor and resources conducting a Cold War across Latin America and the Middle East than cracking down on the crooks, the white nationalists, and the pedophiles at home.
Ffs, his chief economic advisor - Larry Summers - absolutely was a pedophile. As were his political allies in the tech sector, Elon Musk and Bill Gates.
If he wasn't personally schtupping kids, he was enabling and enriching those that did.
Trump, himself, was engaged in open and notorious human trafficking through Eastern Europe during Obama's tenure. This whole thing could have been nipped in the bud if his FBI director James Comey cared half as much about Krasnov as Hillary's emails.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 1 pts · 172d
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 7 pts · 173d
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 173d
"Decorum" is a top principle of so-called centrists.
Gathorall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 172d
It's like the pro-life of conservatives, a good soundbite but actually "decorum" means respecting absolutely nothing, like pro-life means intense hatred towards living people.
"All lives matter" is another school of thought equivalent to insisting on decorum.
Shirasho@lemmings.world · 3 pts · 173d
You just assumed I'm a centrist because I expect politicians to be respectful of each other? Holy shit dude there is something wrong with your moral compass. Respecting people and disagreeing with them are not mutually exclusive.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 2 pts · 173d
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 9 pts · 173d
Hatshepsut@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
Yes, there was his part in the selling of the WMD narrative in Iraq:
But he did oppose the renewal of the warrantless wiretapping:
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 172d
Bullerfar@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 172d
This is basicly what banned me for life on reddit xD
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 172d
Charlie Kirk?
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
Same
Aeri@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 172d
Probably the kind of message I'll be sending when it happens.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 172d
The SS has joined the chat
(yes, the Secret Service is now abbreviated as "The SS")
Bullerfar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 172d
True
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 172d
When that fucking orange Russian cum rag finally dies, I am going to the nearest bar and buying everyone there a round.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 35 pts · 173d
Mueller being a republican, he wasnt going to do real damage to trump. but trump is very vindictive, any perception of being accused he will attack them regardless of thier loyaltly.
Hatshepsut@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 173d
Unlike Capt. Bonespurs, Mueller enlisted for Vietnam and was a highly decorated Marine.
...
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 173d
Anyone who would volunteer for that war is a fucking monster.
Hatshepsut@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 173d
I was in 1st/2nd grade, but rode the schoolbus with high schoolers in the early 70s. Kids who had relatives drafted. Everyone hated that war but some felt a need to enlist for reasons such as those of Mueller. A good friend of mine enlisted in the Marines 20 years after his uncle was killed in Vietnam, out of a sense of honoring his memory. He is no monster.
Hapankaali@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 172d
The logic is a bit weird though. Like picking up smoking out of solidarity because your buddy died of lung cancer.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 173d
So he went to Vietnam to avenge another monster who was killed for being an invader?
We'd be better off as a society if every single person who volunteered for Vietnam never came back.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 172d
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 172d
You aren't wrong!
But, even if you want to give some people the benefit of the doubt because of poor education and indoctrination, Mueller went to Princeton. He wasn't tricked or desperate or clueless; he went to Vietnam knowing exactly what he was signing up for.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 172d
FatVegan@leminal.space · 3 pts · 173d
So he was just a terrorist. Got it
dumbass@piefed.social · 28 pts · 173d
Fixed it.
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club · 26 pts · 173d
ONE of those Reminds me of Jesus!
-Republicans talking about the BOTTOM one!
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
ah yes. my favorite part of the bible.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 172d
DJT will receive the same sentiments after he dies. Soon I hope.
blarth@thelemmy.club · 12 pts · 172d
Can’t wait to piss on his grave. It should be a national holiday.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
Ideally his grave will be in a landfill in Siberia, not that I would want you to travel that far to piss on his grave, but he does belong in the most remote Siberian landfill.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
I'll travel from Canada just so I can take a shit on his grave.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 173d
I cannot wait till Donny is just a Wikipedia update, from “is” to “was”
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 172d
As one of probably 12 people who actually read the Mueller report it was a list of crimes the president and conspirators committed, and very clearly left it up to the branch of government required to impeach and remove the president, legislative via Congress. That part was the job of Congress, not the judicial branch. But obviously then the US Congress abdicated their responsibilities to uphold the constitution in both the facts of the report and both impeachments, ignoring the facts of reality and their legal obligations under the constitution. Because people like Mitch McConnell whipped politicians to kill any action the executive lied that the report contained no crimes and corrupt mass media propaganda sold the lie to the public as usual. Mueller wasn't some saint, but when he had the chance to stick to his values or sell out he at least was consistent with his values.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 172d
I always tell Maga chuds to actually read the Mueller report before they tell me that there was "no collusion". They are fucking simpletons that get their hot takes from Fox News or some stupid influencer (likely on the Kremlin's payroll) and run with it. They have 0 critical thinking skills and can't be bothered to do a single bit of research beyond the idiot box. It's maddening.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 172d
It is incredible to me how they're willing to bend and break so many rules and laws of this country, including the most fundamental tenets of our constitution. But indicting the president is the one thing they're not going to do. That's the one law that is sacred above all else.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 172d
They would be shocked, if they knew how to read.
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 173d
I think it's gonna take a revolution to overthrow Trump at this point, not that I think there should be a revolution like that.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 173d
Did you know that it's illegal to say "We should kill the president"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jdzfHvCI8
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 173d
Yet it's not illegal to say "it'll take a huge revolution to change this country"
Gathorall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 172d
Well that could mean something like Jan 6 so obviously can't prosecute that.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 173d
In Minecraft
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 173d
Well, criminals generally don't like law enforcement officers...
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 173d
When you think about it, this really demonstrates how DJT fucks kids and is getting away with it
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 172d
"I am glad is dead" tells everything
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 172d
Why the fuck is Obama on X? I fucking hate this timeline and the stupid fucking people living in it.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 172d
He's a politician and a former president? Of course he's on X. Every single politician has been for almost a decade now.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 172d
Take him off the pedestal in your mind. The man is responsible for the existence of ICE, and has one of the highest scores of drone striking civilians out of any president.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 173d
Oh goodie. When trump inevitably dies and I throw a pizza party, I look forward to being able to take this screenshot, swap the names, and shove it in the face of every magat who insincerely demands civility
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
You've got at least another 5 years. His handlers will duct tape him together long enough to get the Constitution out of the way.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 172d
Did I miss something? Robert "Patriot Act" Mueller is now liked by Lemmy just because Trump doesn't like him?
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 5 pts · 172d
It's about decorum.
Allegedly Almirante, a guy who literally sentence fellow Italians to death, said that "Oltre il rogo non vive ira nemica" ("No foe's wraith survives the funerary pure")
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 172d
I keep getting whiplash too.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 8 pts · 173d
Both of them are on websites owned by Nazis
AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 173d
I'm going to create social media accounts and post this same thing about Trump when he dies.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 173d
Once again, Obama outclasses Trump just by existing.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 173d
This Tweet will re-circulate when he finally croaks.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 172d
"Innocent".
fizzle@quokk.au · 4 pts · 173d
Pathetic.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 173d
"Ooh, he tells it like it is! We needed a tough man to rule us!" -- Half the country, and that's the problem
III@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 173d
Quick, someone photoshop "Charlie Kirk" over Meuller's name in Trump's tweet.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 173d
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 172d
GladiusB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
Trump sucks fat Clinton Cock and is mad that anyone but him is the center of attention
spacesatan@leminal.space · 1 pts · 172d
Correct take for the wrong reasons vs bad take wrapped in decorum.
'the difference is real' yeah sure I guess.
sangeteria@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 173d
Lowkey agree with trump here (for different reasons obviously). Any leader of these imperial spy networks should be publically tortured for 1000 days before being executed slowly, to answer for their crimes. The fact that Mueller died without such comeuppance happening almost motivates me to believe in a hell so that he would suffer. I hope people piss and shit on his grave.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 173d
The difference is superficial, they're both voluntary participants in and beneficiaries of a fundamentally evil system at the highest level of power.
Hemuphone@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 173d
So was Mueller? Do you have a point that relates to the post? I assume not, and your hobby just going around shouting 'murica bad? Maybe go do that elsewhere
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · -7 pts · 173d
My point is the difference is not real, it's superficial. Learn to read dumbass.
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com · -6 pts · 173d
Boo hoo a piece of shit boomer died who failed to hold people in power accountable for breaking the law. Yeah obama you are so classy thanks for all the drone strikes and handouts to corporations im glad you arent controlled oppression for the wealthy elites of america
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 173d
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
Damn, so you go to bat for drunk drivers in the other thread, but this is where you draw the line.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
Yes it's totally Obama we should direct all our ire towards
Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com · -7 pts · 173d
Your ire is worth less than fuck all and does nothing. You literally just said the equivalent of, " thoughts and prayers these kid raping baby eaters stop"
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 173d
Thanks for the tag request