Trump Celebrates While America Capitulates | The peace deal with Tehran is an Iranian victory.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/trump-iran-deal/687547/?gift=IWm_PeoyVBXYNxIKFoPXZWEtIsWBz2lXA1OXtJPsdAQ
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Arancello@aussie.zone · 115 pts · 74d
Am i understanding this correctly? They washed the floor with drumpf face, got hundreds of billions in war reparations, keep their nukes and missiles AND now charge transit fees for Hormuz Strait. If this is the usa winning, I’m going to invite you to a poker game.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 117 pts · 74d
Okay but have you considered they also got rid of Obama’s bilateral deal that worked perfectly fine?
FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 74d
This is the Edsel of winning.
rezad@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 74d
what did you expect from Barack "HOSSEIN" Obama.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 37 pts · 74d
Iran doesn't have nukes and the 94 year old we murdered on day 1 said nukes were anti-humanity and a sin against god.
But yes, Trump is doing the thing he should have done day 1. Instead of murdering 173 school children.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 74d
There's no reason for them to not make nukes now, perhaps they would've stuck with that fatwa if they didn't have crimes against humanity committed against them. Perhaps they are more principled than my pragmatic ass but I don't see a reason for them to not make nukes.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 73d
This isn't the first time Iran has been subject to crimes against humanity. Iran has proven they don't need nukes to defend themselves.
HK65@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 73d
Would have been mighty useful tho
Imagine them nuking a US carrier group
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 74d
Probably, but we still don't have the details so it could be even worse for him!
(it also hasn't been signed yet so there's still time for it to fall apart)
thefluffiest@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 74d
And even if it gets signed, Trump might still tear it up
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 73d
"I did what yesterday?"
GardenGeek@europe.pub · 4 pts · 74d
Even if it was signed Trump is known to tear his ,,deals" up before the ink has dried.
aarch0x40@piefed.social · 8 pts · 74d
He also must publicly refer to it as the “Obama best ever president peace deal”
Strider@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 73d
Don't play poker with them, the casino will go broke!
...oh
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 73d
Be careful what you wish for they'll let you win in poker so they can rape children in your basement while you're busy counting chips: don't underestimate them, they're doing exactly what they want to do.
rezad@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 74d
Almost none of that is true.
Iran had to take a almost one-sided deal.
we(I am an iranian) don't keep "our nuke" because we didn't have any.
and of course we don't limit our missiles, are we retarded or something that specially after this western war give up our one deterrent?
I don't think any fee will be placed on the strait.
pticrix@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 73d
But the Dow! it's over 50k, you can't blame the president when the Dow is as high as that!
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 37 pts · 73d
Not a peace deal yet. Israel will do everything they can to derail it.
Foni@piefed.zip · 32 pts · 74d
I don't understand the surprise, Iran has won the war, it's obvious
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 20 pts · 73d
The surprise is that Trump admitted it.
stretch2m@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 73d
Oh, this isn't over.
Typotyper@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 73d
This is all grand standing to make things settle down for the UFC July 4 party. Then it will be back to killing children because something something happened. No money will be sent to Iran. Israel might slow down the genocide but only in the news.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 73d
The war isn't over, and while Iran didn't lose it, they didn't win it either, lebanon especially didn't win it.
This thing won't end, just cool down for a bit as Israel occupies lebanon and wastes people regularly while the US tries to keep Iran from honoring their commitment to their allies.
redsand@infosec.pub · 26 pts · 74d
Bullshit. Deal falls apart tomorrow
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 73d
Once the profit from the stock market pump is taken
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 73d
Exactly. Trump will bomb something again.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 73d
Yeah but I'm waiting for them to just say the wars over refuse to continue talking about it and accuse reporters of being nasty if they ask about the obviously continuing war.
Arrandee@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 74d
If this administration is humiliated, I would say we’re all winners.
silence7@slrpnk.net · 30 pts · 74d
It's possible for us all to lose. Good chance of a famine six months from now because so much of the northern hemisphere couldn't get fertilizer during planting season and the US decided to make food for cows and cars instead of for people
ArgentRaven@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 74d
Cows that will now get screw worms and make beef even more scarce. Complete waste of resources.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -2 pts · 74d
What staple crops are getting harvested mid December in the northern hemisphere? And also have zero stockpile?
somethingsnappy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 74d
Uh, the bad harvest would be earlier than the famine.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -2 pts · 74d
So the bad harvest would have to happen sometime in the next few months or have already happened? That makes it seem even more unlikely.
silence7@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 74d
They don't get harvested then, but I think stockpiles will be empty then or sooner
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 74d
Why?
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 74d
How dare you interrupt a doomy anti-Trump rant with logic.
Brummbaer@pawb.social · 0 pts · 74d
Isn't that how winter wheat works.
edit: let me add an /s here, because I'm afraid people might not get that this is a joke.
Yliaster@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 74d
They're shameless
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 74d
If this administration could be humiliated they'd have been booted out his first term and never even been in the running again. And if not first term, certainly early last year. The writing has been on the wall for ages and everyone just keeps ignoring it.
The only way this war was going to end was either a huge escalation, or something like this. Hard to say if Trump will benefit in some way from whatever deal he made, but I he and his family have benefitted from the war already.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 73d
It's not over, not by a long shot, any memorandum of agreement on a framework to negotiate a ceasefire Israel style notwithstanding.
Israel isn't withdrawing from Lebanon for one thing. Who thinks they won't keep systematically wasting people and turn it into ghettos? The only question is if Iran will throw them under the bus and keep the straits open as Israel goes nazi on lebanon.
slickgoat@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 74d
Mock the old aging pedo all you want, but he did this all in your name whether you voted for him or not. It's an American humiliation as much as it is a Trump one.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 74d
It's definitely an american humilation but I don't see how people condemning him for a decade are "just as" anything as the pedophile.
slickgoat@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 73d
I'm not talking about individuals.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 73d
I mean every paycheck he gets another 25% of our money, idk im not doing anything about it either so yeah america sucks
itrealgood@mander.xyz · -15 pts · 73d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 73d
Yeah great point, got your jab in too.
itrealgood@mander.xyz · -9 pts · 73d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 73d
You're right. History isn't complicated, uR bAD is the hard truth.
itrealgood@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 73d
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 73d
Yes and I'm sure your leaders are pure as the driven snow. I bet your politicians suck too, and that you will follow us to fascism, soon. They might take away your high horse.
slickgoat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 73d
By no means are they pure, but dude, you could drive 60 tractors, side-by-side, between our version of a bad leader and your guy.
Guess what? You already know that too.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 73d
You say that, yet your leaders are selling you out as we speak. Just because they don't say dumb shit doesn't mean they aren't instituting chatcontrol, or it's evolution, age controls on social media.
Do you even live in reality?
slickgoat@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 73d
You are saying that from a libertarian perspective (or seem to). The Australian government's social media controls for children are very popular here as social media is very harmful to children.
You can't compare that to America bombing a girl's school and killing 174 children by your military, and in your country's name.
teyrnon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 72d
Just because people in Australia trust the wrong people, or less charitably are fucking stupid, doesn't mean they would support what is happening if they pulled their head out of the ass of the billionaires.
slickgoat@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 72d
If you are American, just read your own situation before lecturing anyone else. As far as I am aware, my country is having negligible negative effects to other countries. Your country is a blight upon civilisation.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 73d
Expected shitlibbery from The Atlantic.
Cagily? How tf is is "cagey" to link those two together?
I'll go even further: every military action taken by the US or Israel in the MENA region, from the Gulf War to the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan to the overthrow of the Syrian and Libyan governments to Israel's invasion of Palestine, Lebanon, etc, all of it is linked as part of a consistent plan to subjugate the entire region by force.
Good? Are you trying to turn me into an accelerationist?
No one should trust the Iranians? How about no one should trust the Americans, who launched this attack in the middle of negotiations?
No doubt the hawks at The Atlantic were jerking themselves off over the prospect of regime change from the moment the war started, but I don't think there was ever a clear "main goal."
Jesus fucking Christ! I wrote the previous line before I even got to this! They were, in fact, jerking off to the idea of regime change, and the only problem they have with Trump bombing schoolchildren is that he backed off! What a bunch of warmongering psychos!
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 74d
Peace deal lmao
The oil price going back up again is it?
raman_klogius@ani.social · 9 pts · 74d
We've gone from pyrrhic victory to trumpic victory. ✌️
WrathEnchanter@europe.pub · 7 pts · 74d
At least Pyrrhus did win bis battles
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 73d
Vietnam was a loss but they were the first to support the board of peace. Whatever the US are doing with Iran, it can all be deception.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 73d
The new classics.
breezeblock@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 74d
The whole corrupt lot are dumber than shit
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 73d
The Orange pedo is a complete failure. Just like his MAGAt followers.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 73d
Why won't it die already?! Fucking bag of lard and literal shit.
kreskin@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 73d
BS framing on this story. If trumps not lying, which is a big IF, its not an "iranian victory", its a victory for the planet, including for American citizens. The only losers here are fascist Israelis which pleases me to no end.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 73d
LPT: trump is lying