Trump undergoes medical exam for swelling in legs, hand bruising

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5406650-trump-vein-condition-mild-swelling/

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kibiz0r@midwest.social · 125 pts · 1y (2 replies)

The doctor said Trump had a minor problem.

Which is exactly what the Epstein list said, too.

SerotoninSwells@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y

🥇

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 1y

also wishiNG GHISLAINE maxwell" i wish her well"

CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 109 pts · 1y (19 replies)

He’s maxed out on the blood thinners. I think that accounts for both described symptoms. I am not a doctor, but I did watch all of House, twice.

Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 1y (12 replies)

Tbh it sounds like hes having a heart failure (finally), I just cannot believe ol Mac didnt hit him sooner

Lucky_777@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 1y (8 replies)

Don't do that to me. Don't give me hope.

Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y (7 replies)

Im only speculating, based on what i remember from EMT and MA training. Tell tale signs though, and unfortunately is somewhat fixable. I doubt surgery will kill him but bad diet afterwards might. But its a president so .......

halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 1y (1 reply)

There is no way he adjusts his diet at all. He believes the body has a battery with a finite amount of energy and exercise is bad because it depletes that battery faster. There's no way he has the mental capacity to understand he needs to change his eating habits when the doctors advise it.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-h-word/2017/may/15/trumps-theory-exercise-victorian-britain-eugenics-sexism

Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1y

And recall that his previous doctor had suggested hiding some green vegetables in his mashed potatoes or something, like over does for a child, just to get him to eat healthier. And this was like 6 years ago

Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y (2 replies)

At his age with his potential comorbidities? Surgery of any kind is absolutely a possible killer.

WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I don't want him to die that easy. I want him to be mocked and to rot sowly. Maybe live another century at least.

QuarterSwede@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

Surgery on the elder is risky also because their minds don’t take anesthesia well. A lot don’t come back as the same people, their memories are wrecked, and usually they don’t last but a few more years after.

Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Nearly half of all patients with heart failure have a normal ejection fraction (EF). The prevalence of this syndrome, termed heart failure with preserved ejection fraction (HFpEF), continues to increase in the developed world, likely because of the increasing prevalence of common risk factors, including older age, female sex, hypertension, metabolic syndrome, renal dysfunction and obesity. However, we should be aware that the president's ejection fraction has not been disclosed, nor has his BNP, Creatinine & GFR (or troponins/EKG). When was his last ECHO and Stress Test???

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1y

i wouldnt be surprised hes also diabetic, or pre-diabetic, which would worsen these conditions.

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Yeah, edema (fluid gathering, causing swelling) is a classic sign of diastolic heart failure. It’s caused by the muscle fibers of the heart stiffening, which reduces the heart’s ability to expand and draw fresh blood in between beats. Usually caused by a lack of exercise. The heart can’t draw blood back up from the legs, which increases blood pressure in the legs as blood gets pumped down but not back up. This extra pressure in the legs forces fluid out of the veins and into the surrounding tissues, causing swelling.

Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1y

totally screws with his kidneys hampering their ability to filter fluids.

mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y

Also if he's been wearing compression dressings it would explain the photos from a while back where he clearly had something on his legs under his pants.

meyotch@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It’s NEVER lupus, until it is.

ksigley@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

Eyo

Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 1y

the blood thinners won't save him... he should also be on the statins and auxiliary anti cholesterols.... Additionally, he should be using a CPAP or BiPaP for his sleep apnea so could actually get decent sleep. But instead he just stays up and posts on his stupid social platform and watches cable tv instead.

NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

Thats basically a doctor, you can use WebMD right?

SilverCode@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y

Twice!? Those are rookie numbers!

ksigley@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
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dhork@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 1y (10 replies)

If he's admitting to having something minor, then he must be at death's door....

Wouldn't it be ironic if Biden outlives him?

nulluser@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 1y (3 replies)

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 1y (2 replies)

lol that can’t be real

Edit: jesus christ this is the dumbest fucking timeline

Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1y (1 reply)

My neighbor said this about Biden about a year ago. Our kids are friends, and they are very nice people. It's the only time something remotely political has come up between us. Ever since then, I have made extra sure to not broach politics around her, because I'm pretty sure her views are extraordinarily stupid and if I hear anymore I will respect her a lot less. I kind of laughed it off at the time, but I'm pretty sure she was being serious. Her and her husband are both Church going folk and the husband is a cop, so I'm pretty sure I know where they lie on the political spectrum. Imo ifyou're willing to believe there's an invisible man in the sky that's going to solve all your problems, I guess all these conspiracy theories are easier to believe.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1y

I was thinking “wtf are you doing giving them the mental space to be complete psychopaths” and then “the husband is a cop”… so yeah, maybe don’t show your hand to those chucklefucks. Slowly backing away is the safer choice.

Monument@lemmy.sdf.org · 24 pts · 1y

Oh, come on. Completely unrealistic. He’d never admit anything about the minors.

Steve@startrek.website · 13 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Trump fucked a minor you say?

dhork@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

A lot of people are saying that....

Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1y

"a". No. That's not what they are saying.

Trump fucks minors.

NChiwana76@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

I was hoping Carter would have, I’ll take Biden though.

Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y

Esp w/stage 4 cancer.... Yes, it would be ironic.

Pupsocks@lemmy.ca · 43 pts · 1y (13 replies)

Isn't this a sign of heart failure?

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 43 pts · 1y (2 replies)

What heart?

setsubyou@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1y

Chest Void Failure

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 1y

its filled with cholesterol and deep fried oil.

Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I can't wait for the signs of heart failed

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

not if he strokes out first from the DVT sending a clot. he most likely will be on anti-clotting medication long term.

Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y

So the next shattered plate could be his last?

Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Yes, but also liver and kidney. They attributed the bruising on his hands to frequent hand shaking or aspirin use. Aspirin use is pretty hard on the liver. If we could see his natural skin color, jaundice could narrow it down to liver failure.

Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y (1 reply)

How would you know if he had jaundice with all the orange paint and all?

RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

I think it also effects the eyes

Alaik@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Pedal edema is a sign of heart failure yes.

At his age with his lifestyle and diet? Dude has CHF fullstop. How advanced though is another matter.

suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 1y

At his age with his lifestyle and diet? Dude has CHF fullstop

Look, I know the world will be a better place without this clown, but this just isn't how health risk works. Most smokers don't get lung cancer. Most drinkers don't get liver disease. Most people who die young don't have any especially unhealthy habits. Life just isn't fair in this way and pretending it is denigrates a lot of good people who are suffering.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1y

also him wearing those lifts and girdle isnt helping either.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 1y

deep vein thrombosis can result ina clot that reaches the heart, lungs or brain, aka stroke. one of my grandparents had a-fib which caused a large stroke to dislodge and went to the brain

synae@lemmy.sdf.org · 38 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Best of luck to the swelling and bruising

TBi@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Thoughts and prayers

TheCynicalSaint@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y

Thoughts and clots!

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 1y

wish him well.

renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf · 37 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Please please please

RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y (1 reply)

We can't be so lucky it's probably just a masturbation accident

renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 1y

Protect your children everyone.

moakley@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

🤞 🤞

nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 1y (12 replies)

President Vance, with a tactical hamberder, in a furniture store.

crapwittyname@feddit.uk · 18 pts · 1y (10 replies)

In fifty years, people will be writing essays about why this comment makes sense and is hilarious.

\\ Hello future essay writers, I hope you have accrued enough credits to keep your crate cool tonight!\\

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y (9 replies)

If I am not dead in fifty years I dread to imagine what a 75 year old me would be like. I would prefer not to get to that stage though, I'm cool with dying before I'm 40.

Also future essay writers I fucked your grandmother's.

Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Most of GenX did not expect to live long enough to collect SS.

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y (3 replies)

It's an aspiration, also I kind expect for a civil conflict of some type to kick off sooner or later where I will probably bleed out in an irrigation ditch or something.

aesthelete@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I think this civil conflict will look more like the Irish troubles, and that it's already begun.

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y

My money is on troubles then something akin to the break up of Yugoslavia and the following wars.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y

Or the long period of guerrilla activity that preceded the Civil War.

BigPotato@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

If I don't go down in a hail of gunfire long before then, allow me to say, include me in the screenshot. In this case, include me in the academic citation as well.

Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y

You: "I'm cool with dying before I'm 40."

Genie: Done! You're wish is granted.

You: But nothing's changed?

Genie: Correct.

Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I'm cool with dying before I'm 40.

Lots of people think that but they usually change their mind when they grow a bit older.

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y

It's called passive suicidality, I want to die but am overridden from killing myself by my instincts and pride.

drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

Release the IKEA list!

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 34 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I hear JD Vance is shopping for new Oval Office couches.

Apparently those Arhaus Kiptons are sexy yet classy.

whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y

I read "Oral Orifice couches"

Asafum@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 1y

JD getting ready before his next meeting:

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Team Hamberder for the point:

The exam found Trump, who is 79, has chronic venous insufficiency. The condition happens when an individual’s leg veins struggle to pump blood back to the heart, causing blood to pool, according to The Cleveland Clinic.

Leavitt said there was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis, which is a blood clot, or arterial disease, which can include blockages.

drzoidberg@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1y

So what we can gather from prior statements from Leavitt, there is plenty of evidence of deep vein thrombosis, with blockages.

wise_pancake@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 1y

Is that why the stock market is up today?

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 1y

all those hamburgers, and him being overweight, plus he wears those lifts and girdle, which doesnt help.

habitualcynic@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 1y (1 reply)

The exam found Trump, 79, has chronic venous insufficiency.

As someone who has been treated for this, I can confidently say bullshit. His ankles are swollen like he got them beaten and broken with a crow bar for not paying his debts.

My professional medical diagnosis is he has demon legs with no knees.

Source: making it up but I’m right.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1y

its call cankles.

Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 1y (5 replies)

BS He has heart failure perhaps without decreased ejection fraction. He has obviously getting diuretic injections into his hand on a daily basis vs just taking a pill. But it is not common for anyone to have lower extremity edema without some kind of systemic issue. I assume he has already tried wearing compression socks. Another lie to add on top of all the others.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 1y (4 replies)

does he even listen to his doctors advice, i feel like hes one of those people that believe the contrary

Blackmist@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 1y

Now more than ever is RFK Jr's time to shine. Go on Robert, prescribe him a slab of raw bear meat or something.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

He never did exercise because “the body is like a battery”, and he didn’t want to “deplete” it.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y

Figures he wouldn't know about rechargeable batteries, being stuck in the 80s.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y

I read that as he believes the coronary

LMurch@thelemmy.club · 19 pts · 1y

Where I come from, we called this, "a good start".

besselj@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 1y (10 replies)

The doctor says he's fit as a horse

ccunning@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 1y (5 replies)

…at a glue factory

ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 1y (3 replies)

wise_pancake@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

The cow in that logo is too damn smug

three@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y

He's just proud of what he's become.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1y

elmers is non-toxic,

Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y

What do you mean you’re at glue?

Asafum@feddit.nl · 8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

The horse:

...I wish

WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

Kick it a few more times

Magister@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

yeah I thought his doctor said he never saw an athlete like him, that he could do a marathon or a superbowl, and he is almost 7ft and 220lbs of muscle, or something?

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y

A super bowl of gravy.

aesthelete@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y (2 replies)

He almost certainly has something worse if this is what he's admitting to.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

he also refuses to wear reading glasses prescribed to him.

Blackmist@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 1y

No point since I suspect he can barely read anyway.

mechoman444@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 1y (4 replies)

You know what... Take away everything Trump has done, take away the alleged assassination attempt, the health issues all of it.

THE MAN IS 80!!! He's too fucking old to be working any job let alone president of the United States!!!

Just fucking retire!

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 3 pts · 1y (3 replies)

You know who will be president if he does?

supernight52@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Yep, someone without the cult of personality backing him. So, generally, better for everyone involved.

GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

Yep, senators and congress people are not afraid of Vance like they are of trump. It would/will be an interesting turn of events if ol' couch fucker gets a shot at the big desk.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y

🛋️ 🥵

NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Did they check to see if he had a brain? We know he never had a heart.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y

No brain, heart, OR courage.

lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I love that the first indisputable evidence that Trump has a heart arrived at the same time as the evidence that it is malfunctioning.

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

The malfunctioning is apt.

hddsx@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 1y (3 replies)

What do you mean venous insufficiency? Die fuhrer has the most sufficient veins anyone has ever seen! In fact, they operate at 150% more efficient than the healthiest athlete!

womjunru@lemmy.cafe · 6 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Even better than Kim Jong Un and Xi Jinping. Thick American veins.

hddsx@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

That’s right. Make America Veiny Again

womjunru@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 1y

Mmm MAVA, thick, hardened veins… nothing turns me on like Chronic Venous Insufficiency!

Lucky_777@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y

The doomsday clock just gained a second or two

Supervisor194@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y

I wonder why we aren't getting the typical bullshit fluff piece this time.

burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y (3 replies)
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TheCleric@lemmy.org · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Spontaneously composting.

Bam you’re fertile dirt.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1y

dont you mean decomposing.

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

i think he's already partially compost.

kebab@endlesstalk.org · 9 pts · 1y (10 replies)

If he actually dies, would JD Vance replace him? Actually, maybe then Trump’s not that bad then…

Tronn4@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y

Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y (5 replies)

Yes.

kebab@endlesstalk.org · 4 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Damn, can’t believe I’d ever say this but please don’t die within the next 3 years, Donald

Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Nah it’s better that way. Trump is being carried by his incredible support from the MAGA base. Without Trump that will disappear overnight.

WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 1y (2 replies)

We hope.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

He's already nuked a big chunk of support with the epstein stuff, and vance doesn't really have the charisma to win the back. It will be entertaining regardless.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 1y

thiel keeps a tight leash on him, and people would start questions Vances crossdressing in college eventually.

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y

I'd rather have Vance. Policies are just as evil, but he doesn't have what it takes to be a cult leader. Remember, the Nazis needed Hitler.

mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

The entire line of succession is currently 100% Republican. It goes from Vance to RFK Jr all the way to Noem. So yes, it looks bad either way.

InternetRando@lemmy.myserv.one · 3 pts · 1y
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dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 1y (2 replies)
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

"handshake" a simple handshake isnt going to bruise you.

dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 1y

Oh lol. Thank you! All this time I thought that meant shaky hands.

MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Thoughts and no prayers.

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

we are praying.

Pulsa diNura is a prayer

Toneswirly@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Is it bad that I got a lil excited reading this headline

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y

are you giddy because an elderly man is reaching the end of his earthly time, or because the most deranged pedophilic fascist will finally do one thing that makes the world a better place?

NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y

nope

regedit@feddit.online · 2 pts · 1y

lil excited

Hell, I'm half-chub. See this fucker over that mortal finish line and I'll fill the cup!

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y

No just makes ya a tad bit sadistic. I ain't one to criticize, I want expand Charlie Kirks too small face with a jack knife.

Doorbook@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

I forgot about the Epstein list

apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y (5 replies)

There's a reason he is pushing Coca-cola to use cane sugar.

CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 5 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Is cane sugar actually any healthier than HFCS?

apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (2 replies)

No but people who huff ivermectin and don't believe in vaccines generally believe it is safer/healthier than sucrose.

sad_detective_man@leminal.space · 3 pts · 1y

I literally just think it tastes better but I'm autistic and most of us seem overly into diet soda. Anyway, the dudes a fucking pedophile and I hope his feet go necrotic but at least there's sugar in the cocaine juice again.

vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y

It also tastes a bit better, only good thing I can say about Mormons is that their soda shops are actually pretty good.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y

No. People act like it is though. They're very similar chemically speaking.

anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

K but who gets the fatwa? The doctor?

Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y

Well there actually is a Fatwa on him thanks to his Iran bombing.... However I don't believe that will take him out (unlike the actual gifted Rushdie). I think it will be the bacon cheezberders and freedom fries. All that fucking salt.

fluxion@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

He's wishes it was his hands swelling but sometimes those are the breaks

FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 3 pts · 1y

Blood clots?

RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

July 21st, 11:00pm

k0e3@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y

Fingers crossed!

WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

“I'm the healthiest pedo ever!”🫲🍊🫱

solrize@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y

Diabetes?