They keep them grouped together though. If you look closely, they're in the same bubble while firefox is in another one. Probably shows both for the convenience of most devs.
(also Microsoft being Microsoft might shoehorn in some feature no other normal browser would just because)
By the way, if you want to replicate this effect for fun and profit, the control character you're searching for is U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE (or RLO for short)
There ought to be some kind of 2016 css subset that everyone sticks to and then we can reconsider maybe updating it to include any newer stuff that's absolutely essential once every ten years.
Expecting the runtime/browser to ship a native implementation of virtually everything you might want to do in a turing-complete language, is also really not sustainable, though.
I don't believe, you should expect all browsers to implement all new web features in under a year.
It takes time, like new C++ or C standarts.
An like with all other standarts, the more parties are involved the more time it takes to adopt it.
58 Comments
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 161 pts · 32d
You can’t count chrome and edge as two different browsers…
Xylight@lemdro.id · 72 pts · 32d
MDN does, not my decision
mamg22@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 32d
They keep them grouped together though. If you look closely, they're in the same bubble while firefox is in another one. Probably shows both for the convenience of most devs.
(also Microsoft being Microsoft might shoehorn in some feature no other normal browser would just because)
LytiaNP@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 32d
I think they're in the same bubble because they both support the feature
Mubelotix@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 31d
Happy cake day !
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 31d
It's actually Google doing that these days, but they do it on webkit directly and so everything but Firefox gets their experiments too.
lastweakness@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 30d
Chromium (or blink), not webkit
vogi@piefed.social · 9 pts · 32d
they are grouped and as they are different browsers that theoretically could have different blink versions I feel like it makes sense.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 32d
The people who use MDN for their work need to though
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 32d
You know what still works? HTML tables.
Suck it, all of the 2000s webdev.
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 38 pts · 32d
What's worse than div soup? Table ware.
Redjard@reddthat.com · 23 pts · 32d
Even apple phones added flexbox support in like 2022.
Flexbox spam is the new tables.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 32d
2022? That's in the future
Serinus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d
Right? What year is your org up to?
Feel free to answer in terms of OS or framework version.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 32d
Last website I built used no CSS or JavaScript
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 32d
Living in a future utopia
Randelung@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 32d
AngularJS
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 4 pts · 32d
God damn it I’m getting old. I had to seriously reconsider and reparse 2022 like nine times.
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 6 pts · 32d
oh no
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 32d
Anyway
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 32d
Don't forget to add
role="none"for accessibility.csolisr@hub.azkware.net · 60 pts · 32d
...Did you add an unescaped RTL toggle character on your user name?
csolisr@hub.azkware.net · 39 pts · 32d
For the record, I noticed because I use Friendica:
Scoopta@programming.dev · 30 pts · 32d
Jeroba only flips the instance domain, that is way more wild
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 32d
Yay I am in screenshot
plateee@piefed.social · 22 pts · 32d
What's it like being famous? 🤩
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 32d
Meh
squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi · 7 pts · 32d
📸
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 31d
Voyager just ignores it
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 30d
Voyager shows username, he probably changed display name
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 30d
No issues in Thunder.
I have display names turned off, though.
Scoopta@programming.dev · 1 pts · 30d
It's probably in the display name, not the username so that would make sense. Would be interesting to know what happens if display names are on
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 29d
Turns out it looks the same. Wait, something is still wrong. I turned the setting on, but I still don't see display names. Oh well.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 32d
Nice
Xylight@lemdro.id · 31 pts · 32d
i do remember doing that a long time ago
hirihit640@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 32d
Doing QA testing for free? You and lil bobby tables would get along great
PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 32d
I strongly think Lemmy clients should have a toggle to show usernames instead of display names. Some of the Unicode is super obnoxious.
DarkSirrush@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 32d
Some Lemmy clients like summit do (which I keep on, because display names are often cancer)
csolisr@hub.azkware.net · 6 pts · 32d
And now you're about to nerd-snipe me into checking if control characters are valid for user names in ActivityPub
Xylight@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 32d
There's probably some restrictions because I tried making an instance that had a user with a completely empty username and it didn't federate.
HypnoticSheep@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
Connect lets you filter out the Unicode into a-z, which is nice
csolisr@hub.azkware.net · 16 pts · 32d
By the way, if you want to replicate this effect for fun and profit, the control character you're searching for is U+202E RIGHT-TO-LEFT OVERRIDE (or RLO for short)
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 31d
</span></div>kbal@fedia.io · 28 pts · 32d
There ought to be some kind of 2016 css subset that everyone sticks to and then we can reconsider maybe updating it to include any newer stuff that's absolutely essential once every ten years.
Xylight@lemdro.id · 23 pts · 32d
that mentality is one reason websites spam JavaScript today, because native features of the markup language were being added too slow
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 32d
Expecting the runtime/browser to ship a native implementation of virtually everything you might want to do in a turing-complete language, is also really not sustainable, though.
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 4 pts · 32d
Something like C/C++ does? JS16, JS20, JS24?
zitrone@europe.pub · 19 pts · 31d
I don't believe, you should expect all browsers to implement all new web features in under a year. It takes time, like new C++ or C standarts. An like with all other standarts, the more parties are involved the more time it takes to adopt it.
mkwt@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 31d
Haha, one year? How quaint. (Cries into ISO C++ standards)
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 31d
Just don't create such a mess that you need cutting-edge features.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 32d
Progressive enhancement is a cool thing
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 32d
That's like wanting to use a just standardized media format.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 3 pts · 31d
Windows native support for MKV (2002) and HEVC (2013): 2019
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 32d
Thank god for tailwind templates wouldn't get anywhere without them
ytg@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 31d
As if modern websites care about Firefox
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 31d
As if
modernwebsites care about Firefoxdrath@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 27d
Pretty much anything you might ever wanna do with a website, can be done with IE8 support. Rest is skill issue.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 31d
We used to have HTML+ and be happy!
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 32d