I am currently reading this book about the five large carnivores of Scandinavia and I am absolutely humbled, both by finding out how little I knew about them, what prejudice I had against them and how people that live in close proximity to them can both love, respect and be angry with them at the same time. I am reading the original release in Swedish.
- What have you encountered in the wild?
- When, where, how?
- What were your initial thoughts, feelings and reactions (physical, psychological, etc.)?
- What do think of them in general? <--- this last question applies to everybody, regardless of whether you have seen or met one of these large carnivores or not.
Personally, without having met any one of them, I am humbled, scared, amazed and intrigued by them. I feel for those whose - for instance - livestock are threatened by them, especially if it directly damages business. I also strongly believe that the matter should not be dumbed down to the dichotmy of "ignore those that suffer from them" or "eradicate them". We are far too intelligent and developed a race to degrade ourselves so.
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SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 31 pts · 1d
I saw a guy at a McDonalds who needed two chairs to sit. Terrifying.
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1d
Probably my buddy Larry. Larry’s out there convincing people to go vegan so there’s more meat for him.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 21 pts · 1d
I encountered a large carnivore in the civilized before but not in the wild. Canadian here for what it's worth. Ran across a black bear on night shift bang in the middle of a massive oil refinery complex. Paved for a kilometre in every direction.
Black bears are very low risk to humans and I had an F350 between me and it, even still it's just not something you mess with. It changed the whole course of my day instantly as I had to start reporting to site safety etc, I spent the next 3 hours on the radio.
Other than that I've seen the occasional lynx or mountain lion, but at great distance. Generally these things aren't seen by humans unless they want to be or don't care. You see them because they're chasing prey or you get lucky and their out sunning themselves or something and you're far enough away they aren't threatened.
Large carnivores are pretty rare and not necessarily the largest wild animal threats to humans or livestock. Something like racoons or foxes taking chickens is a much larger nuisance to many more people than something like a mountain lion taking sheep. And something like a moose or a goose is a lot more likely to fuck you up because people don't perceive these animals as threats and take way larger risks than they do around predators.
remon@ani.social · 16 pts · 1d
Not a carnivore ... but a pack of wild boars with piglets in a nearby forest. My initial thought was "fuck" as I walked backwards like Homer in the meme. Once I had some distance I started running.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 15 pts · 1d
Any animal regardless of size or perceived danger should just be treated like it's 10 times larger and covered in knives if it has babies nearby
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 1d
I encounter wild boars quite often walking back home after work. My advice is to be noisier than them so they can avoid you before you even know they are there.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 22h
do you live in eurasia, wild boars are native there they are a seperate species. feral pigs/hogs are the one mostly encountered in us. boars/and feral pigs are viscious, i think they are more dangerous than carnivores.
remon@ani.social · 2 pts · 19h
Yep, that happened in Europe. It was definitely boars.
eurodyne@piefed.world · 14 pts · 1d
I grew up in Florida as a kid, and I lived on a lake. I have on more than one occasion encountered alligators. They are assholes.
I remember on occasion, I was probably six years old, maybe a little older, and my parents called the police because there were a couple of alligators sunning themselves on the back lawn by our boathouse. The local police came over and clearly had no idea what to do. They started yelling at the alligators, trying to shoo them back into the water, with little success.
Eventually, the two alligators did creep back into the water, but they were lingering around the boathouse, and in an effort to get the larger one, a female, to go away, the frustrated officers began shooting at the water. This did not have the intended effect. Alligators are not just assholes, they’re much more clever than most people seem to think.
As the officers kept firing into the water, the alligator would hiss at them, and then go under the boathouse to the other side. As the officers would run over to the other side, the alligator would hiss and, predictably, go to the other side of the boathouse and hiss them again. This went on for about five minutes or so until my father had the good sense just to tell them to stop and request that they contact animal control.
As soon as the officers backed off and left, so did the alligators, with a noticeable final hiss that I swear was them laughing.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 1d
I have had three..
Two were encounters with sharks in the ocean, and while both sharkes were not really larged, less tham three feet in lmgth. When you are in the open ocean they might as well have been Bruce.
(Bruce was the nickname of the mechanical shark in Jaws)
The third was a boar when i was stationed in germany. Again the magnificantion effect, ibet the beasty was maybe 50 pounds. When you are stumbling throught the forest at night with mo lights and a thing about the size of a coffee table starts miving around and making noise..
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 3h
Why were you in the forest at night with no lights?
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2h
… like i said, Germany….
When you train in the Army you dont use lights at night.
ace_garp@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
Never.
Seriously lucky to live in Australia, rather than growing up somewhere dangerous.
EDIT: /s
meco03211@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
But I heard drop bears were a huge danger.
ace_garp@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Huge danger, small carnivore. 🐨
Just don't walk under trees, and you'll be right.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 22h
a black bear has killed a hunter in a forest by dropping on him, after being shot at by said hunter.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Sarcasm? Australia is known for having many dangerous/deadly animals.
SolSerkonos@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1d
And yet kinda lacking in large carnivores, I think. They have Crocodiles? I can't think of anything else.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
Sharks. Whites and bulls.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
Yeah, large carnivores not so much. Apparently dingos and tasmanian devils are the closest in that department. I've just always thought of Australia as a place of greatest concern in terms of animals due to the many deadly snakes and spiders they have.
Soggy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
The big predators live in the water.
SolSerkonos@piefed.social · 1 pts · 1d
That totally tracks. It definitely has plenty of dangerous wildlife. They have plenty of problematic animals that will fuck you up. Just not a ton of large carnivores.
ace_garp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Yes, you're right, that was half joking. Have added in the /s.
Australia does not have large carnivores, but you still need to be careful in the bush or outback.
General guideline is, look where you step and don't put your hand somewhere that you can't see(under logs, in rusted cars etc.)
The actual top animal dangers in Aus are bees, snakes, spiders, according to this data(2021-2022).
https://aussieanimals.com/conflicts/venomous-creatures-australia/
The two on that list to know, if you plan to visit Australian beaches, is Blue Ring Octopus [ 12 to 20 cm (5 to 8 in) ] and Cone Shell [ 1.3 cm to 21.6 cm ].
They can catch out unaware tourists, who pick them up because they look quite beautiful.
As well as the above two guidelines, another one is to keep hands off any wildlife at the bush or beach.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Thanks for the response and for the info. I'd love to visit Australia some day for more than a couple reasons! We have some friends there being only one of them.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 1d
Australians themselves don't seemed bothered by any of it, except the bush flies, though.
psud@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1d
There are so few dangerous animals. Up north there are crocodiles, ask a tropical Aussie how to avoid those.
On the coast there's the blue ring octopus so we're taught to not pick up small octopuses, and cone shell molluscs so we wear shoes when walking on seaside rocks and rock pools. There are two dangerous spiders, redbacks are the same as black widows, Sydney funnel-webs weave a distinctive web, you mostly avoid those by not sticking your fingers into finger sized holes,
There are snakes that mostly flee from you. Wait a few metres away from the snake and wait for it to move. Almost all snake bite victims in Australia are snake handlers and wildlife fans.
Our one dangerous bird (cassowary) is only dangerous if cornered and attacked
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 8h
See, where I live, you can pretty well ignore small creatures, walk barefoot anywhere and stick your bits into whatever you want. The worst thing you can get is a wasp or bee sting. But, yes, in exchange there are things that could rip you to shreds and just choose not to. Edit: I guess there are skunks, still.
Having worked with birds a bit, one that's big enough to mess you up does scare me pretty good. Mammals have some kind of common sense of fair play, birds are just ruthless.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 8h
The bird is a herbivore. It doesn't want to eat you, it just defends itself
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Sure. That is largely based on what you're used to. Africans also have tons of mostly deadly snakes. None of them seem concerned talking to me about it, despite losing a dog every year or two to venomous snakes.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 8h
Mandatory "sounds like they're just feeding dogs to the local snakes" meme.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5h
Heh, kinda yeah
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 1d
The biggest carnivores around here are foxes.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Where I live (Ibiza) was named after being an island with no predators. So the biggest wild predator here is a 2cm tall snake (they're invasive)
meco03211@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
I'm picturing someone painstakingly holding a snake upright to measure their height.
jdr@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1d
Some of the tourists can be pretty ferocious
palordrolap@fedia.io · 5 pts · 1d
Whenever I've seen a fox it's always been through a window or, vaguely, possibly, at a significant distance.
Memories are blurry and I've been in vehicles and houses in the same places I've seen foxes. It's possible I was outside on foot for at least one of those.
On the other hand, I could bend "wild" the other way and think about the handful of scary dog encounters I've had. Never been near enough to a fox to give it the remotest reason to attack. Those dogs were a different matter.
kazerniel@piefed.world · 1 pts · 1d
UK?
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1d
Spain, other regions have wolves and shit, but where I'm at is foxes and boars.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Mare meva
rabber@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 1d
I've been almost killed by a grizzly, twice, when I used to live on the eastern slopes of the rockies in Alberta. Climate change and human activity are making it hard for the bears and they are hungry as fuck in those parts.
One time when I was like 6 years old camping with my parents, I went on a walk to the river and got charged from behind a bush, but it didn't seem hellbent on killing me
Another time I was hiking up a fire cutblock and my buddy and I thought we saw three hikers maybe like 3km uphill from us. Eventually it was obvious is was a mom and cubs, and they were chasing at us full speed (we were upwind from them). If we were a little further into the hike, I think one of us wouldn't have made it back to the truck in time.
I've also been trapped by a moose in my parents garage for 6 hours, once
I still would rather run into either these animals out in the sticks than random humans. I've encountered some really sketchy people in my time spent in the woods. Seems to be getting worse too. I'm not a gun person, but that's why I have a gun.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9h
Trying not to make this personal but I’m much more afraid of a person intentionally carrying a gun, than some random stranger. I understand the urge to protect yourself, but you should take a closer look at your chances of defending yourself, and why you live in fear
rabber@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 6h
I've literally been robbed while solo camping before
Since covid there are just a lot of bad people out there. I put my shotgun on my tailgate now and have not had a random drunk crew pull unto my campsite in the middle of the night since lol
Yeah that's kind of the idea haha
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5h
Yes, all the innocent people you may encounter need to be afraid of being murdered because you live in fear after being robbed by one group once?
rabber@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 5h
People pulling up to my campsite in the middle of the night are not innocent people
Whats your suggestion? Call the cops? Lol
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5h
Did they murder you? Does everyone do that?
rabber@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 5h
I feel like you are just arguing for the sake of arguing
Every seasoned camper brings a shotgun with them here, because yes, it's a surprisingly common issue
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5h
Probably true. I wasn’t really trying to but yeah, I have very different attitudes toward deadly weapons than you do.
Perhaps you camp somewhere with deadly wildlife, I don’t know.
shweddy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
Saw a bear once at the beginning of a hike. The hike was over before it started
Master@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 9h
I've had multiple encounters with bears, cougars, alligators, and meth heads.
The closets I came to dying was being chased around my car for 30m by a mother black bear after I disturbed her hiding in a basement via coal flue. Lost my keys and had to wait for a park ranger to come save me.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 6h
Jeez, that's one hell of a workout
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
I live in the US. I've seen black bears in the wild a couple of times, and personally I don't have a lot of actual fear when it comes to them. I respect that they're totally capable of hurting me severely, but also I know they are mostly harmless to humans and just want to be left alone. Grizzly bears scare me a lot. I've not seen one yet but I've been near them a couple times. They are far more likely to be aggressive. Realistically though, for us, carnivores aren't the biggest concern most of the time. Bison, mooses, and even deer can be deadly.
Lions in africa and other big cats freaks me out a lot. Luckily we don't have many big cats here and the ones we do have make themselves very scarce.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 18h
Black bears don't really scare me. Don't like. Get up close and fuck with them for no reason. But I don't do that with large dogs either, and a black bear is way more likely to just fuck off if you start yelling at it than even a large dog. Little dogs don't fuck off for anything but worst case scenario you can just yeet them.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10h
Yeah, exactly
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13h
I was staying in a cabin and went to get something from the car and a black bear was just cruising past. He looked at me and I looked him. We both kinda panicked and scurried off.
chloroken@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 20h
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 14h
Bears are omnivores
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 22h
only a coyote, i thought it was a husky one time, but it was actually a coyote casually walking pass me.
baeb66@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 9h
They follow the train tracks into the city here. Coyotes are smart and very adaptable.
Bears do the same thing.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9h
Unfortunately coyotes around here are too comfortable with people. I live in an urban area near a wilderness area and they come into the neighborhoods looking for rabbits.
kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 1d
I have just a boring one. I was driving on my scooter, in one very early morning, when on a small, forest surrounded road, after a sharp turn around a hill full of trees, a brown bear disappeared in the bushes, from in front of me. I just drove on, and did not stop. My pulse jumped, since it was so sudden and, well, a bear, but that was it. They are usually not harmful to humans around here (Finland), unless they have cubs, or you have bad luck. The poor beast was probably as spooked as I was, from the scooter sounds, since we could not really see or hear each other early enough.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Yeah. A pig. A feral boar that weighed in at nearly 700 pounds.
shoomemer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
How large is large? I met a particularly chonky beagle once while hiking. Positively vicious slobber attack
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 1d
Underwater, I have. I've seen two - a group of large barracuda and one extremely large eel - looked like a Giant Moray.
I was probably like 14-16 at the time, diving in the Atlantic and Pacific respectively.
Reactions for both were just to stay away from them and make sure they didnt come closer, while trying to get a good look. It was kind of surreal seeing them, because you don't usually expect to encounter things like these.
Barracuda aren't particularly scary, but they are some of the largest fish I've seen underwater - probably around 5ft (1.5m) long and I was within 20ft (6m) of two or three of them. They are also quite aggressive, though not usually to divers. I was swimming up from below them coming up from around 60-80ft (18-24m), so we got a good view of them swimming around near the surface.
This Giant Moray is the largest creature I've ever seen in the water bar-none. We were diving a reef, and as we swam over some rocky structures, there was this hollow in the rock - like a partly-covered underwater grotto - and in it I could see this absolutely massive eel. I thought it was some kind of coral or something until I saw its face. The surface I saw of the eel had to be nearly 1.5ft wide (45cm), since they'ye ovoid in cross-section I may have gotten the impression that it was larger than it really was. But even still, it must have been nearly that large in diameter and probably about 9ft (2.7m) long, though I couldn't see all of it at once. I was a bit frightened just because of the sheer size of the eel, and I thought they were more aggressive than they are, but we couldn't get too close because of the rock. It was really cool to see. In years since then I thought maybe I was misremembering the event because it seemed surreal to see such a large eel - but then I researched a bit and found that giant morays can be... giant... while there are other species that I've also seen that are much smaller.
I think they're neat. Like with all wild animals, though, I want to keep my distance. Especially to the aquatic variety.
I experienced a sense of awe in both situations as well as a very real sense of how dangerous these animals could be if they wanted to be.
albbi@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 1d
I was hiking Crypt Lake Trail a couple of years ago. Didn't have any problems on the way up but on the way down there was a juvenile grizzly bear on the trail in front of me and my brother. We paused on the trail for a bit, looking for a possible mother to be around and I was gripping my bear spray, but the bear eventually moved on.
When approaching the boat dock where the ferry picks up hikers, we heard a lot of yelling "Go away"! "Get back". Didn't heed the warning, but they weren't yelling at us, they were yelling at a very large grizzly bear in the trees close to a group of about 15 people who had finished the hike. The bear had been probably 15 meters from me at the closest. But thankfully with all the people around it too just moved on. Bear attacks are pretty rare, but you still don't want to win that lottery ticket.
The hike itself was already pretty thrilling. Some edge walking, a tunnel and a climb with some metal chain attached to the cliff side to help out before getting to a mountain top glacial lake. It was an exhausting experience.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 1d
I live in the PNW so the large carnivores are orca, man, puma, bear, sealion, eagles, coyote, fox and dogs/cats
I have backpacked and spent a lot of time in the wilds. I have encountered a buch of the preditor/carnivores of my area except bears. I have only seen them in a roadside pasture as I drove by.
I never saw it but I am pretty sure I encountered a puma (cougar) once while backpacking alone. It was a little unnerving but I had my pack tall behind me so it couldn't get my neck if it jumped me. Still to be in the woods full of bird song and other forest noises and then to have it all go cold silent for a while is chilling. I was warned that this is usually how the forest reacts to a puma hunting. Making a lot of noise and making sure to keep an mirror to be sure whats behind me kept me from freaking out too much. I have seen puma on distant hilltops and what not in the same areas and I have no problems with them being who they are. Just hope they never get desperate enough to try taking me on. That is usually the case, a young male without a good hunting area gets displaced and starving and has to try and setting for attacking a person.
I encounter coyote enough, I genually enjoy them. Sure they are devious and dangerous but the little surviors are amazing. I remember one time hiking on the Washington coast and in some places you can see for miles even though its a rocky mess to traverse. So we see this coyote like a mile ahead and we wonder what its doing. It seems to be walking in our direction. As it gets closer we notice it has a problem with one of its legs, so its walking on three. Its walking in a pretty straight line, deviating every so often like maybe there was a goodie to be found here or there. And as it gets closer to us it just walks by looking at us like it wanted to wave and say "oh hello there human, good day for a walk on the beach yeah? well I have to go, have a nice day" and keeps on going the way it was. It was an truly special encounter that I will never forget
Another time backpacking on the coast. The trees are tall and dense so finding a spot to setup a camp can be tricky. We found a nice spot with a good flat area under a huge tree that already had a fire ring so we stayed there for the night. When I woke up in the morning and decied to make a camp fire, about halfway through the process I noticed about 5 feet above me was a massive bald eagle perched on a branch just watching me. I totally got the impression it was sizing me up. It was huge and its claws were bigger then my hands! after some time, it must have thought better of it and flew off.
Looking directly into the eyes of a preditor is a special thing. To know that it is looking at you in the same way you see it. Each of you have that moment together. I love that feeling.
SolSerkonos@piefed.social · 6 pts · 1d
I've seen a black bear- I was in a vehicle and so I was pretty safe, but he was close up. I was driving through a curvy mountain road in Appalachia, and the dude was just vibing off the side of the road.
I've seen multiple Lynxes, usually from a distance. I saw one just crossing the road, the other was on the other side of a lake from me just drinking.
My thoughts were mostly just, "damn, that's cool. Don't usually see those." I was always safe, and I don't have any livestock for them to bother. They can mind their business and I'll mind mine past the occasional glimpse.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 7h
Around day four of a week-long backpacking trip just east of Yosemite, I encountered a bear one morning on my way to do my business. I turned a corner around a large boulder and there he was, was sunning himself on the trail. When he saw me he slowly got up and wandered back into the trees. That simple description left out the few seconds of sheer panic I experienced realizing that the bear could, if it wanted to, cover the distance between us before I could turn around and take three steps. There was nothing but flat, open ground between us and that is what was most frightening.
Norin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
It’s an omnivore, I suppose, but I’ve had a few encounters with black bears in my life.
They’re usually harmless if you leave them alone, but one chased me while I was on my bike back when I was 18.
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 1d
I was jogging at night in rain in a cedar forest in the mountains and had a mountain lion sidle up on the switchback above me. Just checking me out, maybe 20 feet out and 10 feet up.
verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1d
On a night hike when I was a schoolkid, our teacher was using a handheld spotlight to show us some nocturnal birds when the light fell on an adult cougar, lounging on a tree branch not far away and examining us. It didn't move or react. We turned around and went back to our classroom/cabin and that was the end of hiking for a while. I'm sure the cougar had been watching us for a long time. I have no idea how big it was. Our teacher seemed very calm and matter of fact, so the danger didn't occur to me or the other kids at the time. Southwest Oklahoma doesn't see many predators bigger than a coyote, so I imagine there were many phone calls while little students were distracted.
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Canadian checking in! I've been face to face with black bears, grizzlies, bobcats, cougars.
In Ontario, the black bears were the most common. When we would go camping in the summer in the 80s, my parents were given a tip that driving to a local town dump in evening was a sure fire way to see bears from thhe safety of your car. It worked. 5 or so were feeding and would try to get through the closed window. At the same time, we would see bears in the waste bins at the park.
As I got older and did interior camping and true wilderness camping, we would encounter bears often. We practiced extreme camp hygiene and would not have food out, without fire. They would poke around the edges and see more trouble than its worth and leave.
As a working adult, I saw a blackbear on a bc highway and pulled over to take pictures. It ran away from me and I chased after it. Never got the photo.
I also saw two grizzly cubs walking along a B.C. highway. Cars pulled over would roll down their windows and feed the bears. A conservation officer pulled up, brought out his rifle and shot them both dead. The tourists formed an angry mob yelling why did they kill the bear. The CO said I didn't, everyone who fed the bear killed it. They became habituated and a nuisance bear in that moment and the ministry is obligated to kill them before they inevitably attack people.
Only seen a wolf once, but we have coyotes everywhere. Really only a threat to pets and small children.
cinoreus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Cause you're Canadian I want to ask, have you encountered a moose?
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 1d
You have more to fear from a moose encounter than any of those predators in truth.
Carnivores might attack if scared or hungry, but herbivores will kill you just to be sure you aren't going to attack them. Just as in Africa, Cape Buffalo are the most dangerous of their big game animals.
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Yes. Many times. The closest I ever got was in Algonquin park, in a canoe maybe 30 ft. It was in kneee deep water feeding as my friend and I and his dad approached quietly. We could see it getting nervous when it peed in anticipation of fight or flight, and we gently backed off and watched from 100 ft or so. It calmed down once we pretended to be interested in the weeds, not it.
I also have family who hunt, so....
I once saw a spirit moose (white, but not albino) in New Brunswick on the highway near Miramichi.
cinoreus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22h
Fucking hell that must have been scary, getting attention of a moose like that.
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17h
Was beautiful.
s3rvant@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1d
Several black bear sightings (and one very close encounter) at a recent vacation in Tennessee
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 3h
So many babies!
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 1d
Two events I've had with bears:
I'm hiking in a nature park by myself on a trail. I see two small black bear shaped voids run across the trail. Then I see one large black bear shaped void run across the trail. I turned around and went back, cutting my hike short.
I'm driving in an undeveloped area and I'm coming up to a construction site. I see a mother and two cubs leap across a construction barrier for the other direction to the median like it wasn't any problem. I commence breaking maneuvers. A car in front of me had stopped as the same family just finished crossing in front of them.
ThisOne@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
2 bears on a hike. Black bears so all i really saw was bear butts running away.
Snakes are scarier. Almost stepped on a greenhead rattler that let me know he was there at the last second. The one copperhead I saw was the scariest, right on the trail in a patch of sun and blended in perfectly. The guy ahead of me.pointed him out or I wouldve stepped on him.
404found@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 8h
I was walking through some forest in Costa Rica to go from my car to the beach. Halfway through I look up to see an adult crocodile about 50 yards away from me.
I was pretty scared because this was a small stretch of forest and didn't expect it. Once I go to the beach I turned my chair to make sure a croc didn't want to eat me or go to the shore of the beach. I later found out crocodiles are really slow. If it was an alligator I might have been toast. I don't believe Costa Rica has native alligators though.
luthis@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 1d
Nope. If there's dangerous animals there, I won't be. They can have their untamed wilderness, and I'll have my internal organs
josteinsn@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Norwegian here. Met quite a few elk on my hikes, once a wolf passed the road some ten metres in front of me an early morning, a brown bears glimpsed far away once or twice -never afraid, always in awe. But also always with respect, knowing full well what they do.
Thanks for the book tip!
CptHacke@piefed.social · 4 pts · 1d
I've had many encounters with black bears (which are omnivores, and not exclusively carnivorous) while hiking over the years. Generally, they are not dangerous to humans if one gives them plenty of room. Most of the time, they'll go right up a tree at the sight of you. The first couple of times I encountered them, I was anxious, but now I almost expect to see them.
I have had two encounters with cougars (also during hiking) that were much more nerve-wracking, as they were much more aggressive (at least on these two occasions. It's possible that cubs were nearby, but I never saw any). Both times, I raised my arms and shouted and made a lot of noise while backing away and keeping them in my sight. I had read that cougars can be unpredictable, and so I was pretty freaked out. Fortunately, I came away from both encounters without a scratch.
Soggy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
I was quite near a black bear once but with a group of people so I felt pretty secure. It actually followed us for like a mile walking late at night, middle of winter along a mountain road. Technically I don't know it was a black bear because we didn't see it, but we heard it keeping pace in the darkness maybe fifty feet away and it's the only thing (other than Bigfoot) that checks all the boxes for that behavior. A deer wouldn't be doing that and if it had been a mountain lion we wouldn't have heard it.
I've seen brown bears from a distance and from inside a car. I've been close to coyotes, swam near sharks, always with people or with some kind of barrier.
The one that freaked me out was different. I was living in California and regularly hiked the nearby trails, my favorite being up Cerro San Luis. One day I decided I wanted to watch the sunset from the peak so I grabbed my water bottle and walking stick (tall and pointy) and set out in the evening. It was gorgeous! Fog rolled in right as the horizon lit up all shades of red, really breathtaking. I watched until it got dark and that's when I realized I had neglected to bring a light of any kind. (This would have been ~2012. Whatever phone I had was not particularly useful for illumination.) The night was moonless, and the trail was now blanketed in thick fog.
I got lost.
I took the wrong turn at a fork and didn't realize until I was clear under the fog a mile or two the wrong direction. While contemplating my situation I happened to glance a dark shape just barely silhouetted against the clouds. Something on four legs that watched me for a few moments then silently melted away. In that moment I remembered seeing "mountain lion sighting" warning signs at the trailhead earlier that month and felt an intense, primal sensation I've not experienced before or since. Being stalked, being hunted, in such a precarious position... I picked up a large stone and waited in silence for at least ten minutes, grateful the whole time that I always hiked with my stick, before I decided it was safe to pick my way back up to where I got turned around. Slowly, cautiously, nauseous from the adrenaline, until on the main trail I ran into a family of four merrily returning from the top with headlamps and I rather sheepishly asked to join them. (They were nice about it). I don't night-hike solo anymore.
In the light of a new day I went back and looked around and I'm pretty sure what I saw was a large bobcat rather than a mountain lion, which would have still been worrying given the circumstance of being nearly blind, so I wasn't in as much mortal danger as I felt. In the moment I'm not sure if "afraid" is the right word. Yes there was fear but it was tempered by other instincts. I was prepared to fight that animal with a rock and a pointy stick just like our distant ancestors would have, and everything in my mind and body was shifted into that very specific gear. No coherent "I could die here" thoughts or anything like that.
I'm glad they're out there. Even if I had been attacked I wouldn't bear them any ill will, that's just carnivores being carnivores. I was more careful after that to avoid a similar situation but I don't want wild spaces to lose their large predators. It's pretty easy to be safe and share the planet.
ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1d
Saw a black bear once when I was visiting the Rocky mountains a few summers ago. It was just hanging out eating berries at the edge of the woods beside the parking lot at one of the national parks.
Most of the people just watched or took pictures from a respectful distance. I was delighted to have the opportunity to see a bear in the wild in a (mostly) safe way. I did look around to make sure there was somebody I could outrun, though. You don't have to outrun the bear...
Big carnivores mostly want nothing to do with people and I think we should leave them alone as much as possible. Sometimes they learn behaviour that makes them dangerous to innocent people (e.g. if somebody feeds them) and being a danger to innocent people is really the only reason I can think of that would justify killing them. There have to be better ways to deal with carnivores attacking livestock and such.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Several big ass fat black bears in my yard, including one charging straight at me because my neighbors dog was chasing it, thankfully they’re scared of literally everything and it’s never been an issue. Other than that maybe a large bobcat
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 6h
A shark. Maybe 7~8 foot long but not thick like a tiger or anything truly scary. Still scared tf out of me so I kinda froze in place ready to fight but it turned away about a foot or two away from me, and disappeared and I rushed back on the boat. My heart was racing hard.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Damn, some people have very interesting lives! I've only seen a fox, and that was at my previous place which had a garden. I was just worried about my cat so I called her in... but I think she could've taken the fox NGL. 😼🤣
noxypaws@pawb.social · 3 pts · 4h
Nah but the next backyard over has been the venue for a spirited yipfest by a pack of coyotes. A few times over the years. I love it every time, even the one morning they woke me up early, it was so awesome that I didn't mind.
psud@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1d
Australia has none except crocodiles, I have seen crocs in the wild
I saw black bears in Canada from the car
I'm glad the animal we had that was hippo-like in behaviour - a dangerous herbivore - is extinct. We have the old bunyip stories telling us to keep out of swampy parts of rivers.
A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com · 3 pts · 19h
Some other apex predators probably count as 'large carnivores'. For example, apart from crocs (especially salties), Wedge-tailed eagles come to mind. They are an apex predator, carnivorous, with a maximum wingspan of almost 3m (which I think counts as large). Arguably a dingo is big enough to count as well (since OP's link counts wolverines & lynxes).
kat_angstrom@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Lots of moose, several bears, elk, deer. The coolest I've seen in the wild though was probably a full grown, big adult wolverine. That last one was fun times camping in northern Alberta, just south of the NWT border.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1d
I've run into coyotes, if that counts. You hear them constantly, but they're shy, so when you do see them up close it's kinda cool. When it's happened with other people they've been freaked out, but coyotes just don't attack adult humans. They're really wired to eat ground squirrels (aka "gophers") and rabbits; small things.
I've been through grizzly bear habitat, but not enough to have one show itself. If it did, I'd probably just mind my business and give it a wide berth. I did know a guy who got eaten, but that's so rare it doesn't really change my mind. They're alright.
Honourable mention for moose, which are pretty aggressive, are fucking huge and do scare me. Like, I'm still fine with them as a concept, and seeing a wild animal that big is amazing if you're in a safe place, but if something's going to happen to me, it's either a human or a moose.
Soggy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
I'd also be more worried about crossing paths with a moose than any predator (other than a polar bear), they'll stomp you to death for existing too close and can't be reasoned with.
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 4h
I've seen bears out in the woods, and walking down the road in front of my house. Also foxes, although they aren't big. They were chill, so I was chill. Obviously not interested in anything I was doing.
Jarlsburg@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
When I was 7 my parents took me to Sea World (it was a long time ago and I was too young to recognize the cruelty of their enclosures). My dad told them it was my birthday and they picked me to be the kid that participates in one of the shows. The whales were rebelling though (obvious why now), and they ended up canceling the show. The trainer held me back though and let me go in the back with him to their home pool.
There was a fat yellow line about 15 feet from the perimeter of the pool and I asked why. The trainer told me to take a step over the line. I did and within 2 seconds an adult male orca crested his eye above the water to look at me, just stationary in the water. It was the most potent flight or fight response in my life and I just froze. Those things weigh 5 tons and can move at 35mph and you can see their intelligence in their eyes.
That quickly ended my fascination with whales as a kid.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Plenty of alligators, some of them big. They are in most every body of water here, and as long as nobody feeds them or does anything stupid, they don't bother people. Also saw a fox, once. Out in the suburbs. Lots of big birds here, sandhill cranes, hawks, herons. I know cormorants raid fish farms, so I guess they affect livestock.
Tiral@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
The fog hung low across the damp pine needles of the Cascades as dusk settled, turning the dense timber into an endless sea of twilight shadows. I had pulled over off the logging road to stretch my legs, the cold autumn air biting at my jacket, with nothing breaking the silence except the distant drip of moisture falling from the canopy.
Then the forest went dead quiet. No birds, no rustling squirrels, just a heavy, sudden pressure in the air that made the hairs on the back of my neck stand straight up.
A sharp, wooden crack echoed from forty yards up the ridge—the sound of a thick branch snapping with unnatural force. I froze, my breath catching in my throat as I scanned the thicket of Douglas firs. At first, I thought it was a downed tree or a black bear, but then the dark mass stood up.
It rose on two legs, unfolding to a height that made the surrounding saplings look small. It had to be at least eight feet tall, broad-shouldered enough to block out the remaining daylight behind it, and covered in matted, dark reddish-brown fur. It didn't move with the awkwardness of a human in a suit or the sway of a bear. It moved with fluid, massive power, turning its entire upper torso to face me.
For five endless seconds, we locked eyes. Its face was heavily lined and leathery beneath a sloped brow, with eyes that caught the dim light like obsidian. There was no growl, no aggressive chest-beating—just an overwhelming, intelligent stillness that filled the woods.
It took one slow, deliberate step backward, merging seamlessly into the deep shadows of the brush. A second later, the brush swayed, and it was gone, leaving only the faint, pungent scent of wet earth and copper in the air. I stood frozen in the stillness, listening to my own heart hammering against my ribs, knowing the woods would never look the same again.
MunkyNutts@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Two different days bow hunting turkeys, I ran into black bears. The first one was a younger one, I was heading back to camp, not being particularly observant and then sensed something, looked up and a mid size black bear was about 10-15 yards from me. We both seemed to not notice each other, I just froze and watched him, it started to sniff the air, I began yelling at it and it didn't seem to care. I slowly started to walk away keeping faced toward it, it still seemed pretty interested in me and started to walk towards me. I nocked an arrow and was ready to shoot it, I didn't want to but at that moment I had no other option, didn't have bear spray me. Slowly bent down and pick up a broken pine branch and threw it at it, just short of it and that frighten it enough to take off. A few days later again hiking around looking for turkey, off in the distance I could see something walking through dense brush, watched it for a while until I realized it was another black bear, this one much larger than the other. It didn't realize I was there, so I screamed a deep loud growl as loud as I could, frightening it, it took off on a dead sprint perpendicular to me, and watched it take off and could hear it for awhile crashing through the brush. I've crossed Mexican gray wolves, coyotes, and bobcats several times while outdoors hunting.
I love it all, I have a deep respect for nature and the animals out there.
yesman@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
At Sequoya National park the bears get crazy close. I was laying half outside my tent stargazing with binoculars and a bear walked through my camp. He didn't get close enough to touch, but we could have shaken paws.
On the beach I found mountain lion tracks once. This was weird because I was alone and the beach was a 2 mile hike from the parking lot.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 2 pts · 1d
We all have met OP's mom, haven't we?
rmuk@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 1h
I'mI saw eight bears on Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway back in the nineties: a mother and six cubs on one day, and an adult on its own on another. Those fuckers are big.
More recently I was on a coach from Vilnius to Warsaw and saw loads of wolves. Those fuckers are big.
For both occasions I felt something like a distant, muted, primal fear and I was very grateful to be inside a vehicle.
Not a carnivore, but a few years ago I was hiking alone in northern Norway and I came across a small group of reindeer who obviously took a liking to me and followed me for about two hours, very close. They were big enough to do some damage but I didn't feel even slightly threatened by them, nor them by me, apparently. Those fuckers stink.
The_v@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
I have traveled a little bit.
Larger predators: Grizzly bears, black bears, cougers, jaguars, lynx, alligators, crocodiles, and a few different species of sharks.
Mid sized predator like coyotes, foxes, badgers, and even a wolverines I run across more frequently.
JapaneseJudas@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 1h
Quite a few actually. Alligators and sharks mostly. Give them space and they usually will leave you alone. Life is risk. 🤷♂️
Kennystillalive@feddit.org · 2 pts · 1d
I was followed by a fox once. Does that count?
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
Black bear, doe moose, whale.
Black bear fled immediately, moose stood there as moose do, and whale was uninterested.
I walked through a field and stand of trees for months, back and forth to work, before learning a cougar sleeps nearby and probably saw my delicious nerd self - such marbling - twice a day.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 1d
A møøse once bit my sister
verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1d
By the way, I don't think I get to decide how to manage these predators, as I don't live in an area where they affect daily life. It would be arrogant of me to tell British Columbia how to deal with bears or Wyoming how to deal with wolves. The predators here were driven out or killed along with the buffalo and many, many other good things that belong. It's sad, but I'm also glad that I don't have to plan for safety because of them.
TipRing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14m
Orca and seals, though they aren't aggressive to humans of course. Coyotes and bears on land. The latter at a distance, which was both of our preference.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 5h
In northern mn. Wolves.
I was walking on a trail to a river one day, I was gonna go fishing for walleye. It was a nice enough day, early autum, the leaves were just starting to change.
As I was walking along I became aware, slowly, that something was stalking me. At my first glance of it, I became relieved to see a dog. But even as I was relieved, I knew not to trust that feeling.
I whistled an patted my legs, yelling at it to come here. It walked out of the underbrush and looked back at me. I realized it came up to my hips, and I'm not a small dude. But it was those eyes looking back at me, that's how I knew.
So, I kept walking. Thinking there hasn't been a wolf attack in living memory. It'll be fine.
It kept following me. Getting ever closer. Finally I spin around to face it. It lowered itself on its front legs, ready to lunge. This is when I decided, no.
I would NOT be prey. I'm a human. Not since a comet ce calling has any force on this earth extincted more species. I have arms, I have thumbs. I come from a proud line of genocidal, jumped up apes.
So I get down on my haunches, grasp at the forest floor. A rock, a stick, anything would do. Well that's when my clumsy fat ass fell backwards.
And I saw them. Other wolves had circled around to my backside. Ready to pounce. The first wolf was just to trap me. So much for a proud lineage of violence apes.
So I sat there and waited for the end. And just as sudden, the pack just melts back into the underbrush. Except for that first wolf, who comes right up to me, and says "I need about tree fiddy"
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · -3 pts · 1d
I don't understand being angry about nature being natural.
Also, carnivores aren't the most dangerous animals, necessarily.
More people are killed by elk and moose than anything else (I think elk tops the list because they're so prolific and don't avoid people, while moose tend to be out where people don't go).