itās sneaky racism, the implication being, āblack people are rude and inconsiderateā
which is, of course, a common racist stereotype.
blackpeopletwitter on reddit is about 100% dedicated to furthering thatā¦
ā¦.
nazis have been strategizing ways to spread their hate online since before computers had pictures on them.
but the divider is so the person behind you can start unloading their cart onto the conveyer, and the cashier wonāt mix up your groceries with theirsā¦
But there's a lot of other peoples than white and black, why would white people stereotypically doing something be targeting specifically black people, in your opinion?
Yeah fuck that noise! You're supposed to wait until they accidentally scan the next persons items and then make them get a manager to make the correction like God intended!
Or you can just avoid that and use the divider so the cashier knows when they're done with your items...
In theory leaving a significant amount of space should give the cashier enough information, but then again, we don't live in a world where everything is as it should be...
The belts usually move forward automatically, eliminating any space left intentionally between two groups of things on it once the first group has been removed from the belt.
Maybe, but they're paying attention to the task of scanning items, running the register, and the customer at the front of the line. I don't really think it's reasonable to expect them to keep an eye on that moving target as well. I've seen the very thing happen: Loading my stuff on to the belt, trying to leave a space because there is no divider available, the cashier is busy concentrating on the other things they are doing and the customer in front of them (not me and my stuff), they grab the last item of the other person's stuff, scan it and bag it, turn back to check for more stuff (by this time and while the cashier's back is turned the void I'd left is gone because the belt doesn't stop advancing until a divider or product blocks the sensor). They may not ever see a gap (only the next item to be scanned).
There's no perfect solution here, but I don't see any reason to heap any more responsibility or blame on to an overworked, underpaid, daily abused retail worker just trying to stay sane in one of the most soul crushing and mind-numbingly repetitive jobs I've ever known.
I mean if the line is busy and theres people waiting behind you, the stick is awesome. But then ive also had times where the clerk is checking out the last few items of the person in line when i walk up, theres no one behind me, a big empty space on the conveyor belt, and when i start placing my items at rhe end of the belt clearly separated by the big empty space, the grandma in front of me passive aggressively slaps down the stick. Like wtf im not trying to sneak my shit in with your order, its pretty obvious whose is whose.
Is that a white thing? I do love it, but I don't know if it has anything to do with my race. It makes it easier for the cashier to tell when one person's groceries end without having to pay attention to who is putting what on the belt.
I haven't lived in a predominantly-white area in over 20 years and I have never been in a situation where someone should have used a divider and didn't...so I have hundreds of data points to back yours up
In my country the cashiers will place the divider beforehand if you forget to do it and while the current customer is paying... So yes, the divider is for the cashier not for the customers.
I don't get it. I don't want to stand in line longer waiting while the cashier unscans my items from the person ahead's order or unscans the next persons items from my order. They also often fuck it up anyway but still
The stick is a universal if you have a cart of groceries, we all need the stick in those times to guide us. The thing that gets me is when I put a hand basket on the belt and the person in front of me gives me the stink eye and slaps the stick between their loose groceries and my contained and obviously separate basket of groceries like I was trying to trick them to pay for my stuff. Itās not just white or old people, though, being a douche is a human quality, not a racial or generational thing.
Itās a hand basket, there are at most two bags worth of stuff in it. If youāve got a bunch of heavy shit that needs separated then youāre doing it wrong.
I always empty my basket onto the conveyor. Seems rude of me to assume the cashier should reach over and into a basket just to ring up my goods. Do you also make them unload your buggy when you use those?
I wouldn't have any problem with not having this stick, but cashiers can't seem to tell that a six-inch distance between my order and the next order is a good place to stop. Then we're all sitting around for an extra couple of minutes while they try to get someone to come and authorize voiding the items.
Always struck me as a city thing, not a white people thing.
Maybe things have changed, but in the small town where I grew up, people generally wouldn't bother.
there would usually be a gap delineating one persons items from the other's anyways
the person who was professionally scanning our groceries 100% had the expertise to see the gap and comprehend its meaning
If (I never ever saw it happen, ever) they had grabbed something, someone would have noticed, said "whoops, that's not mine". Nobody would think someone was trying a scam.
I feel like this is an amazing measure of someone's general level of anxiety. Or maybe a measure of how little credit they give the person scanning groceries? Both?
Seems to me that it's about how present the cashier is. I've made sure to leave a huge gap and they still paid so little attention they were confused about whose stuff was whose.
Not totally relevant, but: that little tub of Philadelphia cream cheese is like $8 nowadays. What in the ever-loving fuck? And yet you can still buy a brick of that shit for $1.60. Trying to get cream cheese out of that folded-over piece of foil is certainly annoying, but it's worth paying 5X as much to get it out of a convenient tub instead? Make it make sense.
Thats not true. The history of segerated bathrooms are worse than that... during the Victorian era, public bathrooms were men only. Women were not expected to travel from their home, or carry piss pots with them. Women had to fight for their right to have access to facilities. Also employers used the excuse of lack of women facilities to not hire women. The reason segerated bathrooms exist in building codes are because of decades of women fighting for their rights...
The only sexual harassment that I hear about in restrooms are either trans people being harassed or cisgender people being accused of being trans. Both of these problems go away when you have desegregated restrooms.
Sure, but they're more likely to harass you if the law is on their side. If we only made laws that everybody would follow, then there would be no laws.
Yeah man, because it's definitely the trans kid doing the pee-pee dance and not the officer snapping coochie picks for "safety" we should be worrying about.
That's the same argument from a different false equivalency. Co-ed bathrooms exist all around the world. The fact that uncle Jim can't stop fantasizing about watching someone pee shouldn't stop other men from using the public restroom.
109 Comments
Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz · 153 pts · 357d
If you purposefully don't use the divider, you shouldn't be allowed to shop there. Also, what the hell does this have to do with race?
ohellidk@sh.itjust.works · 49 pts · 357d
Right? I'm not paying for your shit!
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 357d
That's racist!
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 355d
Venmo me some reparations
ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
Racist.
traceur201@piefed.social · 15 pts · 357d
4chan style racial garbage? in my fediverse? it's more likely than I think š
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 356d
itās sneaky racism, the implication being, āblack people are rude and inconsiderateā
which is, of course, a common racist stereotype.
blackpeopletwitter on reddit is about 100% dedicated to furthering thatā¦
ā¦.
nazis have been strategizing ways to spread their hate online since before computers had pictures on them.
Linearity@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 355d
I thought the point is white people are silly and do unnecessary stuff
Well either way racism is bad chat
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 355d
but the divider is so the person behind you can start unloading their cart onto the conveyer, and the cashier wonāt mix up your groceries with theirsā¦
everyone does unnecessary and silly thingsā¦.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 355d
Why specifically black people? Doesn't it just mean every other people doesn't use it
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 355d
no
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 355d
But there's a lot of other peoples than white and black, why would white people stereotypically doing something be targeting specifically black people, in your opinion?
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 355d
the style itās written in and the stereotype itās perpetuating.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 355d
Seems pretty normal writing to me? What stereotype?
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 355d
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 355d
It just seems such a self-own to say how the divider is a white people thing. You're putting yourself down there lol
Hawke@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 357d
āSegregationā is referring for āracial segregationā, probably specific to the historical policy in the US.
Hope this helps~
Asafum@feddit.nl · 104 pts · 357d
Yeah fuck that noise! You're supposed to wait until they accidentally scan the next persons items and then make them get a manager to make the correction like God intended!
Or you can just avoid that and use the divider so the cashier knows when they're done with your items...
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 357d
In theory leaving a significant amount of space should give the cashier enough information, but then again, we don't live in a world where everything is as it should be...
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 30 pts · 357d
The belts usually move forward automatically, eliminating any space left intentionally between two groups of things on it once the first group has been removed from the belt.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · -9 pts · 357d
Yeah but cashiers have eyes and can see that there is space behind the last item they are currently grabbing, I would think.
I use dividers when I can, but sometimes not enough of them are available.
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 16 pts · 357d
Maybe, but they're paying attention to the task of scanning items, running the register, and the customer at the front of the line. I don't really think it's reasonable to expect them to keep an eye on that moving target as well. I've seen the very thing happen: Loading my stuff on to the belt, trying to leave a space because there is no divider available, the cashier is busy concentrating on the other things they are doing and the customer in front of them (not me and my stuff), they grab the last item of the other person's stuff, scan it and bag it, turn back to check for more stuff (by this time and while the cashier's back is turned the void I'd left is gone because the belt doesn't stop advancing until a divider or product blocks the sensor). They may not ever see a gap (only the next item to be scanned).
There's no perfect solution here, but I don't see any reason to heap any more responsibility or blame on to an overworked, underpaid, daily abused retail worker just trying to stay sane in one of the most soul crushing and mind-numbingly repetitive jobs I've ever known.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 357d
I agree. It should be that stores just provide enough dividers that the problem doesn't arise.
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 357d
As someone who was once a cashier, not everyone places their items logically.
Mac@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 356d
Sounds space inefficient.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 355d
And the other person doesn't get to unload their cart as early
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 356d
Since its a continuous belt loop, a significant amount of space behind the next customer could mean placing your items right at the front of the belt.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 355d
Wasting space
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 84 pts · 357d
"Huhuh you use a thing that makes social interactions in an often stressful and tiring situation a bit easier. You weirdo."
(...?)
emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 357d
I mean if the line is busy and theres people waiting behind you, the stick is awesome. But then ive also had times where the clerk is checking out the last few items of the person in line when i walk up, theres no one behind me, a big empty space on the conveyor belt, and when i start placing my items at rhe end of the belt clearly separated by the big empty space, the grandma in front of me passive aggressively slaps down the stick. Like wtf im not trying to sneak my shit in with your order, its pretty obvious whose is whose.
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 357d
Uh, I do this but it's not to protect my thing or some shit, it's to provide more space to the other person, I'm trying to be nice.
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 9 pts · 357d
Yep, in my experience leaving a bunch of space on the belt can sometimes cause confusion if the cashier gets distracted!
So itās just kind of polite to use it so everyone isnāt relying on implicit cues.
higgsboson@piefed.social · 10 pts · 357d
that's just in your head. embrace the divider.
RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 357d
Yeah like the other commenter, I do this so you can use the whole belt and don't have to awkwardly shove things onto the end.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 79 pts · 357d
Stupid cashiers.. I always put those separators on the belt, but they always stop me from buying one.
Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 357d
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 357d
They're complimentary. Pocket it and walk out.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 355d
I think they're shutting down Pocket
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 357d
you need to weigh them with the secret produce code 1337 to put a price on them and make them purchasable
alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 43 pts · 357d
Is that a white thing? I do love it, but I don't know if it has anything to do with my race. It makes it easier for the cashier to tell when one person's groceries end without having to pay attention to who is putting what on the belt.
Nougat@fedia.io · 23 pts · 357d
I put one down behind my items just yesterday, and the Black woman behind me thanked me for doing so. So thereās a data point.
alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 357d
3 data points so far, we've practically completed a study!
glimse@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
I haven't lived in a predominantly-white area in over 20 years and I have never been in a situation where someone should have used a divider and didn't...so I have hundreds of data points to back yours up
Lucky_777@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 357d
No, it's not. Just people making stupid shit for online acceptance.
mstrk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 357d
In my country the cashiers will place the divider beforehand if you forget to do it and while the current customer is paying... So yes, the divider is for the cashier not for the customers.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 357d
Someone will try to make everything about race.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 355d
Reddit's WhitePeopleTwitter and BlackPeopleTwitter were pretty interesting in what sort of stuff was considered white and what black
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 357d
"You ever notice how _____ people do [insert common, innocuous, rational behavior]..."
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 357d
Yeah, this is trolling.
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 357d
I don't get it. I don't want to stand in line longer waiting while the cashier unscans my items from the person ahead's order or unscans the next persons items from my order. They also often fuck it up anyway but still
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 356d
What? As an Asian American I and my family love that damn stick.
Don't be lumping my flavorful ingredients with some white guys bland crap at the Chinese grocery store.
But seriously everyone should use that thing because it makes the cashier's job easier, faster, and smoother for everyone.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 356d
Do people not use it?
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 355d
I've noticed that Middle Eastern refugees don't use them as often. Maybe it wasn't a thing in where they're coming from? Dunno.
Rooskie91@discuss.online · 20 pts · 357d
Race baiting has really fallen off as a profession, I see.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 357d
I don't want some filthy poor persons grocceries touching my filthy poor person grocceries
Alaik@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 357d
Did their chocolate get into your peanut butter?
chocrates@piefed.world · 15 pts · 357d
Only white people use them? I moved from the PNW down south and I can say they get used much less down here. Haven't paid attention to race though
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 356d
The stick is a universal if you have a cart of groceries, we all need the stick in those times to guide us. The thing that gets me is when I put a hand basket on the belt and the person in front of me gives me the stink eye and slaps the stick between their loose groceries and my contained and obviously separate basket of groceries like I was trying to trick them to pay for my stuff. Itās not just white or old people, though, being a douche is a human quality, not a racial or generational thing.
threeduck@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 355d
I thought basket of groceries on the belt was a social faux pas?
Because then the check out people can't plan their bagging of heavy / light?
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 355d
Itās a hand basket, there are at most two bags worth of stuff in it. If youāve got a bunch of heavy shit that needs separated then youāre doing it wrong.
Zexks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 355d
You dont know how to hand basket very well.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 355d
You donāt know what hand baskets are for, get a cart.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 355d
I always empty my basket onto the conveyor. Seems rude of me to assume the cashier should reach over and into a basket just to ring up my goods. Do you also make them unload your buggy when you use those?
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 355d
What was the response you were hoping to get from this?
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 355d
Just trying to teach children how to be adults. You can lead a horse to water and all.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 355d
Donāt break an arm jerking yourself off.
HK65@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 357d
I just realized I haven't used a conveyor belt checkout since before the pandemic. It's either grocery delivery or self-checkout.
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 355d
Mr Richie Rich here, getting food delivered.
HK65@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 353d
Delivery price is cheaper than the fuel, prices are same as the store.
It's actually cheaper here, and it is also cheaper and easier for both the store and me.
Nikls94@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 356d
This is no stick. This is a KUNDENDIFFERENZIERUNGSMODUL
NightmareQueenJune@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 356d
No it's obviously a WARENTRENNER
xia@lemmy.sdf.org · 9 pts · 356d
That stick is a fine line between order and chaos.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 357d
My brother used to say that if you had enough of those dividers you could solve every property dispute because nobody violates that line.
TheSlad@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 357d
Ive had cashiers blatantly ignore it and scan items for the wrong person many times now....
...I still use the stick, but also make sure theres plenty of space.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d
In Arkansas you're now allowed to shoot at the feet of cashiers who sass you, so they keep tabs on it
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 7 pts · 356d
Black people twitter is such a cesspit.
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 7 pts · 357d
Throw it in a crowd of white people and watch us fight over it like a pack of yorkshire terriers fighting over a milk bone.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 356d
I wouldn't have any problem with not having this stick, but cashiers can't seem to tell that a six-inch distance between my order and the next order is a good place to stop. Then we're all sitting around for an extra couple of minutes while they try to get someone to come and authorize voiding the items.
Windex007@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
Always struck me as a city thing, not a white people thing.
Maybe things have changed, but in the small town where I grew up, people generally wouldn't bother.
there would usually be a gap delineating one persons items from the other's anyways
the person who was professionally scanning our groceries 100% had the expertise to see the gap and comprehend its meaning
If (I never ever saw it happen, ever) they had grabbed something, someone would have noticed, said "whoops, that's not mine". Nobody would think someone was trying a scam.
I feel like this is an amazing measure of someone's general level of anxiety. Or maybe a measure of how little credit they give the person scanning groceries? Both?
marcos@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
It's a measure of how often some asshole that doesn't leave a gap between their groceries and the previous appear on the store.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d
Seems to me that it's about how present the cashier is. I've made sure to leave a huge gap and they still paid so little attention they were confused about whose stuff was whose.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 356d
Not totally relevant, but: that little tub of Philadelphia cream cheese is like $8 nowadays. What in the ever-loving fuck? And yet you can still buy a brick of that shit for $1.60. Trying to get cream cheese out of that folded-over piece of foil is certainly annoying, but it's worth paying 5X as much to get it out of a convenient tub instead? Make it make sense.
raef@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 356d
Foil is so easy with a butter knife. You can just scrape it clean. Much easier than digging it out with a spatula
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 356d
So desegregate it and pay for the groceries of the ones loading behind you
StarMerchant938@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 356d
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
And bathrooms
The only reason we have sex based bathrooms is because the women's bathrooms used to say colored on them and we never got the building codes changed.
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 357d
Thats not true. The history of segerated bathrooms are worse than that... during the Victorian era, public bathrooms were men only. Women were not expected to travel from their home, or carry piss pots with them. Women had to fight for their right to have access to facilities. Also employers used the excuse of lack of women facilities to not hire women. The reason segerated bathrooms exist in building codes are because of decades of women fighting for their rights...
Dont pin it on racism on good old fashion sexism.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 356d
Ah yes, that's why in the rest of the world that didn't do racially segregated bathrooms there are only unisex bathrooms.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 356d
Most of the world has unisex bathrooms
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 355d
Pretty much any large enough venue will have urinals, anywhere in the world.
I'm not sure what gave you that idea.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 355d
Have you spent much time in europe or south America?
It isn't nearly as common outside the US, even in more developed countries
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 357d
MotoAsh@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 357d
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 357d
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 357d
The only sexual harassment that I hear about in restrooms are either trans people being harassed or cisgender people being accused of being trans. Both of these problems go away when you have desegregated restrooms.
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 357d
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 356d
Sure, but they're more likely to harass you if the law is on their side. If we only made laws that everybody would follow, then there would be no laws.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 357d
You aren't a victim when someone you don't like uses the bathroom
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 356d
Mist101@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d
Yeah man, because it's definitely the trans kid doing the pee-pee dance and not the officer snapping coochie picks for "safety" we should be worrying about.
FuckFascism@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 357d
onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 357d
I think they were talking about coed bathrooms, not about letting trans people pick the bathroom that matches their gender.
I personally agree that coed bathrooms would likely result in more sexual harassment/assaults.
Mist101@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 357d
That's the same argument from a different false equivalency. Co-ed bathrooms exist all around the world. The fact that uncle Jim can't stop fantasizing about watching someone pee shouldn't stop other men from using the public restroom.
AlexLost@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 357d
It's called the Internet Jim. Look it up.
remon@ani.social · 6 pts · 357d
Another problem solved by self-checkout.
bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 357d
Problem?
salty_chief@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 357d
Multiple personality people would argue that fact. Lol
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 357d
Shouldn't have cropped the top person's username so we could see who supports being slightly disruptive, lol.
lemmyknow@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 357d
The real issue is you're using it sideways
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d
Object@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 356d
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 357d
Whole comment section up in arms. Relax it's just a jokeš
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 357d
The joke is bad and it should feel bad
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 357d
Which one? Or both?