Exsiccated/Exsiccation - was trying to think of a single English term that could be the equivalent of starvation; like if someone was dying of thirst, but I felt parched isn't weighted enough to fulfill the gravity of it.
In latin exsiccare meant to dry up completely, so that's how we got here I guess.
Thoughts? Is there a term I have forgotten that fits what I was looking for?
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NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de · 85 pts · 26d
Dehydration?
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 26d
I was thinking if someone drank the night before I would define them as dehydrated, not dying of thirst.
meco03211@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 26d
If someone hasn't drank in two days they are dehydrated.
Hominine@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 26d
This brings home what thirst truly is.
SirSamuel@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 26d
I feel like the hungry -> starving process is just a longer version of the thirsty -> dehydrated process
Does it make a difference that starvation takes longer than dehydration, but both result in eventual death? It takes weeks to die of starvation, it takes days to die of dehydration. Just because one manifests over a longer period of time and has a longer recovery period doesn't make the other less deadly
Also, I'm not sure if there are poisons a person can ingest that will strip vital nutrients and push a person into the starvation state (and if the poison does strip vital nutrients, the poisoned person already has bigger problems). But consuming alcohol will push a person into the dehydrated state without killing them.
What if you compared the effects of dehydration and starvation as they progress, like, mild -> acute -> severe -> terminal?
Something like that?
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quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 48 pts · 26d
Dehydration
You don't necessarily die from starvation the same way you don't necessarily die from dehydration, but you can die from either of them.
Stern@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 26d
Strictly theres 'dehydration', though it does lack gravitas of 'starving'. 'Parched' also exists but I feel like that falls in with 'thirsty' as a "Yea I want water but I'm not dying" situation.
'Dessicated' or 'dessication' could be used descriptively as it means dried out.
Godnroc@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 26d
If you saw someone who staved to death, you may say their remains were emaciated; they died of starvation.
If you saw someone who died from lack of water, you may say their remains are desiccated; they died of dehydration.
Stern@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d
'I feel dessicated' and 'I feel dehydrated' both flow fairly well to me, though I'd feel more bougie saying the former unless I was analogizing in the same sentence
fizzle@quokk.au · 2 pts · 26d
I dont think that's true in either case.
You can be emaciated without dying, and you can starve to death without being emaciated. They might be somewhat related but not always occurring together.
The same is true of dehydration and dessicated.
chunes@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 26d
The old English word for this was forthirst. It was a direct counterpart to the modern "starve." But it fell out of use because it happened so rarely in the British isles. I don't know Arabic but I'm willing to bet they have a word for it..
AlsaValderaan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 26d
Ah, like german verdursten!
I always find it cool when you can discover equivalent words in other languages like this.
chunes@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 26d
I think that's where English got it from actually.
audaxdreik@pawb.social · 6 pts · 26d
Lemme hit that gatorade, I'm forthirsting here!
He forthirsted to death.
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 26d
Forsooth!
Leviathan@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 25d
I'd love to see that one come back.
postman@literature.cafe · 20 pts · 26d
Thirstfallen
etchinghillside@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 26d
Dibs band name.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 26d
Thirstydeath
Agent641@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 26d
Drinkwant
He has died from want of drink. Drinkwant
Crescent@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 26d
Powerthirst
workerONE@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d
Waterfall
kurcatovium@piefed.social · 2 pts · 25d
Megathirst
village604@adultswim.fan · 1 pts · 26d
Thirstmining.
Redacted@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 26d
Desiccated maybe?
CombatWombat@feddit.online · 14 pts · 26d
I think “desiccated” would be the closest existing English word to what you’re trying to cook up.
muhyb@programming.dev · 7 pts · 26d
I'm not a native English speaker so keep that in mind, but desiccated sounds like "already dead because of dehydration" to me.
sorghum@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 26d
That's because desiccated is past tense. The other forms would be dessicate, dessicates, and desiccating. The "I'm starving to death" would be "I'm desiccating to death"
muhyb@programming.dev · 2 pts · 26d
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying it! I guess I only saw that word in its past tense in real life.
CombatWombat@feddit.online · 2 pts · 25d
I think that's right. I would read it as hyperbole to refer to something still alive as desiccated, for sure. If you meant it literally, I wouldn't think of something that is even just dead but like, dried up and leathery, too -- if you're talking about a desiccated cow, I'm thinking more "beef jerky" and less "someone get the vet, and hurry." There are more natural options elsewhere in the comments; I offered mine more as "this is the more well-known word using that root" than "this is the most natural word a native speaker would produce."
muhyb@programming.dev · 2 pts · 25d
I understand and I didn't write that because I'm arguing. I was just stating how it sounds for me. When I see the word desiccated I imagine something like someone died in an arid place and stayed there for some time. Though it's not a word that I encounter a lot.
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 26d
Desiccated like a coconut
don_kiedyck@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 25d
Thirstmaxxing.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 25d
I physically recoiled
snoons@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 26d
I'm dying of thirsting. *bites lip
superpill@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 26d
I might be a little late to the thread but how about "parched"?
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 26d
Google says there is none
gnufuu@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 26d
The only way for this comment to be more German would be if it came laminated.
SirSamuel@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 26d
deacon@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 26d
The scientific term is Turbo Parched
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 26d
Is parched itself not strong enough to fit the bill? Nonnative speaker here.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 26d
No, parched is a light to moderate thirst.
deacon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 26d
I just never miss never miss an opportunity to slap turbo onto something, as a rule.
solrize@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 26d
Starvation doesn't necessarily imply death. Like you could be emaciated from starvation in prison, but still alive.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 26d
Yeah, I feel some of the terms got whittled down in severity over time. Kind of like you hear people say they electricuted themselves fairly often. Slowly it's becoming not deadly, just a bit of a shock lol
*Typo, executed - > electricuted. Not sure I know anyone who said they executed themself and told be about it, haha
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 26d
It also doesn't strictly limited to food. You can be starved of oxygen. Why not water too?
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 25d
Starvation of oxygen succinctly is suffocation
destructdisc@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 25d
Dehydration.
weps@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 26d
I don't think Exsiccated/Exsiccation is cromulent enough. Doesn't really embiggen dying of thirst to me.
eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 25d
It's a perfectly cromulent word
Krusty@quokk.au · 6 pts · 25d
Dessication. It's a bit hyperbolic but it works.
Godric@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d
I like desiccation, it has such a lovely mouth-feel. I was reading an Patrick Obrien book recently, and I think someone was in danger of desiccation.
leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 26d
netherlands seem to have
verstervingas a word for this.maybe go for the loan word approach?
Fleppensteijn@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 25d
That applies to food and liquids, not specifically liquids. The German version does seem to apply to liquids only though.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 25d
parched? dessication?
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 25d
Unslaked?
Krusty@quokk.au · 5 pts · 25d
Let's invent some!
Mortidipsia - "thirst unto death"
Xerothan - "dry death" note: than(atos)
Siccomort - "death by drying out"
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 26d
No single word im aware of, exsiccation sounds cool.
My only speed bump is hyperbolically saying "Yes I'm exsiccating", but that's fine. Parched or dehydrated are technically correct, but don't have the same punch as "starving".
palordrolap@fedia.io · 3 pts · 26d
Exsiccated is already a word, at least according to Wiktionary.
And the entry has been there for nearly 20 years so it's not someone being quick off the mark after reading this post either. (Time travellers notwithstanding)
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 26d
I think OP meant giving this word a new meaning.
zxqwas@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 26d
Eskimos have so many words for snow, I'm not surprised English lacks a word for dying of thirst but have about two dozen words ways of describing how wet you are.
Thorry@feddit.org · 3 pts · 26d
I think this is a misconception. It's the same thing where people think Germans have words for everything. This kind of thinking usually comes from English native speakers, where compounding words isn't really a thing. Germans can just stick multiple words together and form a new word. This is the same thing with the indigenous peoples of the north having a lot of words for snow. They combine multiple concepts into one word, to describe the kinds of snow. Many languages have this feature, English just happens to be one that lacks it.
FishFace@piefed.social · 0 pts · 25d
Oh but we can! We have footballs, handbags and smartphones. But also, is there really a grammatical difference between a charging cable and a Ladekabel? A brake pedal and a Bremspedal? Gold medal and Goldmedaille? In all cases both languages just jam the components together without applying any special grammatical constructions. The only difference is that, in written English, new constructions must be written with a space in between. But in spoken English you can't hear spaces (by that I mean: there is no auditory gap between words that is different from the gaps between syllables within a word)
With Inuit languages, it's more than this. They form "words" written without spaces that in European languages would be entire sentences!
FishFace@piefed.social · 2 pts · 25d
Inuit is an agglutinating language, so forms "words" which express entire sentences.
The lesson to learn from this is that the concept of "a word" is not necessarily comparable between two different languages and is a bit arbitrary.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 26d
Sprinkled, damp, moist, wet, soaked, drenched, sodden, inundated
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 26d
English has far more words for snow than the Inuit languages have. And as others have said dehydrate and it's conjugations serve this purpose in English, with dessicate and it's conjugations for the remains.
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 25d
I think proper newspeak would be ++thirsted
MrOtingocni@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d
Thanks, I hate it.
I think the two cc's offend me somehow. But kudos for word making
Donebrach@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d
But if you’re looking for a phrase in prose “I am starving” and “I am parched” already carry the same weight.