::: spoiler Transcript Screenshot of Octopi Package Manager installed on CachyOS (previously the default before being replaced by Shelly). OP has searched for microsoft-edge. No results are returned.
OP has drawn a circle around a button in the image of an alien head with an arrow pointing to it. Under the arrow is “????”.
Caption at the bottom of the image reads: “Microsoft edge and google chrome don’t show up in neither of cachyos’ software stores out of the box. On octopi you can make it show up by pressing the weird alien head icon. “Mysteriously” firefox shows up on both stores immediately without clicking any obscure buttons. This is either extremely terrible i design or a deliberate sabotage attempt against microsoft and google from loonix devs, possibly sponsored by mozilla.”
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Context:
OP is an idiot because these browsers would not be available due to restrictions required by Microsoft and Google to share their software, which is why nothing shows up when searching the installed repositories. Note that Chromium, the base for Edge and Chrome is available on the default repository.
The alien head icon searches the AUR (Arch User Repository) a place for users to add packages, often mirrored from GitHub, which would show Edge and Chrome as a user has ported it over unofficially. Because the AUR consists of unofficial packages, it is not part of the default repositories, and requires additional confirmation before installation.
Note that when installing from the AUR, it is always important to read what you are compiling as packages are not checked for malicious code. See recent news regarding compromised packages that weren’t maintained.
92 Comments
richardisaguy@lemmy.world · 224 pts · 18d
This is funny as shit
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 18d
Guess we’re already at the point where people make up wild conspiracy theories just to criticize Firefox.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 31 pts · 18d
Always have been 🔫
The kind of bullshit I've seen here on Lemmy alone.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 18d
Because it's a circlejerk sub. It's meant to be funny
rtxn@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 18d
Some of those loonies absolutely believe what they preach. Even if it means disregarding objective reality and engaging in fallacies like they're a safety blanket. They're the flat Earthers of the Unix-like world, and some of them much worse.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -22 pts · 18d
You're proving them right.
rtxn@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 18d
For a chronic contrarian, I'm sure it looks like that.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 18d
Calling someone a contrarian just because they disagree with you?
Lad that's not healthy
passenger@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 18d
It's not, check it out...
richardisaguy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 18d
How much did mozilla pay you to say that?
null@piefed.nullspace.lol · 119 pts · 18d
You'll notice another blatant act of sabotage: LibreOffice is easy to find but Word is nowhere to be found.
Tetsuo@jlai.lu · 26 pts · 18d
Did you know ?
OpenOffice is a firewall product !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F011hLZHZrM
For context it is a french lawmakers casually explaining that OpenOffice has a firewall... And other random bullshit.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 18d
Well I mean fire bad…
Dultas@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18d
Money gooood
osanna@lemmy.vg · 3 pts · 18d
LINE GO UP!
northernlights@lemmy.today · 73 pts · 18d
Dude installs Linux, 1st reflex is to try to install Edge. Dude is completely lost and should get a mac if he's tired of Windows, so it decides everything for him.
BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16d
Tbf Edge is quite a bit faster on Linux than on Windows for whatever reason.
onipa@feddit.org · 1 pts · 12d
but chromium is probably even faster. Edge is full of microslop ads and to set a empty new tab/page you need to install a plug-in (what???). Anyway this probably is rage bait anyway
LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub · 72 pts · 18d
Another example of how FOSS contains dark patterns and uses anti-competitive practices against big tech. Typical. /s
marighost@piefed.social · 60 pts · 18d
What mental gymnastics does one have to do to come to that conclusion?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 29 pts · 18d
Going to the Microsoft gym for all their life
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 18d
Believing a circlejerk sub is insane isn't it.
passenger@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 18d
Until you find out it's not one.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 18d
Reminds me of a post I saw on here the other day.
Of course there’s always that “lol I’m just joking” until the joke becomes the new reality, but this ain’t it
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 18d
I mean I'd assume anyone calling it "loonix" is circlejerking
tourist@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 18d
oh dear lord
what was his defense when presented with the concept of a software license
I'm too scared to look
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 18d
I'm looking at the top posts this week.
It's a circlejerk sub.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 18d
There's a nugget of truth here.
Linux distros require some understanding of underlying subsystems.
Windows... in theory, does not. From AverageUser9000's perspective, they can hit the Windows key, type "Google Chrome," and install it, while on linux it's not immediately obvious why it doesn't. You'd have to look up documentation on linux repos, 3rd party repos, containerized stores, and... now you've just lost the interest of 99% of the population.
I'm not saying AverageUser9000 isn't a moron, but I kind of sympathize too. We are effectively linux experts, and:
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 18d
Oh I definitely don’t disagree with you. There’s a learning curve to be had. Part of that is just the UX of Linux (and the differing UIs), but I think the other part is straight up education.
Apple early on adopted the strategy of giving computers to schools to get kids used to using their products, but at some point that shifted over to Microsoft as Office was the business standard. Many kids grew up knowing how to use Microsoft products and got used to using them. Shifting to a different unfamiliar platform is harder once you’re comfortable with something.
Of course then Google stepped in and started pushing cheap Chromebooks to schools and moving people off physical software and storage to cloud products. Now that is trending towards iPads with just apps continuing the online only software options.
So now you’ve got a generation of kids who don’t even know how to operate a PC let alone do something as basic as open a file.
It all comes down to education. If schools adopted Linux and introduced it to kids at an early age, I’m sure they’d be proficient with it.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 17d
As if that's ever going to happen...
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17d
Because of choices by Microsoft, many governments, both local, and federal, are moving towards Linux.
France is ditching Windows for Linux and it’s working well even at the local level.
Denmark, Austria, the German state of Schleswig-Holstein, and a city in Italy have moved from Microsoft Office to Libre Office
While its unlikely for the US to follow suite anytime soon, particularly in this current administration, and considering Microsoft has spyware built that aids the FBI, it may only be a matter of time until local governments switch for security, IT, and cost reduction reasons.
bonn2@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 16d
Maybe not in the usa but I can 100% see some European countries or maybe even Russia doing that to limit reliance on US tech
this@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 17d
I agree, however when I hear this kind of sentiment, I think about how hard big tech has been fighting to make people computer illiterate and how we need to fight harder than ever to get people to understand the machines they use even just a tiny bit more.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 17d
I've been contemplating... trying to start some kind of "PC Computing Club" or something. With the goal being to outreach and educate people toward computer literacy.
It would have to be something that's "cool" to be a part of, because nobody actually seems to show up to "computer classes" even though they all clamor for them. Especially old people. They think they want to "learn computers" and then just drop out if they show up at all.
There's gotta be a way around that. 90's computer users were passionate and would be staging riots at what's been done to the Internet, privacy laws, and on and on...
This "deliteracy" campaign is entirely intentional. They want to create an idiot cow-sumer class, which only exists to labor and pay subscriptions, without understanding anything.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 17d
It... sort of exists. Different ones exist with slightly different goals, but they are all paid for by companies to promote their stuff. Like forcing everyone to use GitHub because they are the main sponsor. Not like OOP (Original Original Poster) where it's speculated, I mean usually it's just public and people don't care. Shameless self plug (apart from that one there's "Code Club" and also a few a dozen initiatives that die out quickly).
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 18d
any distro that enables flatpak out of the box will let you install both of these browsers. fedora is one like that. if you are using a KDE based desktop, typing their name in the app launcher will offer to install them (after the flatpak database was downloaded once, that should happen some time after first boot)
when using a user friendly distro, this does not require much understanding I think. bot of course, without any understanding, there will be issues. like if someone doesn't know the computer is supposed to be shut down before cutting power to it.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 17d
Back in my day, you had to search the internet for a Google Chrome installer file, and usually you wouldn't even download it from a Google site but some computer magazine's website.
dismay3915@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 18d
You're right but I think that's a good thing
I don't think we really want Linux to be used my everybody. This higher barrier filters out some dummies which which will be only trouble and no benefit to the community. It's called tactical friction or something like this.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 18d
what do you think they should use? something that is requiring online registration, and is uploading their pictures and documents to its creator, against the user's best interest?
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17d
You either have to opt for convenience or privacy/preformance/security. You can't have all things at once.
You either put in the time and effort, or you don't even want to think about what an OS is. It's a choice.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 17d
you don't need to make linux to be hard to use. but it seems that's what you want.
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 18d
👽
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 18d
When you believe lies, the truth seems suspicious
eleijeep@piefed.social · 17 pts · 18d
Aliens' heads are smooth and grey, just like OP's brain.
mlg@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 18d
I actually find it kind of funny that MSFT does have an official linux release for Edge but not for Office.
It would seem like they want it to be a Windows only feature as a way to keep people on Windows, but they have a Mac release of it eith the full feature set lol.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 18d
That's for practical reasons.
Edge is Google Chrome underneath. So a linux release isn't much more dev effort on Microsoft's part.
But they develop Office, and obviously linux was never a commercial target for it.
tempest@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 18d
There's also the secondary reason which is they barely give a shit about the local office apps and want you to use 365 and the in browser versions.
I'm surprised they even offer the office suite local at all anymore.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 18d
Well, they want your browsing data for one so that would make sense, but for Office they don’t want businesses hoping to Linux to get away from Windows if the business suite was available there. Since Office is the “industry standard” they just hold it hostage. If Libre Office adoption ever takes off, I’m sure Microsoft will port it over to recoup lost revenue, but that will only happen if they get desperate.
As for Mac, they may have just broken Office for Mac for a lot of users.
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 18d
poor wittle megacorporations
i will continue to assume they're rdrama type noxious dipshits
f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 18d
We cannot let Microsoft have a monopoly... on sabotaging Microsoft.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 17d
Bro. Taking this sub seriously can rot your brain. I mean, they are serious about their claims. It's just that they are being paid by microslop to be stupid or because they are stupid.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 16d
the OOP is by "AverageUser9000" which is an obvious larp account
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 17d
I'mma tell my grandkids that this was the sign you had an Alienware PC.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 18d
Linucksucks is a circlejerk sub.
Taking it seriously just proves their point.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 18d
They are dead serious though.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 18d
They’re absolutely serious. Here’s a post defending telemetry. The mod accuses anyone who speaks well of Linux as a “evangelists” and bans them.
It’s not the “lol birds aren’t real” kinda jerk, it’s the “the earth is flat” kind.
pivot_root@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 18d
The funny part is that despite telemetry that shows how little people interact with Copilot, it still gets shoved down our throats.
Nobody writing anything seriously is going to use Notepad, and yet...
buran@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 17d
Their post looks AI generated.
I don't think telemetry is inherently bad though, it's nice to have some information to fix stuff but it should be transparent and the data shouldn't be sold.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 18d
Dude.
You scrolled past 3 weeks of posts to find one that's not obviously a joke.
Stop proving them right.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18d
Actually no. I had shared that link somewhere 3 weeks ago in a chat and just copied it over. But whatever bro
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 18d
dude.
Stop proving them right.
I'm looking at both the Reddit and Lemmit.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18d
Lmao fuck off dude.
You’ve commented to about everyone in this thread like it’s your job defending a whack job comm.
“Proving them right” just fuck right off lol
This isn’t an argument where some moral high ground or any horse shit like that comes into play. It’s a meme about either a dishonest or plain ignorant post.
Quit trolling people and move on.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 17d
My guy.
You're taking a circlejerk sub seriously, so much so that you admitted to keeping a screenshot for THREE WEEKS from posting it to your own private chat.
You are just proving them right.
pivot_root@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 18d
Is the Reddit one serious? I know the lemmy.world one created by madthumbs appears to take itself seriously.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 17d
I've seen people claim that it's literally the same person running both communities ...
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 18d
People on Lemmy take everything extremely seriously. I see so many shitposts and fake texts that people treat as if they’re 100% real and genuine.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 18d
It's both funny and kinda sad.
So many lemmites don't have much going on so they treat their interests as core personality treats.
irate944@piefed.social · 2 pts · 18d
I just found out about that sub today so I'm not going to comment on it, but the post is definitely a joke/troll post (the red light emojis are so in your face that you can't even call them clues due to how blatant they are)
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 18d
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 11 pts · 17d
r/linuxsucks is satire
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 17d
Was. Also, the chans were satire. The people who can't read satire came in after.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 17d
This is how flatearth and birdsarentreal started.
People mistook satire for the real thing, latched on, it grew grew and grew, and now here we are dealing with this shit.
I 100% see how people like Joseph Smith or Muhammad got a following. Just be super confident that you're right, get a few followers, and build the organization from there.
Fuck, I should do that. At least I'd be somewhat sane about it.
mosspiglet@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17d
See L. Ron Hubbard
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 17d
I don't think flat earth ever left.
Jolteon@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 16d
Wait, there's actually people who believe in birdsarentreal now?
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 9 pts · 18d
Would be based if it was true. Fuck Microsoft and make Google watch.
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 18d
Average windows user brain
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 6 pts · 17d
What I find surprising is that they managed to install a linux and in that process didn't pick up the slightest hint of what linux is about. I mean did they just download any iso willy nilly and slap it on there, no questions whatsoever asked?
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 17d
I mean that's how I got started in 1996...
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 17d
I used edge from the aur for ages a while back
end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 17d
...but why?
rmrf@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 16d
Probably work
Sxan@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 18d
Who'd have thunk Arch would have an Eternal September?
bless@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 18d
It's a rolling month
schroedingersKoala@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 18d
I feel Microsoft and Google sabotage themselves and shoot themselves repeatedly in their own feet w/o any outside assistance.
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18d
I rather liked the AUR when I had it, sadly I needed a flatpak for a project, and my previous distro threw a fit when I attempted to get things working regardless, so now I'm on Pop!.
carrylex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18d
Do you have a link to the source?
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18d
No sorry. It’s somewhere in here. Started looking for it for you, but realized I really don’t want to look through that shithole, by which I mean both the sub and the platform.
Edit: never mind, found it on DDG. Link
Ooops@feddit.org · 5 pts · 18d
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxsucks101
Wait, this isn't satire?
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 18d
Sadly no, they’re very serious
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 16d
Honestly I found this post and I'm fairly sure this subreddit is satire