c/nottheonion · by Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 103d

Trump has a better understanding of the Bible than Pope Leo, says conservative Christian pastor

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-robert-jeffress-bible-pope-b2973812.html

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/46667720

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D_C@sh.itjust.works · 93 pts · 103d (1 reply)

That fat child raping cunt doesn't understand not to shit itself on camera at the Whitehouse.
Fuck off, Pastor Shitface. Fuck off and die.

Zahille7@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 103d

In the words of Mr. Hat: "you can go to hell! You can go to hell and you can die!"

azimir@lemmy.ml · 74 pts · 103d (5 replies)

The cult must cult.

devolution@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 103d (4 replies)

No. It's just non believers being cynical and power hungry as usual. If you believe in god, hell is waiting for them. That's literally the ONLY thing that keeps me having any kind of faith these days.

Mika@piefed.ca · 14 pts · 103d (2 replies)

I think he means maga cult?

devolution@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d (1 reply)

Cultists believe their shit. These grifters are pure evil leeches.

azimir@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 101d

One variation of the definition goes:

"In a cult, the guy at the top knows it's a con. In a religion that guy is dead."

ferrule@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 102d

Oof, I take it you've never really done an educated deep dive into the Bible then. Both Old and New Testaments demonstrate a very imoral monster at the helm who promotes injustice left and right. If anything, Trump isn't far off with his horrible treatment of women and minorities.

I think what people end up doing is just assuming "chistian" is a synonym for "good" when the foundation of the religion is many of the evils we got rid of in the last hundred years.

Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 51 pts · 103d (5 replies)

Sure. Leo thinks it's a guide for morals and good living. Trump understands it's a grift to let old warmongering men stay in charge.

NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 103d (1 reply)

Are you sure? Sometimes I think Trump goes in and out of lucidity these days.his word salads have been getting worse.

Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 8 pts · 103d

If there's one thing that man will go to his grave knowing, it's how to work a scam. He may not be able to execute it, but he'll recognize it long after he stops being able to recognize animals or draw a clock..

brad_troika@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 102d (2 replies)

When the fuck did the leader of the largest pedophile sheltering organization become the good guy?

Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 102d

Institutional evil vs. personal evil. Neither one is a good guy, but at least we can avoid Catholics.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 101d

It took me way too long to figure out you meant the pope.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 103d (2 replies)

Dallas-area megachurch pastor

Well there's your problem. These guys know as much about the Bible as Trump.

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 103d

They also know as much about grifting.

AA5B@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 102d

Once you put “mega” in there, is there such a thing as a legitimate “pastor/priest”?

RedWeasel@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 103d

LOL

100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 31 pts · 102d (1 reply)

Jeffress, a Dallas-area megachurch pastor

Nothing farther from faith than such people

limelight79@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 102d

Supply-side Jesus worshipper.

itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 102d (5 replies)

As I suspected, conservative Christians in the US are not real Christians, but rather “money for faith” type people. Their supreme authority is money. Nothing to do with christianity or Jesus or faith.

mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 102d (2 replies)

Trust me, a lot of these conservative Christians absolutely do believe in Jesus and absolutely do believe in God. And to be honest, I wish that people wouldn't try to call them something other than Christians. Because they are Christians. We don't need to preserve the sanctity of that term for only good moral upstanding people. It's just not fair or reasonable to say that only these really excellent people are real Christians and everyone else isn't really a Christian. All that does is reinforce the term as something that conveys goodness and morality. If 95% of the people out there who are calling themselves Christians and who go to Christian churches and who read Christian Bibles act in a certain way, then sorry, that's what Christians are, that's what Christianity is.

limelight79@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 102d

Or, to put it more simply: Christians overwhelmingly voted for Trump.

Not all of them, definitely, but a huge percentage did.

That's what they are.

NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 101d

I think it’s that this type of Christian believes so wholeheartedly in Jesus’ forgiveness that they assume it means they can do anything they like and claim repentance afterwards

AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 102d (1 reply)

I've been saying for a while that they really ought to be called something other than Christians. Maybe "crooks" is a bit too much on the nose, but some new name is definitely required.

pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 102d

Camels.

For it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to gain entrance into heaven...

They worship wealth, they claim to follow these teachings and to know them well, and they expect to enter heaven? Then they are camels, lining up for the eyes of needles and expecting easy passage.

EDIT: Wait, wait.

Scamels.

FanciestPants@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 103d

"Bible" is such a weird way to spell Epstein files.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 102d (3 replies)

Yeah American evangelicals don't think any Catholics understand the Bible.

phx@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 102d (2 replies)

That's because they follow the Capitalist Bible

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 101d

Partly, but also because they're chauvinistic about their religion and think Catholics aren't Christian. Even at their best they practice sola scriptura and disagree with Catholics on interpretation, therefore they assume Catholics don't actually understand the bible. Meanwhile Catholics look at them confused as to how anyone can read that thing, reject all context snd traditional interpretation, and come away believing every word is literally true and that they have an unerring understanding of it, much less without the graduate degree in the topic priests need.

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 101d

Praise Supply Side Jesus!

jqubed@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 103d

I’m not surprised to see a conservative Baptist minister not missing a chance to take a swipe at Catholicism

auzy1@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 101d (1 reply)

This guy is definitely in the Epstein files.. probably a supplier..

ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 101d

Megachurch pastor? Don't do him dirty like that. He likely also a diddler as well.

badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 102d

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starik@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 103d (2 replies)

Perhaps Trump has a better understanding of American Christians than the Pope does.

danciestlobster@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 102d (1 reply)

"christians"

starik@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 102d

Most of the Christians I’ve met are that type of Christian, so I don’t buy the “no true Christian” thing. They own this. Christian = MAGA, at least in this country.

signor@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 103d

He means the guy that said two corinthians?

melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 102d (1 reply)

A Christian pastor who shills and grifts? I don't think that's ever been done before. /s

jasoman@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 102d

All pastors are like this just most don't know it yet.

uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 103d (4 replies)

That bible experts cannot agree on what the bible means, and which of its doctrine is important, makes for a strong argument that it is a historical document, neither inspired, nor univocal, nor inerrant.

If it were divine, then its meaning would be clear beyond debate.

In other words, it's just a bunch of mythology invented by dudes in the bronze age, and nothing more.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 103d

it's just a bunch of mythology invented by dudes in the bronze age

olafurp@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 102d

Yeah, this is why in a way Catholicism and Orthodox makes more sense where you have an ultimate authority chosen by god to update Christianity. Has its own issues though like the time when the pope issued purgatory skip papers for money to fund pet projects.

azimir@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 102d

it’s just a bunch of mythology invented by dudes in the bronze age, and nothing more

Also known as "The Sheepherder's Guide to the Galaxy".

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 102d

Hey now let's be fair here, most of it is iron age. Up until the Assyrians it's probably describing mythology and legend that takes place from roughly the stone age, chalcolithic, and bronze age.

smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 103d (3 replies)

Netanyahu is a master chef with bacon too.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 103d (2 replies)

I mean... with all the hypocrisy... he probably is

smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 103d (1 reply)

Secretly owns a chain called Bibi Burger, famous for bacon cheeseburgers.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d

Should probably rename it to "Five Guys Who I Let Have My Daughters"

formergijoe@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 103d (1 reply)

Every Bible passage is his favorite. Like the story of Lot and his daughters.

Forester@pawb.social · 5 pts · 103d

It would be a first time experience for him where he's not the rapist.

unphazed@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 102d

Well. If you attempt to read it upside down it just invokes Satan and the Antichrist... /s.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 101d (3 replies)

Is that brown lipstick he's wearing?

saimen@feddit.org · 7 pts · 101d (2 replies)

That's just from the shit he's talking

Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d

Or the saggy orange arse he's been kissing.

buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 101d

No it's the same shade that every one of these "Christian leaders" is wearing these days. It comes from them trying to lick Trump's asshole.

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 103d

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

krigo666@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 103d

One idiot propping up another idiot.

lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 103d

All those fucking fundies.

They became the very thing they hate.

notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 103d (2 replies)

In nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti, amen.

orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 103d

Speak American like Jesus did. None of that layten stuff. That's gay roman sheeit.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 103d

For thee, Lord, for thee.

bagsy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 103d

This pastor clearly doesn't believe in heaven and hell, or he would lie in support of the literal anti-christ.

CptHacke@piefed.social · 6 pts · 103d (1 reply)

I'm guessing that the 'pastor' has some pretty heavy callouses on his knees that aren't from praying.

yuknowhokat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d

And possibly some very pronounced muscles in his lower face.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 102d

And who cares what this nobody says?
Should this be an item in even a garbage UK outlet, or worse Lemmy?

elucubra@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 101d

Bigly!

Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 101d

no he doesnt. he listens to his sick-minded "preacher" who also misinterprets the scriptures he cherry picks

moondoggie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 103d (2 replies)

Of course he knows more about the Bible - how many has this Leo guy even eaten? Can’t be half as many as Trump.

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 103d (1 reply)

Wasn’t he selling Trump Bibles for a while? I don’t see any Pope Bibles for sale.

moondoggie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 102d

EXACTLY! The Bible the pope uses probably doesn’t even have the Constitution in it! What a poser.

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 102d

The trump bible is like all the folders full of “plans” he presented to the press. Official looking covers with nothing but empty pages between them.

Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 103d

Well, he could be right. Not something people who believe in religion want to hear however religion's purpose is to control the masses and Trump and his ilk are all about controlling the masses. God is just the manipulating tool.

unabart@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 103d

Sounds like someone wants an invite to wherever they moved Epstein Island to!

SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 103d

I thought plumbing was in his DNA. It must be getting pretty crowded in there.

Malyca@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 101d

I suppose that's why he held it upside down after his fascist photo op in front of that church?

SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 101d

American Christianity is fascism with even worse music. That's what Pussolini understands.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d (1 reply)

Said every "good Christian"

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 102d

Is that like a True Scotsman?