Advocates call for removal of machines and demand that company speak out against ICE raids in parking lots
A Home Depot in Los Angeles installed three high pitch noise-emitting machines outside to deter day laborers from seeking work there, causing them to suffer headaches and nausea, advocates alleged at a press conference on Wednesday.
The Instituto de Educacion Popular del Sur de California (IDEPSCA), an advocacy organization that helps day laborers, called for the removal of these machines from Home Depot's Cypress Park location, according to the Los Angeles Times
Advocates for day laborers also demanded that Home Depot speak out against ICE raids in store parking lots. Immigration enforcement agents have repeatedly targeted the Cypress Park location, which is located near one of IDEPSCA's support hubs, the Times reported.
111 Comments
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 159 pts · 265d
Do they not realize this will also drive away their own customers?
FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world · 91 pts · 265d
The libs will be owned, damn the consequences!
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 265d
No shit imagine heading to Home Depot and suddenly getting sick. Imagine We can sue the fuck out of them?
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 15 pts · 265d
Listen to the video. I'd never be back if I didn't already hate the place. It's kinda a shitty store already.
https://imginn.com/p/DRhl5vPkSMX/
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 264d
Dude that site is toxic with ads not watching freaking ads.
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 264d
So... You're complaining to me about ads, that I don't even see... Because why?
Because you need an ad-blocker?
Best of luck on the Internet.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 264d
I mean, I'm sure their username isn't Fredselfsufficient for a reason.
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 264d
Lol. True, friend. True.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 264d
Sorry, do you have someone tie your shoes for you? Spoonfeed you? Wipe your ass? Thafuq are you even trying to accomplish with this comment, Karen? Christ on a pogo stick.
dickalan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 264d
What the fucking fuck my guy are you making money off the back end with all those ads that webpage is serving, fuck you
Quexotic@infosec.pub · -2 pts · 264d
So... You're complaining to me about ads, that I don't even see... Because why?
Because you need an ad-blocker?
Best of luck on the Internet.
dickalan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 264d
Or you know I could just not go to ad filled hellhole websites, the more ads the lower quality of the reporting in any case so good luck with that buddy shoveling dubious propaganda down Your throat
errer@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 265d
Home Depot doesn’t give a fuck about their customers
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 265d
The last time I went they had close up cameras at the cash registers so I’m already driven away.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 265d
Presumably they do.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 265d
Seriously though: it's probably designed to be harmless if you walk from your truck straight to the store. Spend little time in the lot.
It will just leave you with a subtle feeling of discomfort.
Maybe it will loosen up someone's guts.
ebolapie@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 265d
The classic marketing move of making your customers associate your store with a subtle feeling of discomfort.
dickalan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 264d
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 265d
Janx@piefed.social · 99 pts · 265d
Boycott Home Depot. The only language these *giant corporations understand is money.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 265d
Or maybey take a stroll through the store, very slowly, so you dont accudently knock something off the shelf.
Definately dont purchase and return things.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 265d
Watch out, we got a badass over here
bagsy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 265d
1000 badasses could have a 1000 little accidents, and no one is going to jail. One guy with a can of kerosene and a lighter is going straight to jail.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 265d
Yes. Do not purchase a dozen gallons of flammable spirits and some matches, and then "return" them to Home Depot after the store is closed and empty of people.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 265d
I wonder what would happen if you walked through a store with one of these devices. How could they bust you if its okay for the store to do it?
njm1314@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 265d
So they're just assaulting all the customers who are trying to walk into the store then?
rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 265d
And the employees, too.
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 264d
Hell, report it to CalOSHA
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 84 pts · 265d
Home Depot is based in Georgia and the founder was fully supportive of republicans. Don’t be surprised when the store espouses his values.
0ndead@infosec.pub · 76 pts · 265d
I don’t think this is legal
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 98 pts · 265d
gestures to all of the federal government
lando55@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 265d
But... what about the autopen
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com · 75 pts · 265d
This should be considered assault against anyone nearby
pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip · 46 pts · 264d
Wouldn’t this also drive customers away?
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 3 pts · 263d
I'm Autistic and as a kid I couldn't attend any concerts or places with very loud music because the sound waves were so powerful they shook my ribcage and made me feel like my chest was going to explode. That continued into very early adulthood, too. It isn't as bad now as a middle aged Autistic person, but I would not ever shop at a place that actively doesn't want me there.
NutWrench@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 265d
How do these machines not make Home Depot customers sick, as well? I'm calling BS.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 264d
Customers walk by for 10-15 seconds. Day laborers hang out for hours.
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 264d
This is such stupid dystopic shit. I wouldnt risk ANY exposure to that thing.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 37 pts · 264d
protist@mander.xyz · 33 pts · 265d
Cities should all operate publicly-run day labor programs to protect workers from shit like this and from contractors who would steal their wages or put them in unsafe conditions
Also boycott Home Depot
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 265d
Sorry, in 2026, the best we can do is to allow you to legally sell yourself into indentured servitude for a period of time. Yup, that's it. We're bringing back literal peonage. Also we're bringing back debt slavery for student loans. /sigh
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 265d
Cities should operate unionized day labour programs so nothing gets done unless people are taken care of.
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 264d
They do. But people don't usually sign up for these services voluntarily in my experience.
salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 265d
What the noise machines look like:
Instagram source through imginn
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 265d
JFC I listened to the video for 0.25 seconds and that was enough.
I bet that has at least $100 worth of copper in it.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 265d
It's held on there with zip ties. Why, you could probably find something to deal with that right at home Depot.
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 9 pts · 265d
And then return it after you're done...
beemikeoak@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 264d
You could try to figure out how to use it for personal uses if you legally found one of these devices.
Example... Have you ever been to a bank where loud porn is playing? It would be a totally unique experience.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 264d
I'll just sit back and observe that with interest, thank you.
beemikeoak@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 264d
Hello and welcome to Wells Fargo! Yes baby! Yes! Harder! Are you here for a deposit or a withdrawal? Feel my throbbing rod! Gluck, Gluck Gluck,! No, I want someone to do me please!
Saapas@piefed.zip · 28 pts · 265d
Hanging around in a parking lot hoping to get work sounds strange. Is this a common thing? Does it have to do with working off the books or working without work permit?
bigfondue@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 265d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 55 pts · 265d
The same contractors are MAGA and support ICE.
bigfondue@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 265d
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 265d
Easy to keep people in line when you can just whistle and away they go
Horsey@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 265d
Both and more. There are very few places you can walk into and get a job these days. Many Mexican immigrants come to America and try to work trades jobs to get by because it’s easier than a traditional 9-5 job with citizenship/visa requirements.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 265d
Are they allowed to be hired or does tht happen off-the-books illegally? Undeclared work around construction is not rare where I'm from but the scale of it just surprises me, that you'd just wait around in a parking lot for work.
comador@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 265d
I live in San Diego, California. where I can literally see the city of Tijuana, Mexico.
Day laborers would traditionally gather near the entrance of Home Depot or Lowes just beyond their property lines early everyday.
They will then solicit themselves to customers by offering to do either construction, landscaping, painting, moving or other physical labor jobs for cash paid work of either a half day or a full day.
They will not do anything less than 4 hours of work because it may result in them not getting another job for the rest of the day. They will often ask for a small amount upfront or at a minimum: a verbal agreement on a total amount to be paid in cash when completed.
They work hard and do a good job. Now however, they do not congregate in large groups anymore and many are just getting jobs being paid under the table doing gardening or whatever. Anything to stay below ICE's radar.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 265d
I'm guessing most of these are people who have come in illegally or otherwise don't have work permits? It makes more sense that they're hired for simpler handyman stuff, I was imagining some bigger construction projects where at least where I live they can be pretty strict about checking the paperwork. Off-the-books handyman stuff is somewhat common, but theyre hired through different ways. "I know a guy", some websites or Facebook groups. Usually it is local or maybe Estonian people who do it because they want to avoid taxes.
comador@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 265d
They do not have any documents, permits or reasonable identification most of the time. They are truly illegal immigrants who came to the USA illegally using what we call Coyotes (Human smugglers) who move humans to the US for a paid fee (very similar to what immigrants coming by boat to the shores of the EU or UK go through in a way).
They send some or all of their earnings back to Mexico btw. Sometimes the money goes to a wife and kids there, other times it's for an ailing parent/sibling. They're truly taking a risk to better their lives.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 264d
IB or San Ysidro?
IB here.
comador@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d
South Chula Vista actually, just north of the 905 off main st haha.
Horsey@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 265d
LA county is more populated than most entire states. It’s a numbers game. My husband hired a Home Depot laborer to tile the entire house (before we met) for like 1K. That kind of labor on the books would cost probably 5x that because of overhead.
I don’t see how it’s possible to police under the table work. Many labor deals fly under the radar because of that fact.
Now, the downside to hiring cheap labor is that there’s absolutely no recourse should the worker fuck up your house or project. I’d personally never hire someone to do an under the table job for something important like a roof or electrical work.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 265d
There are almost no trades certifiers in the US.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 12 pts · 265d
A lot of temp agencies in my area have day laborers on the books, which means they're supposed to use the verification database, in theory.
It's quite common for native - born and immigrants to gather in parking lots where construction, hotel and other service industry supervisors may need an extra employee or crew due to regular hire unforseen absences, or rush projects. For example, a smoker in a non-smoking unit, hotel deep cleaning, or a construction project that won't get paid because the deadline is too close for the regular crew to finish on time. Also ordinary citizens who may need help moving, or a home repair they thought they could manage on their own but can't.
I just foresee this irritating customers, and without forethought.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 265d
We are talking about a shithole country so it may well be normal.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 264d
Yes, and it was pretty convenient, honestly, and I doubt laborers were harassing people to hire them for non-existent work.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 264d
Yeah this is kind of conflicting feelings for me because definitely fuck both megacorps and ICE, but on the other hand I don’t know any other countries where it’s common practice for individuals hang around hardware stores for work.
dickalan@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 264d
How rich and pampered are you that you don't notice day laborers hanging around the Home Depot, do you live in LA, what the hell
Saapas@piefed.zip · 10 pts · 264d
We don't even have home depot in my country you fucking genious
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 264d
They probably just aren't American
velindora@lemmy.cafe · -17 pts · 265d
Found the rich kid
Saapas@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 265d
Why do you think I'm a rich kid? I work construction myself. And not the lucrative work either
velindora@lemmy.cafe · -7 pts · 265d
You work construction and you don’t know what a day laborer is? My ass.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 264d
This is not a thing in my country you asshat
velindora@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 264d
Which country is that?
Saapas@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 264d
Finland. I've never ever in my life heard about people picking up workers for anything from a damn parking lot.
dickalan@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 264d
Sorry for jumping down your throat, I guess shit works different in Finland
EtherWhack@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 264d
Not everyone lives in the US
Saapas@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 263d
This is shocking news to some, it seems. Some of these loons thought I was some government spy for not knowing about hiring work from hardware store parking lot.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 264d
Not the rich kid. More like the government/republikidfucker plant. Notice how every post he made has some mentioning of under the table or off the books or without a permit? He's trying to get ideas planted about how these workers are shoddy and doing illegal things and undercutting real, licensed, above board workers.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 264d
Funny how some of you think it's more likely I'm some government spy instead of not being an American. Get your head out of your ass, the rest of the world exists too.
velindora@lemmy.cafe · -2 pts · 263d
I think we are just surprised you know so little about the rest of the world.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 263d
Yes how dare I not know about the home depot workers in the Los Angeles. Fucking hell. Get over yourself and realize the rest of the world might work differently to you
velindora@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 263d
It’s about how you can’t comprehend undocumented immigrants finding cash work as day labor. Just shows you live in an isolated bubble.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 263d
I could comprehend it just fine when someone explained it. I've just never heard of this hanging around in parking lot to get work thing before so I was asking what the deal was. What a bubble to live in, not knowing about some Yank thing.
Like fuck off dude, stop assuming everyone is American and knows everything about the US. Rest of the world exists too. And you are saying I live in isolated bubble lol
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 25 pts · 265d
I guess they'll start hanging around outside of Lowe's and when I have a project that requires day-laborers that's who'll get my money for materials.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org · 23 pts · 264d
On the other hand, the city put up signs years ago near the HD nearest me to point out where the day labor gathering place is, as well as some car barriers to keep them from getting hit. As far as I can tell it’s worked out pretty well. Next time I need to move more stuff than my back will allow I’m planning on hiring someone.
BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 265d
You can email Home Depot by contacting them at: hdcares@homedepot.com
Let them know how you feel about these dangerous noise machines.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 16 pts · 265d
So, is Home Depot inadvertently helping immigrants? 🤔
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 264d
No surprise. Even though HD donates to both parties, they've been really right wing for a while.
And a cofounder was definitely right wing:
BanMe@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 264d
Lowe's is also conservative leaning, but less rabidly than Home Depot, and they have a program for hiring veterans, so it's a lesser of two evils, I go there first. Ace used to be cheaper and closer, now it's far more expensive.
Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 263d
Wouldn't that also deter customers?
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 265d
Are these similar machines to ones businesses use to "deter the homeless" that also end up harassing any neighbors?
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 265d
I did not have hitting the brown note in the parking lot trying to buy a hammer on my 2025 bingo card
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 263d
Sounds like Battery to me. Arrest anyone in the employee line who is responsible for this, right up to HQ.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 264d
Hmmm would it help with kidney stones?
Im trying to find the demographic cool with this.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d
Well thats one way to keep ICE away
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 259d
Seasm0ke@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 263d
Never shopping there again
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 265d
I don't understand. If they want people to stop seeking temp jobs there, wouldn't just always turning people away when they ask for day labor work? (And maybe put up a sign that says "we'll never give you day labor".) And given that they've gone to the length of installing machines, surely they already do always turn people away, in which case why are people braving the noise machines to wait to be turned away?
Is this people hoping that Home Depot customers will hire them for a day job for like... assistance with building a deck or whatever? The article makes it sound like they're asking the Home Depot itself for work, though.
Whatever the case, Home Depot is clearly bigoted assholes who are willing to be assholes to their customers so long as they can also be assholes to latinx folks, but I don't get quite what their motive here is, nor how they expect these machines accomplish whatever they're hoping.
Steve@startrek.website · 30 pts · 265d
Literally the day laborers are waiting for a customer to hire them. (Usually a contractor or whatever needs extra hands)
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 265d
For customers to hire them. Yeah, ok. That makes more sense. I mean, in the same way hostile architecture makes sense, but at least now I understand what they're trying to accomplish and how the machines further their fucked-up goals.
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 264d
Imagine you want several trenches dug. You could spend all weekend doing back breaking work. Or drive down and grab a load of day labor guys and spend a few hundred dollars to be done by lunch.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 265d
Customers to hire them. This is so common that the writers assume everyone knows.
Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 259d
Wouldnt standard PPE ear protection render this useless?