- They have been found to have been altering the contents of the archived articles.
- They have DDoSed a server using our browsers when we visit their site
- Wikipedia has blacklisted it
- It's DNS is banned widely
Guidance published ... asked editors to help remove and replace links to the following domain names used by the archive site: archive.today, archive.is, archive.ph, archive.fo, archive.li, archive.md, and archive.vn. The guidance says editors can remove Archive.today links when the original source is still online and has identical content;
Recommended alternatives include: Internet Archive Ghostarchive Megalodon
The Wikipedia guidance points out that the Internet Archive and its website, Archive.org, are “uninvolved with and entirely separate from archive.today.” The Internet Archive is a nonprofit based in the US.
25 Comments
mp3@lemmy.ca · 63 pts · 39d
It's a bit sad, because archive.org is unable to capture some websites that archive.is is able to.
So you either get an imperfect host that is able to capture it (with a dubious integrity record), or you have a void where some stuff cannot be archived and you end up with a void.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 39d
In these cases I still consider archive.is (etc.) to be better than nothing. Also, the fact that archive.org is based in the USA is a concern. It could be forced to censor or delete content, or even be forcibly shut down.
antonim@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 39d
As opposed to all the other countries that can't censor and delete content or shut websites down?
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 39d
It's a question of the political climate in the countries. The USA is a bit extreme at the moment.
Serinus@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 39d
Compared to?
For many of the people I talk to, that can be assumed. Here, however...
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 39d
Agreed. Being unable to get important info to people could be a bigger problem which is why I'd probably keep using them.
_fryerDan@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 39d
misinformation is not better than nothing if youre an idiot. dummies and noobs will take the info as fact
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 38d
indeed, there are many blacklisted/non-viewable urls in the wayback machine sadly. and it really doesn't work well with dynamic js-based paged
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social · 6 pts · 39d
I've found https://megalodon.jp/ to work similarly. Japanese site, and has some quirks with how large of a page it will archive before only saving a screenshot, but it works.
antonim@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 39d
.is uses some techniques to circumvent paywalls, whereas .org just accesses the site normally. I hope a competitor to .is will show up at some point.
Manjushri@piefed.social · 12 pts · 39d
I user Firefox with a handful of extensions including Bypass Paywalls Clean, NoScript, und uBllock Origin. I seem to breeze past a lot of paywalls. I base that on threads here where people are complaining about paywalls blocking them that I don't see.
Sometimes, when a site throws a Subscribe box up to block me from reading/scrolling on the sight, I can use the uBlock element zapper to delete it and read the article. The only ones that really get me are the ones that only load a paragraph or two unless you log in.
kamenlady@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 39d
I have encountered this effect specifically with guardian.com. While i never had a paywall on that site, i often get the "paywall" comment when i post something on guardian.com.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 39d
They have a 30 articles a month limit even if you're logged in now, at least for me
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 38d
still, .is uses actual credentials to bypass hard paywalls for many news websites, which bpc-clean can't
QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 39d
I would recommend that everyone search their own comment/post history and try to replace any archive[dot]is/ph/today links with something else.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 39d
Are they all ran by the same nutter?
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 38d
it's just different domains for the same service to evade dns poisoning
magnetosphere@fedia.io · 6 pts · 39d
In what way? (I’m not trying to start an argument or defend them; I’m just curious).
LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 39d
Serinus@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 39d
A bit easier to read,
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 39d
I suspected something was off when I literally could not load any archive.is website for the past year due to infinite recaptcha loops
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 39d
That’s more just Google not liking you.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 39d
That’s definitely true, but I haven’t experienced it anywhere else 🤷 I can’t explain it, I was simply suspicious
lightlybutteredtoast@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 39d
Might these things be related? https://www.404media.co/fbi-tries-to-unmask-owner-of-infamous-archive-is-site/
Ironically, I had to bypass the paywall using archive.is
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 38d
This sentence does some heavy lifting:
The niche filled by archive.is is for bypassing paywalls, which is the only reason not to use the internet archive's wayback machine in the first place.
The only reason the operator of archive.is can get away with all his abuses is because most of the world can't or won't pay to have access to information required to be part of the global discussion.