Native Chicagoan here. Something that always gets glossed over is understanding that there's two types of deep dish pizza: stuffed (what you see here) and pan.
Stuffed pizza (from bottom to top) is dough, cheese (plus vegetables or meat or whatever else you wanna "stuff" it with), another layer of dough, then the sauce on top.
Giordano's or Gino's East is most closely associated with stuffed, even though it's often only referred to as "deep dish."
Pan pizza is almost the same in shape/dimensions, but instead of it being stuffed with cheese/vegetables/meat, that part is just bread.
Lou Malnati's is most closely associated with pan pizza, even though it's often only referred to as "deep dish."
The differences are incredibly important, and anyone who's tried both can concur.
Anyways, they both have cheese so idk what this dude talking about lol
Thank you! I like Chicago-style stuffed, but no one on the West Coast knows what it is. Hell, most people anywhere don't know what it is.
For those who have never had it: imagine a two-layer lasagna but the noodles are replaced with a flaky, buttery, yeast-leavened bread. It can be great, but it can also be a big pile of garbage if it's not done right, worse than regular bad pizza.
Pan pizza is almost the same in shape/dimensions, but instead of it being stuffed with cheese/vegetables/meat, that part is just bread.
This makes it sound like pan pizza is dough stuffed with bread, but I'm guessing that's not what you meant to imply? Regardless, I've only had Pequod's and I don't know which kind it was, but I know it was fucking delicious.
Nah it's not stuffed with bread, it's just bread up until you get to the cheese and sauce up top.
And yeah, Pequods is always poppin. Lotta Chicago transplants go for their deep dish, but their thin is better imo. It depends on how you feel about crust, too. Some people really like their crust.
One is basically meat pie without a crust top. The other is just a thick ass piece of bread, often something tasty all its own like sourdough, with pizza toppings on top (think more like putting cheese on bread sticks and calling it pizza). For some reason they are both called deep dish but one is all filling with a thin crust and the other is all bread topped with a pizza.
Rahm Emanuel and Jon Stewart hurt the reputation of the humble Chicago Deep Dish pizza due to some crass comment about skyscrapers. It's a fantastic pie slathered in tomato sauce with a dough base mixed with corn meal giving it a slight crunch and subtle boost to its flavor. I get not everyone likes the unconventional approach to this dish but in my humble opinion it's well worth having once in a while, especially with a pint of beer. I only wish it were a little more common because damn not even LA has more than 3 or 4 joints that offer it and they're all a pain to get to. Just give the pizza a chance people, it's tasty and filling especially if you like your pie saucy.
I'm a relatively recent transplant to Chigacoland so I feel a bit of an instinctive need to defend deep dish. But really, its more of a love for all forms of pizza.
New York style? Hell yes
Chicago style? Two slices and long nap, but still hell yes
Detroit style, tavern style, California style, thin crust, thick crust, stuffed crust? Yes yes yes yes yes and yes!
I'm a native Chicagoan and I just wish people would stop thinking of it is "Chicago style" pizza lol
There's only a handful of restaurants that make it and it's not even their best seller, the way more common "Chicago style" pizza is basically just square cut tavern style.
Deep dish is pretty good but I feel like it's its own category. IMO it's a bad choice for most of the situations you'd order pizza. It's extremely filling so it makes you tired. You have to eat it fast because it's only good hot (and it cools down quick). The slices are heavy so it's harder to eat without making a mess.
Like if I want deep dish, I want deep dish. But if I want pizza, I'm not even considering deep dish, you know? It's like noodle pasta vs lasagna
Ah man, I miss Aurelio's. They used to have a few locations in the Minneapolis/St Paul area, but the last one closed a little while ago. Their pizzas were great, but the spinach calabrese was the best.
There's two types of square cut, and one is fantastic while the other should be punishable by a week in the stockade.
The good way, is starting with a square or rectangle to begin with, and then slicing once down the middle long way, once down the middle short way, and then one down the middle-left and middle-right, for a total of 8 rectangular/square slices. Then you have the corners with more crust, but at least every slice has some crust and some size to it. Most tavern style places will do this one.
The abomination, is to start with a circle, cut a cross into it, and then divvy it up from there like graph paper. The middles get square but with no crust and about the size of a cracker. The edges get at least 4 points that are just crust with about 1cm worth of pizza, and it doesn't get better from there. There's literally 4-8 squares on that whole thing that have enough crust to pizza ratio and they're still the size of a cracker. "It's better for sharing" no it isn't, pizza is already perfect for sharing you just didn't want to order enough. Dominos does their thin crust this way by default (and they fuck up because of muscle memory if you ask for it pie cut like a smart person.)
My one and only encounter with chicago pizza was enough to convince me I hated it. Doesn't mean it's bad though, just definitely not for me. I think it would be better called a casserole than a pizza.
It does get heated up when they put the whole thing in the oven you know. Not disputing your dislike of Chicago style deep dish pizza, love what you love and hate what you hate it's all good. But I don't want anybody to be confused about how hot or cold these pizzas are when you receive them.
Yeah the sauce is put on top to prevent the maillard reaction. In every sense of the word a deep dish is not a typical pizza. But it is still a pizza.
The same can be said for Detroit style pizza. If one wanted to make the same kind of disparagement that people do of deep dish, I could say that Detroit style isn't pizza it's actually cake.
I feel like it’s important to me to learn whether the sauce is actually good. I’m terrified that it’s bland. It looks bland. I cannot see any spices or herbs. This is stressing me out more than it should.
This finally made me look for the original, deleted, frustratingly unarchived post. But there are higher resolution pics, and they show herbs n’ ground beef. At least a passable amount of both.
It's amazing how pizza was perfected somewhere between 100 and 200 years ago and then every city in America has decided they need to make it worse in innovative and unique ways.
By the gods it's the fucking train of food. Here's perfection now make it more expensive, harder to build, and somehow worse. Quick get Adam Something to make a video on this.
Even if they were born in Italy they are still American, but they are Italian immigrants. Ric Riccardo was a first generation Italian immigrant. Modern Chicago deep dish is likely a modified version of what he served in his pizzeria, but he did still invent it.
Pizza is actually at least 1000 years old. The thing that identifies it as pizza is the bread not the toppings. And it has actually gotten way better with time.
In the sense that people have been putting stuff on top of flat bread, sure. But that's why I say it was perfected a hundred years or so ago. Because sure you could argue a flatbread with a a herb and cheese spread and some dates is pizza, but it doesn't hold a candle to a modern pizza.
Chicago Style is utter garbage "pizza". If I wanted a mess drenched in pasta and sauce, I'd get a lasagna. I once ordered a deep dish pizza at a bar, and like a civillized sensible human, I assumed it would be that crispy-crusted glory that is Detroit Style deep dish pizza. Not so, it was the vomit-inducing deep Chicago, which looks and tastes the exact same going in as it does coming out.
Detroit >> Chicago, it's not even close. I will fight and die on that hill, as you can actually make a hill out of Detroit style slices! You can only make shitty Agincourt mud out of Chicago-style slop.
I like thin crust with provel but I usually only have it at bowling alleys, bars, and other high class establishments. Imos is overpriced and can be meh nowadays. At the end of the day it is just local chain pizza.
Most of the actual pizza joints in St Louis have New York style hand tossed crust with mozzarella (and good beer.)
Can you pleas stop calling it a pizza‽ I'm sure it's tasty and all but it's not a pizza. Words have a meaning, or what's next? We gonna call this a cheeseburger?
Words do change meaning but in this instance they shouldn't. Pizza is actively being used for it's original meaning. Chicago deep dish pizza and the fact locust haven't ravaged the city to destruction is proof that there is no god. There is no reason to expand the definition to include that cold disappointing pastaless casserole.
No, I don't know some random pizza from a random hotel in a random town on the other end of the world. But looking at the pictures, I'd say that, albeit not looking very appetizing, it definitely looks much more pizza-like than that Chicago style cheesecake.
But if you ever come to visit, I can recommend a lovely little Italian osteria in the original Altona where you can get great authentic Italian pizza.
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xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 62 pts · 208d
Under. The. Sauce.
Look, I try to be a forgiving person, but...
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 207d
Putting too much sauce on the bottom causes the crust to be soft and undercooked. So if you like a bit more sauce you can put it on top instead.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 207d
its essentially just a sauce cheese pie.
Godort@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 208d
There is cheese, but when I want pizza, I don't want a salami casserole
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 12 pts · 208d
Wearing its sauce on the outside like some kind of whore.
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 5 pts · 208d
A whore who hates browned cheese.
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 208d
Native Chicagoan here. Something that always gets glossed over is understanding that there's two types of deep dish pizza: stuffed (what you see here) and pan.
Stuffed pizza (from bottom to top) is dough, cheese (plus vegetables or meat or whatever else you wanna "stuff" it with), another layer of dough, then the sauce on top.
Giordano's or Gino's East is most closely associated with stuffed, even though it's often only referred to as "deep dish."
Pan pizza is almost the same in shape/dimensions, but instead of it being stuffed with cheese/vegetables/meat, that part is just bread.
Lou Malnati's is most closely associated with pan pizza, even though it's often only referred to as "deep dish."
The differences are incredibly important, and anyone who's tried both can concur.
Anyways, they both have cheese so idk what this dude talking about lol
Thanks for comin to my TED Talk.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 208d
Thank you! I like Chicago-style stuffed, but no one on the West Coast knows what it is. Hell, most people anywhere don't know what it is.
For those who have never had it: imagine a two-layer lasagna but the noodles are replaced with a flaky, buttery, yeast-leavened bread. It can be great, but it can also be a big pile of garbage if it's not done right, worse than regular bad pizza.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 208d
…so a calzona and focaccia?
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 207d
No, it's a pizza, and if it weren't it would be either of those things either.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 207d
It's a sandwich.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 208d
This makes it sound like pan pizza is dough stuffed with bread, but I'm guessing that's not what you meant to imply? Regardless, I've only had Pequod's and I don't know which kind it was, but I know it was fucking delicious.
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 208d
Nah it's not stuffed with bread, it's just bread up until you get to the cheese and sauce up top.
And yeah, Pequods is always poppin. Lotta Chicago transplants go for their deep dish, but their thin is better imo. It depends on how you feel about crust, too. Some people really like their crust.
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 207d
One is basically meat pie without a crust top. The other is just a thick ass piece of bread, often something tasty all its own like sourdough, with pizza toppings on top (think more like putting cheese on bread sticks and calling it pizza). For some reason they are both called deep dish but one is all filling with a thin crust and the other is all bread topped with a pizza.
Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 207d
Yes, Lou's over Giordano's for that reason. I don't care for marinara sauce, but the extra dough and cheese is great.
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 208d
hydrashok@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 208d
Ha, was exactly the first thing I thought of too.
New York Slice forever, baby! Although Detroit style is quite good also.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 2 pts · 208d
New York pizza is just above mid. Always has been, always will be. You're just the loudest about it.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 208d
Margherita ftw. So simple and delicious
wieson@feddit.org · 1 pts · 207d
Yes! Someone in this thread who knows actual names of real pizze.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 208d
Rahm Emanuel and Jon Stewart hurt the reputation of the humble Chicago Deep Dish pizza due to some crass comment about skyscrapers. It's a fantastic pie slathered in tomato sauce with a dough base mixed with corn meal giving it a slight crunch and subtle boost to its flavor. I get not everyone likes the unconventional approach to this dish but in my humble opinion it's well worth having once in a while, especially with a pint of beer. I only wish it were a little more common because damn not even LA has more than 3 or 4 joints that offer it and they're all a pain to get to. Just give the pizza a chance people, it's tasty and filling especially if you like your pie saucy.
dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 208d
Real deep dish pizza is my favorite type of pizza!
sukhmel@programming.dev · 4 pts · 207d
Well, now I want to try it much more
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 207d
Don't let the haters discourage you. It's worth it.
dmention7@midwest.social · 29 pts · 208d
I'm a relatively recent transplant to Chigacoland so I feel a bit of an instinctive need to defend deep dish. But really, its more of a love for all forms of pizza.
New York style? Hell yes Chicago style? Two slices and long nap, but still hell yes Detroit style, tavern style, California style, thin crust, thick crust, stuffed crust? Yes yes yes yes yes and yes!
glimse@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 208d
I'm a native Chicagoan and I just wish people would stop thinking of it is "Chicago style" pizza lol
There's only a handful of restaurants that make it and it's not even their best seller, the way more common "Chicago style" pizza is basically just square cut tavern style.
Deep dish is pretty good but I feel like it's its own category. IMO it's a bad choice for most of the situations you'd order pizza. It's extremely filling so it makes you tired. You have to eat it fast because it's only good hot (and it cools down quick). The slices are heavy so it's harder to eat without making a mess.
Like if I want deep dish, I want deep dish. But if I want pizza, I'm not even considering deep dish, you know? It's like noodle pasta vs lasagna
zelifcam@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 208d
glimse@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 208d
Yeah, we just don't have a "signature" pizza in the same way Detroit does.
Italian beef feels like such an accidental secret. It's so good but nobody talks about it outside of Chicago
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 3 pts · 208d
Ah man, I miss Aurelio's. They used to have a few locations in the Minneapolis/St Paul area, but the last one closed a little while ago. Their pizzas were great, but the spinach calabrese was the best.
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 208d
I actually just talked to a friend about this last night. He moved to Missouri and he hates all of the pizza there.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 208d
yes. and their pies were cheap, we lived on this in the 80s.
OpenStars@piefed.social · 3 pts · 208d
Deep dish is delish, it's simply... not pizza.
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 2 pts · 208d
Tbf square cut is also a travesty. It is the norm where I live, but I have a great Neapolitan joint that knows how to cut triangles.
glimse@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 208d
Incorrect, square cut is great. Definitely my preferred cutting method
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 2 pts · 208d
Triangles have a natural handle so your fingers don’t get greasy. Squares are smaller and easier to overeat. “Just one more square.”
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 207d
There's two types of square cut, and one is fantastic while the other should be punishable by a week in the stockade.
The good way, is starting with a square or rectangle to begin with, and then slicing once down the middle long way, once down the middle short way, and then one down the middle-left and middle-right, for a total of 8 rectangular/square slices. Then you have the corners with more crust, but at least every slice has some crust and some size to it. Most tavern style places will do this one.
The abomination, is to start with a circle, cut a cross into it, and then divvy it up from there like graph paper. The middles get square but with no crust and about the size of a cracker. The edges get at least 4 points that are just crust with about 1cm worth of pizza, and it doesn't get better from there. There's literally 4-8 squares on that whole thing that have enough crust to pizza ratio and they're still the size of a cracker. "It's better for sharing" no it isn't, pizza is already perfect for sharing you just didn't want to order enough. Dominos does their thin crust this way by default (and they fuck up because of muscle memory if you ask for it pie cut like a smart person.)
Echolynx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 207d
Your fingers definitely do get greasy, lol.
Greddan@feddit.org · 2 pts · 207d
dmention7@midwest.social · 2 pts · 207d
As long as I can get kerf delivered my door in a square cardboard box when I'm too high to drive, I'm here for it.
wieson@feddit.org · 1 pts · 207d
Napoli?
dmention7@midwest.social · 2 pts · 207d
Did I stutter?
Yes!!
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 21 pts · 208d
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 15 pts · 208d
I’d love to know wtf they thought that was
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 208d
I mean, to be honest they probably knew it was cheese and were just being silly.
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 5 pts · 208d
That makes me want to ask why the crust is so stretchy!
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 4 pts · 208d
Chicago!
stom@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 206d
PVA glue
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 208d
Glue?
unknown@piefed.social · 6 pts · 207d
Yep. That's how you get the sauce to stick to the pizza base.
spiderhamster@midwest.social · 1 pts · 208d
That's what I use to keep my socks from falling down to my ankles.
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 208d
Was this an ad? Then yes. Is it a crappy phone picture ad? Then maybe. Is this a crappy phone picture of someone's measly deep dish? Then no.
pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 208d
My one and only encounter with chicago pizza was enough to convince me I hated it. Doesn't mean it's bad though, just definitely not for me. I think it would be better called a casserole than a pizza.
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 208d
It's a no pasta lasagna.
MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 208d
This hurts me as an italian
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 1 pts · 208d
True Italians know that tomatoes don't belong on a pizza.
ech@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 208d
Oh no! Are people enjoying a food you don't approve of? That sucks for you.
MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 208d
I am referencing the meme that this tweet is referencing.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 14 pts · 208d
The nature of deep dish pizza aside, doesn't cheeseless pizza predate the kind with cheese anyway?
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 208d
Yeah, but New Yorkers believe they invented Pizza. Not joking, some very seriously believe that.
Aeri@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 207d
I don't care if it's under the sauce I still think deep dish pizza is stupid
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 207d
I don't have a problem with deep dish pizza; just Chicago style deep dish pizza. Not only is the sauce on top, it's marinara sauce and is added cold.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 207d
It does get heated up when they put the whole thing in the oven you know. Not disputing your dislike of Chicago style deep dish pizza, love what you love and hate what you hate it's all good. But I don't want anybody to be confused about how hot or cold these pizzas are when you receive them.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · -2 pts · 207d
The sauce goes on after it comes out of the oven, every time I've seen a recipe for it.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 207d
those recipes are by people who don't know fuck all about chicago pizza, ignore them
ikidd@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 207d
Wouldn't putting sauce on before putting in the oven prevent the cheese from doing a maillard? That's half the draw of pizza to me, is browned cheese.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 207d
most chicago deep dish i've had is in layers for this very reason:
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 206d
Yeah the sauce is put on top to prevent the maillard reaction. In every sense of the word a deep dish is not a typical pizza. But it is still a pizza.
The same can be said for Detroit style pizza. If one wanted to make the same kind of disparagement that people do of deep dish, I could say that Detroit style isn't pizza it's actually cake.
verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 12 pts · 207d
Damage@feddit.it · 10 pts · 207d
It's a pie
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 207d
Yes, a pizza pie.
Damage@feddit.it · 3 pts · 207d
A torta salata, a pie
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 207d
Chicago "pizza" is more of a casserole in a sort of bread bowl really.
I mean that's fine I'm not saying it's bad but I am saying it isn't "pizza."
KuroiKaze@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 208d
Easily the best pizza I've had in my world travels and by far the cheesiest. A masterful one is a sublime experience.
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 208d
"It's under the sauce"
https://youtube.com/shorts/o6XCp0PwyEc
adhocfungus@midwest.social · 2 pts · 208d
I was gonna post it if nobody else did.
degen@midwest.social · 2 pts · 208d
Yeeeaaaahhh, I'm gonna need this to be the top comment
Mushroom team assemble!
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 207d
I feel like it’s important to me to learn whether the sauce is actually good. I’m terrified that it’s bland. It looks bland. I cannot see any spices or herbs. This is stressing me out more than it should.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 207d
They are under the plate.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 207d
depends on where you go, good places will have a well seasoned marinara. you can also usually see the herbs and spices they've used
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 207d
This finally made me look for the original, deleted, frustratingly unarchived post. But there are higher resolution pics, and they show herbs n’ ground beef. At least a passable amount of both.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 207d
It's a fairly spicy marinara.
gmtom@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 208d
It's amazing how pizza was perfected somewhere between 100 and 200 years ago and then every city in America has decided they need to make it worse in innovative and unique ways.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 207d
By the gods it's the fucking train of food. Here's perfection now make it more expensive, harder to build, and somehow worse. Quick get Adam Something to make a video on this.
stabby_cicada@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 207d
gmtom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 207d
I mean I agree with you, but it's funnier if talk as if other forms of pizza are an afront to god.
ebolapie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 206d
Italian immigrants came up with most of those different styles of pizza. You can hate them, but the people who invented them were Italian.
gmtom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 206d
If they are born in America they are American.
ebolapie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 205d
Even if they were born in Italy they are still American, but they are Italian immigrants. Ric Riccardo was a first generation Italian immigrant. Modern Chicago deep dish is likely a modified version of what he served in his pizzeria, but he did still invent it.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 207d
Pizza is actually at least 1000 years old. The thing that identifies it as pizza is the bread not the toppings. And it has actually gotten way better with time.
https://youtu.be/h6XvMKdD2tY
gmtom@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 207d
In the sense that people have been putting stuff on top of flat bread, sure. But that's why I say it was perfected a hundred years or so ago. Because sure you could argue a flatbread with a a herb and cheese spread and some dates is pizza, but it doesn't hold a candle to a modern pizza.
Godric@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 208d
Chicago Style is utter garbage "pizza". If I wanted a mess drenched in pasta and sauce, I'd get a lasagna. I once ordered a deep dish pizza at a bar, and like a civillized sensible human, I assumed it would be that crispy-crusted glory that is Detroit Style deep dish pizza. Not so, it was the vomit-inducing deep Chicago, which looks and tastes the exact same going in as it does coming out.
Detroit >> Chicago, it's not even close. I will fight and die on that hill, as you can actually make a hill out of Detroit style slices! You can only make shitty Agincourt mud out of Chicago-style slop.
Westcoastdg@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 208d
Until you said Detroit I was going to accuse you of being Jon Stewart's posting account ;) very entertaining post, I salute you
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 207d
Wow, then you are going to absolutely hate Mexican food with a passion.
Godric@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 207d
Ar the end of the day, we're all blood, meat, and bones, but giraffes and humans are different nonetheless. Order matters!
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 207d
Does it have bread, cheese, and sauce? Then I'm going to love eating it, don't really care what you call it
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 207d
you mean italian food?
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 207d
Alright. One layer matzah, one thick layer casu marzu, one layer vegemite. Would you eat the bread, cheese, and sauce?
Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 207d
It's cold sauce on top.
Today@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 208d
I would eat one thousand slabs of Chicago pizza to avoid one bite of St. Louis pizza. WTF is up with that 'cheese'?
normalentrance@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 208d
I like thin crust with provel but I usually only have it at bowling alleys, bars, and other high class establishments. Imos is overpriced and can be meh nowadays. At the end of the day it is just local chain pizza.
Most of the actual pizza joints in St Louis have New York style hand tossed crust with mozzarella (and good beer.)
starik@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 208d
Too much cheese and too much sauce. Too messy with the sauce on the outside. There’s a reason normal pizza is more popular.
tomenzgg@midwest.social · 3 pts · 208d
As a Midwesterner, no such thing.
metawolfgxd@piefed.social · 7 pts · 207d
I like my pizza like I like my coffee, with no cheese.
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 208d
...I'm fine with just garlic bread, really.
ProstheticBrain@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 208d
That's not a cheese pull, it's a cheese fight.
I'm sorry Chicago but even looking at that has made me lactose intolerant.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 208d
I am not huge fan of that style.
ProstheticBrain@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 208d
It definitely puts the pie in pizza pie
pigup@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 208d
It's under the sauce
BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 208d
Lasagna
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 207d
Did you forget?
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
Heathens and class traitors every last one of them, I would say burn them at the stake but they would probably enjoy it.
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 207d
Can you pleas stop calling it a pizza‽ I'm sure it's tasty and all but it's not a pizza. Words have a meaning, or what's next? We gonna call this a cheeseburger?
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 207d
words also change meaning, and we changed the shit out of that particular word. Come at us, chitown is always down for a food battle
Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 207d
Words do change meaning but in this instance they shouldn't. Pizza is actively being used for it's original meaning. Chicago deep dish pizza and the fact locust haven't ravaged the city to destruction is proof that there is no god. There is no reason to expand the definition to include that cold disappointing pastaless casserole.
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 207d
It's tough being at the top, but you get used to it, take that boston
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 207d
Nah thanks. I'll just stay here and enjoy my cheese burger.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 207d
wtf are those gummy worm looking things on the roast beef?
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 207d
It's jelly, made of stock and the juices arising while roasting the meat. Kind of like a savoury jello.
ebolapie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 207d
what is not pizza about it
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 207d
Counter question: What's pizza about it?
TwentySeven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 207d
You must not know about Altoona pizza.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altoona-style_pizza
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 207d
No, I don't know some random pizza from a random hotel in a random town on the other end of the world. But looking at the pictures, I'd say that, albeit not looking very appetizing, it definitely looks much more pizza-like than that Chicago style cheesecake.
But if you ever come to visit, I can recommend a lovely little Italian osteria in the original Altona where you can get great authentic Italian pizza.
4am@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 208d
Rhode Island has entered the chat.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 208d
Why?
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 208d
I had to search for it, but apparently Rhode Island style pizza is a thing.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 207d
NJ has tomato pies too (as well as the best pizza on the planet)
cokeslutgarbage@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 208d
Connecticut is the best tho
4am@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 207d
Boston drivers are agressive.
Rhode Island drivers are ignorant.
Connecticut drivers are fucking selfish.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 208d
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 208d
Do you think the people of Chicago made a tragic linguistic mistake and fucked their cuisine instead?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 208d
what do you mean?