Gamers Lose It After 007 First Light Demands Hardware That Doesn’t Exist in System Requirements: 'Remember When Games Were Optimized?'
https://thenerdstash.com/gamers-lose-it-after-007-first-light-demands-hardware-that-doesnt-exist-in-system-requirements-remember-when-games-were-optimized/
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darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 145 pts · 207d
Link complains about adblock.
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 207d
Embedded Tweet: https://xcancel.com/007GameIOI/status/2008599546708787297
Also:
Probably not much of a stretch to expect a Amazon Luna (streaming) version of that game. "Too hardware hungry for you? No problem, just sign up to our game streaming service."
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 207d
Huh. So if games are just horribly optimized and hardware costs a fortune, it will push more people to cloud/streaming their games. The corporations just keep winning. What a wonderful timeline we live in.
glitches_brew@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 207d
And no doubt an optimized version of the game will exist but only at the enterprise level for streaming providers.
sorghum@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 207d
Indie games it is then.
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 207d
If that means more stuff like Stardew Valley then I'm in.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 207d
Yep its pretty gross.
Also why they love the ai bubble. They can buy up all the hardware and price us all out.
I foresee in 10 years the majority of homes not having a computer at all or a dumb terminal connected to Amazon. Hell it probably already is that way
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 207d
Hey, Alexa....
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 206d
The scary part is it will become the norm and we will be the weird ones who want to actually own their pc and control their data.
Ah well
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 207d
Ah, induced demand. A cornerstone of capitalism.
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 207d
FWIW, Amazon bought the James Bond IP last year (and also owns MGM Studios as of 2022). The relationship between this game and Amazon may be nothing more than that.
moncharleskey@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 207d
Which is why I was very surprised to see the Bond movies coming the Netflix. What's that all about?
HailSeitan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 206d
Money. Netflix money.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 207d
Why the five screens worth of breaks?
picnic@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 207d
Thanks.
Out of those specs, what doesnt exist?
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 107 pts · 207d
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 207d
Something tells me some marketing putz had Gen AI do this for them.
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 207d
I added some info here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61216924/23625102
ICastFist@programming.dev · 31 pts · 207d
All that shit for a game that will look and perform worse than The Order 1886 or Ryse son of Rome
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 207d
I'm going to be honest, IOI's focus on massive seamless open areas with tons of detailed, (relatively) intelligent NPCs all running like clockwork is one of the few use cases for massive amounts of RAM that I find acceptable. Improving their systems from Hitman is vastly preferable to making the game look slightly shinier.
glimse@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 207d
The NPCs are a big part of what makes Hitman so great. A dlc where they create brand new routes for every NPC would be like playing a brand new game
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 207d
I wouldn't take it seriously. 1660 has 6gb while they list 8 as the min and the 3060ti has 8gb and they say recommended needs 12. Probably AI generated crap.
Also, if it's going to be based on the hitman 3 engine, it'll run really well on most hardware.
Hitman 3 Recommended Requirements
An upgraded engine with RT will probably mean at least 3600/3060 for 1080/60.
BurntWits@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 207d
I play a ton of Hitman 3 on a laptop (11800H, 3060 mobile, 16gb ram) and it runs fantastic. Just in case anyone has similar or better specs to me, wondering if they could run it well.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 pts · 207d
This is a new kind of Adblock detection that is being deployed on many blogs, some forums, and other websites and it’s the next generation. AdGuard or uBlock won’t save you because the way it works is outside the scope of those plugins.
There’s essentially JS that happens before the page render that checks for resolution with fingerprinting servers. If this does not occur you get the error message about html-load.com or content-loader.com or whatever that looks like malware intercepting the page.
If the page implements the JS poorly (eg the page renders before the checks come back) it’s easily defeated with ublock by just blocking element and selecting the overlay. Though the page usually isn’t fully rendered it’s enough to read the content. Reader mode can often work in this scenario too. But on more competent blogs with actual tech support (like seriouseats.com, fuck you kenji, like you don’t have enough money), it’s implemented more competently and the page won’t render at all prior to the checks coming back.
As a result a solution is to lie. It’s cumbersome but if you run adguard dns (or maybe pihole, if that can also do dns rewrites, not sure), you can rewrite the offending servers checked for fingerprinting you like:
api64.ipify.org
cdn.cookielaw.org
id5-sync.com
cdn.id5-sync.com
dotdash-meredith.solutions.cdn.optable.co
static.cloudflareinsights.com
html-load.com
content-loader.com
To a null route on your network for all subdomains. Somewhere run a docker and rewrite them to resolve to that docker, run nginx on that docker and basically just have it return 204 to all requests you funnel to it.
Now those sites run the JS, there is dns resolution, tls handshake, fetch and response, but no fingerprint or analytics. It’s not perfect, the error still occurs 1:5 tries, but closing tab and retrying almost always has the page render fine without issue.
Just keep in mind that some of these will break other sites (specifically cookielaw.org and lots of shitty shopping sites) especially if you do this lazily and just route to nothing instead of something that can return 204.
Fuck all advertisers, never turn Adblock off, steal all content, defeat any antiadblock measure, destroy the ad industry because they ruined the world
sanpo@sopuli.xyz · 24 pts · 206d
I'll just do what I always did on websites that think they have a say in the matter: leave and never come back.
CodeBlooded@programming.dev · 7 pts · 206d
This is the way.
Almost nothing is worth my time to dance around their adblock blockers and almost anything on the internet can just be found on a different site.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 206d
Valid
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 207d
Huh, ublock is working great for me on seriouseats. I wonder what the difference is
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 206d
browser? I'm on firefox and no issue so far
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 206d
Same
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 206d
maybe it is an issue with the new manifest v3
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 206d
That would make sense, yeah
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 206d
same
UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev · 3 pts · 207d
Disabling JS via ublock works for this specific site
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 207d
This works on some sites but not all in my experience. Nothing works on all 100% of the time. My method generally works on all sites I’ve found that use this script (which is an increasing number and definitely on all dotdash Meredith sites like this/seriouseats/thespruce/etc) but it doesn’t work 100% of the time. I don’t know why. But anything that can defeat it should be promoted and that’s definitely much easier, should be tried first
kn0wmad1c@programming.dev · 17 pts · 207d
These specs were probably AI generated.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 207d
Yep my pc can't even run it properly(maybe?) and I don't think it has modding.
So am gonna pass on this.
JayGray91@piefed.social · 1 pts · 207d
holy shit that got a good hearty chuckle from me.
Laser@feddit.org · 91 pts · 207d
Nobody loses it, people are just mocking companies out of touch with reality.
A game that I can't play releases? Who gives a fuck? I have hundreds of other games to play
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 34 pts · 207d
Expect more titles to do this in order to push game streaming as a service. They have to do something with so that useless AI infrastructure.
NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 207d
Jokes on them, my backlog spans decades!
markovs_gun@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 206d
Yeah this. We've had like 50 years of home video games st this point. Even if big budget blockbuster games come out that I can't play without a subscription, I can just keep playing great old games that don't have any bullshit micro transactions or anything.
etherphon@midwest.social · 3 pts · 207d
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 207d
Don't remind me of my backlog...
Dogiedog64@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 207d
They wrote those fucking specs with ChatGPT didn't they.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 32 pts · 207d
I realised that this is what i hate the most about A.I. I keep thinking: wait, this was written by A.I?! I have a friend, and we don't talk too much anymore, but i keep thinking that he kinda changed. Sometimes in a good way, sometimes not so much. He showed me something he wrote to proof read and look if it's correct. Just looking at it, i knew that he didn't write that. It was weird, over the top and it was a "professional" letter, but it used weird emojis to get the point across. Then i suddenly realised, that he told me that chatgpt helped him with something, and i thought it was a joke. And that made me realise that people casually just use A.I for all kinds of shit, and it's not just something people on the internet do.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 206d
Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 206d
Unfortunately yes
boogiebored@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 207d
Are the specs just AI hallucination?
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 13 pts · 207d
That seems the most likely.
boogiebored@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 206d
I am sure a company that does that will produce a really high quality game!!
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 206d
As a Dane it sucks to see. IO Interactive was one of the first bigger Danish game studios to publish a breakthrough hit with the original Hitman games. Sad to see what they've become.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 207d
In an effort to future-proof the game, they present-faulted it.
realitista@lemmus.org · 33 pts · 207d
Or you can do what I do:
"meh, it will probably work."
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 207d
Or like I do. Pirate it first.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 207d
Or just ignore AAA and play indie. Which reminds me, I should see how Agent 64 is coming along.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 207d
A new and novel thing to search tambien! Thanks homie.
Edit: n64 shooter with m&k controls‽ I'm so fucking down!
f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 206d
https://github.com/fgsfdsfgs/perfect_dark
TORFdot0@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 207d
The system requirements are most likely AI slop
sirico@feddit.uk · 17 pts · 207d
Put programmers back in control
fox2263@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 207d
It’s ok. DLSS will pick up the slack.
/s
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 207d
So it's a game which is out of reach for many to play much less enjoy. Good luck on sales! Makes more sense to make games for the most common system type, like old school video game publishers used to do with consoles. This is just sloppy development and bad management rolled together.
Jumi@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 206d
I'm probably not missing much if I ignore this game like every other AAA title for the last few years.
underscores@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 207d
I personally doubt the dev team can make that 32gb requirement any lesser without a massive rework
verdi@feddit.org · 4 pts · 204d
10/10 the requirements slide was originally generated by AI by some poorly paid marketing intern...
iamthetot@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 207d
Holy hell that is embarrassing.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 3 pts · 206d
watch it require being online for singleplayer just like Hitman 3
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 207d
Note that many game studios prioritize consoles first and whatever room there is to turn up or down the settings is what makes it to the pc version. When benchmarking level performance targets they're going to use console hardware. They're selling it for the Xbox series S, so that's probably going to be what the devs are considering as the lower end of a decent experience. So that means that an a580, rx 6600, or 2060 super will be more than good enough. The series S only has 10 gb of shared cpu-gpu ram, so it will have to run on fairly limited ram as well.