I agree but we have barely seen anything of what cloud gaming will become. Platforms like Steam will introduce it too. Especially after the Steam Machine is turning out to be such a headache for them because of uncertain hardware prices. This will happen and I am very afraid a lot of users will welcome it with open arms. We could be witnessing the end of home computers right now.
This is one of those situations where you're correct, but also being poopy about it. For people who don't regularly play games or can't afford a system, this is basically a modern blockbuster.
The reason people can't afford a system is because NVidia is screwing with the market in the name of AI. Before that they were doing the same in the name of crypto. They're one of the big companies manipulating politics in their favour, against the better interest of the general populace. They're standing alongside the companies that are pushing for mass-surveillance, they're pushing for people to lose their jobs, and for all the other nefarious ways AI is being applied.
But at least we can ignore our culpability and blame a computer when it decides to bomb a bus of brown school kids on the other side of the planet now, I guess.
I'm not sure I entirely buy that. For cloud gaming to be any good at all, you need a high-speed, low-latency internet connection. Yes, nowadays having an internet connection is pretty much a requirement in the industrialised world and even someone of lesser means will probably have one good enough to watch streaming video at a decent enough quality (unless they live in the middle of nowhere), but that's not good enough. So with the expensive internet connection and the monthly subscription, cloud gaming doesn't strike me as a very economical.
We've also been living in a period of diminishing returns when it comes to visual fidelity improving as hardware power does for a while now, so you can buy older, more affordable hardware and still have games look great on them. Meanwhile, I don't think someone who insists on being able to see the surroundings accurately reflected in every window and puddle is going to accept the compression artifacts and latency of cloud gaming.
You need to own the games to play them so if they turn it off then you can still use them on a different services or gaming pc...
But I guess you got a few tb on storage full of games and dont use any kind of launcher or digital marketplace, good for you to be able to afford that and yeah that makes you a non target audience.
Just save what you would spend on subscribing to tbis dumb shit for a few months and build your own machine so you don't have to throw money away on a subscription service.
There is the Steamdeck OLED still, Steam Machine and Steamframes on the way early 2026. Also there is enough used machines in the second hand marketplace to tide everyone else over until the AI bubble pops.
It has to eventually, right? It’s just straight up not sustainable, especially in its current form. But I do think the hype will carry things along for a little bit. No doubt things are gonna be ugly in the meantime
I mean "eventually" yes but for the foreseeable future Trump could continue dumping your and my money into it indefinitely in the name of "national security".
Yeah you’re not wrong. The AI market only exists in its current state because it’s heavily subsidized, and that very well may continue to be the case for at least the time being
I think it will pop. But oh no! Now what do we do with all these data centers equipped with endless GPU power and RAM that we are building? Oh, I know! Cloud gaming! In fact let‘s buy up even more GPUs and RAM then rent the computing power to companies Epic Games, Valve, Apple, Nvidia. Look! Microsoft is already adding it to Gamepass+++! And what‘s that? Is that Google Stadia with a steel chair?! Better be quick folks!
This is the future of mainstream gaming. I wish I was being sarcastic. It will be horrible.
What console does 4k/240hz?? Even PS5 Pro can't do 4k/60fps in most games, and usually it's at lower graphics settings too, Digital Foundry does pixel counting and frame rate tests
The deck is weak yeah, much weaker, so there's no need to embellish. PS5 runs plenty of games even below 1080p/60fps. Output is rarely the same as the actual rendering resolution.
You can't just look at the output resolution, otherwise that makes the PS5 and PS5 Pro equivalent in most games, which obviously doesn't make sense. You need to analyze the internal resolution, image quality, average frame rate instead of peak frame rate, graphics settings, etc
I'm not arguing against your point of the Deck being poor value if you just want to plug it into a TV and let it sit there.
"Yeah, we're gonna do this new fangled form of piracy. It's like the old way, but without the boats and parrots and stuff. We're just stealing stuff now."
I know a lot of people who would consider 3 hours of gaming a day to be plenty, and I know a lot of people who buy Nvidia products. They are not the same people.
Ha, no. Many older gamers have the disposable income but not the time or motivation to spend hundreds of hours on gaming per month. I know what I'm talking about.
Still never buying into that subscription bullshit.
what are people even paying for, 100h per month isn't that much if you have a fair amount of free time or would pause the games between doing other things. i'm expecting for posts about someone accidentally leaving it open and not being able to play for the rest of the month.
And now the other shoe drops. We can see what kind of future these companies are shaping for us. Where you have to pay them a subscription fee in order to use premium hardware. While they slowly stop selling it to the public.
I don't listen to influencers who make their entire damn money out of yelling at people "QUIT HAVING FUN!!!" or "YOUR GAME IS SLOP!!!" (while they literally play a slop of a different flavor) or got burned out by CoD for playing for so long that they hate it now and spend 90% of their time trashing it, sorry. I play the game myself and decide if I want to buy it or not.
Note that when Battlefield 6 launched I also put 100+ hours into it in like 2 weeks.
But yes, I should definitely be given a time limit sometimes LOL
Yeah I do this because I don't want to spend $$$ upgrading my rig and I don't have as much free time to justify hardware costs.
The paid plans start at $10/month. So $10/month to have hardware capabilities to play new games isnt bad. And if you want to divide it by hours additionally its $0.10/hour...
Between work, marriage, yard work, working out, and taking care of dogs, I'm lucky to get 10 hours a week and I make time for it as it's my primary hobby. How do other adults get 50+ hours online?!
yeah I'm literally unemployed and gaming is my primary hobby. I have NEVER hit 100hrs on GFN and I've been using it for years. I may not have a job, but I do have a life outside of games. I can't imagine someone who has both that has more than 100 hours of free time to game.
From what I understand about this subscription (I never looked into it before) it's basically like a reverse Game Pass? So you pay the monthly subscription, and you can play the games that are on the service, on different devices aside from just a PC?
While that does sound pretty cool and impressive, I can't imagine most people, or most anyone that calls themselves a gamer would touch this service with a 20' pole. Like at that point, just own the game and system you want. You can play whenever and for however long you want.
Also, this may sound weird, but after reading the article I have a strong urge to start a game and just let it run idle, racking up playtime. Out of spite for Nvidia I guess.
That too. Even though my Game Pass has been cancelled and I haven't had Xbox Live in a couple years, I can also still go into the Xbox PC app, install any game that I've bought that's also PC compatible or stream whatever I own that isn't (but still has cloud workability).
It's how I've been playing Halo Wars 2 lately. And I've seen the Fable games are cloud compatible, but I haven't tried those on PC yet.
You're really just renting hardware. You own all your games and they aren't tied to that service. The appeal is to play PC games without being on the perpetual hardware upgrade hamster wheel.
damn finally someone on the same page as me. we used to own things, now they're being rented to us at a premium.
companies are returning us to mainframe infrastructure so they can rent it out at the most optimized-price-gouging fashion. nvidia's just hedging their bets for when their taint-guzzling ai gambit inevitably splatters into the irrevocable shards of what's left of the US economy.
I wonder if there's some metric they're going off of where the majority of the subscriber base only plays less than 100hrs and the "abusers" or whales play over the 100hr mark.
100hr / 30 days is 3.3 hours a day. Which as a father of two... I'd be lucky to get that much in a day.
100hr / 20 days(5 days a week) is 5 hours a day.
100hr / 8 days (weekends only gaming) is 12.5 hours a day.
None of these are outrageous and probably are the "average" user of the service.
Now if you're doing 8 or 12 hours a day for 30 days, that's 240-360 hours a month. Which is pretty much gaming full time.
I think 100 hours is a weird number to land on. I think 120 hours makes more sense (4 hours a day over 30 days).
I do expect Nvidia to lower the hours over time. Expect to see 80 hours or 50 hours soon IMO.
IIRC it used to be 50 hours. Most people don't hit that.
As a Mac user in an area with good ping, I like GeForce Now. I'm not currently subscribed, though I have been in the past. Recently I've been leaning more into my Xbox for gaming.
I'm not calling them out for their bullshit, but my GPUs are onboard M2 and M2 Pro Apple Silicon chips. I'm a Mac user. I think my Xbox Series X uses an AMD GPU. I didn't choose it. My Switch has CPU/GPU technology by Nvidia. The original Switch was just a modded Nvidia Shield tablet and it originally ran Android (before it was released, I mean, the prototype did). Or it was rumoured to. I forget. My last Windows computer used an AMD GPU.
So as a Mac user, I'm actually a good candidate for GeForce Now. Mac guys tend to hate it because it's not taking advantage of the actual Apple chip, but if you're a gamer, you game where you can, how you can, when you can.
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Dojan@pawb.social · 181 pts · 232d
Don’t pay for this shit. It’s another case of “you’ll own nothing and stop fucking complaining, peasant.”
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 232d
I agree but we have barely seen anything of what cloud gaming will become. Platforms like Steam will introduce it too. Especially after the Steam Machine is turning out to be such a headache for them because of uncertain hardware prices. This will happen and I am very afraid a lot of users will welcome it with open arms. We could be witnessing the end of home computers right now.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 232d
This is one of those situations where you're correct, but also being poopy about it. For people who don't regularly play games or can't afford a system, this is basically a modern blockbuster.
Dojan@pawb.social · 43 pts · 232d
Yeah, I'll own that.
The reason people can't afford a system is because NVidia is screwing with the market in the name of AI. Before that they were doing the same in the name of crypto. They're one of the big companies manipulating politics in their favour, against the better interest of the general populace. They're standing alongside the companies that are pushing for mass-surveillance, they're pushing for people to lose their jobs, and for all the other nefarious ways AI is being applied.
But at least we can ignore our culpability and blame a computer when it decides to bomb a bus of brown school kids on the other side of the planet now, I guess.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 232d
Zero disagreement with any of that. It's a violent, brutal, racist, greedy, cyberpunk dystopia out there.
Burn it all dowm. 🔥🇺🇸🔥
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 232d
Where are all the renegade hackers sticking it to the man?
Actually, now that I think about, big companies and governments are getting hacked all the time. Which is cool.
BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 232d
For a long time, it was Ukraine. They're busy with something else now, for some reason
HetareKing@piefed.social · 2 pts · 231d
I'm not sure I entirely buy that. For cloud gaming to be any good at all, you need a high-speed, low-latency internet connection. Yes, nowadays having an internet connection is pretty much a requirement in the industrialised world and even someone of lesser means will probably have one good enough to watch streaming video at a decent enough quality (unless they live in the middle of nowhere), but that's not good enough. So with the expensive internet connection and the monthly subscription, cloud gaming doesn't strike me as a very economical.
We've also been living in a period of diminishing returns when it comes to visual fidelity improving as hardware power does for a while now, so you can buy older, more affordable hardware and still have games look great on them. Meanwhile, I don't think someone who insists on being able to see the surroundings accurately reflected in every window and puddle is going to accept the compression artifacts and latency of cloud gaming.
MadameBisaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -25 pts · 232d
Wut? Its a streaming service like Netflix and you own the games...
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 232d
If they can turn off your ability to play the games you don't own them
MadameBisaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 231d
You need to own the games to play them so if they turn it off then you can still use them on a different services or gaming pc... But I guess you got a few tb on storage full of games and dont use any kind of launcher or digital marketplace, good for you to be able to afford that and yeah that makes you a non target audience.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 231d
exactly
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world · 103 pts · 232d
4.6 trillion dollar company btw.
arin@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 232d
The dollars come from charging us extra. Nvidia has been well known in the early days being premium compared to AMD graphics.
Dojan@pawb.social · 10 pts · 232d
Aye, this is premium pricing, not necessarily premium quality. The biggest hassle I have with my PC comes from NVidia and their bullshit.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 9 pts · 232d
Watch just tells you how greedy and miserly they are.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 100 pts · 232d
Just save what you would spend on subscribing to tbis dumb shit for a few months and build your own machine so you don't have to throw money away on a subscription service.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 232d
In a few months there won’t be any affordable equipment.
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 232d
There is the Steamdeck OLED still, Steam Machine and Steamframes on the way early 2026. Also there is enough used machines in the second hand marketplace to tide everyone else over until the AI bubble pops.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 232d
I don’t think it will pop. I think it will continue to gobble up components for the next 5 years.
b_crussin@programming.dev · 5 pts · 232d
It has to eventually, right? It’s just straight up not sustainable, especially in its current form. But I do think the hype will carry things along for a little bit. No doubt things are gonna be ugly in the meantime
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 7 pts · 232d
I big game machine that gives money to rich people isn't going to break until there literally isn't any more money left.
Take a look at countries with people starving in the streets while rich people live in gated compounds. Still think it "has to pop"?
artyom@piefed.social · 5 pts · 232d
I mean "eventually" yes but for the foreseeable future Trump could continue dumping your and my money into it indefinitely in the name of "national security".
b_crussin@programming.dev · 4 pts · 232d
Yeah you’re not wrong. The AI market only exists in its current state because it’s heavily subsidized, and that very well may continue to be the case for at least the time being
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 232d
I think it will pop. But oh no! Now what do we do with all these data centers equipped with endless GPU power and RAM that we are building? Oh, I know! Cloud gaming! In fact let‘s buy up even more GPUs and RAM then rent the computing power to companies Epic Games, Valve, Apple, Nvidia. Look! Microsoft is already adding it to Gamepass+++! And what‘s that? Is that Google Stadia with a steel chair?! Better be quick folks!
This is the future of mainstream gaming. I wish I was being sarcastic. It will be horrible.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 232d
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com · 5 pts · 232d
What console does 4k/240hz?? Even PS5 Pro can't do 4k/60fps in most games, and usually it's at lower graphics settings too, Digital Foundry does pixel counting and frame rate tests
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 232d
Sorry meant 4k/120, which the ps5 does natively, doesn’t need to be pro.
Link
And there’s a host of games that are 4k/120, sorry to burst your reality bubble, consoles hit heavy now.
And if you want to talk down sampling, the deck does it worse.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 232d
The deck is weak yeah, much weaker, so there's no need to embellish. PS5 runs plenty of games even below 1080p/60fps. Output is rarely the same as the actual rendering resolution.
You can't just look at the output resolution, otherwise that makes the PS5 and PS5 Pro equivalent in most games, which obviously doesn't make sense. You need to analyze the internal resolution, image quality, average frame rate instead of peak frame rate, graphics settings, etc
I'm not arguing against your point of the Deck being poor value if you just want to plug it into a TV and let it sit there.
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 232d
Do you not know what the term “native” means?
Not all games use the checkerboard upsampling. If they do, they can’t be called “NATIVE” 4k.
I’m not looking at the output resolution, I’ve educated myself on what the console is capable of.
You haven’t.
NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com · 1 pts · 232d
This was prior to the RAM rising, but Valve stated that the Steam Frame would be cheaper than the Index which was at $999 USD.
That could change now after RAM pricing, but nothing has been said yet.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 232d
Pirate 🦜🦜 time
Zorque@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 232d
...Pirate hardware?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 13 pts · 232d
That was the OG way of piracy. Except the hardware was, like, rum, sugar, and cannons. 🤷♂️
Zorque@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 232d
"Yeah, we're gonna do this new fangled form of piracy. It's like the old way, but without the boats and parrots and stuff. We're just stealing stuff now."
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 8 pts · 232d
Why can't we have boats and parrots? 😕
Zorque@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 232d
Unfortunately they also come with scurvy 😔
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 232d
Finally, a programmer that actually knows what he is talking about... PirateHardware...
kboy101222@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 232d
Pretty hard to pirate RAM. Sadly all the wam you can download is DDR3
gahedros@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 232d
kboy101222@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 232d
cough read the full comment cough
artyom@piefed.social · 22 pts · 232d
I'd love to see what kind of gaming PC you're going to build with $30.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 232d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 232d
looks like it can run crysis
etchinghillside@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 232d
If they hear you say that they’ll jack up component prices more.
theterrasque@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 232d
I paid $200 for ultimate for a year and got borderlands 4 included in it.
You'd be challenged to build a decent gaming PC for 3 times that.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 232d
No, no, no. They said save up for a few months. So we're looking at $75 tops.
theterrasque@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 232d
Let's be generous and say $100. That's 6 months with the most expensive tier.
That should be plenty to get a gaming PC capable of playing latest AAA titles in 4k 60 fps and high settings.
It's one computer, Michael. What could it cost, 10 dollars?
BetaBlake@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 232d
Next up is rentable GPUs with a subscription. You'll eventually own nothing
Evotech@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d
I mean, that exists. Just not for gaming specifically
Holyginz@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 232d
100h is fucking nothing. Such a waste of money
ThoGot@feddit.org · 9 pts · 232d
I don't know if you're joking or not. That's 3h 20 min per day spent on gaming lol
OrganicWetNoodle@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 232d
What a sober reminder that most people on these platforms are either 20 years old or don't have kids, jobs and responsibilities, lol.
Regardless, fuck this enshittified subscription bullshit.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 8 pts · 232d
I know a lot of people who would consider 3 hours of gaming a day to be plenty, and I know a lot of people who buy Nvidia products. They are not the same people.
zqps@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 231d
Ha, no. Many older gamers have the disposable income but not the time or motivation to spend hundreds of hours on gaming per month. I know what I'm talking about.
Still never buying into that subscription bullshit.
simple@piefed.social · 30 pts · 232d
what are people even paying for, 100h per month isn't that much if you have a fair amount of free time or would pause the games between doing other things. i'm expecting for posts about someone accidentally leaving it open and not being able to play for the rest of the month.
BlackLaZoR@fedia.io · 31 pts · 232d
Its 3h per day. Enough for moderate user, but if you share with a family or just a hardcore gamer, you'll run out
Prox@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 232d
The Venn diagram of moderate users and GeForce subscribers has an overlap that's about 2mm wide.
BlackLaZoR@fedia.io · 15 pts · 232d
I imagine hardcore gamers will not tolerate the input lag. When I think hardcore gamer, I think high-end PC with high refresh display
theterrasque@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 232d
I'd think the main users of GeForce now are people who don't play games that much and won't spend that much money on gaming hardware.
MadameBisaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 232d
Theres an afk timeout, so that should only result in loosing a few minutes of playtime
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 232d
And now the other shoe drops. We can see what kind of future these companies are shaping for us. Where you have to pay them a subscription fee in order to use premium hardware. While they slowly stop selling it to the public.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 232d
First they came for your music. Then they came for your movies. They came for your Games. Now they want your computers.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 232d
I wish I could hit 100 hours of playtime a month.
Still cheaper than buying a gaming PC by far.
ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 232d
Got kids?
lepinkainen@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 232d
And a spouse who wants together time. Also other hobbies than gaming.
The only thing I consistently do over a 100 hours a month is sleep 😅
ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 232d
Aye, same. Should hope you're getting more than 100 hours of sleep!
Second highest is work. Boo.
Johnmannesca@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 232d
Have you considered local 2 player games?
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d
That's nice.
placebo@lemmy.zip · -11 pts · 232d
Don_alForno@feddit.org · 21 pts · 232d
You're literally the boiled frog right now and it would be funny to watch if it wasn't so sad.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 232d
Destiny players looking nervous
DoctorPress@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 232d
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 232d
That's just the game plan for NViDiA
SalamenceFury@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 232d
I hit 112 hours in Black Ops 7 in two weeks.
Genuinely eat shit, Nvidia.
turkalino@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 232d
If that’s the game you choose to dump your time into, maybe you should be given a limit…^/s^
SalamenceFury@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 232d
I don't listen to influencers who make their entire damn money out of yelling at people "QUIT HAVING FUN!!!" or "YOUR GAME IS SLOP!!!" (while they literally play a slop of a different flavor) or got burned out by CoD for playing for so long that they hate it now and spend 90% of their time trashing it, sorry. I play the game myself and decide if I want to buy it or not.
Note that when Battlefield 6 launched I also put 100+ hours into it in like 2 weeks.
But yes, I should definitely be given a time limit sometimes LOL
arin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 232d
In other words "Nothing beats having restrictions!!! bdsm cbt ftw!!"
Ok_imagination@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 232d
https://www.ameriburn.org/burn-care-team/resources/find-a-burn-center
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 18 pts · 232d
Remember, you're borrowing their hours from AI data centers, and AI takes precedence. Don't use this service
artyom@piefed.social · 11 pts · 232d
That's. 3.33 hours/day. That's a whole lot of playtime...
Valmond@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 232d
For now...
"It's twice the price now, or the same price for 55h"
Eheran@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 232d
Wasn't it 50 h before? So now 2x as much? No need to be anti someone based on prejudice alone.
Elextra@literature.cafe · 12 pts · 232d
Yeah I do this because I don't want to spend $$$ upgrading my rig and I don't have as much free time to justify hardware costs.
The paid plans start at $10/month. So $10/month to have hardware capabilities to play new games isnt bad. And if you want to divide it by hours additionally its $0.10/hour...
artyom@piefed.social · 2 pts · 232d
Yeah I mean it makes a whole lot of sense if you have the connection to support it, in my opinion.
Elextra@literature.cafe · 5 pts · 232d
Yeah I pay for Fiber Internet where I am. And unfortunately I only have time to play except for weekends.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 232d
Maybe for dad gamers.
artyom@piefed.social · 6 pts · 232d
Dude I'm lucky if I get 3 free hours a week! And I'm not even a Dad! What're you guys doing with your lives!?
Speculater@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 232d
Between work, marriage, yard work, working out, and taking care of dogs, I'm lucky to get 10 hours a week and I make time for it as it's my primary hobby. How do other adults get 50+ hours online?!
placebo@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 232d
Evotech@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 232d
Don’t have a yard, don’t get a dog, don’t work out, don’t be married etc
Speculater@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 232d
That makes me both jealous and sad for them at the same time.
Nilz@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 232d
Playing games it seems.
RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 232d
yeah I'm literally unemployed and gaming is my primary hobby. I have NEVER hit 100hrs on GFN and I've been using it for years. I may not have a job, but I do have a life outside of games. I can't imagine someone who has both that has more than 100 hours of free time to game.
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 232d
From what I understand about this subscription (I never looked into it before) it's basically like a reverse Game Pass? So you pay the monthly subscription, and you can play the games that are on the service, on different devices aside from just a PC?
While that does sound pretty cool and impressive, I can't imagine most people, or most anyone that calls themselves a gamer would touch this service with a 20' pole. Like at that point, just own the game and system you want. You can play whenever and for however long you want.
Also, this may sound weird, but after reading the article I have a strong urge to start a game and just let it run idle, racking up playtime. Out of spite for Nvidia I guess.
Prox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 232d
Game Pass also lets you do this via cloud play.
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 232d
That too. Even though my Game Pass has been cancelled and I haven't had Xbox Live in a couple years, I can also still go into the Xbox PC app, install any game that I've bought that's also PC compatible or stream whatever I own that isn't (but still has cloud workability).
It's how I've been playing Halo Wars 2 lately. And I've seen the Fable games are cloud compatible, but I haven't tried those on PC yet.
breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 232d
You're really just renting hardware. You own all your games and they aren't tied to that service. The appeal is to play PC games without being on the perpetual hardware upgrade hamster wheel.
cuckmaster69@lemmy.billiam.net · 3 pts · 232d
damn finally someone on the same page as me. we used to own things, now they're being rented to us at a premium.
companies are returning us to mainframe infrastructure so they can rent it out at the most optimized-price-gouging fashion. nvidia's just hedging their bets for when their taint-guzzling ai gambit inevitably splatters into the irrevocable shards of what's left of the US economy.
MadameBisaster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 232d
Yeah its for casual gamers, you can play on phone, iPad, mac etc comfortably
eli@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 232d
I wonder where they got 100hr?
I wonder if there's some metric they're going off of where the majority of the subscriber base only plays less than 100hrs and the "abusers" or whales play over the 100hr mark.
100hr / 30 days is 3.3 hours a day. Which as a father of two... I'd be lucky to get that much in a day.
100hr / 20 days(5 days a week) is 5 hours a day.
100hr / 8 days (weekends only gaming) is 12.5 hours a day.
None of these are outrageous and probably are the "average" user of the service.
Now if you're doing 8 or 12 hours a day for 30 days, that's 240-360 hours a month. Which is pretty much gaming full time.
I think 100 hours is a weird number to land on. I think 120 hours makes more sense (4 hours a day over 30 days).
I do expect Nvidia to lower the hours over time. Expect to see 80 hours or 50 hours soon IMO.
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 232d
you really don't want to piss off your paying customers who have more than a hundred hours of free time a month to trash you online lol
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 231d
Just part of the lifecycle of every digital service.
Enzy@feddit.nu · 8 pts · 232d
Use Boosteroid instead.
Fuck NVIDIA.
Elextra@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 232d
Hey! Thanks for providing another option for me to check out! Appreciate
sommerset@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 231d
First time I heard of this saas
silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk · 6 pts · 232d
Then what's the point
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 232d
Oh come on! I could get through that in just over four days.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 232d
That's better than what I heard earlier. The article o read the other day made it sound like it would buy the next block of 15 hours
Cloudstash@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
chocrates@piefed.world · 2 pts · 232d
Get a GPU and install moonlight. You can even do gpu passthrough and do it on a VM.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 232d
IIRC it used to be 50 hours. Most people don't hit that.
As a Mac user in an area with good ping, I like GeForce Now. I'm not currently subscribed, though I have been in the past. Recently I've been leaning more into my Xbox for gaming.
Damage@feddit.it · 7 pts · 232d
Adding this limit doesn't make sense then. Why anger your customers for minimum benefit?
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d
I prefer buying Nvidia stock instead of their offerings
the_q@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 232d
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 232d
raises hand
I bought my GPU 6 years ago tho. My steam deck is amd. And my next gou will be amd also.
Elextra@literature.cafe · 3 pts · 232d
I'm not sure how close they are and how their familial relationship affects things but the CEOs of both companies are related.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 232d
Oh boy. Didn't know this.
All family has drama though... Right?... Right?
hank_the_tank66@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 232d
Am I allowed to call them out if I'm running a 1080Ti that I got second hand?
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 232d
EVGA 1080Ti owner here. Definitely not happy with the way NVidia has been acting for a while.
The loss of EVGA GPUs was already tragic enough because of NVidia. Now their recent actions? Not happy.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 232d
I'm not calling them out for their bullshit, but my GPUs are onboard M2 and M2 Pro Apple Silicon chips. I'm a Mac user. I think my Xbox Series X uses an AMD GPU. I didn't choose it. My Switch has CPU/GPU technology by Nvidia. The original Switch was just a modded Nvidia Shield tablet and it originally ran Android (before it was released, I mean, the prototype did). Or it was rumoured to. I forget. My last Windows computer used an AMD GPU.
So as a Mac user, I'm actually a good candidate for GeForce Now. Mac guys tend to hate it because it's not taking advantage of the actual Apple chip, but if you're a gamer, you game where you can, how you can, when you can.