How do you know that? Since we're both making assumptions. It's extremely well done writing, it's almost 100% perfect. When students come and show stuff like that and ask if they're good enough, they're fishing for compliments. It's playing coy. Just say, hey, look at my pretty handwriting, instead of pretending to be oblivious.
How do you know? You interact with human beings over a lifetime. How do you know when someone is being sarcastic, or giving an underhanded compliment, or being suspicious, or flirting? You just do, because you're human, and you are among humans. If you don't, you're just inexperienced, young, or oblivious. You can't just take everything people tell you at face value and run with it, that's how you get duped and fucked in the ass.
It's pretty good, easier to read than most native speakers I'd say.
If I had to give a critique, I'd say the letters are rather round, so it can be hard to tell an 'a' from an 'o', but most people develop quirks like that in English so it's perfectly fine.
The slant in print writing I think stems from how curisve is (was?) taught in U.S elementary schools. I recall getting the very distinct advice to tilt my paper 45° for cursive writing and it ended up becoming a habit that carried over into my print writing.
Looks good, just need to work on a few minor things:
All of the ascenders and descenders (lines that extend above and below) need to be longer, especially on the f, d and the p. Also make sure the line on the right side of the a is clear and noticeable, it looks a lot like an o because you can hardly see that line. Overall the round parts of letters like a, d, g, p, etc are a little too wide/fat, so that combined with the vertical line parts being too short makes them look too similar to an o.
That may sound like a lot of criticism, but overall it does look very good. It just takes a lot of words to try and describe these small issues.
Super neat, extremely readable. On a few you can tell you've taken a long time forming the letters, so probably just need to practice until you can write at a useful speed, while keeping it as neat.
you have very legible and clean handwriting, but your proportions reduce legibility. all the letters do not have to be uniformly the same height, many need to be taller or shorter than others. if you look at the early writing books for children learning english you'll see that instead of there beibg one "tier" for the letters to sit on, there are actually two. Capital letters are twice as tall as most lowercase letters and the majority of a lowercase letter is still in the lower tier, but ascenders and descenders should be full height which helps make it a lot more distinct.
There is very little to criticize here. You've done a good job!
However, it looks like this might have been done very slowly and carefully, so I think you will benefit from practicing writing faster now. You have the shapes, now get the speed!
Very neat, though it looks like you're afraid of ascenders and decenders. your f's look cut off at the top, your h's looks a little like n's, etc. Looks like you're trying to stick to a rule from a different alphabet that everything is the same height; the Latin alphabet doesn't work like that, or at least, it doesn't in lowercase.
I recommend exagerating the straight line on the lower case 'a' a bit more to distinguish it from 'o'. In context of the words you wrote it's easy to see when an 'a' is 'a' and 'o' is 'o', but words like 'sang' may look like either 'sang' or 'song'.
For the lower case 'd' i recommend extending the straight line a tad bit higher. It still looks distinctly like a 'd', but it's very, very, close to looking like a lower case 'a'.
Similar recommendation for the lower case 'p', extend the straight line just a tad bit more below the letter.
I think another comment recommended something similar for lower case 'h', but i actually think the way you write them is just fine.
However, overall, it looks a hell of a lot cleaner than what most native english speakers write. It's for sure cleaner than mine, but i use a mix of different letter styles.
Thanks, but dont give me too much credit. My handwriting is more towards the sloppy side than proper, haha. Im frequently asked "what does this say" when others try to read my hand written notes.
In all honestly, if you arent getting that question from other people often, or at all, ("what does this say?"), then your pendmanship is generally good even if it has little quirks like a slightly more rounded 'a' or short stemmed 'd'.
I'd say the p's and a's need a bit more definition, but it's better than mine for sure. The x looks a little off, but definitely legible. Pretty good, 8.5/10.
I taught 3rd grade in the US, where kids are expected to have their printing correct and start to learn cursive. I'd say your writing is very neat and readable. It has some differences that most US adults develop when they've gotten used to cursive and then need to use printing. So nobody is going to have any trouble with reading this.
For instance, when little kids print, or US teachers teach it, the straight line on their e is horizontal. The stems on their a and m are straight and well-defined. Their v has a sharp point. Their f is tall, with a strong top hook and nothing below the sitting line. Their y and x made from two straight diagonal lines. And there's no slant. But after writing in cursive for awhile, many adults form their printing similarly to you.
The only thing I'd suggest you change is to make the top part of the f stronger and more hooked. That's the one letter that might cause confusion, even though your t has a tail to differentiate it. Your assignment doesn't include a q, but I suggest you be sure to curve or point its tail below the line in the opposite direction from the tail on your g.
In my country English alphabets are practiced in four lines rather that two lines. This helps you to get the highs and lows of certain letters like h, p, t, g, y. You definitely don't want the reader to confuse your n and h. It's still a neat looking handwriting tho.
Beautiful penmanship. My only comment is that your ascenders and descenders are too short. They should be just as tall as the base letter (that is: a "t" or "f" or "g" should be twice as tall as an "a" or "o". You can get lined paper with 4 lines instead of 2 lines if you find that easier to practice.
This is your actual handwriting? Far better than mine, and english is my native language, and I’m not from the USA so they taught us to read and write in school.
I am not a native english speaker, but my native langauge uses the latin alphabet. Your writing is really good especially when compared to for instance mine, when people see it they compare it with writing with a chicken's foot. At first glance I mistaked it for a font.
Exceptional. Better than most native writers. Only suggestion is that the ascenders and descenders (the bits that go above and below the lines in letters like l, p, b, d etc.) should be larger, aim for roughly 2/3 taller than a letter like x or o. f, and t ascend slightly less, about 1/3 taller than an x or o.
I'm not a native English speaker. But a native user of the latin alphabet.
Your handwriting is unusually neat. However if you want people to be nitpicky, that first "collection" looks a bit like "cotlection". And traditionally, the lines that go above or below the lines are 1/2 to 1 times as high as the distance between the lines
Perfectly legible.
Personally I like to exaggerate the lines going up or down like the line going down in "q" and thi hook in the "g" a bit more.
But I would not have noticed that you're not a native writer if I hadn't been told.
Decently readable, though some of the letter forms you've chosen could be confused for others ('a' is quite similar to 'o', 'f' could be confused for 't'). When I'm lettering for engineering/math I use engineering gothic letterforms which avoid these ambiguities, among others (I vs l vs ι vs 1 vs 7, a vs α vs o vs ο, O vs 0, q vs g, k vs κ, v vs ν, u vs μ, B vs 8). When I'm handwriting I just write chickenscratch unreadable to anyone else including my future self after a year or so.
Excellent! Lots of other people in thread have made minor corrections (that are mostly accurate) but you have a far more important thing - STYLE! Your penmanship has a great style made in part by those little differences! Don't change it so much you lose that
I genuinely thought that was digital. It's amazingly consistent, and extremely legible and readable. Good job!
But because I thought it was digital for a second (and I just woke up), I didn't realize it was a handwriting exercise, and was trying to figure out what this poem could possibly mean for a minute. Lmao
I genuinely thought that was digital. It's amazingly consistent, and extremely legible and readable. Good job!
But because I thought it was digital for a second (and I just woke up), I didn't realize it was a handwriting exercise, and was trying to figure out what this poem could possibly mean for a minute. Lmao
My analysis on that is, despite the legibility being something odd, I can tell you put in the effort to spell the words you're using correctly. I can't even blame you for wanting to do something like that.
I take it you want some challenging words sometime soon?
83 Comments
remon@ani.social · 50 pts · 239d
d, h, l, f and t could all be a bit taller. Same for the line downwards from p.
fartsparkles@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 239d
ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth · 50 pts · 239d
box for f is wrong in second image. f always has an ascender and sometimes has a descender but is drawn with just a descender box
fartsparkles@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 238d
Good spot. And I love lowercase 𝑓 with ascender and descender.
𝑓𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑠
tomiant@piefed.social · -9 pts · 238d
They wanted praise and oohs and aahs, not actual critique, though.
incompetent@programming.dev · 5 pts · 237d
How do you know that? If we're talking about assumptions, I assumed they wanted to know how to improve.
tomiant@piefed.social · -3 pts · 237d
How do you know that? Since we're both making assumptions. It's extremely well done writing, it's almost 100% perfect. When students come and show stuff like that and ask if they're good enough, they're fishing for compliments. It's playing coy. Just say, hey, look at my pretty handwriting, instead of pretending to be oblivious.
How do you know? You interact with human beings over a lifetime. How do you know when someone is being sarcastic, or giving an underhanded compliment, or being suspicious, or flirting? You just do, because you're human, and you are among humans. If you don't, you're just inexperienced, young, or oblivious. You can't just take everything people tell you at face value and run with it, that's how you get duped and fucked in the ass.
SethranKada@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 239d
It's pretty good, easier to read than most native speakers I'd say.
If I had to give a critique, I'd say the letters are rather round, so it can be hard to tell an 'a' from an 'o', but most people develop quirks like that in English so it's perfectly fine.
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 239d
The tail of your 'a' could use a bit more definition
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network · 5 pts · 239d
Yeah I thought "campus" said "compus"
NachBarcelona@piefed.social · 5 pts · 238d
I bought 1 computer, but my friend bought 2 compus.
chocrates@piefed.world · 24 pts · 239d
Firstly, your penmanship is great, better than mine as a native tech worker.
For some actual feedback, your letter sizes for the same letters are a bit inconsistent. That just takes practice.
You are writing at a bit of a slant. That is not wrong but not that common, at least in the states.
You are trying to stay within the lines and that is causing you to change the shape of the letters if they are too large.
Your f's could use a bit more curve. They look a little close to a t.
But seriously it looks great.
Sprinks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 238d
The slant in print writing I think stems from how curisve is (was?) taught in U.S elementary schools. I recall getting the very distinct advice to tilt my paper 45° for cursive writing and it ended up becoming a habit that carried over into my print writing.
chocrates@piefed.world · 4 pts · 238d
Definitely I was taught to do it for cursive. My school system abandoned cursive after we learned it so I never got in that habit I guess
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 238d
this handwriting is too good it's going to piss someone off
WindyRebel@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 238d
I’m already triggered that mine isn’t that nice!
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 239d
是很漂亮！It looks like a font. Extremely neat. Though, the "tails" on some of your letters are so short that they might be mistaken for other letters.
Like your P could be mistaken for a D
NachBarcelona@piefed.social · 13 pts · 239d
Very sweet penmanship!
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 239d
My own penmanship would give their penmanship tetanus if they fought.
leadore@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 238d
Looks good, just need to work on a few minor things:
All of the ascenders and descenders (lines that extend above and below) need to be longer, especially on the f, d and the p. Also make sure the line on the right side of the a is clear and noticeable, it looks a lot like an o because you can hardly see that line. Overall the round parts of letters like a, d, g, p, etc are a little too wide/fat, so that combined with the vertical line parts being too short makes them look too similar to an o.
That may sound like a lot of criticism, but overall it does look very good. It just takes a lot of words to try and describe these small issues.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 239d
It doesn't really look like handwriting, it's like you're copying/designing a digital font 🤔
Meaning it's really nicely done!
then_three_more@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 238d
Super neat, extremely readable. On a few you can tell you've taken a long time forming the letters, so probably just need to practice until you can write at a useful speed, while keeping it as neat.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 238d
Yeah most native writers are not going to write this nicely. We write faster and more sloppily.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 238d
People write to put information and thoughts on paper, not to do art. If you are doing art, then you'd go nice and slow I suppose
then_three_more@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 238d
Tbh unless I try to be careful it's hot and miss is I'll be able to read it later
tenacious_mucus@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 239d
I thought your ‘f’s were ‘t’s until i saw your ‘t’s. The tops of ‘d’ and ‘b’ could be longer to look less like ‘o’. Otherwise, very sharp!
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 238d
Better than mine lol
Really, all you need to do is make sure you're fully closing the circular parts of the letters. Maybe make the tail on your "a" longer.
erev@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 237d
you have very legible and clean handwriting, but your proportions reduce legibility. all the letters do not have to be uniformly the same height, many need to be taller or shorter than others. if you look at the early writing books for children learning english you'll see that instead of there beibg one "tier" for the letters to sit on, there are actually two. Capital letters are twice as tall as most lowercase letters and the majority of a lowercase letter is still in the lower tier, but ascenders and descenders should be full height which helps make it a lot more distinct.
MasterNerd@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 238d
Much better than my own handwriting. The only real feedback I have is to continue the curve on the top of the lowercase f a little longer
mrmacduggan@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 239d
There is very little to criticize here. You've done a good job!
However, it looks like this might have been done very slowly and carefully, so I think you will benefit from practicing writing faster now. You have the shapes, now get the speed!
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 237d
Very neat, though it looks like you're afraid of ascenders and decenders. your f's look cut off at the top, your h's looks a little like n's, etc. Looks like you're trying to stick to a rule from a different alphabet that everything is the same height; the Latin alphabet doesn't work like that, or at least, it doesn't in lowercase.
Soulg@ani.social · 6 pts · 238d
Far far better than my handwriting has ever been
You want the top of 'f' to curve more, as well as the bottom of 'g'. Very readable
Sprinks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 239d
I think it looks really good.
I recommend exagerating the straight line on the lower case 'a' a bit more to distinguish it from 'o'. In context of the words you wrote it's easy to see when an 'a' is 'a' and 'o' is 'o', but words like 'sang' may look like either 'sang' or 'song'.
For the lower case 'd' i recommend extending the straight line a tad bit higher. It still looks distinctly like a 'd', but it's very, very, close to looking like a lower case 'a'.
Similar recommendation for the lower case 'p', extend the straight line just a tad bit more below the letter.
I think another comment recommended something similar for lower case 'h', but i actually think the way you write them is just fine.
However, overall, it looks a hell of a lot cleaner than what most native english speakers write. It's for sure cleaner than mine, but i use a mix of different letter styles.
chloe@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 239d
wow,it's pretty good
Sprinks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 238d
Thanks, but dont give me too much credit. My handwriting is more towards the sloppy side than proper, haha. Im frequently asked "what does this say" when others try to read my hand written notes.
In all honestly, if you arent getting that question from other people often, or at all, ("what does this say?"), then your pendmanship is generally good even if it has little quirks like a slightly more rounded 'a' or short stemmed 'd'.
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 5 pts · 239d
I'd say the p's and a's need a bit more definition, but it's better than mine for sure. The x looks a little off, but definitely legible. Pretty good, 8.5/10.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 237d
your handwriting is a font. That's amazing.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 238d
I taught 3rd grade in the US, where kids are expected to have their printing correct and start to learn cursive. I'd say your writing is very neat and readable. It has some differences that most US adults develop when they've gotten used to cursive and then need to use printing. So nobody is going to have any trouble with reading this.
For instance, when little kids print, or US teachers teach it, the straight line on their e is horizontal. The stems on their a and m are straight and well-defined. Their v has a sharp point. Their f is tall, with a strong top hook and nothing below the sitting line. Their y and x made from two straight diagonal lines. And there's no slant. But after writing in cursive for awhile, many adults form their printing similarly to you.
The only thing I'd suggest you change is to make the top part of the f stronger and more hooked. That's the one letter that might cause confusion, even though your t has a tail to differentiate it. Your assignment doesn't include a q, but I suggest you be sure to curve or point its tail below the line in the opposite direction from the tail on your g.
All in all, well done.
7uWqKj@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 239d
The English writing is excellent but the Chinese looks sloppy here and there.
xordos@lonestarpiefed.duckdns.org · 4 pts · 239d
你确信你是认真的？The Chinese writings (which is casual speed/style) is also very good.
chloe@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 239d
chloe@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 239d
just a little,because this is my homework
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 3 pts · 239d
I'm pretty sure that's Japanese
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 239d
His Korean looks terrible. I can't read a single word.
TheBat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 239d
karasu_sue@pf.korako.me · 6 pts · 239d
Exactly. Some parts may look readable as Japanese, but this is Chinese.
The way the characters are written is slightly different from Japanese.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 1 pts · 238d
renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 238d
it looks like a computer font, not very human-like. I like your Chinese handwriting though
everythingisanode@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 237d
In my country English alphabets are practiced in four lines rather that two lines. This helps you to get the highs and lows of certain letters like h, p, t, g, y. You definitely don't want the reader to confuse your n and h. It's still a neat looking handwriting tho.
alternategait@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 238d
Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 237d
It's so neat. It's obvious it's not your first language. Beautiful
Maestro@fedia.io · 3 pts · 239d
Beautiful penmanship. My only comment is that your ascenders and descenders are too short. They should be just as tall as the base letter (that is: a "t" or "f" or "g" should be twice as tall as an "a" or "o". You can get lined paper with 4 lines instead of 2 lines if you find that easier to practice.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 237d
This is your actual handwriting? Far better than mine, and english is my native language, and I’m not from the USA so they taught us to read and write in school.
TheWilliamist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 237d
Hey, some of us went to school back in the day when they also taught us to read and write! 😜
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 238d
Better than mine
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 237d
Tbh I genuenly thought it was printed, it looks almost textbook level perfect
C1pher@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 237d
Sexy… I wanna bang your hand.
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 238d
You're not going to become a doctor writing like that!
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 3 pts · 237d
Your handwriting is far better than mine.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 237d
Mine looks like a 4th grader mixed with a doctor.
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 239d
Looks nice. Very readable.
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 238d
I am not a native english speaker, but my native langauge uses the latin alphabet. Your writing is really good especially when compared to for instance mine, when people see it they compare it with writing with a chicken's foot. At first glance I mistaked it for a font.
blattrules@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 238d
The story is not very good, but the penmanship is excellent.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 237d
Yeah...I don't believe you this being handwriting.
(Jk, looks amazing. Almost like a font.)
ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 239d
Exceptional. Better than most native writers. Only suggestion is that the ascenders and descenders (the bits that go above and below the lines in letters like l, p, b, d etc.) should be larger, aim for roughly 2/3 taller than a letter like x or o. f, and t ascend slightly less, about 1/3 taller than an x or o.
pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 239d
Gorgeous!
hateisreality@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 238d
It's a hell of a lot better than mine and I can only write in English
Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 237d
I'm not a native English speaker. But a native user of the latin alphabet.
Your handwriting is unusually neat. However if you want people to be nitpicky, that first "collection" looks a bit like "cotlection". And traditionally, the lines that go above or below the lines are 1/2 to 1 times as high as the distance between the lines
riskable@programming.dev · 2 pts · 239d
Ecksellent
(Work on that X 😁)
Otherwise, waaaaaaaay better than my handwriting. That's for sure 👍
Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 237d
Perfectly legible. Personally I like to exaggerate the lines going up or down like the line going down in "q" and thi hook in the "g" a bit more. But I would not have noticed that you're not a native writer if I hadn't been told.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 238d
Way better then mine
Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 237d
Decently readable, though some of the letter forms you've chosen could be confused for others ('a' is quite similar to 'o', 'f' could be confused for 't'). When I'm lettering for engineering/math I use engineering gothic letterforms which avoid these ambiguities, among others (I vs l vs ι vs 1 vs 7, a vs α vs o vs ο, O vs 0, q vs g, k vs κ, v vs ν, u vs μ, B vs 8). When I'm handwriting I just write chickenscratch unreadable to anyone else including my future self after a year or so.
RagnarokOnline@programming.dev · 2 pts · 239d
Very lovely to look at
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 238d
It is very neat and pretty although the two ideograms for "author" seem different.
CidVicious@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 238d
Little tidy for my tastes. My handwriting is very much chicken scratch.
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 238d
Your handwriting is very legible, well done.
Atlas_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 238d
Excellent! Lots of other people in thread have made minor corrections (that are mostly accurate) but you have a far more important thing - STYLE! Your penmanship has a great style made in part by those little differences! Don't change it so much you lose that
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 237d
Looks good to me.
Typotyper@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 236d
Which ones, the swiggly ones or the ones I van read.
(Both are supposed to be squiggly and unreadable)
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 238d
I genuinely thought that was digital. It's amazingly consistent, and extremely legible and readable. Good job!
But because I thought it was digital for a second (and I just woke up), I didn't realize it was a handwriting exercise, and was trying to figure out what this poem could possibly mean for a minute. Lmao
Steve@startrek.website · 1 pts · 238d
Good enough
notptr@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 237d
很漂亮 Much better than mine. You can see an example of my handwriting in my post history.
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 239d
Flawless
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 238d
I genuinely thought that was digital. It's amazingly consistent, and extremely legible and readable. Good job!
But because I thought it was digital for a second (and I just woke up), I didn't realize it was a handwriting exercise, and was trying to figure out what this poem could possibly mean for a minute. Lmao
msokiovt@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 238d
My analysis on that is, despite the legibility being something odd, I can tell you put in the effort to spell the words you're using correctly. I can't even blame you for wanting to do something like that.
I take it you want some challenging words sometime soon?
Etterra@discuss.online · 0 pts · 239d
I think I'm glad that I don't have to write in Japanese. Also your English is entirely too neat and legible to be able to scrawl quickly.