They're directly lobbying the government on a massive scale. They're looking for every opportunity to force their software on people buying any computer, like they always have. They're looking for every technical trick to screw the competition, and to extract more from their customers. Where it's possible (i.e. not LibreOffice) they're buying up any company that does threaten to successfully compete with them. They bought half the video game industry for example. They're buying their way into all the schools so kids grow up knowing nothing but the Microsoft life.
Excel is a wonderful piece of technology, the full capacity of which I don’t even come close to fully utilizing. I can appreciate that as a piece of art, but I can also get everything I need done in libreoffice calc and then I don’t have to support and rely on microsoft.
I've worked at some banks quite a few years ago and Excel was basically a cheap application space for them. The cells were inputs/outputs, they used VBA, and COM+ which talked to SQL to perform calculations and all that. It was really weird but every iteration that they wrote to replace Excel (they needed to because of banking auditing regulations) had failed simply due to the features they would get from it. It was wild to see at the time.
Chromebooks are taking over Windows PCs in public schools these days. I was only taught how to use Windows PCs when I was a kid in school, though. 90s/00s.
Arguably worse. Google does all kinds of sneaky things. Kids end up learning software without file management skills (like at all). This makes it very difficult to leave their apps and if they do it’ll be to to 365, maybe iCloud, not libreoffice.
Microsoft made sure the definition of a "Canadian company" is based on the number of employees in Canada so they qualify for those contracts. No joke. I want to RFP something besides PowerBI and all the little open source shops don't qualify. Microsoft does.
As they realized in Europe, Microsoft will turn data over to the US govt if requested, so using it on sensitive systems should be seen as a bigger security threat than some video app.
Yup, doesn't matter where the data centres are - a contract is only as trustworthy as the person or company you signed it with. Throwing all your government and medical and everything else docs on somebody else's computer with a "trust me bro" privacy statement seems like a recipe for disaster.
"Oh no, we did our job so incredibly terribly that people are trying new things! And sticking with them! Quick, let's use our wealth to crush the competition!"
Ah yes because they fear losing the ability to charge annual and monthly subscriptions for their spyware. And no MSFT for the 30th time I don’t want to try Copilot just like I didn’t want to deal with that ho Cortana you pimped out before.
I remember when microsoft office 365 was a thing for college students and the free version that everyone used had 80% access to the programs with, "some features," grayed out in drop down menus.
Hey, I noticed you wrote something and it's been a few minutes, you should backup the comment before I accidentally shutdown for whatever the fuck reason. I mean, I could do it, but I'm spying on your ass, you know, kinda bussy yeah. Oh you just read the first three words... Ok that's enough, let's shut down this beacho.
Oh good up! Yeah ok save as! Give me a name to save your comment as.... Comment_1.TXT! Genius! Okay! Let's browse! Yeah I don't know where the fuck you want this file! Certainly not gonna offer the last place you seved files at! That would be stupid! OK so browser? Good choice! Ok, how about documents, comments! Excellent choice may man! Give me a name to save your comment as.... Nah, fuck I forgot about whatever you typed before browsing... If you hit cancel, I may put that back so you can copy it, browse back here and paste. It's difficult! I'm not a fucking comp.... Comment_1.txt! Good job! Would you like to save then? Hey, it's been 5 minutes! Of fuck this! I'm turning off your monitor and guess what power state the rest of this biacho is at. Nah! Not wiggle the mouse state! Nah! The screen power button, nah that's not either! Nope, it's not any key! Yup! Its the power on button kind of power state! Hey! Welcome back asshole! Here is a forest picture! Did you know AI is being used by "scientits" in scientitic ways to bring back the woolly mamal? Yeah! Scientits have found an infitine cure for canzer in mice! And the all mighty orange turd, he's fixing pools aga... Oh you wanna login? What's your username? Oh Fred? Don't know any Fred! Here's a monkey! Did you know sciebtits are using AI to fix the monkey? With AI anything is possible. Look at all that water that money is swimming in! I could use that wate.... Oh! Welcome Fred@thiscomputer.com! Nah that's not the password! Hey! Here's a dog! If you use Microsoft AI, you can teach this bog mew trinks! Oh high Fred! Getting things ready for you! This update will only take 3 days! No, 30 minutes! No! 5 seconds! We're almost there! Yeah hey! What file name would you like to save this comment as?
I used to love windows. Lots of good games played on it. AOL. Fun other little programs.
They've really taken the soul out of it over the last decade or so. Not sure if it's the CEO or upper management but I main Linux now and I doubt I'd go back even if they improved their base OS.
The thing is, if this meant anything it would've shut down LibreOffice years ago. It's not illegal to be in the likeness of something. Look at Fender Bass Guitars and Sadowsky Bass Guitars. Sadowsky is in the likeness of Fender and they're indirect competition. The difference is, is that Fender isn't a baby about it.
Microslop is just fucking butthurt that people don't want to pay to read documents.
I want to also add, if it were illegal to be off brand and have the same function, there wouldn't be store brands. They're losing money, big shit, they're the name brand, they'll recoup their losses.
While I don't doubt their lobbying includes anti-Linux themes, there was no specific info in OP's link. It looks like they are spamming every branch of government with corporate crap at all times.
Lmfao Save the installation file while you can. I love LibreOffice. Shit's saved me so much time and money. Not gonna lie it's fucking scummy to begin with to lock the main document reading program of the operating system itself and forcing users to pay an annual service fee while the program itself runs like total shit and notoriously has ran like shit since XP. That's 6 major OS changes later and it's still shit. 24 years later since microsoft office became shit and ...... it's still shit
LibreOffice, is what Microsoft Office should be and they hate it. 🖕 microsoft
60 Comments
kbal@fedia.io · 99 pts · 59d
They're directly lobbying the government on a massive scale. They're looking for every opportunity to force their software on people buying any computer, like they always have. They're looking for every technical trick to screw the competition, and to extract more from their customers. Where it's possible (i.e. not LibreOffice) they're buying up any company that does threaten to successfully compete with them. They bought half the video game industry for example. They're buying their way into all the schools so kids grow up knowing nothing but the Microsoft life.
I mean what else would they do? It's Microsoft.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 59d
Excel is a wonderful piece of technology, the full capacity of which I don’t even come close to fully utilizing. I can appreciate that as a piece of art, but I can also get everything I need done in libreoffice calc and then I don’t have to support and rely on microsoft.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 58d
I've worked at some banks quite a few years ago and Excel was basically a cheap application space for them. The cells were inputs/outputs, they used VBA, and COM+ which talked to SQL to perform calculations and all that. It was really weird but every iteration that they wrote to replace Excel (they needed to because of banking auditing regulations) had failed simply due to the features they would get from it. It was wild to see at the time.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 58d
I did some pretty amazing things with Excel and VBA in the day.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 57d
I made a whole CRM in Google sheets once, with appscript and an animated dancing badger Easter egg
CaperGrrl79@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 58d
Or OnlyOffice, but there are problematic elements. Then again, what doesn't have that these days?
RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 59d
Chromebooks are taking over Windows PCs in public schools these days. I was only taught how to use Windows PCs when I was a kid in school, though. 90s/00s.
kbal@fedia.io · 42 pts · 59d
Yeah. Not exactly an improvement, is it.
BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 59d
Arguably worse. Google does all kinds of sneaky things. Kids end up learning software without file management skills (like at all). This makes it very difficult to leave their apps and if they do it’ll be to to 365, maybe iCloud, not libreoffice.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 59d
Hit them with an anti-trust suit!
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 58d
Again
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 58d
Anutha one!
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 59d
Speaking of video games. I heard they were closing down ID Software, among other studios.
Canajan@piefed.ca · 65 pts · 59d
As a matter of national security we need to move our digital services to Canadian platforms, or platforms other than Microsoft.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 59d
Microsoft made sure the definition of a "Canadian company" is based on the number of employees in Canada so they qualify for those contracts. No joke. I want to RFP something besides PowerBI and all the little open source shops don't qualify. Microsoft does.
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 59d
Yes, yes, and yes. Microslop has shown they will “accidentally” leak stuff if you threaten to move so governments should move.
LostWon@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 59d
As they realized in Europe, Microsoft will turn data over to the US govt if requested, so using it on sensitive systems should be seen as a bigger security threat than some video app.
brax@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 58d
Yup, doesn't matter where the data centres are - a contract is only as trustworthy as the person or company you signed it with. Throwing all your government and medical and everything else docs on somebody else's computer with a "trust me bro" privacy statement seems like a recipe for disaster.
Lectral@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 58d
Canadian is good. Open-source would be better.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 59d
and*
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 61 pts · 59d
"Oh no, we did our job so incredibly terribly that people are trying new things! And sticking with them! Quick, let's use our wealth to crush the competition!"
9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 59d
Thats a perfectly valid and logical strategy for a business...
I'm more mad that our politicians fall for it and allow an anti-competitve environment, >:(
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 33 pts · 59d
Oh they didn't fall for it. They personally received perks, I'm convinced.
j5y7@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 58d
In my country we call them bribes.
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 58d
That’s capitalism for you baby
Zephorah@discuss.online · 52 pts · 59d
This is the part where you find out if your government officials even know what Linux and Libre are.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 31 pts · 59d
They don't.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 59d
That's like in that dinosaur movie, right? This is a linux system! Ha ha
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 58d
It was Unix, but close enough. I doubt most government officials know the difference
Zorque@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 58d
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BCsven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 58d
🤓 Its the interwebs you have to be clear these days with all the rewriting of history the US is trying to do.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 58d
There's only so much overexplainong of jokes I can do before I start getting nosebleeds.
Its a hereditary condition.
GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 58d
Ah yes because they fear losing the ability to charge annual and monthly subscriptions for their spyware. And no MSFT for the 30th time I don’t want to try Copilot just like I didn’t want to deal with that ho Cortana you pimped out before.
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 58d
Clippy, did they not learn their lesson in 95?
Officer_Pickles@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 57d
I to remember him.
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 58d
They are clueless, aren't they?
brax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 58d
Not to mention that it feels like Microslop only makes Copilot vibecoded slopware.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 57d
My favorite was when I spent a few hours disabling all their shit and an update brought it all back.
Stampy@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 59d
I hope our officials are taking notice what Europeans are doing.
f1error@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 59d
Narrator: They didn't notice.
Dwayne_Elizondo_Mountain_Dew_Camacho@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 58d
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 27 pts · 59d
Yes Microslop keep showing me your despair, bleed it out as much as you can and show everyone that you are a parasite we don't need, dew it!
numeral_paver555@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 59d
It's alarming what they are lobbying about. But is there an indication in the page specific to Linux or LibreOffice?
brax@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 58d
Remember when the world wasn't fucked up and Microsoft got spanked just for including IE in the OS? Look at the shit these fucks get away with now.
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 57d
I remember when microsoft office 365 was a thing for college students and the free version that everyone used had 80% access to the programs with, "some features," grayed out in drop down menus.
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 58d
"Our monopoly is providing so little value for consumers that they've started to make the products for themselves!"
altphoto@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 57d
Hey, I noticed you wrote something and it's been a few minutes, you should backup the comment before I accidentally shutdown for whatever the fuck reason. I mean, I could do it, but I'm spying on your ass, you know, kinda bussy yeah. Oh you just read the first three words... Ok that's enough, let's shut down this beacho.
Oh good up! Yeah ok save as! Give me a name to save your comment as.... Comment_1.TXT! Genius! Okay! Let's browse! Yeah I don't know where the fuck you want this file! Certainly not gonna offer the last place you seved files at! That would be stupid! OK so browser? Good choice! Ok, how about documents, comments! Excellent choice may man! Give me a name to save your comment as.... Nah, fuck I forgot about whatever you typed before browsing... If you hit cancel, I may put that back so you can copy it, browse back here and paste. It's difficult! I'm not a fucking comp.... Comment_1.txt! Good job! Would you like to save then? Hey, it's been 5 minutes! Of fuck this! I'm turning off your monitor and guess what power state the rest of this biacho is at. Nah! Not wiggle the mouse state! Nah! The screen power button, nah that's not either! Nope, it's not any key! Yup! Its the power on button kind of power state! Hey! Welcome back asshole! Here is a forest picture! Did you know AI is being used by "scientits" in scientitic ways to bring back the woolly mamal? Yeah! Scientits have found an infitine cure for canzer in mice! And the all mighty orange turd, he's fixing pools aga... Oh you wanna login? What's your username? Oh Fred? Don't know any Fred! Here's a monkey! Did you know sciebtits are using AI to fix the monkey? With AI anything is possible. Look at all that water that money is swimming in! I could use that wate.... Oh! Welcome Fred@thiscomputer.com! Nah that's not the password! Hey! Here's a dog! If you use Microsoft AI, you can teach this bog mew trinks! Oh high Fred! Getting things ready for you! This update will only take 3 days! No, 30 minutes! No! 5 seconds! We're almost there! Yeah hey! What file name would you like to save this comment as?
Brownie@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 59d
One of them is just called Bigot?? Figures
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 57d
Have they tried making a product that isn't shit?
TomAwsm@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 57d
The sad part is, I think they have...
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 12 pts · 59d
I used to love windows. Lots of good games played on it. AOL. Fun other little programs.
They've really taken the soul out of it over the last decade or so. Not sure if it's the CEO or upper management but I main Linux now and I doubt I'd go back even if they improved their base OS.
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 57d
The thing is, if this meant anything it would've shut down LibreOffice years ago. It's not illegal to be in the likeness of something. Look at Fender Bass Guitars and Sadowsky Bass Guitars. Sadowsky is in the likeness of Fender and they're indirect competition. The difference is, is that Fender isn't a baby about it.
Microslop is just fucking butthurt that people don't want to pay to read documents.
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
I want to also add, if it were illegal to be off brand and have the same function, there wouldn't be store brands. They're losing money, big shit, they're the name brand, they'll recoup their losses.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 57d
Has Libreoffice or Linux profitted off of Genocide like Microsoft has? No? Why are you using Microsoft then?
nik282000@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 59d
While I don't doubt their lobbying includes anti-Linux themes, there was no specific info in OP's link. It looks like they are spamming every branch of government with corporate crap at all times.
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 57d
Lmfao Save the installation file while you can. I love LibreOffice. Shit's saved me so much time and money. Not gonna lie it's fucking scummy to begin with to lock the main document reading program of the operating system itself and forcing users to pay an annual service fee while the program itself runs like total shit and notoriously has ran like shit since XP. That's 6 major OS changes later and it's still shit. 24 years later since microsoft office became shit and ...... it's still shit
LibreOffice, is what Microsoft Office should be and they hate it. 🖕 microsoft
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 57d
hilariously bonkers, especially considering MS has it's own Linux distro now.
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 57d
It's fedora driven
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 57d
Is it? that's even more funny somehow. From linux is a cancer to fedora.... what a joke
Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 57d
Well to be faire Cracking both Office and Windows is easy as F so meh. Let the capitalists lobby, we've got bigger problems