If pieces of a haunted house are all replaced ship of Theseus style, would the ghosts go away?

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DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 79 pts · 43d

In the immortal words of Stan Lee. "It's a story, it depends on what the writer decides."

warbond@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 43d (6 replies)

What if they're haunting the physical location and not just the building? I'll have to check the ghost handbook.

qualia@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 43d (3 replies)

If the ghosts are of ded contemporary physicists they're probably haunting the region of space that our solar system occupied in the galaxy when they died.

Erusset@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 42d (1 reply)

So mostly floating in space

arrow74@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 41d

Moon's haunted

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 42d

Depends what reference frame they died in. If it's inertial, they'll be in an orbit, and will spend most of their time falling through the Earth's deep interior. Occasionally, they'll surface.

Moral: Don't be a physicist.

MycelialMass@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 43d

Let me know what you find

Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 43d

If you dig the location up enough do they leave or haunt it more? Just sort of angrily floating where the ground used to be?

tacotroubles@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 43d (1 reply)

It depends on how quickly each piece is replaced. It takes some time for the ghost to attach to new boatds and beams. And thats of course not considering haunted indian burial grounds, creepy mirrors or goth chicks moving in, that yhrows the calculations way off.

neo2478@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 42d

I mean goth chicks moving in would likely accelerate the attachment rate by 100 fold for horny teenage boy ghosts, but likely increase the attachment time by 1000 fold for old widow ghosts.

KaChilde@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 43d (3 replies)

New ghost busting method: just keep replacing floorboards one at a time until you find the one that the ghost is attached to, then send it to landfill.

snooggums@piefed.world · 9 pts · 43d (2 replies)

Landfills must be full of angry ghosts from demolished buildings.

Tangent5280@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Build an entire new home all out of materials from previous haunted houses with ghosts attached to them and have them brawl it out battle royale style. Every nail, Every board, Every strut should come with a ghost.

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 42d

I actually love this idea as the big boss for a paranormal investigation table top. Have the villain of the story build a haunted mansion out if stollen ghosts.

spiderhamster@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 42d (1 reply)

I heard a ghost story about a college dorm that caught on fire and burned to the ground. The school rebuilt it but the floors were spaced differently so the ghost would appear at the old floor's level. So half a ghost popping up through the floor or little ghost legs popping down for the ceiling.

It seems to me that ghost location is relative to sea level. Maybe they attach to the closest neat rock in the case of a fire. Anyway, tumbling them for several weeks seems to detach the ghosts because my rock collection shows no signs of apparitions.

deltapi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d

It seems to me that ghost location is relative to sea level.

Do you know if they use Swiss or German sea level?

gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 11 pts · 42d

ghosts are like fungus in the timber, sure you can replace every part one-by-one and they go away, but miss one and the smell won't go out and re-infect the whole house. so it's not really worth it.

neo2478@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 42d (1 reply)

If you give the new pieces enough marinating time for the ghosts to penetrate them, then no. Of course marination time depends on the density of the material you are replacing and potency of the ghost.

For example, a hardwood floor with a benign Casper like presence probably will need a few centuries, whereas insulation foam with something more akin to the demon from the exorcist needs a few weeks. Times and temperatures will also vary by altitude and local climate and alignment to laylines.

Allero@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 42d

Professional ghostbuster right there

llamapocalypse@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Are they attached to the physical house or to the idea of the house?

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 42d

And do we see Platonic ghosts themselves, or just their shadow?

aldhissla@piefed.world · 8 pts · 42d

No. Ghosts are bound by contract to the screening shooting location, not the props.

TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 6 pts · 43d (2 replies)

It depends on the type of haunting, and also what's keeping them there. In my experience they could be attached to anything from an entire room to a single item, like a matchbook. In any case usually a good fire and total demolition of said location would be best.

daggermoon@piefed.world · 4 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Please tell us about your experience.

TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 2 pts · 42d

Ohh I don't like to talk shop off hours. Maybe another time

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 42d

Depends. Did you replace the hidden summoning place or the Indian burial ground, too?

DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 42d (3 replies)

Ghost stories are about haunted and damaged people. Not actual ghosts. So no, the individual/s being haunted would still be haunted.

gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org · 4 pts · 42d (1 reply)

ghost stories are mostly about microorganisms that people couldn't see before microscopes were invented.

crank0271@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d

I'm sure some are about carbon monoxide.

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

Most ghost stories I've read have been about haunted places and haunted things

uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 41d

According to the (more sciencey) haunt investigation shows, most haunty effects are from old plumbing, inappropriately shielded magnetic fields, air pressure, and so on.

So if you fix all the problems in the process of replacing the house, such as modernizing the electrical wiring, then yeah, the venue will become less haunted.

If, however, you fail to remove the bodies, proverbially or otherwise, you'll just piss off the ghosts.

Nurgus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 41d

According to the documentary "Ghosts", the inhabitants of Button House are unable to leave the area. Despite some of tfem predating the house.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 42d (4 replies)

No, they are haunting the location, not just the house.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 42d (3 replies)

Does this mean if you die on a moving vehicle, your haunting spot keeps on moving in whatever direction?

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 41d (2 replies)

I think it actually depends on the ghost. Like if you replace part of the car, it will still haunt it. But if you replace all the parts at once, the car will be significantly less haunted.

Similary, if you rebuild a building to be similar, but not quite same, the place is still haunted. But if you like build a mall, it would be significantly less haunted.

diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 41d (1 reply)

Replace all the parts at once

AKA buying a new one?

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 40d

Only if you junk the old one in the same place. /s

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Sissyphus's boulder rolled down and demolished that house, is Sissyphus happy?

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 42d (1 reply)

One must imagine Sisyphus happy, the haunted house of Theseus was really driving down property values.

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

at least the area is still connected with public transport. the trolley service is great, hopefully no one ties anyone on the rails.

notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 42d (2 replies)

There are no ghosts.

deltapi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 41d (1 reply)

Isn't that exactly what a ghost would say?! 😯

notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 41d

You’re right. Booooooooooooooooo!

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 pts · 42d

Maybe... Depends on how you believe in ghosts. Some beliefs say wood can hold the spirits, so if that's what you think I imagine replacing the ghost filled wood would remove the ghosts.

If you don't believe in ghosts at all, well, then this is kind of a weird thing to ask. 🤷‍♂️

Novaboros@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 42d

I had an interesting experience in an abandoned residential school I broke into with my friends when I was a teenager. The first time I went, we broke down the barricades nailed over the windows, and once inside found it to be full of old classroom stuff. There were tons of spooky moments we all collectively shared from that night (feeling like someone was watching us from different class rooms, a dense and fearful energy in the cages found in the basement, a super ominous feeling in the small crawlspace, and voices heard in hallways etc) I decided to return with my friends after about 6 times, but the second time around it would seem far more people broke in, a lot more barriers were torn down, a lot of classroom items taken. that second time none of the intense energies seemed to be there,.almost like the place hollowed out I'm not sure obviously if it was just Me less scared of the place coming back the second time, but I do feel like I have some extra sensory perception, and it was honestly really interesting to feel the difference in vibes, almost like when more people entered and took more stuff, the energies left through the open windows and broken down doors along with them.

Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 42d (1 reply)

crimson_iris@piefed.social · 1 pts · 42d

They're facing ghosts where the others will not.

InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 42d (8 replies)

Since ghosts aren't real and were never there to begin with, they can't really "go away", so I'm going to say no.

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 42d

Boooo

kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 42d (6 replies)

You're boring

Ephera@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 42d (5 replies)

OP should've posted to !shittyasklemmy@lemmy.ml, if they want meme answers. If they want a factual answer, then "ghosts don't exist" is that.

neo2478@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Or one can take it as a nice though experiment, despite the non existence of ghosts. It can be a fun question to answer that way, without it being a shitty one.

MycelialMass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d

Thats how I thought of it, i dont actually believe in ghosts lol

greenbit@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Maybe people just confuse extradimensional beings as ghosts

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Extradimesional is literally just a more sciency-sounding way of saying "the spirit world", with all the exact same tropes involved.

So, extradimensional beings don't exist.

greenbit@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 41d

Ah we have a denier. You'll see :)

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 42d

You'd probaly have to ask a ghost for that.

MrOtingocni@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

No, they get stronger as they modernize.

Just wait until they figure out how to get on the wifi.

quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 41d

It depends on what you do with the replaced pieces. If you rebuild the house somewhere else the ghost might go there. Or maybe the ghost gets split between the two houses. Or it goes back and forth. Or... I don't know, which one is the old house?

Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 41d (1 reply)

I own the axe that George Washington used to chop down the cherry tree. Of course I’ve had to replace the handle. And the head. But it occupies the same space.

nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 41d

is this a sneaky John Dies at the End reference?

ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d

Ghosts have to go somewhere, so you have to rebuild the original house to lure them away

tigermountain@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d (2 replies)

Probably not, because when one piece gets replaced the ghosts in the surrounding pieces inhabit the new piece before another piece can be replaced.

Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 42d (1 reply)

Turns out ghosts were just termites all along.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 42d

Grossest episode of Scooby-Doo yet.

x264@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d

They will haunt whoever replaces the parts

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 42d

If there were a phone in the house, who ya gonna call?

Sabata11792@ani.social · 2 pts · 41d

Would a court order for the ghost to vacate a property work? Assuming there not a libertarian.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 42d

depends the type of haunting if its tied to the place, then replacing it wont matter, if its a poltergeist that also wont do anything. unless its specific to the house materials then yes.

anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d

No, they’d throw a huge as party happy to have new digs.

AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 41d

Unfortunately as long as the idea of the haunted house persists, you'll have to keep dealing with the nonsense.

HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 41d

no but the elves and fairies would get banished back to their lands.

mlg@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d

Merasmus is that you?

Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d

Yes.

khepri@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d

With the caveat that this is all make-believe, it seems like your typical ghost is anchored to a location, not some specific piece of wood or plaster within that location that could be replaced thus "removing" the ghost. They are well known for passing through physical matter as if it weren't there, so the idea that they would be somehow pegged to a specific piece of physical matter doesn't seem right. Ghosts are also known for haunting things are newly built on the site of old haunted houses or graveyards, which also points to not being able to dissolve ghosts simply by destroying or altering the physical area around the site of the haunting. Thanks for coming to my lecture lol.

TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 1 pts · 43d
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