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makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world · 116 pts · 246d (16 replies)

Oh god, not this repost. This meatloaf sucks. It's overcooked, uses nondescript ingredients (BBQ Sauce? That's like 30 different things, ranch OR onion soup mix?), suggests that ground turkey and beef should be seasoned similarly, and is woefully under seasoned

Look, fuck the homophobes but you can do better than this sad midwest pile of gray meat

paultimate14@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 246d (9 replies)

Can you even call it meat loaf without bread crumbs or some other filler?

As someone who grew up poor, I thought the whole point of meatloaf was to add cheap filler to ground meat to make it "go" further.

cogman@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 246d

Exactly the point.

Bread crumbs, carrots, onions, even celery. All filler elements to make the meatloaf taste better and go further.

It's a WW2 meal designed to make rationed meat go further.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 246d (3 replies)

How is that recipe not just a giant baked burger?

Soulg@ani.social · 1 pts · 245d (1 reply)

That's more or less what meat loaf is, eat it with some greens and it's a decent cheap meal that's pretty easy and quick to make; throw shit into a big bowl and hand mix (or it was before Trump ruined the price of beef)

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d

Meatloaf requires bread crumbs or Oats to make it a "loaf".

Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d

It makes my colon cringe

SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 245d

We used corn flakes, 3 eggs (had chickens, have them now too), Worcestershire, onions, and maybe celery, mixing it by hand was good fun to me for some reason. As an adult when I started growing mushrooms, I added a bunch from a flush that produced way too many to use and was starting to go bad, and omg I love it that way now! (Not necessarily mushrooms on the edge of going bad, but is a good way to use a lot up and freeze for later meals!)

nednobbins@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 245d

It's also there so the proteins from the meat don't all bind together and turn your meatloaf into a meatbrick.

EchoCranium@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 245d

My mom (and consequently, so do I now) would use quick oats instead of bread crumbs. Add in an egg, onion, green pepper, maybe celery. Now it's sounding really good, haven't made this in a while, thinking I'll have to do that this weekend.

lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 245d

When you have 6lbs of meat you don't need filler.

SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 246d (2 replies)

Come-on, at least a half of an onion. They're cheap. How about some tomatoes?

Oops, now it's MY recipe.

makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 246d (1 reply)

I'm not at all opposed to meatloaf but you're absolutely right. It needs some vegetables for flavor and moisture, you should generally use individual seasonings instead of premixed packets so you have some control but if nothing else it needs breadcrumbs for stability. You have to do so much to this to make it good that it just becomes a different recipe

SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 246d

Sorta like a recipe for nail soup.

grue@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 246d (2 replies)

Also, the relatively tiny amount of sauce mixed into the meat (4tbsp for 4-6 lbs?!) with none on top makes no sense.

makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 246d (1 reply)

You should be concerned when a recipe says you can add 50% to it and not adjust the seasoning at all

grue@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d

Eh, casual and hand-wavey I can deal with, but not being in the right order of magnitude is where it loses credibility.

Blackmist@feddit.uk · 32 pts · 246d

TFW the secret recipe is just the ingredients you'd expect plus a squirt of every random sauce in the fridge.

pachrist@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 245d (9 replies)

This is the whitest, most Midwest meatloaf ever. It's food for people who think a large hunk of meat must be good because it's a large hunk of meat.

Yes, it's under seasoned, but what it's missing is breadcrumbs. Without a panade, meatloaf is a texture nightmare.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 245d

Reading with blurry glasses
4 to 6 pounds beef
1 pounds catsup
1 pounds mustard
1,pounds baby teeth idk

I should clean these

Ledivin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 245d (5 replies)

No breadcrumbs was my immediate thought... it might not even be that underseasoned (due to the soup mix), but it ain't holding any of its moisture and the texture is gonna be really bad.

buttnugget@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d (4 replies)

The fact that both of you are calling this underseasoned is baffling to me. It is way overseasoned.

Soulg@ani.social · 2 pts · 245d (1 reply)

That amount of seasoning is for closer to 2-3lb of beef, not double that

buttnugget@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 245d

A full packet of ranch mix? Ok maybe I’m wrong, I thought a full packet was enough to make a full jar of sauce!

howrar@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 245d (1 reply)

The fact that people are arguing about over/under seasoning like there's some objective truth is more baffling to me. Seasoning levels are wholly dependent on personal preference. No one even knows how big their packets of seasoning are.

buttnugget@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 245d

I’ll tell your waiter.

Agent641@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 245d (1 reply)

It is a loaf of meat, though.

pachrist@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 245d

Without the breadcrumb, it can be a loaf. It's a meatlog.

eleijeep@piefed.social · 26 pts · 246d (5 replies)

A Terabyte of ketchup? Have you seen the price of memory right now?

qarbone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 246d (4 replies)

That's RAM, innit? Unless you're on that TB of RAM grind.

eleijeep@piefed.social · 3 pts · 246d (2 replies)

SSD NAND is also being affected. Even spinning rust has gone up in price.

qarbone@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d

Man, seems like no one is allowed to have a good time.

VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d

At least floppy disk and punch card prices remain stable. For now.

buttnugget@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 245d

2 TB RAM is where it’s at. That’s what my goal is for my home server.

mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 246d

"have leftovers if it's just you". Bro needs to lay off the bulk eating I think. I just made two loaves with 3.2 lbs meat (total, not per loaf) and a cup of breadcrumbs that fed boardgame night (5 adults two toddlers) with a whole loaf to spare. Yes we had bread on the side but still. The math ain't mathing

edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 245d

Based on the other comments, apparently there's a reason this person only liked their mom's meatloaf and not anyone else's:

They don't like meatloaf, cuz baby that ain't it

twinnie@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 246d (6 replies)

Do people eat this as a meal? It’s just ground meat?

mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 246d

As others said, sides. Most meatloaf recipes also include onions and other veggies in the loaf itself which is why there's a thread of comments here pointing out how this recipe as garbage. This is just a giant dry hamburger. Meatloaf also commonly has milk soaked breadcrumbs to pad the meat out so you don't need as much of the expensive stuff.

pebbles@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 246d

Ya normally have some sides with like mashed potatoes and green beans.

BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 246d (1 reply)

If you haven't had good meat loaf, you're really missing out.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d

Serious eats has a good recipe. Complicated, but good

Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 246d

Generally meatloaf is served along with whatever sides or veggies you would eat with any other meat product but yes people do actually eat it

paultimate14@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 246d

Maybe they just forgot to include the bread crumbs?

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 245d

On top of being homophobic, the mom has terrible taste

Akasazh@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 245d

It's not a great recipe for meatloaf, but it reads like something that would pair well with a bat out of hell, and that's the only meatloaf I care for.

swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 245d (3 replies)

6 lbs of meat in one meatloaf? This one meal would cost $60 today.

lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 245d

Not sure how much seasoning is in a soup mix but doesn't seem like it would be enough for that amount of meat either.

blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 245d (1 reply)

Beef is 3lbs for $20 so it's closer to $30-$40 depending on whether you do min or max

Turkey is cheaper than that

swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 223d

Where I live, ground beef is about $10 per lb, but if you can get it in bulk for a better price, I guess that makes more sense for a special/holiday meal.

glorkon@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 245d (14 replies)

What's the deal with Americans putting onion soup mix into everything?

buttnugget@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 245d (7 replies)

It probably tastes great. What do you mean by “what’s the deal”? Like, what’s the origin?

blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 245d (2 replies)

Why not use real onion, garlic etc?

Like the ingredients for onion soup...

Instead of processed shite 

howrar@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 245d (1 reply)

One of them is shelf stable and much faster

chaitae3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d

And one of them has roasting flavor transpiring from floured, sautéed onions to the meat but takes 5 minutes longer to make.

glorkon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d (3 replies)

It's the same as using processed cheese, which Americans also think is just fine and dandy. Throwing ultra processed food together is not cooking.

And then these same people tell the English they have bad food...

Soulg@ani.social · 6 pts · 245d (2 replies)

Because onion soup mix gives a different flavor than an onion? I only use real onions in mine personally but that's a really stupid question, they do it because they think it tastes good.

If you think one ingredient being powder instead of a chopped vegetable makes it not cooking anymore, you're just kind of a snob. Don't make your food that way.

glorkon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d (1 reply)

I stated an opinion about a thing, you voiced an opinion about me. That's a notable difference between our comments, and a thing that seems to be completely normal on today's internet.

Also, you could easily replace the onion soup mix with onion powder, beef bouillon and some spices. That would get rid of the other crap like the cornstarch, sugar, caramel color, corn syrup solids, yeast extract, high oleic sunflower oil, disodium guanylate, disodium inosinate and artificial flavoring that you get with your onion soup mix.

If not wanting to eat all that crap that comes with ultra processed food makes me a snob, so be it.

Nanzer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 245d

Your last line invited the comments to become personal by mentioning that those "same people" tell English they have bad food.

Both can be bad btw. Many English comfort foods aren't much better than this meat loaf recipe.

EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 245d

It's a cheap and easy replacement for actual seasoning. My family has a recipe for a dip that's literally just onion soup mix and sour cream. It's delicious, but it's really just deconstructed sour cream and onions flavored potato chips with extra seasoning and real sour cream.

MehBlah@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 245d

It saves some from having spices on hand.

jacksilver@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 245d (2 replies)

Its essentially just pre-mixed spices. I know people could make the mix on their own, but it's not too far of a jump from things like Garam Masala or Chili Powder (both of which are just pre-mixed spices).

rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 244d (1 reply)

Isn't chili powder just pulverized chilis?

jacksilver@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 244d

I think it can be, but typically it's actually a blend of spices (one of them being ground cayenne peppers).

lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 245d

Everyone's been trying to make shit fast and easy for decades and no one knows how to actually cook anymore.

BakerBagel@midwest.social · 4 pts · 246d (2 replies)

I put diced parsley and onion, shredded carrots, and oats in my meatloaf, plus a ketchup/vinegar/brown sugar coating in top to really keep it moist. Qnd i only bake it for an hour or so. This meatloaf sounds god awful.

Soulg@ani.social · 1 pts · 245d

Well now I'm going to try shredded carrots next time I make meat loaf, that sounds very interesting

njm1314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d

I'm convinced shredded carrots is the key to meatloaf. I don't know why but any recipe that doesn't have it sucks.

itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 246d

I know everyone's meatloaf recipe is different but throw a few slices of bacon on top before putting it in the oven. Trust me.

Professorozone@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 245d

Thought one of the ingredients was going to be cocaine or something or that OP was going to serve it to the mother in the shape of a giant penis. Gotta say I'm a bit disappointed. No punchline.