How the heck do the YouTubers I watch sustain themselves on $330 / million? That seems really unsustainable when they only very rarely break 5 million.
Sponsorship can easily get you a good 4 digit deal per video. Even for small-ish creators. 5 digits if you regularly get million plus views
Patreon is the other big one
Fun fact: yt premium views pay orders of magnitude more per view. In a world where a large percentage of viewers have premium, there would be almost no incentive for most small and medium sized channels to have sponsors in videos
yt premium views pay orders of magnitude more per view.
This is a large part of why YT Premium is a no brainer for me.
I support creators more without having to do anything myself more than just the same watching I would do anyway.
I don't have to bother with ad blockers, I still do, but I don't need to. I don't have ads when watching from different places either like mobile or TV which are more difficult to block ads than just a browser extension.
It includes YouTube Music, so I don't have to pay for music streaming separately. Was able to cancel my Spotify and save that money, which pays for the majority of YouTube Premium.
So for basically $3 more than I paid for Spotify, I get ad-free Youtube.
I actually had no idea that creators made more money from Premium views. It was already a sub I'm happy to pay for because of how it benefits ME, good to know they benefit as well.
Yeah I remember a couple years ago Linus Tech Tips did a breakdown of their income for transparency and education. That's where I first had a creator directly mention that difference. It's something like 5x the revenue per view.
In addition to what others have said, the value per million views changes depending on how profitable your audience is. Education is notoriously low, something like makeup is much higher.
For a lot of creators it may not even be about the money they earn directly from it. I have a small educational YouTube channel. It brings in about 20 bucks per month in ad revenue, more in the past when I was more active. But really it's a nice feather in my cap and something neat on my resume. A modest YouTube channel won't pay enough by itself to make the effort worthwhile. But if that channel gets you over the top on a new high paying job? Then it's worth it. In this context, a YouTube channel functions as a kind of personal brand/promotional material.
they have brand deals, promotions, sponsors and patreon. a asian ones i used to followed had to use these to stay alive they barely make 2million views per video. youtube does all sorts of stuff to your algorithim which can exclude you from reach other peoples feeds or not all. the big ones certain are using these+ they are already wealthy and expands to have thier own company which contributes more.
some are quite small and only upload occasionally and dont sustain themselves on youtube at all, mostly the ones about sciences as many of them are burgeoning scientists, going to school,,,etc.
Not everyone earns the same amount of money per view. If you're making niche content for more wealthy individuals, you'll get more per view, from what I recall
I have never understood this impulse to censor content which is publicly available. Like she wrote that and put it on the internet under her name, presumably she's all right about people knowing about it.
If you want to do it in an entertaining or educative way, someone will probably like watching it. Most channels never pay back the cam. But if it's a hobby you like doing, that's fine.
Honestly, if anyone were to compete with YouTube and not be trying to rub their fanny all over the government for good boy points...
I'm pretty sure that's why it's illegal in red states.
Shit maybe that's what all these data centers are actually for. Make a billion fake ai Instagram people and flood the US Internet to help shape the narrative. You'd obviously want to funnel views toward your buddies and away from anything unpredictable.
I really think the data centers are to power the already installed surveillence tools like Flock and web trackers/personal device telemetry, but that certainly could be a part of it.
This. Don't ever fuck over a person. But fuck over corporations and institutions as much as you desire. For the purposes of these instructions I don't consider billionaires to be people
I mean, yes YouTube is greedy, but a big part of that is pronhub allowing very predatory ads, from scams and chatbots and straight up malware companies, who are willing to pay more
YouTube absolutely shows ads that are predatory, scams, malware, and chatbot adjacent... literally the only difference is whether an erect dick is visible and tbh I'm not fully convinced YT hasn't let porn ads through.
The HS I went to went completely different route.
Online games? Blocked.
Social media? Blocked.
Forums like stack exchange? Blocked.
Wireguard? Admin noticed me heavily using it, blocked.
Porn? Absolutely available.
I mean, that's besides the point. Most people go to porn hub for less mathsy videos.
Plus, it's extra money for just putting the already made video there
Ah yes ... the Ticketmaster marketing platform ... get other people to create, maintain and pay for the venue, become the middle man and make audiences pay you to see the performers.
Sorry for the confusion ... but I was referring to Pornhub and Youtube ... both platforms that do nothing but host yet receive all or most of the revenue for all the activity, performances and creativity of everyone who posts anything on those platforms. They are both like Ticketmaster, they do very little for anyone in the equation, they don't create, they don't perform, they don't provide support, they just guide audiences to the performance, yet receive the majority of the benefit of the transaction.
You're not wrong, but also you kinda ignore how capital intensive it is to run a video hosting platform. That shit is hard to do at scale and it takes many nerds with expensive salaries. Doesn't mean they should get to control the revenue sharing though. Ticketmaster is just a scam.
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Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 151 pts · 145d
The moral of the story is: Watch PornHub videos instead of YouTube videos to do your part to support content creators.
Gnugit@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 145d
How to fake age verification without VPN? Asking for a friend.
echodot@feddit.uk · 17 pts · 145d
Firefox has a built-in VPN. Presumably for this exact situation.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 145d
Proton free tier works for bypassing uk age verification. ...So i am told by a friend....
ollie@pawb.social · 7 pts · 145d
i think we should riseup ;) against this age verification crap
Uri@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 145d
TOR exists
incompetent@programming.dev · 4 pts · 145d
Streaming over Tor? Isn't it too slow?
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 1 pts · 145d
Nah, at least in central europe
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · -5 pts · 145d
click yes? or move?
TheYojimbo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
In some countries now you need to give your ID to access most adults websites.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 145d
Might be time to move or overthrow your clearly oppressive situation. (But really I highly doubt its that hard to get around)
TheYojimbo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
yeah not really hard to get around with a vpn but the user was specifically saying without one.
As for overthrowing gouvernement, as a french, we have an habit of doing that, but it's not enough of a pain I guess
urheber@discuss.tchncs.de · -19 pts · 145d
And then everyone stood up and clapped. LOLLLLLLL sure thing bozo
TheYojimbo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 145d
You ok ?
urheber@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 145d
No :(
TheYojimbo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 145d
Hope you get better soon
mkwt@lemmy.world · 122 pts · 145d
How the heck do the YouTubers I watch sustain themselves on $330 / million? That seems really unsustainable when they only very rarely break 5 million.
DarkSirrush@piefed.ca · 145 pts · 145d
Many, many videos, patreon, streaming, sponsors, etc.
inari@piefed.zip · 84 pts · 145d
and merch
iamthetot@piefed.ca · 37 pts · 145d
My very uneducated understanding is merch is the most profitable avenue for many Youtubers.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 145d
Youtubers are the new touring musician, it seems.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 145d
That and sponsorships
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 67 pts · 145d
That's why they always tell you to SMASH that like and subscribe button
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 145d
Hulkscriber SMASH!
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 145d
Your name makes me thing of a giant sentient noodle flying through space and devouring the corpses of the innocent
Zorque@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 145d
Ramen.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 145d
That means the drugs are working.
rain_worl@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 140d
flying spaghetti monster: yup, that's me!
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 41 pts · 145d
Sponsorship can easily get you a good 4 digit deal per video. Even for small-ish creators. 5 digits if you regularly get million plus views
Patreon is the other big one
Fun fact: yt premium views pay orders of magnitude more per view. In a world where a large percentage of viewers have premium, there would be almost no incentive for most small and medium sized channels to have sponsors in videos
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 12 pts · 145d
This is a large part of why YT Premium is a no brainer for me.
I support creators more without having to do anything myself more than just the same watching I would do anyway.
I don't have to bother with ad blockers, I still do, but I don't need to. I don't have ads when watching from different places either like mobile or TV which are more difficult to block ads than just a browser extension.
It includes YouTube Music, so I don't have to pay for music streaming separately. Was able to cancel my Spotify and save that money, which pays for the majority of YouTube Premium.
So for basically $3 more than I paid for Spotify, I get ad-free Youtube.
BruisedMoose@piefed.social · 2 pts · 145d
I actually had no idea that creators made more money from Premium views. It was already a sub I'm happy to pay for because of how it benefits ME, good to know they benefit as well.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 3 pts · 145d
Yeah I remember a couple years ago Linus Tech Tips did a breakdown of their income for transparency and education. That's where I first had a creator directly mention that difference. It's something like 5x the revenue per view.
saigot@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 145d
In addition to what others have said, the value per million views changes depending on how profitable your audience is. Education is notoriously low, something like makeup is much higher.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 145d
Marketable=monies. Can’t easily market education, which removes avenue A. That’s why there are only like 4 advertisers for education channels.
certified_expert@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
That is so interesting
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 145d
For a lot of creators it may not even be about the money they earn directly from it. I have a small educational YouTube channel. It brings in about 20 bucks per month in ad revenue, more in the past when I was more active. But really it's a nice feather in my cap and something neat on my resume. A modest YouTube channel won't pay enough by itself to make the effort worthwhile. But if that channel gets you over the top on a new high paying job? Then it's worth it. In this context, a YouTube channel functions as a kind of personal brand/promotional material.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 145d
BassTurd@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 145d
A lot of content creators post on multiple platforms as well, other than PH that is.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 145d
they have brand deals, promotions, sponsors and patreon. a asian ones i used to followed had to use these to stay alive they barely make 2million views per video. youtube does all sorts of stuff to your algorithim which can exclude you from reach other peoples feeds or not all. the big ones certain are using these+ they are already wealthy and expands to have thier own company which contributes more.
some are quite small and only upload occasionally and dont sustain themselves on youtube at all, mostly the ones about sciences as many of them are burgeoning scientists, going to school,,,etc.
BigBenis@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 145d
Sponsors will pay 5 figures for a 30-second promotional segment of the video.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 145d
Nebula, Patreon, merch…
cornshark@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 145d
Didn't you read the article? They cross post their videos to pornhub.
four@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 145d
Not everyone earns the same amount of money per view. If you're making niche content for more wealthy individuals, you'll get more per view, from what I recall
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
They sell their bath water
Mac@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 145d
EndOfLine@lemmy.world · 109 pts · 145d
They censor her name from the post, but not the screenshots?
echodot@feddit.uk · 38 pts · 145d
I have never understood this impulse to censor content which is publicly available. Like she wrote that and put it on the internet under her name, presumably she's all right about people knowing about it.
BurnedDonutHole@ani.social · 24 pts · 145d
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 145d
It's LinkedIn, they aren't the sharpest tools in the shed
BruisedMoose@piefed.social · 10 pts · 145d
Tries to obfuscate the name of the content creator who would literally profit from more people being able to find her. Nice.
trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 145d
malloc@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 145d
I’m not jorking it. I’m studying, bro
frunch@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 145d
mr_account@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 145d
You can do both! Learn how to dual-weild
BlameTheAntifa@piefed.social · 67 pts · 145d
Does anyone think there is a PornHub market for a fully dressed old lady who paints Warhammer?
Evotech@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 145d
Might need to take your socks off
Landless2029@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 145d
Just get a banger microphone and whisper while you paint. Throw in some sexual ennuendos here and there.
"Oh stay still like a good little boy while I get you ready."
"Hmm you're all wet here (with paint). Not sure if it's ready for more."
👀🤣
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 145d
Yes
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
You never know if you don't try. What do you have to lose?
Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
If you want to do it in an entertaining or educative way, someone will probably like watching it. Most channels never pay back the cam. But if it's a hobby you like doing, that's fine.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 145d
Depends on what she draws.
sudo@programming.dev · 41 pts · 145d
Still making 10x more on youtube, $32.81 vs $333.54
turdas@suppo.fi · 36 pts · 145d
With one simple trick she could make 10x more on PornHub, but this would reduce the YouTube income to $0.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 37 pts · 145d
Wait. STEM vids on PornHub?
Carnelian@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 145d
Semen, titties, erections and mathematics!
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 145d
Rules to live by
Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
Yeah, hot teachers are pretty much a mainstream fetish. And some students probably come for porn but stay for the lessons.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 145d
Honestly, if anyone were to compete with YouTube and not be trying to rub their fanny all over the government for good boy points...
I'm pretty sure that's why it's illegal in red states.
Shit maybe that's what all these data centers are actually for. Make a billion fake ai Instagram people and flood the US Internet to help shape the narrative. You'd obviously want to funnel views toward your buddies and away from anything unpredictable.
maturelemontree@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 145d
I really think the data centers are to power the already installed surveillence tools like Flock and web trackers/personal device telemetry, but that certainly could be a part of it.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 145d
True that. Also, all metadata on all Americans for the past twenty years.
Honestly, a year of ice leading up to the elections with full AI™️
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 145d
Good thing they covered her name at the top, wouldn't want to have it in too many places on the image...
potustheplant@feddit.nl · 24 pts · 145d
I've seen this reposted for years now.
velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 145d
Amyl and The Sniffers - Capital immediately came to mind.
It's hard to survive in late stage capitalism. Might as well exploit it.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 25 pts · 145d
This. Don't ever fuck over a person. But fuck over corporations and institutions as much as you desire. For the purposes of these instructions I don't consider billionaires to be people
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 145d
Oh, I do! 🏴☠️
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 145d
Gotta love amyl and the sniffers
gmtom@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 145d
I mean, yes YouTube is greedy, but a big part of that is pronhub allowing very predatory ads, from scams and chatbots and straight up malware companies, who are willing to pay more
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 42 pts · 145d
YouTube absolutely shows ads that are predatory, scams, malware, and chatbot adjacent... literally the only difference is whether an erect dick is visible and tbh I'm not fully convinced YT hasn't let porn ads through.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 145d
Wasn't there like straight up Minecraft character porn on YouTube? For like, a not insignificant amount of time.
gmtom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
Most ads I see on YouTube are like meal prep companies, IT services and random brands.
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 145d
youtube (google) is known for targeted ads so it is expected that you will have a different ad experience
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 145d
and Ofc they are owned by a private equity firm. (i mean by design this type of company is supposed to make a company very valuable and sell it off)
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 145d
pornhub.com is probably on every ban list since it has been in existence. She’s missing a lot of her intended audience.
bus_factor@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 145d
She's on YouTube, too.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 145d
That's why she also puts them on YouTube.
testaccount789@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 145d
The HS I went to went completely different route.
Online games? Blocked.
Social media? Blocked.
Forums like stack exchange? Blocked.
Wireguard? Admin noticed me heavily using it, blocked.
Porn? Absolutely available.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 145d
I see no ads on pornhub.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 145d
Her ads are up here...
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 145d
adblock is working!
Stern@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 145d
32k PH views vs. 981k YT views.
Rough math on that is 32 dollars vs. ~339 dollars. So uhh... okay.
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
I mean, that's besides the point. Most people go to porn hub for less mathsy videos. Plus, it's extra money for just putting the already made video there
Stern@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
By all means, go get that paycheck, that asterisk is doing some seriously heavy lifting though.
Mubelotix@jlai.lu · 9 pts · 145d
I don't know about PH but youtube is around 2000$ per million
LwL@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 145d
Yt adrev highly varies based on type of content
trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 145d
Thought you switched to a Slavic language for a moment there...
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 145d
Ah yes ... the Ticketmaster marketing platform ... get other people to create, maintain and pay for the venue, become the middle man and make audiences pay you to see the performers.
velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 145d
Doesn’t quite match up since she is the performer here as well.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 145d
Sorry for the confusion ... but I was referring to Pornhub and Youtube ... both platforms that do nothing but host yet receive all or most of the revenue for all the activity, performances and creativity of everyone who posts anything on those platforms. They are both like Ticketmaster, they do very little for anyone in the equation, they don't create, they don't perform, they don't provide support, they just guide audiences to the performance, yet receive the majority of the benefit of the transaction.
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 145d
You're not wrong, but also you kinda ignore how capital intensive it is to run a video hosting platform. That shit is hard to do at scale and it takes many nerds with expensive salaries. Doesn't mean they should get to control the revenue sharing though. Ticketmaster is just a scam.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 145d
Wasn’t it $1,100 from YouTube like a decade ago?
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
It varies depending on the type of content, where your viewers reside, etc.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 145d
I thought pornhub banned individual creators. Huh
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 145d
Just unverified ones IIRC.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 145d
i mean people posted CoD gameplay on Pornhub before.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 145d
Would
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -11 pts · 145d
get that human trafficking money queen