The American Prospect reported that several Democrats in closely contested districts would be voting for the ICE appropriation. “They’re terrified of being labeled anti–law enforcement,” an unnamed source told the liberal magazine. “They want this to go away so they can talk about the cost of living more. Problem is, it’s not going away.”
Democrats will allow full ICE funding in budget bill
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/01/22/moef-j22.html
84 Comments
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 110 pts · 193d
Fucking useless party. They are complicit.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 33 pts · 192d
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 14 pts · 192d
I’ve been calling’em Blue Nazis for awhile.
Seems their praxis meets their goals just fine.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
A lot of people knew that in the 19th century, just not the americans for some reason
jontree255@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 193d
Democrats are so fucking stupid:
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 192d
they support this, because they still want the hand that feeds them,ie billionaires who also support the gop. also because they can use this as political capital to get elected in the next elections
Maeve@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 192d
And kept De La Cruz and Greens (I know) off the ballots only in swing states.
Jhuskindle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 191d
AMEN
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 191d
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 191d
Transferring the whole ICE budget towards universal healthcare would go a long way towards addressing cost-of-living. The Democrats, however, want to keep suckling the corporate teat.
We need a new party, that isn't Blue nor Red. Its mission: to get rid of the Trump Regime, and to create a voting system that protects our politics from Hapsburgian inbreeding.
Pistcow@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 193d
A vote for Schumer is a vote for Ted Cruz. Progressive or nothing.
AshMan85@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 193d
Never voting for Cuck Schumer again
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
A vote for anyone on this list is the same exact facist vote https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
muxika@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 193d
This is why there's an uptick of unaffiliated Gen Z voters. They don't want the toxicity of Republicans and want to avoid the weakness of the Democrats.
EditsHisComments@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 192d
Been registered as Independent since 2015. I was able to choose my ballots back then so I always voted Democrat. Then I moved, same thing. Democrats may have some party members that represent my ideals - surprisingly a couple of my own State's Representatives - but the party as a whole can fuck off.
I hope the Millenial and Gen Z populace that is politically involved can actually bring unity to the DNC, but I don't have faith when there's 1 party that's an umbrella for ideals and beliefs and 1 party that is wholly unified against non-whites and non-christians
Edit: I remember when I went to Uni, a few people invited me to a couple TPUSA rallies because of some of my hatred towards the DNC. I remember telling them hell no, because Democrats are mostly too conservative for me, so anything TPUSA represents is just vile
PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org · 5 pts · 192d
GenX they are all the moderators on Lemmy.world removing dissent comments and calls for action. That’s who they are. Center-right, 3 houses, great job, gonna inherit that boomer cash…. Your only hope is millennials and younger.
Edit: X
Maeve@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 192d
Some of us boomers are on your side. Not enough, but some.
PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org · 0 pts · 192d
I think we should just end social security and Medicare. I won’t ever get to use it at this rate so I shouldn’t have to pay into it. Let’s trim the fat.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 192d
Nice way to say, "f the generations behind us."
PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org · -1 pts · 192d
Pretty sure all the generations behind me said fuck the generations in front of us. So, cry me a river grandma. ;)
Maeve@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 192d
Maybe it will be around in some form or fashion, maybe it won't. While I am ok with Nietzsche, I am neither a doomer, nor a nihilist (although I have moments of weakness).
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 192d
Did you mean Gen X as gen Z is in the younger than millennial camp.
Don't get me wrong a specific subset of Z actually did get housing and good jobs because of their parents covid money but otherwise excluding that minority it doesnt match them and overwhelmingly matches the apathetic Gen X
PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org · 1 pts · 192d
lol yes sorry. Fat fingers
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 192d
they pretty much are the same party, both of them, outside of AOC, bernie, and people zohran.
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 192d
These politicians are held up as the "crazy left" or whatever derogatory term the right want to use to paint the entire Democratic party, when in reality the DNC campaigns against them and does their damnedest to keep them out of positions of influence. Which is so fucking weird because they are wildly popular with their constituents.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 191d
i think someone on here or reddit mentioned the AOCs, bernies, zohrans of the DNC are there as a release valve for any criticism against the old guard, they have them elected so they can avoid a total take over of the dnc by the "left"
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 191d
the oldguard DNC finally showed thier true colors as gop lite.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 191d
They have been showing their true colors since at least 2006, when they got a majority and congress went from being a rubber stamp for whatever GWB wanted to being a rubber stamp for whatever GWB wanted that made disapproving noises first.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 32 pts · 193d
Ah yes. The "opposition".
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 192d
They specifically said they are not the opposition party.
Which really prompts:
so what do yo do here?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 191d
UNIPARTY, they are coalition to the gop.
18107@aussie.zone · 28 pts · 191d
I see now why people keep saying "both sides".
Maybe they wouldn't have started this if elected, but I'd they're happy to continue it, I don't want to see them elected ever again.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 191d
They’re owned by the same evil oligarchs and a literal genocidal foreign rogue state https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 192d
WTF? They're concerned that voting AGAINST funding ICE would hurt their reelection? Who are they trying to impress? The 16% that think ICE is doing a good job? They should be concerned about the 84% that thinks they're going to far!
Any Dem that is thinking like that needs to go. ICE isn't "law enforcement," they are feral hyenas, preying on our nation. They are the Homeland Security version of DOGE, and they are a scourge on our nation. Any candidate that can't make that case to their constituents, who are AGAINST ICE, is too stupid and ineffective to be a Representative. They are far more concerned about their own survival, than the survival of America. Primary them out.
We know that MAGA is destroying America, so any Dem that isn't actively resisting them is complicit. This shouldn't even be a thing. EVERY vote on a MAGA issue is an automatic, across the board NO, by EVERY single Democrat. No exceptions should be tolerated. This is a political war, and it is imperative that Dems be as united as the MAGAs have been for years.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 11 pts · 192d
They're doing what their owners pay them to do.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 3 pts · 191d
Politics is a career choice for most of them. There is not an ounce of actual politics behind their performativity.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 192d
hash@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 193d
Democrat's spines, already known to be weak, now appear to be nothing but jello.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 192d
Jell-O can actually maintain its integrity. Their spines are more like soaking wet paper towels.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 192d
Shit like this is why they keep losing elections.
Dhar@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 192d
They don't care about elections, just that their 1% masters maintain power.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 192d
i wouldnt be surprise if republicans still maintain thier seats and the dnc acts "surprised".
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 18 pts · 193d
Democrats ARE NOT on your side. They are the enemy. We need revolution.
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 192d
Assholes
halfapage@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 192d
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 192d
We can do it! 💪 (Yes. I'm aware of the irony.)
1orangecat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 191d
If the Democrats are too scared then maybe it's time to go. They've been fattening themselve with corrupt money that they only know how to give up at the first resistance. There's no strategy at this point, just a buch of headless chickens.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 191d
They’re not scared they’re bought and paid for.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 192d
Progressive Yanks, you got to stop taking prisoners. Burn this shit down.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
You're talking to plants
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 192d
Can we get protest going outside these fuckers houses every day and night? Maybe throw some fucking rocks?
Are you FUCKING SHITTING ME???
every single one of the shit stains is complicit and will be tried for their cooperation with the enemy when this shit ends.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 192d
Hope so.
PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org · 12 pts · 192d
Lemmy losers: “we will win in the midterms”
mrslt@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 192d
And the non-Americans here were asking why we hated the "opposition" party so much.
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 191d
keyez@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 192d
Schuller, Jeffries and all these people need to be primaried and need to go.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 192d
I wonder if aoc changed her mind now about not primaring Jefferies
Maeve@kbin.earth · 5 pts · 192d
All of them need to go.
Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 192d
Yet you will get yelled at by complete morons for not supporting these assholes.
Godric@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 192d
Can someone better at math than OP explain to the class how many votes are needed in the house to have a majority, and compare that to the seats held by Republicans?
fort_burp@feddit.nl · 16 pts · 192d
I get that, for some baffling reason, you're defending Democrats, but their other option is to reject funding and cause another government shutdown. That could be combined with the current general strike (by extending it past the Jan 30 deadline to get the government funded) to bring the whole country to a complete halt unless ICE gets the fuck out, Trump and Noem impeached / locked up, or whatever other demands the people have of their government. This would be a fantastic use of political power to enable democratic expression and improve the lives of millions of people! That being said, there's no way the Democrats will do that. Instead, they support the Republican efforts.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 192d
Fixed that for you.
Godric@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 192d
Did you do that math on 435/2 + X Dems = bill passes? What is the magic number of Democrats that are needed for a bill to pass?
Also, what general strike? You can declare one all day long, but if the general public doesn't even know about it, it ain't that general.
Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 191d
Anything Republicans do Democrats get blamed for by leftists who support Trump by way of accelerationism.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 191d
Centrists just funded ICE for you.
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 192d
lol yet I get yelled at by centrists for not supporting this fascists, disgusting
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 191d
When Americans ask for the social safety nets we pay for Israelis to have were told it's "Marxism"
We the American taxpayers pay for Israeli citizens to get free universal healthcare, a $400 payment per child per month until they are18 and free college.
Don't worry we get a lot out of it because they are our"friends". Such good friends in fact that they funded Epstein and ghisline to run a child sex trafficking ring to blackmail our politicians. That's totally something a friend would do not a hostile foreign power that wants to bleed us dry for their imperial ambitions.
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 192d
This sounds like a great opportunity for David Hogg to enter the conversation again, supporting primarying these fuckers.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 8 pts · 192d
Oh man I don't think we can take another Jeffries temper tantrum about how people are making it so difficult for him to just do nothing but look professional.
Democrats, only want to do anything when its easy and doesnt distract from profiting.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 191d
So these are the dems the centrists keep telling me to shut my mouth up and vote for.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 192d
DINOs, old guard dems like chuck schumer nad jefferies ilk. look at which dems are in the senate that is up for re-election and primary them, its likely these 13 Dems is what schumer was protecting to end the shutdown.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 192d
It's time to bring out The Hook for the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries. If they won't go, drag them off them stage.
bizzle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 192d
I can't wait to vote against Eric Sorensen in the primary. That guy is a real chode and has betrayed the common man at every turn.
cmeu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 192d
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 191d
Is there some rule that the news never name or link to bills & their votes so we can look up comprehensive information? It appears to be House vote 42 for H.R. 7147.
Only the most conservative Democrats voted for this. The vast majority voted against.
They're a big tent party with a number of factions, and Blue Dog Coalition is the most conservative caucus.
That blame resides entirely with the leadership, not party members. This source, however, is entirely biased.
ICE is already overwhelmingly funded by last year's One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Simply defeating this new bill won't cut funding.
Abolishing ICE is a loser: the people still voted for immigration enforcement. Abolishing offices & agencies doesn't repeal laws people still want enforced, and whatever enforces immigration & customs regulations is logically called immigration & customs enforcement, ie, ICE. It makes as much sense as demanding abolition of all abused offices & agencies, and the Trump administration is abusing them all, especially the presidency. Should the US abolish the office of the president, too?
Moreover, abolishing a corrupt agency doesn't end the executive's power to corrupt more agencies. This is like getting mad at the stick instead of the person beating you with it: there are a lot more sticks!
A more logical answer here is to repeal Trump era changes, restrict the executive's authority, impeach abusive administrators. While Democrats need more liberal & progressive votes than they have to do that, the liberals & progressives are clearly voting to oppose ICE.
leadore@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 191d
It's planned in advance--they decide that they want the funding to pass and decide who will take the heat and vote for it--those in safe re-election districts, and just enough of them for it to pass. That way the rest of them can say "who me? I voted against it!" But except for maybe a few who really were opposed, the rest of them all agreed to pass the bill.
protist@mander.xyz · -17 pts · 193d
Of note, it doesn't matter at all what any Democrats in the House do with this vote, because Republicans hold the majority and are going to pass it regardless
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz · 37 pts · 193d
The vote was 220 to 207, with 7 Democrats voting for it. If they voted against it would have been 213-214.
Soooo, yeah, it fucking mattered.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com · 9 pts · 192d
Ugh...
From another article: https://time.com/7357264/ice-funding-bill-dhs-congress/
Democrat politicians always think they need to win before they inspire, forgetting that they need to inspire before they win. It's so so dumb. Take a stand for your voters and for what's right, you idiots.
I know most voted against it. I blame these seven, and Jefferies. What a disappointment he's been.
ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 191d
Only 7? You would've thought all of them voted for it based on the generalizations from this sub. This will certainly convince centrists to take your point of view.
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 191d
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say. Your beef is unclear and your argument muddled.
ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 190d
You guys are not good listeners, and not persuasive.
jontree255@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 193d
Yeah so none of them even had to vote for it. There was no downside to voting no. You could claim moral high ground and point to Rs as responsible for ICE. Anyone who voted in favor is complicit and Hakeem Jeffries is complicit for not even whipping the party to vote no across the board.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 13 pts · 192d
Yup, this makes it actually much worse
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 193d
Sounds like complicity.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 192d
I mean, even if this failed they had enough money from the last 70 billion to fund ICE regardless.
However, they should have stood up to this regardless. I don't understand what their logic is. They just didn't want to deal with shitty PR I guess.
Krauerking@lemy.lol · 5 pts · 192d
They aren't any action and only PR. Thats all their jobs and their siblings they hire as consultants.
Of course they only care about that. Its the only metric they measure "how happy the wealthy are"
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 192d
centrists are consistent in their support for the worst excesses of dictators, both abroad and domestically.