Cant do that on devices that arent running browsers, or browsers capable of extensions/add-ons. Like games consoles…my xbox would be the only device on my network relying on a VPN for this and other things that my pi-hole cant block.
Which all have browsers just like windows and android does.... with addon support in some. You're clearly in the completely ignorant "just hate apple but base it on nothing" crowd.
Still supports Google. They will produce more because people are trading in their old ones. Unless Google completely stops producing pixels, any demand for refurbished ones still shows up as demand for pixels from their sales metrics.
I mean i just use safari. It has a bunch of extensions, it blocks ads and tracking. You can add adguard to it if you want. You can get dark mode. Sometimes I use Firefox too but Safari really handles a lot. If you’re really up for trying privacy respecting browsers, Orion is great. Built by the Kagi developers so you know they care about your privacy. I stopped using it because it didn’t have dark mode last year but that might have gotten added by now.
Lol by solely using it to bypass ads on YouTube you’re not supporting them, they don’t get anything from except view history which they can’t do shit if you otherwise don’t use brave
Fair enough. But I need some way of watching YouTube without ads and PiP on my phone, and fuck am I paying google. If you or anyone have any alternatives I’m open.
No idea on the Albanian law part, but ad stacks can have tiny demand in certain GEOs, and western advertisers don’t want to pay for impressions there so they geo block them.
YouTube is remarkably good at circumnavigating a lot of adblocking, my adblocker blocks ads for pretty much every other app on my phone, except YouTube, so this is a pretty interesting trick, assuming it works. Will definitely be giving this a try.
I've never had a problem with YouTube ad blocking. uBlock Origin + ProtonVPN (NetShield) works just fine for me. I haven't seen a single ad on YouTube since I installed them.
Yeah.... I assume not as well. Whatever, I'm only on iOS because I can get the phones as family hand-me-downs, and I'm trying to spend less money on devices I'm constantly trying to use less rather than more. If this method works, I'll be pleased, but I'm not too desperate for a solution if it doesn't.
Reason is because the desktop version of YouTube is (still mostly? I think it's depends on the content) using client side ad serving. On the iOS and Android app, you are getting server side ad serving, meaning the content and ads are coming from the same CDN address. So if you were to block the ad manifest address in Pi-Hole you'd also be blocking the content.
Pi-Hole only really works in a client side served world. Server side it's harder if not impossible to get around. Server side implementations are more expensive to deploy, so that's why it's not as universal.
It's not clear to me exactly how New pipe and Vanced get around it, but I'm assuming it's just a browser wrapper?
I have never bought native brand products specifically because the ads were all over the place and obnoxious. It created a negative association with the brand. The ads literally convinced me to do exactly the opposite of what it wanted.
You know what the last ad I cared about was? Cowboys herding cats. No idea what it was for, just a hysterical idea executed with absurd dedication to the bit.
weird. I don't think I've ever seen an advertisement for a native product. people just go buy them on res because they're cheaper and word of mouth is all that's required
Oh damn, this seems to work. When I'm on my phone I typically use YouTube on Firefox with ublock origin and that works, but I also have the YouTube app which has ads on almost every video. I connected to Albania with NordVPN and watched a few ad-free videos on the YouTube app.
Look into ReVanced for Android or YouTube Plus for iOS. They're nodded clients with built in adblocker and sponsorblock, including more QoL features. I haven't seen and ad in months
ReVanced has been iffy since they got too popular through reddit, but I use grayjay which is FOSS and I really like it. It's still in development but have to support the work they're doing !
Maybe it changed but I only had crashes and version problems due to the spike in popularity. There were app takedowns and I had a less reliable experience so I switched.
I have not had many issues. Only on my old phone with a lineage OS ROM without google. On my current phone no real issues. I did only update it like every half year if even that. Most of the issues I got were from running a really old version of the app.
And mind you I have been a user ever since YT Vanced still existed. I even used the last vamced version untill it stopped working.
If it's Linux: get an Android container to run SmartTube
Otherwise: there are patches for the webviews on things like this sometimes (see: WebOS homebrew launcher). Or just get something that is one of the above.
I don't know shit about networking (I failed you, lemmy) but I wonder if you can install a vpn to your router now. I heard they are are often using linux inside?
Literally every single normal fucking router has some sort of VPN client burned in from the factory by now (mine has a fucking server, even), and even if not it probably either has an OpenWRT port or is a worthless ISP piece of shit you are expected to use with another router alongside anyway. It's not 2012 when you (probably) had to follow a buildroot tutorial on YouTube by some Indian guy with Cygwin.
Damn, wish I knew this before I've been paying for YouTube premium for, like, since the beginning of when they first started extorting money out of us. I've had an active thriving YouTube account since 2005. I don't exactly remember when I first started paying them money, but I guess they implemented that frogs-slowly-boiling-in-a-pot-of-water tactic. I am a boiling frog.
One thing that comes to mind is that if you're on iOS you unfortunately can't really run an adblocker on YouTube (sans running it in browser I guess), but you can easily use a VPN.
Also YouTube periodically tries to break adblocking. 99% of the time uBlock origin works, but this could be a backup if they ever succeed.
Oh and non-Android Smart TVs often don't have ad free YT apps available either. You can run those behind a VPN too.
You can. It's called Opera browser. Yea they data mine you but you can even get background play. I know I blasting one of my secret alternatives to giving youtube my money but hey share the love.
I already mentioned the browser option and you can also use Orion for that. It's not as nice to use as the app (though background play is obviously an advantage)
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schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 159 pts · 212d
something something
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 55 pts · 212d
God damn it, not again...
deletes system32
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 212d
It says delete a file, not a folder! Unfortunately, this means that deleting system32 doesn't count, so you need to find something else to delete
Brickhead92@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 211d
Hmm. I don't seem to be able to delete anything anymore. I'll reinstall, get the virus again, then delete something else.
AlolanYoda@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 211d
Is it OK if I delete the banking account for my company, or would you rather have me forward it to you and delete some random dll files?
tordenflesk@lemmy.world · 105 pts · 212d
That's certainly more complicated than just using UBO...
tenacious_mucus@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 212d
Cant do that on devices that arent running browsers, or browsers capable of extensions/add-ons. Like games consoles…my xbox would be the only device on my network relying on a VPN for this and other things that my pi-hole cant block.
Mac@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 212d
Skill issue
Saapas@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 211d
For devices that can run Android apps, there's SmartTube, free open source Youtube app that has no ads
LodeMike@lemmy.today · -10 pts · 212d
Some people still use Apple products.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 212d
And that is the first mistake.
M137@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 212d
Which all have browsers just like windows and android does.... with addon support in some. You're clearly in the completely ignorant "just hate apple but base it on nothing" crowd.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 212d
Safari has adblockers, at least it’s not Chromium based.
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 211d
And on iOS, those adblockers suck even more so than on chromium with manifest v3. I was surprised browsers could be worse, but here we are.
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 212d
Sideloading on an iphone or apple tv is very easy
https://github.com/dayanch96/YTLite
brbposting@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 211d
N/A for Apple TV?
https://farside.link/reddit.com/r/sideloaded/comments/1kk7v3k/no_youtube_ipa_for_apple_tv_why_is_everything_so/ (mirror, orig. below)
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 212d
their fault
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 212d
My iphone has brave
Works just fine IMO
LSNLDN@slrpnk.net · -1 pts · 212d
I see others still haven’t learned that brave on iOS blocks YouTube ads….
tyler@programming.dev · 20 pts · 212d
Don’t support Brave.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 212d
While you're at it, dont support Apple or advertisers.
tyler@programming.dev · 4 pts · 212d
The alternative is supporting Google which is far far worse.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
Or buy a refurbished Pixel and install Graphene.
tyler@programming.dev · 1 pts · 211d
Still supports Google. They will produce more because people are trading in their old ones. Unless Google completely stops producing pixels, any demand for refurbished ones still shows up as demand for pixels from their sales metrics.
lena@gregtech.eu · 1 pts · 212d
So which browser should those who are unfortunate enough to use iOS use?
tyler@programming.dev · 3 pts · 212d
I mean i just use safari. It has a bunch of extensions, it blocks ads and tracking. You can add adguard to it if you want. You can get dark mode. Sometimes I use Firefox too but Safari really handles a lot. If you’re really up for trying privacy respecting browsers, Orion is great. Built by the Kagi developers so you know they care about your privacy. I stopped using it because it didn’t have dark mode last year but that might have gotten added by now.
DeanTheCat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 212d
Orion (by the same guys who made Kagi) has Ad-Blockers built in. It can take both Firefox and Chrome extensions as well.
lena@gregtech.eu · 0 pts · 212d
It's not open source so nah
alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 211d
We're talking about apple users. Open source is already a lost cause.
LSNLDN@slrpnk.net · -1 pts · 211d
Lol by solely using it to bypass ads on YouTube you’re not supporting them, they don’t get anything from except view history which they can’t do shit if you otherwise don’t use brave
tyler@programming.dev · 2 pts · 211d
By telling other people to use brave you are supporting them. That’s literally the definition.
LSNLDN@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 211d
Fair enough. But I need some way of watching YouTube without ads and PiP on my phone, and fuck am I paying google. If you or anyone have any alternatives I’m open.
anzo@programming.dev · 2 pts · 210d
Orion browser was just mentioned here...
tyler@programming.dev · 1 pts · 210d
You can install an adblocker in safari, not sure if it will block YouTube ads though.
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 34 pts · 212d
It isnt true
There is supposedly no ads
But not due to laws preventing it
CluckN@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 212d
This is the worst haiku I’ve ever read.
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 212d
Ok 👍
binarytobis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 212d
It is true that there
Are supposedly no ads
But not due to laws
CluckN@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 212d
This is the second best haiku I’ve ever read.
placebo@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 211d
gray@lemmy.ml · 30 pts · 212d
Is it true though?
squirrel@piefed.kobel.fyi · 32 pts · 212d
It turns out that this is a question.
kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 211d
From my limited testing I did just now I did not get any ads on the official YT app, usually it's 2 per video at least.
BigDiction@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 212d
No idea on the Albanian law part, but ad stacks can have tiny demand in certain GEOs, and western advertisers don’t want to pay for impressions there so they geo block them.
Leastdoctor@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 212d
It doesn't seem to work for me in the app. In the browser I already didn't have ads, even without VPN.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 212d
I use a VPN and depending on which country I'm using, my podcasts don't have ads either.
Azrael@reddthat.com · 25 pts · 212d
Some VPNs have adblockers built in. Or you could just install uBlock Origin for free if you don't have a VPN
Hazzard@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 212d
YouTube is remarkably good at circumnavigating a lot of adblocking, my adblocker blocks ads for pretty much every other app on my phone, except YouTube, so this is a pretty interesting trick, assuming it works. Will definitely be giving this a try.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev · 14 pts · 212d
ReVanced seems to work well.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 211d
Takes 30 seconds to start loading a video nowadays but yeah I haven't watched a YouTube ad in probably 8 years
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev · 1 pts · 211d
Odd, not for me. For me it's still quite fast, loads near instantly.
Azrael@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 212d
I've never had a problem with YouTube ad blocking. uBlock Origin + ProtonVPN (NetShield) works just fine for me. I haven't seen a single ad on YouTube since I installed them.
Hazzard@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 212d
Mhm, I believe ublock does work, but I almost never use YouTube on a desktop browser. PiHole/NordVPN haven't had any success on the iOS app.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 212d
You can have firefox+ublock on Android. Idk about iOS though. Since apple is a monopoly and a bitch with browsers.
Hazzard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 212d
Yeah.... I assume not as well. Whatever, I'm only on iOS because I can get the phones as family hand-me-downs, and I'm trying to spend less money on devices I'm constantly trying to use less rather than more. If this method works, I'll be pleased, but I'm not too desperate for a solution if it doesn't.
Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
You can try the app Firefox focus on iOS, it’s a single tab private browser with Adblock, works with YouTube.
EveningPancakes@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 212d
Reason is because the desktop version of YouTube is (still mostly? I think it's depends on the content) using client side ad serving. On the iOS and Android app, you are getting server side ad serving, meaning the content and ads are coming from the same CDN address. So if you were to block the ad manifest address in Pi-Hole you'd also be blocking the content.
Pi-Hole only really works in a client side served world. Server side it's harder if not impossible to get around. Server side implementations are more expensive to deploy, so that's why it's not as universal.
It's not clear to me exactly how New pipe and Vanced get around it, but I'm assuming it's just a browser wrapper?
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 212d
use a 3rd party client, and if there isnt any for ios, well thats because ios is a platform that is activeltly hostile to developers
kopasz7@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 212d
Litube works pretty well for me. It's a webview app with adblock, sponsorblock and other QoL stuff.
Hazzard@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 212d
Oh, intriguing. A webview app is a good way to circumnavigate the walled garden, hadn't even occurred to me to look for a solution like that.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
Circumnavigate has now broken my record for fewest repetitions needed for semantic satiation.
glimse@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 212d
What on earth is this image formatting
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 51 pts · 212d
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 212d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 7 pts · 212d
Dutch angles
Divide my
Posts that I have lost
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 212d
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 17 pts · 212d
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 211d
glimse@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 211d
You need to overlap the two screenshots so it gets cropped weird
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 212d
I go out of my way to avoid using products that are advertised at me. Out of spite.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 212d
"as seen on tv? as seen on go fuck yourself"
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 212d
If they can afford advertising then it’s ripping you off. Doesn’t have to be out of spite.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 212d
I have never bought native brand products specifically because the ads were all over the place and obnoxious. It created a negative association with the brand. The ads literally convinced me to do exactly the opposite of what it wanted.
You know what the last ad I cared about was? Cowboys herding cats. No idea what it was for, just a hysterical idea executed with absurd dedication to the bit.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 212d
weird. I don't think I've ever seen an advertisement for a native product. people just go buy them on res because they're cheaper and word of mouth is all that's required
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 212d
“It’s natiiiive…”
No. Fuck off. It wasn’t cute when old spice did it. It’s no better when you do it.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 211d
no idea wtf you're talking about btw
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 211d
It’s their marketing jingle
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 212d
Oh damn, this seems to work. When I'm on my phone I typically use YouTube on Firefox with ublock origin and that works, but I also have the YouTube app which has ads on almost every video. I connected to Albania with NordVPN and watched a few ad-free videos on the YouTube app.
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 212d
Look into ReVanced for Android or YouTube Plus for iOS. They're nodded clients with built in adblocker and sponsorblock, including more QoL features. I haven't seen and ad in months
Evolushan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 212d
ReVanced has been iffy since they got too popular through reddit, but I use grayjay which is FOSS and I really like it. It's still in development but have to support the work they're doing !
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 212d
Iffy how?
Evolushan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Maybe it changed but I only had crashes and version problems due to the spike in popularity. There were app takedowns and I had a less reliable experience so I switched.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
I have not had many issues. Only on my old phone with a lineage OS ROM without google. On my current phone no real issues. I did only update it like every half year if even that. Most of the issues I got were from running a really old version of the app.
And mind you I have been a user ever since YT Vanced still existed. I even used the last vamced version untill it stopped working.
Evolushan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Thanks for the comments, reinstalled microg and revanced will try it out over the next weeks!
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Good luck.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 211d
Grayjay is a lot iffier. It's not even FOSS
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 212d
or just install ublock origin, newpipe or smarttube.
olafurp@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 211d
Just updated my revanced version on my phone. Revanced life is good.
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 211d
I'm a grayjay man but revanced is nice. There's also newpipe or you can just use Firefox mobile with uBlock origin :D
olafurp@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
I don't know what you get with Firefox mobile and extensions. Do you also get autoskip sponsors, background play, hide shorts etc?
tehmics@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Do you cast to a TV? I've tried grayjay but I haven't been able to switch from Revanced because casting was so abysmal
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 10 pts · 212d
Didn't seem to work for me on my phone.
olafurp@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Try revanced. It's still alive and kicking.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 1 pts · 211d
Not really the same thing as switching my VPN's country.
razen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 211d
Is ReVanced and uBlock are a very secret thing? Why do people look for the VPN alternative, i dont get it.
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 211d
Sometimes I like to watch on TV via set top box.
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 211d
If it's Android: SmartTube
If it's Linux: get an Android container to run SmartTube
Otherwise: there are patches for the webviews on things like this sometimes (see: WebOS homebrew launcher). Or just get something that is one of the above.
Magnum@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 211d
FreeTube?
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 209d
Maybe, but Google being assholes results in quite a bit more downtime in comparison
Magnum@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 209d
Because FreeTube uses invideous
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 211d
I don't know shit about networking (I failed you, lemmy) but I wonder if you can install a vpn to your router now. I heard they are are often using linux inside?
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 211d
Yes you can set up routers to route through a VPN, it's a pretty common thing
multifariace@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
I don't know anything about any of these other than I would watch a lot more youtube if it had no ads. I'm gonna need a ublock for dummies manual.
hydriplex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
Check out GL.iNet routers, they have this baked in the UI.
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 211d
Literally every single normal fucking router has some sort of VPN client burned in from the factory by now (mine has a fucking server, even), and even if not it probably either has an OpenWRT port or is a worthless ISP piece of shit you are expected to use with another router alongside anyway. It's not 2012 when you (probably) had to follow a buildroot tutorial on YouTube by some Indian guy with Cygwin.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 211d
Damn, wish I knew this before I've been paying for YouTube premium for, like, since the beginning of when they first started extorting money out of us. I've had an active thriving YouTube account since 2005. I don't exactly remember when I first started paying them money, but I guess they implemented that frogs-slowly-boiling-in-a-pot-of-water tactic. I am a boiling frog.
Albania. Noted.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 212d
Nothing is more satisfying than blocking or ignoring ads. Fuck you capitalists!
vga@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 211d
How does this differ from just using an ad blocker though?
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 211d
One thing that comes to mind is that if you're on iOS you unfortunately can't really run an adblocker on YouTube (sans running it in browser I guess), but you can easily use a VPN.
Also YouTube periodically tries to break adblocking. 99% of the time uBlock origin works, but this could be a backup if they ever succeed.
Oh and non-Android Smart TVs often don't have ad free YT apps available either. You can run those behind a VPN too.
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 211d
I found your problem.
RedditwhoHAHA@lemmy.org · -1 pts · 211d
You can. It's called Opera browser. Yea they data mine you but you can even get background play. I know I blasting one of my secret alternatives to giving youtube my money but hey share the love.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 211d
I already mentioned the browser option and you can also use Orion for that. It's not as nice to use as the app (though background play is obviously an advantage)
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 211d
You have to pay for a decent vpn
Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 211d
If you have a vpn chances are you use revanced app or ublock with browser