Jesus fucking Christ. The article is worse than I thought.
"Our guys are scared for their lives! Even though we are the ones doing all the murdering, we will have to murder even more of you if you don't start obeying us, though our instructions are clear as mud and we aren't even following our own laws!"
And the law breaking includes making people die. Also don't be anywhere near a live ICE because they might just do things like break into your home and that's your fault somehow.
There is nothing on earth more whiny, hostile, and overly defensive than a white American liberal on the internet being told to back up their stated values with action.
“It all goes back to the Dems who want to continually attack ICE and tell people to evade them, tell people don't comply, tell people to resist, and tell people ICE isn’t a real law enforcement,” Homan said. “There's still going to be more bloodshed unless they shut their mouth and let ICE enforce the laws that they enacted.”
“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”
Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts, out loud... in public... 126 days before his candidate was elected...
I'm honestly surprised how meek the resistance has been. Would have expected a driveby or two at least somewhere at some point over the last 2 years. Nope! No randos have just gone up to an ICE guy and popped them in the head. Makes sense for Stepford, but ICE in the hood?
“I’m scared to death because assaults with vehicles are sky high. There’s been a lot of shootings. I’m scared to death that one of these days, our ICE officers aren’t going to be quick enough. The bad guys can be quicker,” Homan told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham Wednesday night.
Playing the victim…presumption of guilt…claims with no evidence…yay fascism…
It was self defense. I got in front of the car and it was slowly moving in my general direction. My legs suddenly stopped working so I wouldn't be able to get out of the way if the car suddenly accelerated and my only option was to preemptively shoot to kill.
"The law" Is just a set of nice sounding words on some piece of paper. If someone in power gets held accountable its usually because they lost the support of key supporters.
only when the people dont hold those in power accountable.
When was the last time ANY american president got convicted of anything? (other than trump)
hose that roll over and give up like you 2 are as bad as the centrists that said this wouldnt happen
Nowhere did i mention giving up. I am just pointing out that the entire system is rotten to the core
Looks like a good justification for any interaction with ICE being an exercise in self defense. He just upended ICE's legal basis for being held to be law abiding by any reasonable person. On top of being fascist, what an inept dipshit.
We have more cops in America now per capita than nazi Germany had at the height of WWII, and that's including all the gestapo, SS, and military police in the German count. DC has an enforcer with a gun and no consequences for every 60 people.
"By 2014, under the Obama administration, Homan began to argue that separating children from their caregivers would be an effective way to discourage illegal border crossings. The journalist Caitlin Dickerson has called him the "intellectual father" of the policy, which he outlined years before the Trump administration adopted it. "Most parents don't want to be separated", Homan told Dickerson. He argued that this makes separation an effective tool for immigration enforcement: "I'd be lying to you if I didn't think that would have an effect."[9]
In 2015, the Obama administration awarded him a Presidential Rank Award as a Distinguished Executive."
I cant beleive Obama appointed him and gave him an award after he suggested separating kids from their parents. Just monstrous. Eff you for that one, Barack.
I can't tell if you're joking or not, but in reality you're probably right. This kind of overt, arrogant, conscienceless disregard for the humanity of others is always just the tip of the evil shitberg they're made of under the skin.
Or to put it another way, a man who does not care about the abuse, torture, and murder of thousands is not going to give two shits about the right of a child to live unharmed. And just as he feels entitled to do what he will to the living bodies of immigrants, he will feel entitled to do the body of anyone else that lacks the power to stop him.
It never fucking ends with these kinds of gleefully evil people: whatever horrendous amorality you see in front of you, there's ALWAYS more where that came from.
So protesting and calling out their crimes and sharing video and making a racket must not be as pointless as some would have us all believe, because Tom Homan himself is desperate to shut it down.
The LAST fucking thing any sentient human being should do is shut their mouth against these murders and crimes against humanity.
Anyone who cares enough to yell, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
“It all goes back to the Dems who want to continually attack ICE and tell people to evade them, tell people don't comply, tell people to resist, and tell people ICE isn’t a real law enforcement,” Homan said. “There's still going to be more bloodshed unless they shut their mouth and let ICE enforce the laws that they enacted.”
Don't forget that we are being run by a mafia-wannabe, and every "protection" demand is also a threat.
This is the equivalent of "It'd be a shame if something happened to your nice flower shop. But if you do what we say we can protect you." And it also may very well be a signal to the lawbreakers in and out of government to demonstrate that the violence will continue. I don't doubt a Proud Boy could see this as a suggestion to shut a Democrat lawmaker's mouth.
"The story is set in the late 1960s in an alternate reality of the United States. The country is ruled by Ferris F. Fremont, a psychopathic, paranoid president. Fremont has established a police state in which civil rights have been suspended. Everyone spies on everyone else, coordinated by the paramilitary youth organization FAP (Friends of the American People). Anyone who disobeys is branded a member of “Aramchek”—a communist underground organization presumably fabricated by the regime. "
maybe this is a radical take, but i think it's funny that they call someone 'the border czar' with a straight face and then he doesn't even look like a hardass. he looks like some random fat dude that's melting from age, wearing a likely expensive suit that gives the impression it's an off the rack ensemble purchased at the men's wearhouse at a steep discount.
a perfect symbol for america.
stop worrying about it. these people already lost.
83 Comments
ryokimball@infosec.pub · 139 pts · 65d
Jesus fucking Christ. The article is worse than I thought. "Our guys are scared for their lives! Even though we are the ones doing all the murdering, we will have to murder even more of you if you don't start obeying us, though our instructions are clear as mud and we aren't even following our own laws!"
hopesdead@startrek.website · 88 pts · 65d
So basically shut up and let us keep breaking the law or you die.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 43 pts · 65d
And the law breaking includes making people die. Also don't be anywhere near a live ICE because they might just do things like break into your home and that's your fault somehow.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 65d
Well, Americans are fucking cowards so this is absolutely how it will go- and then they’ll die anyway.
Seppo@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 64d
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 64d
There is nothing on earth more whiny, hostile, and overly defensive than a white American liberal on the internet being told to back up their stated values with action.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 90 pts · 65d
Ah, "this is your fault" stage of abuse.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 65d
Obviously never going to happen, but i bet if the Dems did shut their mouth the bloodshed will continue as planned.
lilacintheshade@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 65d
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 80 pts · 65d
There will be more bloodshed until Democratic lawmakers and like-minded people abolish ICE
nkat2112@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 65d
This.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 65d
I'm honestly surprised how meek the resistance has been. Would have expected a driveby or two at least somewhere at some point over the last 2 years. Nope! No randos have just gone up to an ICE guy and popped them in the head. Makes sense for Stepford, but ICE in the hood?
Dryad@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 65d
Playing the victim…presumption of guilt…claims with no evidence…yay fascism…
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 65d
"...this is why we have to shoot innocent people dead before they do anything illegal just to be sure ICE is safe". - Homan probably
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 65d
It was self defense. I got in front of the car and it was slowly moving in my general direction. My legs suddenly stopped working so I wouldn't be able to get out of the way if the car suddenly accelerated and my only option was to preemptively shoot to kill.
riskable@programming.dev · 61 pts · 65d
So he's literally saying the beatings will continue until morale improves‽
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 64d
No, he's literally saying "the murders will continue"
Full stop.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 65d
"Look what you made me do!" -abuser
AshMan85@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 65d
That's a threat and he should be referred to the Capitol police.
RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 65d
You mean his own friends and the people who confirmed him into the position?
AshMan85@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d
no idiot, he threatened democrats, who are also members of congress with rights. most importantly police dont confirm anyone lol
RichardDegenne@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 65d
And who appoints the Capitol Police board?
AshMan85@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 65d
That doesnt change laws and rights. Go back to civics class.
Fluke@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 64d
You can be in the right all you want, it won't make them obey rules they want to apply to only their detractors.
Ultimately this comes down to force used to enforce the rules, and whether it will be used.
AshMan85@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 64d
Ok sport...
Fluke@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 64d
?
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 63d
"The law" Is just a set of nice sounding words on some piece of paper. If someone in power gets held accountable its usually because they lost the support of key supporters.
AshMan85@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 63d
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 63d
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 65d
Victim’s families should use this as evidence they do this on purpose.
Anyone who says shit like this needs ….
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 65d
... to be about 1 head shorter than they currently are.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 65d
Fuck you Homan, you're going to die in a cell in the Hague. This statement will be played back for you at your trial.
Zannsolo@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 65d
No American will die in the hague, in jail maybe but probably not. Even the most leftist president wouldn't give up American sovereignty to the icc.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 65d
I’d like to see all these traitors die at the noose or the end of a gun barrel personally
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 64d
Guillotine would also be acceptable.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 64d
And I'd like a puppy that speaks English and shits gold, but I'm not a child who believes in shit that's never going to happen.
AshMan85@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 63d
i prefer an american prison.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 32 pts · 65d
The midterms will decide whether it is a troubled peace or a violent war that defines the next era of America.
I will keep speaking, and if it comes down to it, bear arms against tyrants.
razzazzika@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 65d
As if staying silent would stop the killing.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 65d
Looks like a good justification for any interaction with ICE being an exercise in self defense. He just upended ICE's legal basis for being held to be law abiding by any reasonable person. On top of being fascist, what an inept dipshit.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 64d
None of that matters.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 65d
This dickhead still has not had consequences for taking 50K in that bribery sting, right?
Anyway, this is some classic DARVO shit right here.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 65d
SoapboxBallotbox
Jury boxAmmo box
cmbabul@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 64d
That second one is rapidly declining in potential effectiveness
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 64d
The ballot box is what brought us here. Every election for decades has resulted in more cops and more surveillance.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 64d
We have more cops in America now per capita than nazi Germany had at the height of WWII, and that's including all the gestapo, SS, and military police in the German count. DC has an enforcer with a gun and no consequences for every 60 people.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 22 pts · 65d
BuT iF wE tAkE aCtIoN, tHeY wIlL use It As JuStIfIcAiOn FoR vIoLeNcE
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 65d
Shout-out to Obama for giving us this guy.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 65d
From Homan's wikipedia:
"By 2014, under the Obama administration, Homan began to argue that separating children from their caregivers would be an effective way to discourage illegal border crossings. The journalist Caitlin Dickerson has called him the "intellectual father" of the policy, which he outlined years before the Trump administration adopted it. "Most parents don't want to be separated", Homan told Dickerson. He argued that this makes separation an effective tool for immigration enforcement: "I'd be lying to you if I didn't think that would have an effect."[9]
In 2015, the Obama administration awarded him a Presidential Rank Award as a Distinguished Executive."
I cant beleive Obama appointed him and gave him an award after he suggested separating kids from their parents. Just monstrous. Eff you for that one, Barack.
TIEPilot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 65d
sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 65d
That guy rapes kids. I'd bet money on it.
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 65d
I can't tell if you're joking or not, but in reality you're probably right. This kind of overt, arrogant, conscienceless disregard for the humanity of others is always just the tip of the evil shitberg they're made of under the skin.
Or to put it another way, a man who does not care about the abuse, torture, and murder of thousands is not going to give two shits about the right of a child to live unharmed. And just as he feels entitled to do what he will to the living bodies of immigrants, he will feel entitled to do the body of anyone else that lacks the power to stop him.
It never fucking ends with these kinds of gleefully evil people: whatever horrendous amorality you see in front of you, there's ALWAYS more where that came from.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 19 pts · 65d
You made me hit you
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 65d
So protesting and calling out their crimes and sharing video and making a racket must not be as pointless as some would have us all believe, because Tom Homan himself is desperate to shut it down.
The LAST fucking thing any sentient human being should do is shut their mouth against these murders and crimes against humanity.
Anyone who cares enough to yell, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 64d
His full phrase was
Umm, can we talk about that very last bit?
savvie@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 63d
First Amendment, anyone? Fellow Yanks??
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 65d
They who, Tom? They fucking who? Because ICE is not a legislative body and cannot enact laws.
Even if he's implying immigration laws enacted by congress, those laws do not have death as a punishment for ANY violations.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 65d
It's not even a crime, it's a civil infraction.
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 65d
What's a civil infraction? Protesting ICE? Letting people know about their rights? 🤔
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d
Being undocumented.
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 63d
I see. However the threat was against people (Democrats all, apparently) working against ICE. None of their actions are even civil offences.
TheRiskiestBiscuit@reddthat.com · 15 pts · 65d
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 65d
Fuck you Tom Homan, you fuckin' fascist.
Go die.
wizbiz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 63d
Literally trying to TERRORIZE Americans into compliance. Ice is a terrorist organization
NekoKoneko@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 65d
Don't forget that we are being run by a mafia-wannabe, and every "protection" demand is also a threat.
This is the equivalent of "It'd be a shame if something happened to your nice flower shop. But if you do what we say we can protect you." And it also may very well be a signal to the lawbreakers in and out of government to demonstrate that the violence will continue. I don't doubt a Proud Boy could see this as a suggestion to shut a Democrat lawmaker's mouth.
sportsjorts@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 63d
Fuck this weeb. Only way you will shut my mouth is murdering me in cold blood like ice does to everyone else fucking Nazi scum.
halfapage@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 65d
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 65d
Tom something I think
dwalin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 65d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Homan
pivot_root@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 65d
Name checks out. Humans have the capacity for empathy and understanding. Tom over here can't even masquerade as a real human being successfully.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 65d
Tom soon-to-be-tossed-into-a-woodchipper
Corvidae@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 65d
Tom Homan playing Sister Mary Elephant.
TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 65d
I mean, if he'd rather we open a clip on his ass. I'd have thought words were preferable, but if that's what he wants...
care to walk that back so we can try to play nice?
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
Has there been any clips opened?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 64d
I find I don't need to read Philip K Dick novels anymore, I just watch the world...
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 63d
Time to rewatch a scanner darkly. I need one of those suits.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 63d
I'm thinking more of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Albemuth
"The story is set in the late 1960s in an alternate reality of the United States. The country is ruled by Ferris F. Fremont, a psychopathic, paranoid president. Fremont has established a police state in which civil rights have been suspended. Everyone spies on everyone else, coordinated by the paramilitary youth organization FAP (Friends of the American People). Anyone who disobeys is branded a member of “Aramchek”—a communist underground organization presumably fabricated by the regime. "
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 63d
Ooh. Have to give that a read. A bit depressing given current events tho.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 65d
If this guy is married his wife totally has bruises under her outfit.
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d
That tiny Nazi is really going to blame Democrats for the people he and his goons murder?
I bet he blames his wife for her own black eye.
whereitsat@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 64d
maybe this is a radical take, but i think it's funny that they call someone 'the border czar' with a straight face and then he doesn't even look like a hardass. he looks like some random fat dude that's melting from age, wearing a likely expensive suit that gives the impression it's an off the rack ensemble purchased at the men's wearhouse at a steep discount.
a perfect symbol for america.
stop worrying about it. these people already lost.
savvie@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 63d
a mumbling Homan-culus
savvie@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 63d
The Homunculus has mumbled!!!
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 64d
This is our future. There's no revolution coming. No one will stop it. Get used to it and try not to get turned in by your MAGA neighbor.
nforminvasion@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 63d
Your nihilism does nothing but feed their machine.
Arancello@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 65d
I’ve received criticism from people when i comment that usa people are losing their rights. Then this guy says this! How could i be so stupid! /s
ripcord@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d
What? I've never run into anyone here who would have argued against that.