Donald Trump is facing legal action over the demolition of the White House’s East Wing, part of a $300 million plan to build a new ballroom on the executive grounds.
A Virginia couple, Charles and Judith Voorhees, filed an emergency motion in federal court on October 23 seeking to halt the project, alleging that it violates multiple federal preservation and planning laws.
112 Comments
Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world · 225 pts · 304d
Good. The demolition is disgusting, and apparently illegal. If legal efforts don't lan out, the couple can send their son, Jason, to scare the courts
northendtrooper@lemmy.ca · 91 pts · 304d
Wouldn't it be amazing that he would lose and have to put it back out of his own pocket? I mean won't happen in this reality as we're all in hell but still would be nice to think about.
grte@lemmy.ca · 63 pts · 304d
If you're sending Jason anyways you might as well have him fix the Supreme Court.
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 304d
I feel like this is a pop culture reference I’m missing. Jason?
grte@lemmy.ca · 50 pts · 304d
This guy. The couple filing the suit share the last name Voorhees.
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 304d
Ah thank you. Didn’t find “Jason” in the article and I thought “Jason” was a meme I was not aware of like “Karen”.
harmsy@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 304d
Well, there is a Jason meme, too, but that's something completely different.
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 304d
Damn that’s grim lol
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 304d
Cue SCOTUS saying, "It's the President's house! Of course he can renovate it!"
Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 304d
He has demolitional immunity!!!
lando55@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 304d
/cracks neck
It's just been revoked
pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 304d
Bravo
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 304d
You're thinking the New Jersey Voorhees. They lived on Shades of Death Rd.
UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 214 pts · 304d
I still can't get over how cartoonishly evil trump is. Dude is literally destroying the white house and tweeting AI videos of himself shitting on the US flag, the Constitution, and the American people. He is literally destroying our culture and heritage and he hasn't even finished with his first year in his new admin. He isn't the antichrist. He's the devil made flesh.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 97 pts · 304d
I love how cartoonishly evil, dumb and uncharismatic he is, and americans were like: "let's see what he has to offer a second time."
History lesson in the future has to be absolute wild. People will imagine some well spoken George Clooney like person and then they see a video of Krang talking about grabbing pussy.
whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 304d
Hopefully there will be some commentary on media consolidation and how successfully propagandized the american public is.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 3 pts · 303d
... and the percentage of adults that read at 12th grade level
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 303d
Honestly though I do only feel I learned how dumb and ridiculous and drug-fuelled and self-destroying the Nazis were after I left school. History class took them much more seriously than people did at the time.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 303d
Yep. I absolutely hate how Hitler is portrayed. He's always made to look scary. Trump isn't scary by any stretch of the imagination. That's why so many people missed the similarities. Trump/Hitler are just unstable. History should teach Hitler as unstable, not fearsome. Apparently there's a trend with young men to develop some kind of admiration for Hitler precisely because of how "tough" he's made to look in history class. Absolutely appalling.
tibi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 301d
Last time absolute morons had absolute power got us 2 world wars that cost millions of lives. But sure, let's do it again, it will be different™ this time.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 303d
And about half of the US basically see him as their god.
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 303d
That's one of the devil's tricks.
pigup@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 303d
Schrödinger's devil
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 303d
I think I see what you're trying to say but I believe he's a devil whether you're looking at him or not so I'm not sure if that actually applies. 😂
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 303d
Not as a god, but an instrument of God. Steve Bannon called Trump a vehicle of divine provenance which sidesteps him not being churchy / religious.
Anything can be labeled an instrument of God because "God works in mysterious ways".
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 303d
Another idea he took straight from Hitler.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 303d
Isn't he the child of disgusting German immigrants?
UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 302d
We call them expats to save the whites their feel-feels.
Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 302d
Call them what they are. Fucking fat old white gringo immigrant gentrificators.
Gentrifiers?
Fuck this joke of a language that doesn't even have gendered nouns.
Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io · 105 pts · 304d
We should make this a class action suit. Every patriotic / matriotic US citizen should sign on. We all have cause, we all have been harmed. If any of us tried to destroy a historic building, or modify it in any way with out a plan, with out approval from a host of government entities we would have been stopped on the very first day. FTS!
"The defendants are listed as Trump, in his official capacity, and Jessica Brown, director of the National Park Service." Excellent, J. Brown is not protected by SCOTUS. Go after the little fish. Charge the company doing the work, the guy running the backhoe, and everyone involved in this active destruction of The People's House.
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 62 pts · 304d
I'd be up to join the class action suit. As a Canadian it's our right to be the ones to demolish the Whitehouse.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 304d
THIS IS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION.
sudo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 304d
Are we sure the people doing the work aren't slave labor that just weren't yet human trafficked?
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
I think they only retroactively count as slave labour after the bill makes it to trumps hands, and promptly into his toilet...
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 304d
Well, the East Wing is demolished now. Just goes to show you how effective all this hand wringing is. You have to stop him, forcibly.
Once the building is a pile of rubble, he can just point at the pile of rubble and say well now we got to rebuild it I guess, oh and by the way I'm the one who gets to pick how it's rebuilt. Ironic this is not a bad metaphor for the state of the country.
fonix232@fedia.io · 29 pts · 304d
No. If courts decide that the demolition was illegal, he has to put it back exactly the way it was. It's not a free pass to "rebuild it the way he wants".
Nusm@peachpie.theatl.social · 32 pts · 304d
Tell ya what Chester, I’ll take great big ol’ deep breath and hold it until that happens.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org · 9 pts · 304d
You may wanna contact Guinness world records. It's gonna be a while.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 304d
And what happens when he ignores that order too?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 304d
Lol I would bet my next paycheck that this will never happen.
cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 302d
Sweet sweet summer child
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 304d
What if he's not, though? What if the courts ordered that the building must be rebuilt the way it was? I don't think that'll happen, but I wouldn't mind if it did.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
Where's Arthur Dent when you need him?
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 303d
Nah, peaceful protest will totally solve this.
/s
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 304d
He should be arrested for vandalism.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if this is the thing that gets him removed from office? Wishful thinking, I know
altphoto@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 303d
A guy spray paints his favorite words under a bridge so he gets 10 years. Orange guy demolishes the most iconic building in the nation.... down to the ground... Jail? Nope, presidential!
Strider@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 303d
Don't forget about rape and the other crimes.
But you be hardworking, you'll make it for sure!
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 303d
This dude has committed so many crimes I've lost count. I'm stuck looking stupid when people ask me why I call him a criminal. I just stand there like an idiot like "The stuff... with the things... all of it."
Strider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 303d
Yeah it's always infuriating if one needs to do that. It's like people willingly ignore it.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 303d
... and about ten thousand other things. No-one seems to give enough of a shit.
Furbag@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 303d
A nice gesture from some patriotic people, I'm sure, but we all know that laws meant to hold powerful people accountable for their actions are now meaningless.
I expect that if this suit does not get outright dismissed, a Trump-appointed circuit judge or the SCOTUS will swoop in to save Trump yet again.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 302d
You're right, but I think this falls into the "don't obey in advance" rule of resistance to autocracy.
I've long since lost the will to support this type of action, like yourself I suppose. Everything is fucked all the way down. You can't not-lose in a corrupt court system.
However, I think it's important that every authoritarian action is challenged, because if you don't challenge then you really are kind of obeying in advance.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 36 pts · 303d
There should be a class-action lawsuit against him personally on behalf of the entire population of the United States. Force him to pay out of his pocket to return the site to its previous glory, then pay punitive damages to every single citizen of the United States...all out of his own pocket.
And make him sign each individual check, like in The Jerk. He loves to sign his name, this would make him HATE it.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 302d
I think the majority of the country should have a class action suit against him for all the stress he's caused over 10 years. His shitty 20-25% of hardcore fans can maybe have their taxes bumped up to cover it.
Given that the new model is just to pull numbers right out of our ass, apparently, from watching the pedo-in-chief, I think each of us is due about 250 million dollars.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 302d
$250 million? Sounds low, but I'll accept, just to put this whole mess behind us.
Azki25@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 303d
The founding fathers would be turning in their graves. This time line is fked man. He's going to rig the next election if he doesn't get rid of elections all together. One thing he doesn't realise is dictatorships like RUS and China have unarmed controlled citizens.
The USA has the most heavily armed population on the planet.
He's fucking with fire and he is absolutely going to be burnt.
Bro just bulldozed history for a ball room.... Insanity.
Rooty@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 303d
I am still waiting for Americans to use their guns to rise up against tyranny instead of using them to shoot minorities
cmhe@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 303d
In an all out war, (which I doubt will happen) all these guns in the population don't matter against drones, aircrafts, tanks and trained snipers or other soldiers. If the military and all other agencies decides to support Trump, all these weapons will be useless. The pentagon surely has plans for a civil uprising in their own country.
I don't think the US has enough ordinary citizen that would actually risk their lives for democracy, to make a difference. Media and social media is controlled by the oligarchy, and even the progressives don't seem to want to cut themselves loose of twitter, Facebook/Whatsapp, google, bluesky, discord and so on. Where would they even organize?
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 303d
Implying the national guard and now heavily armed PDs of all the states support the federal coup, and don't instead go full guerilla
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 302d
Well the citizens of Afganistán and Vietnam proved this wrong. Never underestimate guerrilla warfare
cmhe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 302d
Sure, but we are talking about the US here.
Or are you all busy building tunnels and bunkers over there? Organise in your neighborhood and build local groups?
Pretty sure that if the media starts calling these guerrillas terrorists, anti-american, instigators of violence, Communists, Antifa, and so on, they will loose public support and without broad local support in the population, guerilla fighting will not work.
Afganistán and Vietnam fought guerilla against a foreign invasion. US would have to fight 'guerilla' against their neighbors and other Americans, against people like them... I don't think this is comparable.
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 303d
And yet you’d think with the whole right to bear arms and use it against kings would have kicked in already tho.
They still just use the guns on children and minorities.
This has been the most anticlimactic flex I’ve ever seen.
We will not be forgetting this one should another gun toting citizen from the US boast their reasons of the constitution.
Prepare to have this thrown in all the faces for generations to come.
PhilMcGraw@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 303d
How much of that heavily armed population are Trump supporters though?
800XL@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 303d
Not as many as there'd need to be.
PhilMcGraw@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 303d
Hopefully we won't find out. Feel like there's heavily tilted scale towards Trump/republicans when it comes to gun ownership as the other side tends to be more for restricting gun ownership.
Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 303d
Those are the optics, but is it true?
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 303d
THRONE room!
Auli@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 302d
The most American thing to say. When they are really cowards holding onto their guns cause they're scared.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 303d
He didn’t even get permits to do the demo.
That didn’t stop him.
What the hell is a lawsuit going to do?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 303d
He don't need no stinking permits, he's a REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER!
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 3 pts · 302d
The WH answer to this is that there's precedent for them not needing permits for demo, but building the new construction requires permits. Although they could say anything, how many people really know?
TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 304d
I feel like Trump is setting a record for the most sued president while in office. And probably outside of office too.
MarieMarion@literature.cafe · 5 pts · 304d
Read that as "the most suave president", and you didn't make a whole lot of sense.
bajabound@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 304d
HAVE YOU NOT HEARD THE MAN SPEAK?!?!? The biggest best beautiful speaker ever.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 302d
Trump: Does horrible thing
Two weeks after it matters: People: Sue over horrible thing
One year later: Court: Trump shouldn't have done that horrible thing.
Result: Horrible thing is done. No consequences for having done said horrible thing. Lawyers get paid. Courts give themselves pat on back. Democracy manifest!
asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 303d
Has anyone else heard that tRump is planning to bury the Epstein Files in the foundation of the Epstein Ballroom?
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 21 pts · 304d
"Maybe in your dreams!" responded Trumps lawyer Frederick Kruger.
oyo@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 304d
I hope this demolition company is doing this work for fun. No chance of getting paid with the shutdown and all...
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 302d
It's Trump. He already has a history of not paying.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 303d
Destroying National Landmarks for Fun
and Profitantifa_ceo@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 304d
I am vastly more concerned over the actual people being affected by this admin than destroying some stupid building. Who cares this much about the white house? Are we serious? Are we really talking about banding together to save the white house rather than the people being kidnapped and assaulted on the streets every day?
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 304d
Well, my mother is a Trumper and even she said the WH demo is "ridiculous and disgusting", so, maybe it's a crack to pry open with louder complaints to help open more eyes like hers.
heydo@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 304d
People can be upset about multiple things. Just because I am upset about the White House being destroyed doesn't mean I am not also upset about the lives of Americans being destroyed.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 18 pts · 304d
"We" are not but some people might react stronger to this. I don't like it either, but every little bit helps.
Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 304d
I get this take and am in the same boat. The thing though is that the people who disapprove with trump is about the same as the number that "strongly disapprove" of trump. We have no more loathing to give.
Righting the ship will require breaking through to the disconnected and mildly red.
And the WH destruction is a) not a traditionally partisan issue, b) strongly symbolic, and c) a powerful visual.
So is it the worst thing he's doing? Not by a mile. Will I be happy if it wakes people up? Vehemently.
Hey, they got Capone on tax fraud
AreaKode@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 304d
Well, it is Trump's #1 objective right now. Not reopening the government or funding SNAP. Those are poor people problems.
BigBenis@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 304d
On one hand, yes, many Americans' morals are backwards and ideally humans being killed, brutalized and disappeared by this administration and it's agents would get more attention than an old building.
But on the other hand, that's unfortunately not where we're at. But where we are at is many people who would otherwise support or at least feel apathetic to what this administration is doing are appalled by the destruction of a national icon and I'll welcome any step towards eroding the support this administration has from a significant group of Americans.
Wytch@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 304d
Yes, we are. There are plenty of lawyers and resources to fight this admin on all fronts. Any attempt to put him in check is not a loss on another.
You can be more personally concerned about the people being thrown in gulags and blown up on fishing boats - rightfully so - but it doesn't stand to reason that this fight is not worthy of pursuit. Lawyers who specialize in zoning laws, permit violations, and historical building renovation processes surely shouldn't have their efforts dismissed.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 304d
Non magats can do more than one thing at a time, you know.....
FE80@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 303d
Quick, get Merrick Garland on the case.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 303d
See you in two years.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 304d
The demolition and the general idea doesn't bother me as much as the fact that we all know it's gonna be filled with gold-colored tacky shit and other fugly crap.
IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 304d
Not to mention the fact there is really no reason for a ball room at the White House. They hold these events in more fitting venues.
This isn't a ball room though. This is a throne room for the great Hamberder King.
eve@evecodes.com · 11 pts · 302d
Too bad nothing will happen just like all the other lawsuits and “illegal” activities he’s done
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 303d
Hey if they're looking to redecorate, I'm sure we can find some staunch Canadians to help.
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 303d
To be fair, it wasn't the Canadians. It was the British. Canada wasn't a Canada in 1814.
But yes, we'd be happy to come help disinfect that building with fire. I think when your civil war kicks off, torching that building early on and then rebuilding it after the sane people take over would make great imagery.
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 303d
hey he’s taking away the Canadian tradition of destroying the White House
Shit is all backwards
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 303d
Cultural appropriation, that's what it is.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 303d
If those staunch Canadians need anywhere to stay, they can hit me up. I'm 4hrs from DC but down to give them a ride or whatever
falseWhite@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 304d
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 304d
It's not his duty to be an orange skinned, raisin brain moron.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
Hey! Raisins have too many wrinkles, and too much surface area, to be found in any orange skull.
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 303d
He's immune to prosecution and personal consequences from anything he does. They have not (yet) ceded the ability to tell him that government cannot legally do a thing and what it must do to correct it.
TehWorld@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 302d
I’m the grand scheme of things, I REALLY don’t give a FUCK about him tearing down part Of the WH. There are a thousand things more pressing.
Release the Epstein Files.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 302d
I mean they are never going to be released. And people keep on asking for them is just stupid. Like what in this political climate is going to make them release them?
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 7 pts · 304d
I imagine the people who were tasked with carrying this out, gently trying to hint (for fear of losing their jobs) that this is a very bad idea.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 304d
Fuck those people the hardest. They would rather save their own skin than ise their position to take a stand and do the right thing.
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 303d
They're already writing their books about how they (quietly) thought it was all abhorrent. Please send them millions of dollars.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 303d
Ask John Bolton how that worked out.
WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 304d
That’ll teach him!
Oyml77@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 304d
Just one moe lawsuit, bro!
SGGeorwell@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 304d
He already fuckin demolished it! Better late than never, I guess.
frankiehollywood@lemmy.zip · -9 pts · 304d
That wing supported the south in the civil war…