Electric cars and trucks will reduce a lot of noise pollution, but electric motorcycles will take us from quieter to eerily quiet… Can’t happen soon enough.
No fucking chance. Motorbrains will never abandon their custom exhausts. For them riding a bike without annoying everyone around doesn't make any sense. Why bother if no one is looking at you?
They will just slow down right before it. It will be great for people living right next to it but wont solve the issue.
The proper solution would be to de legalize modified exhausts. Both sales and possession. Treat it like fireworks or other socially harmful things. If you stop someone riding with one you charge them with possession. You look for workshops that install them and charge them with possession. You look for stores that sell them and charge them with sales.
The nice thing about it is that you don't really have to look for them like for drugs. You can hear to from kilometers away, just part next to highway and stop the obvious offenders. Small fine for first time offenders and huge one for re-offenders. That's what they did in Singapore and it's working.
I would take a motorcycle revving over the noise some EVs make. Holy shit it is the most annoying sound I've ever heard and I'm terrified of a world where all cars sound like that.
Carbureted or not, it certainly helps if either the manufacturer or the owner doesn't put on a super loud exhaust, I own a bike with a relatively quiet exhaust to the point I've gotten multiple offers from family and relatives to have it swapped to a louder exhaust, and they don't understand when I tell them I absolutely despise that shit
My dad has been riding most of his life, and I have most of mine. Both of us have noticed that the "loud pipes save lives" slogan is a farce. If a driver is tuning out they will not notice your exhaust. If a driver is on their phone it won't make a difference.
The trick is to ride defensively and wear a helmet. There's a reason neither me nor my dad got into a serious accident get, its because we believe every car is out to get us, not that "if I'm loud and obnoxious they'll notice me"
It’s not about running right or wrong. Engines run differently at different temps. Idling after start isn’t necessary if you get on and ride immediately though. But I did have to choke mine a bit for the first few minutes.
Got rid of it though. It was stupid noisy and I hated myself on it until I could get out of the city.
Being from the home state of Harley Davidson, more sympathetic I could not be. I hate it lol. They have giant rallies here all the time, back some years ago there was some big anniversary and the whole city was literally filled with them. It was kinda cool but loud as hell. I had a lot of thoughts about how the thought of freedom became intertwined with the freedom of mobility and for a while the motorcycle was sold as the ultimate symbol of freedom in stuff like Easy Rider, it went from hippies into bikers and addicted a generation to leather and gasoline. They did a hell of a job with it.
Yeah, there are cool bikes of all sorts for sure, I would like to try sometimes. I was just saying the particular bike (harleys, choppers, big loud things) and lifestyle that was sold as freedom was anything but, those bikes cost as much as a car now.
I am thinking of getting a bike and exploring the south american continent but I know nothing about bikes. Where do I begin looking? Recommend me shows, yt channels, books and bike models please!!
FortNine is the best motorcycle Youtuber, and it's not even close.
For exploring South America, there are 2 options:
A BMW R1200GS if you want to do it like a German tourist, or a Honda Supercup if you want to ride like the locals.
FIRST, go take a safety/training course. Get your license and PRACTICE, probably for several years. become proficient in every situation you might face.
Then worry about exploring S.A. or other places in the world.
I never owned a bike. I have the license to drive them but never used it. Been thinking of crossing south america for a long time so I will first get the motorcycle and get used to it for about a year or so and then the road it is. Was researching motorcycle models, brands and prices on my country this afternoon (don't wanna doxx myself, hope you understand). Came up with what I think would be required characteristics for the bike:
It should have enough power to accelerate comfortably from about 50 to 75 mph, 56 to 81 mph, and ideally even 62 to 87 mph when needed. I'm not talking about cruising at those speeds all the time, but having enough reserve power for safe overtaking on highways. In my untrained view, safety would come from being able to pass slower vehicles quickly and spend less time in the opposite lane, rather than just having a high top speed. I need the bike to be popular around my area so I can get parts when it breaks and it should be comfortable for my body (test driving it will be then).
Been riding in a European city with a bike that can go from 2k to 12k rpm. Of course in resident areas I kept it so low to be indistinguishable from the cars around me.
Once I was home in the afternoon, with my months-old baby finally napping after god knows how long nursing her (very difficult to fall asleep between chronic stomach ache attacks, choppy nights, really miserable at that time).
I hear a motorbike in the street, revving up the engine. I step outside, go to the (young) guy and tell him that my baby is trying to nap. The fucker says nothing, looks me in the eye and takes off at maximum speed/noise.
Not that I really wished it at the moment, but statistically, the bastard is dead by now.
Or maybe he has kids of his own and he's doing good, being nice to people - who knows?
Depending on the bike, you may need to rev it a bit to warm it up and keep from stalling.
My monster Harley is loud as hell, which is why I bought the Suzuki. Harley is for long trips, and the Suzuki, which is far quieter than the neighbors kids, is for riding to work or the corner store.
What keeps you from reving it while you're already driving away?
That'll warm up the engine just fine.
Or even better: Put quality synthetic oil with the right viscosity in, have your carb cleaned and tuned correctly so it starts properly, and put a new muffler on it while you're in the shop.
As far as why not rev while riding, the RPM required for slow technical control, me getting off the patio, across the yard, and through the fence, on the Harley is way too precise to try and also manage blipping the engine to keep it running.
As far as oil and tuning, it has the right oil, and it has a custom ECU that handles all the tuning automatically based on how I ride.
One of the mufflers did fall off a few years ago, and to maintain symmetry I removed the other one.
You obviously didn't read my earlier response, stating that all this is the reason I bought a second, quiet motorcycle for early morning rides to work etc.
The beast only comes out for long trips, and for that I prep it the day before and park it in the street.
I'm not an asshole, I'm just a guy who has a loud bike.
Carbureted bikes may need a little time to warm up in order to hold idle without dying. A clean and tune should fix that, but that's effort the owner may not be in a position to make for whatever reason.
However, all you need to do is hold the throttle at, say, 1500 RPM instead of 1000. Enough to not die. Adding a cheap throttle lock makes it so you don't even have to stand there while it warms up.
There is zero reason to rev a bike in neutral, at any time, besides dick swinging.
My bike used to die if I idled at stop lights for too long before I worked in the carb a bit. So if I felt the engine slowing, I would blip the throttle to keep it running. But this was purely utilitarian, and my bike isn't a loud one
Im so glad my new bike has fuel injection. I can ride immediately after start.
Hated carb bikes, their chokes and all that gunk that accumulates in there.
An arroyo runs through my neighborhood (dry river bed). The kids ride their dirt bikes through it. I noticed a couple of years ago a few kids had electric versions. They're very quiet, and the kids have just as much fun, it seems. I was happy to see that.
We still have the small-dicks who rev their cars, trucks, and bikes on their way to work every morning, though. Probably the same fools who set off near-professional grade fireworks every night for several days around the 4th of July. It used to be only on the 4th, but now it spreads across a week, plus New Years, and Veterans Day and Memorial Day.
Can't wait for genetic modification that gives every male the same size dick.
I am looking to get into motorcycles and know nothing about them. I want a work horse to travel through the south american continent. I was under the impression that Harley was considered great for that purpose, I guess their propaganda worked on me. Can someone enlighten me on models or places to learn what I want?
Yeah, unfortunately they lived by the boomers with extra cash, and they'll die with those same boomers. I don't remember the last time I've seen someone under 55-60 on a Harely. Maybe the occasional kid whose dad bought him one?
I say this as a former Harley owner. Anything but a Harley. Id you want to ride through South America I would look at some of Japanese bike. Honda makes a good adventure bike. Ewan McGregor a long tour rider and he uses a BMW. If you can afford one of those then that is what I would get.
Ewan McGregor was followed by the team of BMW mechanics for one film, he used other brands in other films.
Japanese bikes are reliable and fixable. BMWs are neither.
I use to ride with a guy that was a BMW lover. He has 2 r75s and one other. The r75 he rode the most had like almost 200k miles on it. It ran like a top. I have never owned one but know several people who do and they love them. However, you are correct Japanese bike are world wide and easy to get parts for when they break which would be the biggest consideration if I was going a bike tour. I have looked at getting an adventure bike but I find the standover height to be too high.
Personally I'd recommend a Honda. They are cheap and durable. The most important thing is to learn to ride defensively and wear a helmet. If you take the time to understand positioning, other driver behavior, and how to handle hazards you'll do great
As for all-rounders, they aren't the sexiest bikes but any upright dual-sport or adventure type are going to be the most fun and most versatile. Sport bikes are quick, cruisers are sexy and comfy, but damn did I love ripping around on a XT250.
My friend rides and he had to mod his to have option to quiet it down when he goes back home to his apt building.
However, I do understand why he needs it loud everywhere else. Cars as is may not see him and the loudness helps... However, I wouldn't trust other drivers still.
Loudness is your “size” on a bike. If people don’t hear you, they damn sure don’t see you. I’m sure it’s annoying, but no more annoying than being run over.
That has absolutely no relation to the question. The question is about when the bike is first started, and still parked, the owner lets it sit there idling loud as fuck, and often revs it up multiple times, for several minutes.
The real answer is that generally speaking these are bikes meant for performance and speed, so they need to warm up before they drive well. The people using them to commute to and from work in and out of the be suburbs are the same people who drive gigantic ass Fuck You pickup trucks to their office job and need special parking because it doesn't fit in the regular employee lot/garage.
That makes sense on freeways/ large roads, but I even hear it in parking lots, or when they're idiling. If a bicycle can safely ride there, then a motorcycle doesn't need to rev.
Wait. There seems to be no correlation between loudness motorcycles and safety according to, like, every car site. I think I’ve just been told that so often that I believed it. Seemed like it made sense, but doesn’t show that it helps. This is what I am referring to
If that’s the case fuck em. Loud assholes.
Loudness barely helps emergency vehicles. When you’re moving at speed, even with an incredibly loud mechanical siren you’d be surprised how close you have to be before you can hear it
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ilillilillilillililli@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 72d
Its not their fault. They were just born with excessively small genitals.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 72d
I dated a person with a micropenis and she did not behave like that.
Maybe it's a man thing?
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 72d
I know too many cisgenderd AFABs that do it to think it's just a man thing.
I also know a couple guys with small ones and they also for the most part aren't like that either, so it's definitely not size.
Proposed consensus: maybe they're just assholes?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 72d
Blaming deuterosomy, bold but I like it
some_designer_dude@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 72d
Electric cars and trucks will reduce a lot of noise pollution, but electric motorcycles will take us from quieter to eerily quiet… Can’t happen soon enough.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 21 pts · 72d
Switching from mopeds to electric bikes has made such a tremendous difference already
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 9 pts · 71d
No fucking chance. Motorbrains will never abandon their custom exhausts. For them riding a bike without annoying everyone around doesn't make any sense. Why bother if no one is looking at you?
mech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 70d
Put up traffic cameras with microphones attached.
If someone drives by and makes too much noise, they get a fine in the mail.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 70d
They will just slow down right before it. It will be great for people living right next to it but wont solve the issue.
The proper solution would be to de legalize modified exhausts. Both sales and possession. Treat it like fireworks or other socially harmful things. If you stop someone riding with one you charge them with possession. You look for workshops that install them and charge them with possession. You look for stores that sell them and charge them with sales.
The nice thing about it is that you don't really have to look for them like for drugs. You can hear to from kilometers away, just part next to highway and stop the obvious offenders. Small fine for first time offenders and huge one for re-offenders. That's what they did in Singapore and it's working.
freebee@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 71d
Cheap enormous Bluetooth speakers enter the chat
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
In the city that is pretty common for bicycles LOL
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 71d
I would take a motorcycle revving over the noise some EVs make. Holy shit it is the most annoying sound I've ever heard and I'm terrified of a world where all cars sound like that.
netweirdo@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 71d
Carbureted or not, it certainly helps if either the manufacturer or the owner doesn't put on a super loud exhaust, I own a bike with a relatively quiet exhaust to the point I've gotten multiple offers from family and relatives to have it swapped to a louder exhaust, and they don't understand when I tell them I absolutely despise that shit
sportsjorts@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 71d
Thank you for your service.
maturelemontree@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 70d
My dad has been riding most of his life, and I have most of mine. Both of us have noticed that the "loud pipes save lives" slogan is a farce. If a driver is tuning out they will not notice your exhaust. If a driver is on their phone it won't make a difference.
The trick is to ride defensively and wear a helmet. There's a reason neither me nor my dad got into a serious accident get, its because we believe every car is out to get us, not that "if I'm loud and obnoxious they'll notice me"
r0ertel@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
I knew a guy who would wear a high visibility vest like road construction workers wear. Also a bright orange helmet. It seemed to make a difference.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 71d
Because they're selfish, thoughtless arseholes.
snoons@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 72d
Emotional support vehicle.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 72d
It’s tuned poorly and doesn’t run right until it heats up.
some_designer_dude@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 72d
It’s not about running right or wrong. Engines run differently at different temps. Idling after start isn’t necessary if you get on and ride immediately though. But I did have to choke mine a bit for the first few minutes.
Got rid of it though. It was stupid noisy and I hated myself on it until I could get out of the city.
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 72d
Being from the home state of Harley Davidson, more sympathetic I could not be. I hate it lol. They have giant rallies here all the time, back some years ago there was some big anniversary and the whole city was literally filled with them. It was kinda cool but loud as hell. I had a lot of thoughts about how the thought of freedom became intertwined with the freedom of mobility and for a while the motorcycle was sold as the ultimate symbol of freedom in stuff like Easy Rider, it went from hippies into bikers and addicted a generation to leather and gasoline. They did a hell of a job with it.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 72d
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 72d
Yeah, there are cool bikes of all sorts for sure, I would like to try sometimes. I was just saying the particular bike (harleys, choppers, big loud things) and lifestyle that was sold as freedom was anything but, those bikes cost as much as a car now.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 72d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 70d
Harley makes an adventure bike to go anywhere, but I would not trust it to not break and it's overpriced.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 70d
kinship@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 71d
I am thinking of getting a bike and exploring the south american continent but I know nothing about bikes. Where do I begin looking? Recommend me shows, yt channels, books and bike models please!!
mech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 70d
FortNine is the best motorcycle Youtuber, and it's not even close.
For exploring South America, there are 2 options:
A BMW R1200GS if you want to do it like a German tourist, or a Honda Supercup if you want to ride like the locals.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
FIRST, go take a safety/training course. Get your license and PRACTICE, probably for several years. become proficient in every situation you might face.
Then worry about exploring S.A. or other places in the world.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 71d
kinship@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 71d
I never owned a bike. I have the license to drive them but never used it. Been thinking of crossing south america for a long time so I will first get the motorcycle and get used to it for about a year or so and then the road it is. Was researching motorcycle models, brands and prices on my country this afternoon (don't wanna doxx myself, hope you understand). Came up with what I think would be required characteristics for the bike: It should have enough power to accelerate comfortably from about 50 to 75 mph, 56 to 81 mph, and ideally even 62 to 87 mph when needed. I'm not talking about cruising at those speeds all the time, but having enough reserve power for safe overtaking on highways. In my untrained view, safety would come from being able to pass slower vehicles quickly and spend less time in the opposite lane, rather than just having a high top speed. I need the bike to be popular around my area so I can get parts when it breaks and it should be comfortable for my body (test driving it will be then).
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 71d
kinship@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 71d
Thanks for the recommendations and for sticking up on me xD. Yeah as you can still I have a lot to learn
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 71d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 70d
I've been riding over 40 years. I never understood this freedom bullshit. In a car, I can drive any time, in rain and snow, year around.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 70d
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 20 pts · 71d
They are stupid and they think that if they like the noise everyone else likes it
or
They are stupid and they think no one else can hear it.
To sum up: they are stupid.
Strider@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 71d
They're assholes.
Been riding in a European city with a bike that can go from 2k to 12k rpm. Of course in resident areas I kept it so low to be indistinguishable from the cars around me.
witheyeandclaw@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 72d
How else are they supposed to let everyone else know they're riding a motorcycle?
Have you ever noticed when walking on the sidewalk that motorcyclists always make eye contact? They need to be sure people are observing them.
Triumph@fedia.io · 19 pts · 72d
They're making sure you're not going to dash into the street in front of them.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 70d
Loud pipes save lives is a myth and just an excuse to be an asshole.
HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 72d
Once I was home in the afternoon, with my months-old baby finally napping after god knows how long nursing her (very difficult to fall asleep between chronic stomach ache attacks, choppy nights, really miserable at that time).
I hear a motorbike in the street, revving up the engine. I step outside, go to the (young) guy and tell him that my baby is trying to nap. The fucker says nothing, looks me in the eye and takes off at maximum speed/noise.
Not that I really wished it at the moment, but statistically, the bastard is dead by now. Or maybe he has kids of his own and he's doing good, being nice to people - who knows?
wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 72d
I seem to remember South Park having a word for inconsiderate people like this, but I can't remember what it was...
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 71d
Small dicked babys
wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 66d
Careful... don't get the Trump crowd too excited, now.
tumbleweed05@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 72d
some men think being masculine comes from loud pipes, but i’m of the opinion that real masculinity is being able to hear 😎
Weirdfish@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 72d
Depending on the bike, you may need to rev it a bit to warm it up and keep from stalling.
My monster Harley is loud as hell, which is why I bought the Suzuki. Harley is for long trips, and the Suzuki, which is far quieter than the neighbors kids, is for riding to work or the corner store.
mech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 71d
What keeps you from reving it while you're already driving away?
That'll warm up the engine just fine.
Or even better: Put quality synthetic oil with the right viscosity in, have your carb cleaned and tuned correctly so it starts properly, and put a new muffler on it while you're in the shop.
Weirdfish@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 71d
As far as why not rev while riding, the RPM required for slow technical control, me getting off the patio, across the yard, and through the fence, on the Harley is way too precise to try and also manage blipping the engine to keep it running.
As far as oil and tuning, it has the right oil, and it has a custom ECU that handles all the tuning automatically based on how I ride.
One of the mufflers did fall off a few years ago, and to maintain symmetry I removed the other one.
Maybe that's why the bike is loud as fuck
mech@feddit.org · 3 pts · 71d
If it has an ECU and can't idle from cold, something is fucked.
Also, I hope your neighbor starts to knock down walls with a jackhammer at 3am.
Weirdfish@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 71d
You obviously didn't read my earlier response, stating that all this is the reason I bought a second, quiet motorcycle for early morning rides to work etc.
The beast only comes out for long trips, and for that I prep it the day before and park it in the street.
I'm not an asshole, I'm just a guy who has a loud bike.
mech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 70d
Maybe put on mufflers anyway, so your ECU starts working correctly again.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 70d
But that defines you as an asshole.
Harleys are not loud from the factory.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d
muffle
/ˈməf(ə)l/
To muffle means to deaden or make a sound quieter by wrapping, covering, or shielding the noise source.
Yeah I think we cracked the case
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 70d
If the bike had its mufflers removed, then the ECU map won't work properly.
So many idiots make their bikes louder and slower.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 72d
I can’t sleep without my windows being closed anymore. Traffic is so bad, and there’s far too many people cursed with small genitalia.
As for idling it, it’s because they don’t believe in computers making their engine run correctly.
Mac@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 72d
Love the casual body shaming in your comment
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 70d
Attention seeking behavior. They have an internal desire to be noticed all the time.
Most aren’t trying to be assholes, just noticed.
9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 70d
imagine being so good at something without even trying!
Triumph@fedia.io · 9 pts · 71d
Carbureted bikes may need a little time to warm up in order to hold idle without dying. A clean and tune should fix that, but that's effort the owner may not be in a position to make for whatever reason.
However, all you need to do is hold the throttle at, say, 1500 RPM instead of 1000. Enough to not die. Adding a cheap throttle lock makes it so you don't even have to stand there while it warms up.
There is zero reason to rev a bike in neutral, at any time, besides dick swinging.
blarghly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
My bike used to die if I idled at stop lights for too long before I worked in the carb a bit. So if I felt the engine slowing, I would blip the throttle to keep it running. But this was purely utilitarian, and my bike isn't a loud one
Triumph@fedia.io · 2 pts · 71d
I differentiate between blip and rev.
MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 71d
Im so glad my new bike has fuel injection. I can ride immediately after start. Hated carb bikes, their chokes and all that gunk that accumulates in there.
Triumph@fedia.io · 1 pts · 71d
Oh I love me some carburetors, but yeah, FI on a daily driver is wonderful.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 70d
There is nothing to like about carbs. They are a compromise on fueling, they waste gas, they clog up, they suck too cold or too hot or too high.
Triumph@fedia.io · 2 pts · 70d
They're 100% mechanical and you can usually fix them with a flat screwdriver and some pliers.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 8 pts · 72d
Butters: "Wow! So what do you call someone who's thinking about possibly buying a Harley?" Stan: "Oh, they're bike-curious."
darklamer@feddit.org · 8 pts · 72d
This video explains why, but it doesn't cite any sources so I'm not sure whether it really is scientifically accurate:
https://youtu.be/ylhsbfQTPDQ
gnawmon@ttrpg.network · 3 pts · 72d
idk looks pretty accurate to me
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 71d
An arroyo runs through my neighborhood (dry river bed). The kids ride their dirt bikes through it. I noticed a couple of years ago a few kids had electric versions. They're very quiet, and the kids have just as much fun, it seems. I was happy to see that.
We still have the small-dicks who rev their cars, trucks, and bikes on their way to work every morning, though. Probably the same fools who set off near-professional grade fireworks every night for several days around the 4th of July. It used to be only on the 4th, but now it spreads across a week, plus New Years, and Veterans Day and Memorial Day.
Can't wait for genetic modification that gives every male the same size dick.
miseducator@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 72d
WHISTLE TIPS GO "WHOOWHOOOOO!"
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 72d
Need to maximise that fuel to momentum inefficiencies.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 71d
South Park has a perfect answer for you.....
white_nrdy@programming.dev · 3 pts · 71d
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DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 71d
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d
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demous@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 71d
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Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 71d
Think of all the lives they've saved with those loud pipes.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 70d
Think of the people that dies due to continued sleep deprivation
kinship@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 71d
I am looking to get into motorcycles and know nothing about them. I want a work horse to travel through the south american continent. I was under the impression that Harley was considered great for that purpose, I guess their propaganda worked on me. Can someone enlighten me on models or places to learn what I want?
clif@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 71d
I've never known anyone who said Harley's were good for anything besides"style"
... This includes several people who owned Harley's.
Never had one myself so I can't speak from personal experience.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 70d
Harley is a few years away from broke. Dealers are closing everywhere. They catered to one demographic and it's dying fast.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
Yeah, unfortunately they lived by the boomers with extra cash, and they'll die with those same boomers. I don't remember the last time I've seen someone under 55-60 on a Harely. Maybe the occasional kid whose dad bought him one?
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 71d
I'm not an expert, but anyone I've ever seen doing transcontinental rides has some kind of 'touring' bike. BMW is a pretty common brand.
ProfThadBach@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 70d
I say this as a former Harley owner. Anything but a Harley. Id you want to ride through South America I would look at some of Japanese bike. Honda makes a good adventure bike. Ewan McGregor a long tour rider and he uses a BMW. If you can afford one of those then that is what I would get.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 70d
Ewan McGregor was followed by the team of BMW mechanics for one film, he used other brands in other films. Japanese bikes are reliable and fixable. BMWs are neither.
ProfThadBach@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
I use to ride with a guy that was a BMW lover. He has 2 r75s and one other. The r75 he rode the most had like almost 200k miles on it. It ran like a top. I have never owned one but know several people who do and they love them. However, you are correct Japanese bike are world wide and easy to get parts for when they break which would be the biggest consideration if I was going a bike tour. I have looked at getting an adventure bike but I find the standover height to be too high.
maturelemontree@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 70d
Personally I'd recommend a Honda. They are cheap and durable. The most important thing is to learn to ride defensively and wear a helmet. If you take the time to understand positioning, other driver behavior, and how to handle hazards you'll do great
As for all-rounders, they aren't the sexiest bikes but any upright dual-sport or adventure type are going to be the most fun and most versatile. Sport bikes are quick, cruisers are sexy and comfy, but damn did I love ripping around on a XT250.
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 72d
Probably to make people run to the internet and complain.
Elextra@literature.cafe · 3 pts · 72d
My friend rides and he had to mod his to have option to quiet it down when he goes back home to his apt building.
However, I do understand why he needs it loud everywhere else. Cars as is may not see him and the loudness helps... However, I wouldn't trust other drivers still.
crozilla@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 72d
Does he really…?
https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a35952569/loud-pipes-do-not-save-lives/
Elextra@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 72d
Agree. I think either way its dangerous.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 70d
Louder bikes are not safer.
nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 71d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylhsbfQTPDQ
funny because true.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 2 pts · 70d
They are craving for recognition.
RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 71d
EV motorcycles exist. Zero reason to ride a gas one in a neighborhood.
MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 71d
Used motorcycle market is something like 95% ICE bikes. A new motorcycle with comparable stats costs new from 10-30k€
Meanwhile used ICEs go from 2-10k. Guess which one I could afford.
auzy1@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
Pretty sure in Australia they might be too powerful for learners
SaneMartigan@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 71d
There's a huge learner market for 250cc's in Oz due to the learner-power restrictions. I'm on an open licence now, I borrowed a bike to get licensed.
yessikg@fedia.io · 1 pts · 70d
There are plenty that are 250cc equivalent
BeUnique@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 71d
TheStrongestBoy@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 72d
Loudness is your “size” on a bike. If people don’t hear you, they damn sure don’t see you. I’m sure it’s annoying, but no more annoying than being run over.
Edit: I learned this is probably a lie.
baronvonj@piefed.social · 7 pts · 72d
That has absolutely no relation to the question. The question is about when the bike is first started, and still parked, the owner lets it sit there idling loud as fuck, and often revs it up multiple times, for several minutes.
The real answer is that generally speaking these are bikes meant for performance and speed, so they need to warm up before they drive well. The people using them to commute to and from work in and out of the be suburbs are the same people who drive gigantic ass Fuck You pickup trucks to their office job and need special parking because it doesn't fit in the regular employee lot/garage.
TheStrongestBoy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 72d
Yeah, I already answered this in a reply.
Periodicchair@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 72d
That makes sense on freeways/ large roads, but I even hear it in parking lots, or when they're idiling. If a bicycle can safely ride there, then a motorcycle doesn't need to rev.
TheStrongestBoy@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 72d
Wait. There seems to be no correlation between loudness motorcycles and safety according to, like, every car site. I think I’ve just been told that so often that I believed it. Seemed like it made sense, but doesn’t show that it helps. This is what I am referring to If that’s the case fuck em. Loud assholes.
I feel jilted.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d
Loudness barely helps emergency vehicles. When you’re moving at speed, even with an incredibly loud mechanical siren you’d be surprised how close you have to be before you can hear it
ieGod@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 71d
Debunked. Please don't spread this.
https://motoress.com/skills-and-tips/loud-pipes-do-not-save-lives/