Microsoft Realizes It's Epically Screwed Up Windows 11 as Users Rage at Copilot AI Crammed Everywhere
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-screwed-up-windows-11-copilot
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-screwed-up-windows-11-copilot
62 Comments
Skkorm@lemmy.world · 141 pts · 162d
Installed Mint last night
Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 63 pts · 162d
Congrats! When I first installed Mint it was like being reminded of how computers are supposed to work.
Skkorm@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 161d
Yeah that's how it feels lol I even spitefully replaced Ableton Live with a recording program that is Linux compatible 😆 I will spend money in the name of spite
Supervisor194@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 162d
I've been on it since December. Absolutely love it. Everything about it has been an improvement over the Windows experience, even things (like my OG Vive and VKB/STECS HOTAS) that I was sure were going to be a pain.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 161d
Are you on an Nvidia GPU? That seems like it's been at the heart of many of my Linux problems.
Supervisor194@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 160d
Yep, 5070, no issues so far.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 160d
Good to know, thanks.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 160d
Nice, though cinnamon has its problems with gaming, especially dual monitor mouse capture and full screen stuff and such
If you have problems with this and dont mind wiping your /home (fedora installer [at least a month ago] absolutely hated every other partition type and arrangement except its own) I'd recommend fedora KDE or gnome, whatever suits you best
Even mutable fedora has great update processes with its windows like update envoirment
But again, if youre that fond of btrfs, use opensuse (but don't fill your drive before updating, at least with nvidia drivers it won't check if there's enough space to install and it will break your DE
kuerbiskernoel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 160d
Opensuse :)) great OS
Skkorm@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
I appreciate the tips and recommendations! I enjoying it so far. I think I'll be doing some distro hopping for a while before I move my workflow over fully, so any tips are appreciated.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 161d
Reygle@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 162d
Their Sloppy sloppity slop can slop off and Slopya Nadella can fornicate with himself
Tronn4@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 162d
SlopDella
waz@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 162d
Naslopa
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 162d
I doubt the realization substantively changes their course of action.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 160d
For real. This is PR to stop hemorrhaging users so they can inject more AI crap.
aev_software@programming.dev · 31 pts · 161d
Microsoft realizes things?
Wait, what?
Since when?
Taleya@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 160d
Since enterprise clients started cancelling
Hiro8811@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 161d
Shows how bad they fucked up.
Bieren@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 160d
M365 Copilot told them about it.
rndmdsplyname@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 162d
In light of this here’s how to turn your shitty win11 into a modern win7 with these steps:
Optional 4 (if you have win11 pro or enterprise): Take command by going through all of your group policies in the GP Editor
Optional 5: Tron Script
… And then turn off automatic updates
rndmdsplyname@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 162d
Or just install linux. Preferably one that doesn’t use systemd.
waz@feddit.uk · 51 pts · 162d
Install any distro and ignore the systemd/wayland/x11 debates
forestbeasts@pawb.social · 3 pts · 160d
well, that's great until systemd implements age verification 🙃
(we use openrc on our Debian, you might not have to switch distros depending on which distro you pick, but don't install a totally different init system right out of the gate when you're new, it's a pain to set up (but fine once set up))
(for context: systemd just implemented a field to store birth dates in. Sure, it's optional... for NOW... but considering how fast they rushed to implement it, they'll probably rush to implement whatever surveillance crap any given government comes up with, too. And if we all let systemd get even more deeply entrenched...)
-- Frost
waz@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 160d
I’m surprised at the concerns about systemd adding this field, for most users that install their own systems, they’re usually the admin, so have total control over what that field will hold for any user. 1/1/1970? Who cares?
forestbeasts@pawb.social · 2 pts · 160d
Oh it's not about what the field currently is. I don't think anyone's particularly worried about that
the issue is more about what's to come. It's shown that the systemd people rushed to acquiesce to at least one law like this, who's to say they won't do it the next time it gets a little more invasive? It's not like they had to do this, they're not a distro, they're just a system component. A system component that's been steadily digging deeper and deeper and trying to make itself harder and harder to remove.
(Also, let's let them ban Linux in California and just watch how fast the techbros freak out and lobby to get the law reversed. Just not complying is the better option here.)
It's a trust thing.
JGrffn@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 160d
I'm not running away from most distros because somebody added a date field to a dataset somewhere
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 162d
Good for those who need Microslop compatibility, but seems like more effort than just loading up linux.
rndmdsplyname@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 162d
I’m unfortunately a person who has to deal with kernel level anti cheat due to my preference in games, this was the top level route I took to try medicate my hardware.
grue@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 162d
Re-read what you wrote.
Nobody "has to" play those games. When doing so comes at the cost of property rights and self-respect (let alone the increasing time wasted on workarounds), is it really worth it?
forestbeasts@pawb.social · 3 pts · 160d
Dual booting always exists. (And honestly moving all your other stuff to a separate OS the "anticheat" doesn't know how to touch is probably the best way to keep yourself safe.)
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
I had to quit League of Legends for Linux Mint. Among my gaming friends it's gone from a bit of a joke to being a selling point.
A buddy of mine wanted to install Linux Mint on his desktop, but didn't have a USB drive to put the installer on (Gen-Z I swear). I offered to have one delivered from a local retailer, but it became a "bit" that I didn't care enought to send him a pre-configured drive.
Anyway I loaded up Nyarch on a USB drive and mailed it to him. Also advised him not to install software from a USB drive sent through the mail, even if it is from someone he knows and "trusts."
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 162d
And be skeptical of the programs you use to debloat as it is a known vector to injecting malware.
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 162d
and I don't totally trust the value of setting turned-off updates. MS has demonstrated long ago who they think is the true owner of your computer
rndmdsplyname@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 162d
I recommend blocking all MS at the firewall level, there’s just nothing there for any of us.
rndmdsplyname@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 162d
Absolutely. If you execute a script without reviewing it, you do so at your own risk! But, operating from a mindeet that the win11 debloat and tron scrips haven’t undergone supply chain attack or their creators haven’t gone rogue, these scripts help you deslop
EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 160d
That still requires giving money to Microslop. Never doing that again.
Linux FTW people!
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 14 pts · 160d
“What came through was the voice of people who care deeply about Windows and want it to be better.”
Oh honey, we care deeply about Microsoft going away entirely at this point.
RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 160d
I only care about Windows in the sense that it runs software I use.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 8 pts · 160d
My condolences, I wish you a speedy wine solution or opensource equivalent.
melfie@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 160d
I have expensive software that only works on Windows, so the only thing that I care about is that it won’t get locked down to the point where I can no longer remove all the cruft.
hypockets@thelemmy.club · 0 pts · 160d
That is the correct outlook when it comes to the general public. PC operating systems are a dwindling percentage of OS market share. For most users all they care about is that it works.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 162d
if you must use microslop then theres already a version like that called LTSC.
bibbasa@piefed.social · 10 pts · 160d
just passed my 2 year anneversary of linux
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 8 pts · 160d
Glad I learned Linux 2 years ago.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 160d
Ragebait article. Especially using words like "Epically", "Screwed up", "Rage", and "Crammed Everywhere"
Most users don't care. They didn't even notice the buttons.
And even then, Microsoft understands the backlash from its most vocal users, and reverses their decision. Which is exactly what any good company would do.
Should have just titled the article: "Microsoft reverses decision to incorporate Copilot in their apps after backlash from users."
But that isn't rage inducing enough.
okamiueru@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
I think you're being too kind. A good company should understand their user base and technology better so as to not make something no one wants. The reason they consistently fail at this, is because it's primarily shareholders and investors who are the intended target. Same with the recent DLSS5 slop from NVIDIA. The actual users don't like it. "A good company just needs to reverse their decision" would apply here too, I suppose? Need to keep appearances up. Bubbles all the way
BaraCoded@literature.cafe · 7 pts · 160d
If some windows users are looking for a user-friendly gaming Linux, i'd heavily recommend Bazzite. Great entry point, great ease of use, great support, and a superb app store (Bazaar).
If some of you are tech-savvy, I'd recommend CachyOS. Most popular arch-based distro out there, so great community support, with great video game-oriented optimisations.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 5 pts · 160d
The microslop conundrum:
verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 4 pts · 162d
grandma@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 160d
Too little too late
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 160d
There isn't any AI or other M$ crap in my Windows, always the first things I kicked out. Now it goes blazing fast and stable with less than 700MB RAM (Windows 11), unneeded telemetries blocked with Portmaster.
vithigar@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 160d
You seem to be under the impression that "16.0 GB (15.3 GB usable)" means that Windows is what is taking up the missing 0.7 GB. This is not the case.
Most of that is probably reserved as VRAM for your integrated graphics. None of it is in use by Windows itself.
Windows memory footprint is larger than that, without question.
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 160d
VRam is only integrated with 500 MB in my laptop.
vithigar@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 160d
Which aligns with what I said. 500MB is most of 700MB. The difference is made up of other various hardware reservations.
My completely standard Windows 11 install says 64GB installed and 63.9 GB usable. I can assure you that doesn't mean Windows is only using 100MB.
Go to task manager and look for "Hardware Reserved" at the bottom right of the memory tab. I bet you'll see a number very close to 700MB. Mine says 87MB.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
How do you disable ALL AI in Windows 11? and even so, Windows running "blazing fast and stable" with less than 700 Mb? Sorry bud, I will need some evidence
ICastFist@programming.dev · 1 pts · 160d
Windows X Lite?
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 160d
Something like this, but DIY with Windows 11
Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 160d
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 160d
I don't have nor use any MS apps, so it's easy to have the OS AI free.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 160d
I worked at Microsoft a long time ago.
The OS team used to be powerful. They used to actually give a shit about the OS being useful for the person sitting in front of it.
Now they're being led around by the nose by the ai and cloud teams.
You can't just rebuild that.
Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 160d
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 160d
Pivot also takes time to call out bullshit research papers that tell ai haters what they want to hear.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 160d
Microslop
Get the name right.
hypockets@thelemmy.club · -3 pts · 160d
No, it's whinny fanboys who are complaining. The general public is fine with Windows 11.