Depends. There are a bunch of Flak towers from WW2 all over Europe that were so massive and structurally sound that it was pretty much impossible to tear them down after the war. The Soviets tried to blow up one in Berlin and it literally just split in two. It was deemed too much work to dismantle it so they just piled rubble on top and turned it into a hill.
There's another larger one in the center of Hamburg and the Brits calculated that the amount of explosives needed to bring it down would level the entire city, so they left it. Another one in Hamburg failed to blow up with 16 tons of explosives. Only the interior walls collapsed and the exterior remained intact. It's still in use today.
I'd wager that these buildings could very well survive thousands of years.
Lol, for the most part ferroconcrete with steel reinforcements. But the main reason they are so indestructible is just the fact that their walls are between 2 and 4 meters thick. They were designed to shrug off direct hits from 1000kg bombs.
Our rehearsal room is in one of those bunkers. They are sometimes ridiculously complex with all the corridors and rooms, but they are indeed extremely sound.
It probably had something to do with the demilitarization of Germany. But yeah, most of them were repurposed in the end. One is now a hotel, school and club, one is a green energy storage and another was turned into a massive aquarium.
If you look into pyramid building theories, you'll see that is rather difficult to lift such heavy stones at such heights at such a speed. It's likely they even used river-based hydraulic force. I'd say quite advanced compared to what else we see from 4k years ago. There's many great resources and this topic (and many bogus ones), but for simplicity, I'll link to Wikipedia here.
Pyramids are a dime a dozen, too. The Öresund bridge is Europe's longest proper bridge (Wikipedia lists lots of longer "bridges" that are just raised overland roads - since when is that a "bridge"?).
What really makes the egypt pyramids stand out (in comparison to the mayans and aztecs) is the way it has an actual pointy top. Here's an in depth video of how cool that is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kWDOuY2Uo&t=698
Anon states that Denmark has no landmarks whatsoever. The Öresund bridge might not be quite as impressive as the Gizeh pyramids, but it is clearly a well-known landmark and a great feat of civil engineering, and arguably more useful than a giant tomb.
Pretty sure they have some cool castles in denmark. They did at one point at least, around the early 1600's I know they had castles with batteries around their straits to enforce tolls for ships passing through, the monarchies main source of income.
They also did a lot of work with water management to control/reduce flooding. Once upon a time they had a bunch of coastal marshland and seasonal floodlands but invested significantly in infrastructure and solved that back in the medieval age.
Yeah they are super low, like they don't have hills to speak of and are really flat and close to the sea. They would have to, although you never hear about them like the netherlands in that regard. Not sure if they are included in "the low countries," people mention, but I didn't think so, but they are.
They're not.
It's the Benelux.
Where I live is only a few meters above sea level.
A large part of Be and NL are around sea level, and some even a few meters below
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Kolanaki@pawb.social · 56 pts · 71d
Almost nothing built today will last as long as the pyramids already have.
Hubi@feddit.org · 30 pts · 70d
Depends. There are a bunch of Flak towers from WW2 all over Europe that were so massive and structurally sound that it was pretty much impossible to tear them down after the war. The Soviets tried to blow up one in Berlin and it literally just split in two. It was deemed too much work to dismantle it so they just piled rubble on top and turned it into a hill.
There's another larger one in the center of Hamburg and the Brits calculated that the amount of explosives needed to bring it down would level the entire city, so they left it. Another one in Hamburg failed to blow up with 16 tons of explosives. Only the interior walls collapsed and the exterior remained intact. It's still in use today.
I'd wager that these buildings could very well survive thousands of years.
janus2@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 70d
the fuck are they made of!? Nokia cell phones!?
Hubi@feddit.org · 23 pts · 70d
Lol, for the most part ferroconcrete with steel reinforcements. But the main reason they are so indestructible is just the fact that their walls are between 2 and 4 meters thick. They were designed to shrug off direct hits from 1000kg bombs.
littleomid@feddit.org · 9 pts · 70d
Our rehearsal room is in one of those bunkers. They are sometimes ridiculously complex with all the corridors and rooms, but they are indeed extremely sound.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 70d
Why take them down at all and not repurpose them?
Hubi@feddit.org · 5 pts · 70d
It probably had something to do with the demilitarization of Germany. But yeah, most of them were repurposed in the end. One is now a hotel, school and club, one is a green energy storage and another was turned into a massive aquarium.
blarghly@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 71d
So my snickers bar wrapper won't last 100,000 years?
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 71d
If anything, it destroys whole ass science labs according to this documentary called Jurassic World.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 70d
Plenty of things build today will last much longer:
Every nuclear waste disposal site (hopefully)
Seed vaults
Nuclear bunkers
Johandea@feddit.nu · 15 pts · 70d
Don't forget about every single use plastic packaging out there!
lemmur@szmer.info · 3 pts · 69d
Plastic packaging will quickly tear into microplastics, which indeed will last centuries
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 70d
Concrete doesn't last, stone does. Brick to a lesser extent.
currycourier@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 70d
*Concrete with rebar. Roman concrete has lasted plenty long. Though the lime in it helps.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 70d
That is true. Roman Concrete is still standing 2k years on. Ours lasts decades, maybe a century if well done.
They used ash from Mount Aetna in Sicily to make some of it. I forget the thing with the lime, how that was different than what we use?
Visstix@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 70d
A Dane not impressed with putting blocks on top of each other.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 70d
Le Gooo!!
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 71d
In Denmarkanons defense, pyramids really are just the easiest way to stack shit.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 18 pts · 71d
And they didn't even do that
AzuraTheSpellkissed@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 71d
If you look into pyramid building theories, you'll see that is rather difficult to lift such heavy stones at such heights at such a speed. It's likely they even used river-based hydraulic force. I'd say quite advanced compared to what else we see from 4k years ago. There's many great resources and this topic (and many bogus ones), but for simplicity, I'll link to Wikipedia here.
Gladaed@feddit.org · 1 pts · 70d
They virtually build themselves. Though whipping in the summer heat can be laborious.
davetortoise@reddthat.com · 16 pts · 70d
The Øresund bridge?? Literally one of the coolest feats of civil engineering ever???
Sv443@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 70d
wow cool another bridge, we only have like 999999999 of those
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 8 pts · 70d
Pyramids are a dime a dozen, too. The Öresund bridge is Europe's longest proper bridge (Wikipedia lists lots of longer "bridges" that are just raised overland roads - since when is that a "bridge"?).
qarbone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
What about the Vasco de Gama Bridge in Portugal, which I'm finding out isn't even the longest bridge anymore?
davetortoise@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 70d
Not many that dive underwater midway across!
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 70d
Sweden enters the chat.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
In every Danish/Swedish crime series where it's blocked to stop the serial killer from escaping
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 71d
Problem with the pyramids is that there are so many of them that it starts to just seem like a normal thing to do. And in various parts of the world.
I wonder if the Mayan ones surrounded by forest had to lop down lots of trees to make way for the moving stones, or if the forest came later.
tomatoely@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 70d
What really makes the egypt pyramids stand out (in comparison to the mayans and aztecs) is the way it has an actual pointy top. Here's an in depth video of how cool that is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kWDOuY2Uo&t=698
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
Probably.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 13 pts · 71d
Öresund bridge (bridge between Denmark and Sweden) is pretty neat.
atro_city@fedia.io · 2 pts · 70d
Built 5k years ago?
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 70d
Anon states that Denmark has no landmarks whatsoever. The Öresund bridge might not be quite as impressive as the Gizeh pyramids, but it is clearly a well-known landmark and a great feat of civil engineering, and arguably more useful than a giant tomb.
atro_city@fedia.io · 2 pts · 70d
I think it's quite obvious what kind of landmarks they're talking about.
"they built something 5k years ago, that's unimpressive"
"lol, look who's talking"
"we have something recent"
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 70d
Pretty sure they have some cool castles in denmark. They did at one point at least, around the early 1600's I know they had castles with batteries around their straits to enforce tolls for ships passing through, the monarchies main source of income.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
They also did a lot of work with water management to control/reduce flooding. Once upon a time they had a bunch of coastal marshland and seasonal floodlands but invested significantly in infrastructure and solved that back in the medieval age.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 70d
Yeah they are super low, like they don't have hills to speak of and are really flat and close to the sea. They would have to, although you never hear about them like the netherlands in that regard. Not sure if they are included in "the low countries," people mention, but I didn't think so, but they are.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
They're not.
It's the Benelux.
Where I live is only a few meters above sea level.
A large part of Be and NL are around sea level, and some even a few meters below
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 70d
That's just a more complicated way of stacking rocks though. And it's smaller than a pyramid - much smaller.
zout@fedia.io · 6 pts · 71d
Danmark actually has pre historic construction. But, you could very much see dolmens as stacked rocks, more than the pyramids.
frank@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 70d
Lotta runestones too! Nowhere near as old nor impresssive as the pyramids though
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 70d
Now, now. Denmark has clogs.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 70d
Send 'em some draino
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 70d
Lego
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
What about the mermaid?
SavinDWhales@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
Surely stolen again by now.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 70d
Pesky swedes.