'No on-site doctor': Dental student died in ICU overseen by remote 'tele-health' physician who pronounced him dead on a video screen, lawsuit says

This would never happen to people who write the laws so it's not a priority.

It's probably staffed by Nurse Practitioners. They do a lot of stuff that used to be handled by doctors, even my primary care provider is a NP and not a Dr.

The bourgeoisie does not care if the working class dies so long as they are maximizing profits and continuing to expand their ownership.

teledocs, and equity firms have been snatching up doctors all over the place, this hospital is likely part of a firm that does this, they can just staff 1 or few doctors in a hospital, and use teledoc soley.

Why would it not be? Why would that law be enforced if it existed?

And have the yacht-class pay doctors to help the non yacht class?

I'm willing to bet his family can likely win their lawsuit . Hopefully that will be costly enough to reverse this bullshit.

It's like an ongoing slow motion trainwreck and I can't help but stare

It’s a body building and strong man contest.

I almost got detained for bringing Exploding Kittens in my luggage. The game meows when you open the lid, so the device looked really suspicious. And the name on the front didn't help.

Shit fucking game, by the way.

taxes are mostly subsidizing the companies too, and patients never see it being used for them.

It makes me wonder how much can actually be taken from the American people before they'll do something.

Before, it was a necessary cost that could bankrupt someone's livelihood. Now it's pretty much just a Kubla Kraus tax.

This should have been such a straightforward case too.

Mr. Hylton's condition deteriorated in the ICU, and despite orders, there are no CIWA assessments, no intake/output monitoring, and no MD assessments for pain and/or change in mental status despite the RN's non-contemporaneous note indicating mental status change in a patient diagnosed with alcohol withdrawal and a history of alcohol withdrawal seizures for which he had "previously been given Keppra."

Hylton, who was admitted around 11 a.m., became unresponsive early the next morning around 4:30 a.m., the complaint says.

"Mr. Hylton slid down in bed, his eyes rolled back and he … exhibited seizure-like activity, vomited, became bradycardic and code was called," the complaint alleges. "He was intubated, but he could not be resuscitated, and he was pronounced dead."

What the fuck were they even trying to do? Some kind of tough love/cold turkey approach? Honestly wouldn't be surprised bc I've heard a lot of ignorant pieces of shit suggest that should be standard protocol for opiate withdrawal.

Aside from that being intentionally and unnecessarily cruel, there's this tricky thing about alcohol withdrawal vs withdrawal from other "more serious" substances, where you can literally fucking die. That's exactly what happened.

I shudder to think about my surgeon having to deal with a 400ms ping to the fucking robot cutting me open and how badly that could go...

Why would a hospital pay a US physician 200K a year when they can get a doctor from Pakistan to do the same work for 50K a year?

Liability to the hospital if a remote doctor fucks up? Just for starters.

It's also very difficult to manage remote workers. As a result, that $50k Pakistani doctor needs another $50k Pakistani contract manager and a Pakistani HR manager and a nurse who can communicate fluently with both patient and doctor and software that an IT firm needs to maintain and a lawyer to sort out all the messy details of licensing and practice.

At the end of the day, it isn't nearly the cost savings you're promised.

Every outsourcing gambit plays out this way. Which makes it more of a negotiating ploy against local workers. Threatening to outsource is far more profitable than actual outsourcing.

I think now as things advance with AI and the US government is completely corrupt/dysfunctional some company is going to make a med bed with an array of sensors and AI.

One of the oligarchs will bless us with this technology and they will get a shit ton of money from the government, so long as the big guy gets his cut.

If tele-healthcare was the same as in person then no one would need to go to a doctor, much less fly anywhere

People get travel warnings about american "healthcare".

They do?

The rich fly here to get the good stuff that not for plebys.

RNs can get the vitals that allows a pronouncement. I do it regularly for hospice folks and it certainly ain't my name on the death certificate. Having an RN verify vitals for an active code is a bit weird though. But so is running a code through telehealth.

Paramedics (at least in NJ) aren't allowed to pronounce, but they're what's called online care (maybe, it's online something), and so they feed vitals to a doc over the phone, and the doc says okay call it.

Just look at the guy over zoom, i guess we have set the bar pretty low.

So you got the platinum special. I got injected with some unknown disease and tagged for scientific research at a later date for $1,000 after insurance.

We already pay enough taxes to cover universal healthcare.

It's just not spent on that.

Their insurance is better than yours they won't suffer this until it doesn't matter much and their vote doesn't really count anymore.

This is Boring Dystopia. What will instead happen is everyone will shrug, just like when we let a bunch of boomers die from COVID, and then blame the Democrats somehow.

Boomers no longer have the majority voting power. You can stop this any time.

What does "peeling this guy off the ceiling" mean in this context?

While you were dicking around, he was studying the tooth!