Rear view cameras have been required by law for a few years now. I'm pretty sure it was a ploy by manufacturers to get a screen on every dashboard so they could sell ads.
The manufacturers were opposed to them being required. I think they claimed it would cost an extra $200-250 per car. But they sure won’t pass up on the ads if they think they can get away with it!
Negative. They were very against the law. A guy backed over and killed his own child and made it a multi year mission to force back up cameras as a requirement. Politicians look bad if they don't want to "save the children."
They are wrong. The manufacturers could have put and marketed a large screen display in their cars without needing to hide behind backup cameras as an excuse.
Plus, the auto companies lobbied against being forced to install backup cameras by default.
Exactly, they need to include the backup camera instead of upselling you on it by including it in the upper trim or a tech/safety package.
thinking that the manufacturers would lobby for the mandatory backup camera just so they can install displays on all car (another thing they cant upsell) just to show some ads is some asinine thinking.
My guess is that you're not in the US like I am, but I hear so many ridiculous stories and laws over there which are privacy-invasive, because it is not a secret that corporations and governments want data to surveil and manipulate its citizens, and then train AI.
People in their big SUVs were running over their kids in the driveway so a Mazda miata has a camera now. Similar to people in their Ford exploders that were rolling over because they didn't check their tire pressures and the negligence of Firestone causing tires to seperate, so they now have tpms sensors.
Yo fuck those sensors tho. My old ass car has em and they started all dying from age, fuckers want 90 bucks each plus whatever bullshit amount for labor to replace them, so now I gotta click past a stupid warning whenever I start my car to see the digital speedometer 🙄
IDK, I looked around online and the ones I need cost about what they were saying wherever I looked. Even if it was $50 each tho it's too much, imo, just to get rid of a minor annoyance.
I've never seen an ad on my car's screen. My brother's car from 2013 has a backup camera, and that car literally cannot communicate to any server that could serve ads.
If car companies wanted to put ads on screens, they wouldn't need an excuse to put in a screen, they'd just do it. But they wouldn't do that, because ads are a safety hazard and they'd have their pants sued off. I can't even connect a new Bluetooth device to my car (pressing 1 button) unless the parking brake is applied. Stellantis is in hot water for their braindead attempt at "ads" in their cars, and that's just a pop-up that shows up when the car is stopped.
Not even Google maps advertises to me when I use Android Auto, and ads are Google's thing
us transportation made it a law in 2014 but effective 2018 that all vehicles made after 2018 under 10000 pounds are required to have a backup screen. so any new car made in the reletive past decade will probably have one. laws for cars are not retroactive usually.
off the top of my head, no. but I know for the seatbelt law at least, if a car before the mandatory seatbelt law had optional seatbelts, having the seatbelt became mandatory if it had one (that is, you cannot remove them). Cars that had no seatbelts nor had optional ones are exempt.
Maybe there’s a specific size/resolution of image you could use to make it work, if you knew the exact distance? But I’d also think this wouldn’t work..
Taping to the camera as shown on the left would be challenging to make work at least. The cameras don’t put out light so whatever image you use would have to be on paper thin and light enough for backlighting to work. The distortion that close would also be extreme, so you’d want to keep the main part of your image in the center and small. And yeah, it’d probably be blurry, but the resolution on most of those cameras was already pretty bad up until a few years ago so you might not notice.
It would be fun to figure out how to place a lens on it .... to either bring the image closer or make it further to completely screw with the perspective
Or even a fun house mirror effect and distort the image in the center.
It would cause them to have a few accidents before realizing something was wrong with the camera
"oh look, that car has a novelty sticker for my backup camera on it, that's fun." Continues on the day
Like how exactly are y'all expecting people to react to this? Y'all know you live in the real world with actual people, not Looney Tunes with a bunch of exaggerated cartoon characters, right?
52 Comments
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 263d
Rear view cameras have been required by law for a few years now. I'm pretty sure it was a ploy by manufacturers to get a screen on every dashboard so they could sell ads.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 74 pts · 263d
I also hate ads, but I think it was more likely to minimize how many children old people were squashing :
https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/bibliography/ref/2130
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 1 pts · 263d
jqubed@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 263d
The manufacturers were opposed to them being required. I think they claimed it would cost an extra $200-250 per car. But they sure won’t pass up on the ads if they think they can get away with it!
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de · 38 pts · 263d
Negative. They were very against the law. A guy backed over and killed his own child and made it a multi year mission to force back up cameras as a requirement. Politicians look bad if they don't want to "save the children."
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 263d
How many school shootings so far this year?
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 262d
Clearly that's an unsolvable problem 😉
kameecoding@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 263d
Peak lemming take
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 263d
They're not wrong? It's an open secret in the business world that information is the new gold.
If something is free, you're the product.
village604@adultswim.fan · 19 pts · 263d
They are wrong. The manufacturers could have put and marketed a large screen display in their cars without needing to hide behind backup cameras as an excuse.
Plus, the auto companies lobbied against being forced to install backup cameras by default.
kameecoding@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 263d
Exactly, they need to include the backup camera instead of upselling you on it by including it in the upper trim or a tech/safety package.
thinking that the manufacturers would lobby for the mandatory backup camera just so they can install displays on all car (another thing they cant upsell) just to show some ads is some asinine thinking.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 263d
I am gladly the product of linux. Keep selling me free linux!!
Honytawk@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 263d
But a rear view camera isn't free, you usually buy it as an option.
Also, I have never seen an ad on any dashboard screen. Maybe if you installed some android app, but never from the manufacturer themselves.
kif@lemmy.nz · 6 pts · 263d
I mean, it's not an option if it's required by law. As to your second point, I have seen news articles talking about "sponsored recommendations", but nothing as blatant as tv/radio ads. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/360895851/ev-drivers-be-bombarded-incar-adverts
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 263d
My guess is that you're not in the US like I am, but I hear so many ridiculous stories and laws over there which are privacy-invasive, because it is not a secret that corporations and governments want data to surveil and manipulate its citizens, and then train AI.
stickly@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 263d
They're the manufacturers. They could just... Put a screen in anyway?
Consumers definitely want the cameras regardless of legislation. It's one of the very few decent features added to cars recently.
village604@adultswim.fan · 11 pts · 263d
Right? I'm driving my mom's old Element to try to sell it, and it feels so unsafe to back up without the camera.
Looking around does nothing when you're sandwiched between two massive trucks.
FishFace@piefed.social · 11 pts · 263d
This is a conspiracy theory as nuts as fake moon landings
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 263d
People in their big SUVs were running over their kids in the driveway so a Mazda miata has a camera now. Similar to people in their Ford exploders that were rolling over because they didn't check their tire pressures and the negligence of Firestone causing tires to seperate, so they now have tpms sensors.
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 263d
Yo fuck those sensors tho. My old ass car has em and they started all dying from age, fuckers want 90 bucks each plus whatever bullshit amount for labor to replace them, so now I gotta click past a stupid warning whenever I start my car to see the digital speedometer 🙄
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 262d
Dealer pricing?
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 258d
IDK, I looked around online and the ones I need cost about what they were saying wherever I looked. Even if it was $50 each tho it's too much, imo, just to get rid of a minor annoyance.
CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 263d
I've never seen an ad on my car's screen. My brother's car from 2013 has a backup camera, and that car literally cannot communicate to any server that could serve ads.
If car companies wanted to put ads on screens, they wouldn't need an excuse to put in a screen, they'd just do it. But they wouldn't do that, because ads are a safety hazard and they'd have their pants sued off. I can't even connect a new Bluetooth device to my car (pressing 1 button) unless the parking brake is applied. Stellantis is in hot water for their braindead attempt at "ads" in their cars, and that's just a pop-up that shows up when the car is stopped.
Not even Google maps advertises to me when I use Android Auto, and ads are Google's thing
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d
Law where??? I still see junker cars from the 60s driving around here where I live.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 263d
For new car sales.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 263d
us transportation made it a law in 2014 but effective 2018 that all vehicles made after 2018 under 10000 pounds are required to have a backup screen. so any new car made in the reletive past decade will probably have one. laws for cars are not retroactive usually.
dryfter@ani.social · 6 pts · 263d
Just curious if you’re aware of any laws for cars that ARE/HAVE BEEN retroactive?
Just generically I can’t really think of anything that “could be”, but I’m no mechanic or lawyer. 🤣
Horsecook@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 263d
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 263d
Maybe around car alarms?
The after market ones are awful, but car theft in the early 2000s was also way higher (like 2x) than anything we’ve seen since.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 263d
off the top of my head, no. but I know for the seatbelt law at least, if a car before the mandatory seatbelt law had optional seatbelts, having the seatbelt became mandatory if it had one (that is, you cannot remove them). Cars that had no seatbelts nor had optional ones are exempt.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 263d
Portland? Haha
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 261d
It is the only new feature in cars since excluding crash safety that has made them safer
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 38 pts · 263d
Mine likes to proudly announce “Connected to Bluetooth device!” while I’m in the middle of a manouevre.
rustydrd@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 263d
I'm reading this in Ralph Wiggum's voice, like the car version of "my cats breath smells like cat food!".
Beacon@fedia.io · 35 pts · 263d
Would this work as depicted? Wouldn't it just be a blur?
ButteryMonkey@piefed.social · 27 pts · 263d
Maybe there’s a specific size/resolution of image you could use to make it work, if you knew the exact distance? But I’d also think this wouldn’t work..
jqubed@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 263d
Taping to the camera as shown on the left would be challenging to make work at least. The cameras don’t put out light so whatever image you use would have to be on paper thin and light enough for backlighting to work. The distortion that close would also be extreme, so you’d want to keep the main part of your image in the center and small. And yeah, it’d probably be blurry, but the resolution on most of those cameras was already pretty bad up until a few years ago so you might not notice.
then_three_more@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 263d
It's not just (or so much) the resolution, it's what the minimum focus distance of the lens is. I'd bet that is going to be more than a couple of cm
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 263d
Create a image adapted to the distortion? I'm sure there's software around for this.
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 263d
Are rear view cameras really "fancy" these days?
yannic@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 263d
It means your car is likely less than 10 years old, so... yes.
spicytuna62@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 263d
Mmmmm idk, I'll take my old beater Civic over any new Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, or Stellantis product.
Hell, just the fact that you can't buy a low trim Civic or Corolla with a stick shift anymore is kinda tragic.
The 90s are where cars peaked, and I will die on that hill.
lemming741@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 263d
murilee martin says the same thing
ilillilillilillililli@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 263d
Not at all. They have been required since 2018 and fairly cheap to add to older vehicles.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 263d
2018!! Well shit. Did they even make cars that backed up prior to then?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d
Need one that just says “Error.” Send them scurrying to the repair shop or something.
ohellidk@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 263d
Idk... This could backfire and scare them into punching the accelerator in reverse, causing more damage out of fear!
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · -10 pts · 263d
It would be fun to figure out how to place a lens on it .... to either bring the image closer or make it further to completely screw with the perspective
Or even a fun house mirror effect and distort the image in the center.
It would cause them to have a few accidents before realizing something was wrong with the camera
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 263d
Why tf would you make them more of a danger
BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 263d
Didn't stop to think this could harm pedestrians, did ya?
Vespair@lemmy.zip · -16 pts · 263d
"oh look, that car has a novelty sticker for my backup camera on it, that's fun." Continues on the day
Like how exactly are y'all expecting people to react to this? Y'all know you live in the real world with actual people, not Looney Tunes with a bunch of exaggerated cartoon characters, right?
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 29 pts · 263d
Briguy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 263d
Well certainly no one here asked for your reaction
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d