Masturbation among birds is ‘natural’ and should not be punished, say experts

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/jun/01/masturbation-birds-natural-healthy-behaviour-study

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flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz · 135 pts · 93d (13 replies)

Who was punishing birds for masturbating in the first place? Why!?

meejle@piefed.world · 79 pts · 93d (5 replies)

Researchers historically tended to assume birds either did not masturbate or did so only under the stress of captivity ... Accounts from hobbyists revealed that some owners had sought veterinary help when they caught their birds masturbating, fearing the animals might hurt themselves.

Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf · 39 pts · 93d

This explains all the bird watchers.

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 92d (3 replies)

I would have just assumed they were preening...

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 92d

Tomato, tomato.

Soggy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 92d (1 reply)

Pretty big difference between preening and rubbing their cloaca on stuff. Ever had a budgie try and fuck your hand?

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 92d

No, that's never happened to me. Got humped by a lot of dogs as a kid though. I thought they were just hugging me so I was confused when the adults yelled at them...

Solumbran@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 93d (4 replies)

People are HORRIBLE with birds. Even the ones that pretend to love them treat them like trash.

And then there's the fuckers that think that their views of the world matters more than anything else, and will punish masturbation because animals don't feel pleasure so it shouldn't be allowed, will punish them for having gay couples because gay shouldn't exist and especially not in animals (else how can you say your main homophobic argument of "gay is unnatural, only degenerate humans do it"), will starve them for "training" purposes, and don't get me started on the diets, environment safety and cage sizes.

There's a reason why the life expectancy of birds doesn't increase in captivity. People are really, really horrible with birds, and the more I read about people who "care" about birds the worse I feel for their birds.

mirshafie@europe.pub · 5 pts · 92d (3 replies)

Being gay is unnatural, that's why you never saw a gay goat!

Actually, goats are unnatural. But you never saw a gay frog!

Actually, that's Big Pharma making the frogs gay. But you never saw a gay bird!

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 92d (2 replies)

Gay isn't something one can see.

Claidheamh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 92d

My browsing history disagrees.

aarch0x40@piefed.social · 2 pts · 92d

I respectfully disagree. I do have this thing installed called “Gaydar”™️ though. Sometimes gets mixed signals if there’s a gay weather balloon near by.

CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 24 pts · 93d (1 reply)

“folk husbandry often advises bird keepers to discourage or punish this behaviour, sometimes even resorting to surgery and hormonal interventions,”

flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz · 36 pts · 93d

TIL there's a cottage industry of preventing bird mastrubation

irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 116 pts · 93d (5 replies)

Til that people are punishing birds for masturbating

vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works · 60 pts · 93d (2 replies)

American Christianity punishes all ideas of enjoying sex, even among animals.

Viceversa@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 93d (1 reply)

But not between priests and altar boys, it seems

vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 93d

To be fair that's just Catholicism and not American Christianity ™®©.

Don't get me wrong, American Christianity ™®© has its share of pedophiles, possibly even more than catholicism, however it's usually straight because they just believe younger girls are more fertile.

Avicenna@programming.dev · 14 pts · 93d

humans never cease to amaze don't they

frightful5680@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 92d

My mind blown

weimaraner_of_doom@piefed.social · 61 pts · 93d (2 replies)

An investigation into acts of self-pleasure among parrots and other birds has reached a climax, with the results providing welcome relief for vets and researchers, not to mention the birds themselves.

Asked if they showed any signs of self-loathing or Catholic guilt, Heys thought not. “I don’t want to say satisfied, but they do look different after they finish. It’s obviously doing something for them.”

Someone was having a little too much fun with this article.

Gust@piefed.social · 10 pts · 93d

Sounds like the birds were still having more fun

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 92d

Orgasms feel good, more news at 11.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 55 pts · 93d (6 replies)

A bird wrote this

PS: Article delivers

An investigation into acts of self-pleasure among parrots and other birds has reached a climax

Typically, males would be “rubbing quite vigorously” on their perch, a toy or a twig, or on their owner’s hand, foot or shoulder

Freaky ass birds.

Hold up. If a bird is bonded to you, and it does it, does it even count as baitin'? Sounds more like it's trying to mate with its mate. Or is bird-jacking fundamentally different? Bird experts... pitch in.

Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 93d (4 replies)
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yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 92d (3 replies)

Can you explain why a bird bonded to you from early childhood would also be sexually attracted to you? To humans in general I could understand but why to you, the "parent"? Are birds less opposed to incest?

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 92d (1 reply)

There's a difference between incest and inbreeding. Opposition to incest, that is sex for pleasure among family members, is a moral position, and apparently unique to humans.

Inbreeding, sex for reproduction, is blocked on a biological level more strongly in some species than others, but it still happens, of course.

In humans, and perhaps other species, there is sometimes sexual disinterest in closely related family members, but this is not "opposition to incest", and certainly is not universal.

yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 92d

Well yeah, inbreeding is what I meant. Didn't actually know there was a difference.

Still, I've read that many animals prefer not to fuck/breed with relatives. Except some pigeons in cities apparently, they prefer their relatives if Wikipedia and my memory of that article is to be believed.

Better phrasing would've probably been "Lack of sexual interest in family".

Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 92d
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YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 93d

Not an expert, but I've witnessed something like this. Step mom turned into a strange bird person for her midlife crisis, got an African grey that absolutely hates all females including her, but loves all dude. It dude puff up and squat on your shoulder, but it wouldn't rub anything. Maybe it's different for male birds.

Malyca@lemmy.zip · 45 pts · 93d (4 replies)

I'm sorry people are out trying to punish birds?

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 93d

A seagull stole my chip. Are you suggesting I just Let That Go?

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 93d

Look, man, I wasn't punishing them I just didn't have anything to feed them but cornflakes. I am not John Kellogg; I didn't think that shit actually would stop anyone masturbating. 🤷‍♂️

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 93d

Some of them insist upon it, even if you've never SEEN a fucking flog, much less wielded one against a partner.

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 92d

Apparently birdkeepers are, yeah.

webp@mander.xyz · 24 pts · 92d (2 replies)

Who would punish them? 😭

nexguy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 92d

Bird Jesus looks down on them all.

tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 92d

BirDSM

betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 93d (2 replies)

Perfect timing, I'll have to print out a copy of this article for the court as part of my defense in an upcoming case where it's relevant.

luthis@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 93d (1 reply)

Oh no, another expert in Bird Law

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 93d

In bird culture, this is considered a cloacal move.

gedfromgont@piefed.ca · 23 pts · 93d (2 replies)

If you’ve ever seen a bird masturbate, you absolutely know what that bird is doing.

Hilarious statement. So if I have never seen a bird masturbate, I would not know what the bird is doing? Wow.

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 92d

As someone who's never seen a bird masturbate, I assumed it would look like preening. This sentence clarified that it would not look similar.

stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 92d

That's a fallacy: P -> Q does not imply !P -> !Q

However, it does imply !Q -> !P: if you don't know what a bird is doing, you've never seen a bird masturbate.

Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 92d (2 replies)

I dont care if it's natural. im not removing the "no masturbating" sign from our bird feeder.

SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 92d

I agree. Gotta keep the "bird seed" out of the bird seed.

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 92d

damn it, i was going to drop around for a session!

quinacridone@mander.xyz · 19 pts · 93d

I used to have budgies, one of the males used to chat up his (male) friend whilst perched on my head... and then he'd start grinding away while still on my head

Fortunately he never left a deposit

Freaky little (head) fucker

cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 92d

efforts to intervene, which range from removing perches to hormone treatment and surgery

wtf :(

Rivalarrival@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 93d (7 replies)

I believe the politically correct term is "Women". They tend to bitch a lot when you call them "birds".

pastermil@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 93d (5 replies)

I still do it the old-fashioned way and call them "chicks".

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 93d (4 replies)

Oh dude broads hate it when you call 'em chicks

pastermil@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 93d

What a bunch of cucks.

MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 92d (2 replies)

"Dude broads"

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 92d (1 reply)

i don't ask where you go after 5 pm. i expect the same respect.

myrrh@ttrpg.network · 2 pts · 92d
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Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 92d

No wonder that's a more common behavior in wild birds.

M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 93d

Sounds like a good candidate for an Ig Nobel Price.

Mr_Wobble@thelemmy.club · 11 pts · 92d
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flightyhobler@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 92d (1 reply)

Funny how they picked the most pervert-looking bird for the article photo.

obvs@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 92d

What do you mean? That bird looks just like the President.

baggachipz@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 93d (3 replies)

Polly want a whacker?

PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space · 6 pts · 93d (2 replies)

Gonzako@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 92d (1 reply)

I dont get it mate. Mind explaining?

animephantasm@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 92d

Its lyrics to Polly by Nirvana https://genius.com/Nirvana-polly-lyrics

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 92d

Birdkeepers punish birds? That's a new thought lol

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 92d

Then why do I keep getting punished every time I masturbate among birds?

Gonzako@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 92d

My masturbation ain't natural and mommy should punish me for it

mechoman444@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 92d (1 reply)

Who the fuck is researching this and what is the process of their information gathering?

Just a bunch of scientists sitting around watching birds goon all day going "ya, this seems perfectly natural!"

MBech@feddit.dk · -5 pts · 92d

More importantly, why should I give a shit about the findings and opinions of some seriously disturbed perverts?!?

No1@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 93d

Let the little birdies just Beat it!

aesthelete@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 92d

Just wait until the GOP (grand old parrots) learn about this.

I'll see myself out.

BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 92d (3 replies)

Why would anyone punish birds for jacking off?

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 92d (1 reply)

you've not met conservative Christians ?

BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 91d

I did but not in US or UK

Psythik@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 91d

Cause I'm afraid that they'll get an infection from rubbing their junk on the same stick the poop in. If they made sex toys for cockatiels I'd buy them