Pentagon warns Scouts: Ban girls or we will pull your funding
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/03/pentagon-warns-scouts-ban-girls-or-pull-funding/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/03/pentagon-warns-scouts-ban-girls-or-pull-funding/
120 Comments
ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com · 177 pts · 203d
I love how they tag this minor detail onto the very end where they have to publicly justify it to congress rather than just doing whatever autocratic whim they feel like.
Ironfist79@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 202d
Why does the military have anything to do with scouts?
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 202d
If you get eagle scout you get a small raise when you join the military, same as if you had an associates degree.
yeather@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 202d
You recieve the same bonus for a few different things. I think the girl scouts gold award and sea scouts quartermaster award give the same enlistment rank bonus.
Gathorall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 202d
Well yes, because all of those are certificates of auxiliary training befitting a soldier.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 202d
Scouts does do a really good job of preparing kids for the military if they so choose. Many of the hard and soft skills it teaches are very military-esque. Or put another way, I was chatting with another parent who's oldest just joined the military at 18 and they said the training is just like scouts and credited scouts with preparing them well for the military
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 201d
I was a scout, nah. We camped and helped old ladies at nursing homes.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
Sort of depends on your troop. As a young teenager we had to endure winter survivalist training which included building usable sleeping quarters in the sub-zero snow and spending the night in them, by yourself. Yes you could come back to the main building but you failed at the training if you did. Actual chance of freezing. They gave you a styrofoam cup half full of chili but otherwise you were on your own for sustenance too, including water. It did give me a sense of independence, but also a fear of the cold.
Ageroth@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 202d
It's not really teaching Boys to Scout, it's a program that is Scouting for Boys who are likely to do well in situations similar to the military, albeit a less modern one than exists today.
Gathorall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 202d
If deployed in significant numbers those skills are almost as useful in a modern military as a century or two before. An Ukrainian or the Russian soldier didn't need those skills in the barracks or having guard shifts at or near well supplied garrisons, but it is sure nice to know now.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 201d
Watch them do it anyway. Who's gonna stop them?
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 203d
The real enemy to America all along...Girl Scouts and their cookies. /s
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 203d
Scouts = boyscouts. Girls scouts is far worse and they're not associated.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 31 pts · 203d
GS are just cookie dealers that sometimes go camping. Between my two kids each being one or both programs the GS spend 70% of their meetings and time together talking about and planning cookie sales. The Scouts go on twice as many camping trips and only fund raise around Christmas. But one kid whom is in the more camp group is in the richer areas troop meanwhile the GS is in the lower income area so they tend to just try to make money.
My point in GS is for the kids you want to someday be in sales and the Scouts are for the kids who want to experience the outdoors.
Fondots@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 202d
A big part of the problem with girl scouts, in my opinion, is that a lot of the time the troops are kind of temporary.
Usually group of girls and their parents (usually moms, who may or may not have any scouting experience of their own) start up a troop, more-or-less from scratch when the girls are brownie or daisy-aged, and then that's pretty much it, they don't really do any ongoing recruitment, it stays just those same girls until they all either quit or age out of the program and then the troop dissolves.
Meanwhile, the (boy scout) troop I came up through is going to be celebrating its 100 year anniversary in a year or two. They have a garage full of troop gear, money in the bank, and decades of institutional knowledge of how to be a scout and how to run a scout program. We had one or two kids whose or father and I think even grandfather had earned their eagle from the same troop, the current scoutmaster was in the troop a couple years before me and his kids are in it now, the one before him was already scoutmaster when I started before his kid was old enough to join and stayed on for a few years after his son aged out, and every year we got a new batch of kids joining, some years more than others sure, but there was always new blood coming in
So there's a lot more continuity and something like generational wealth going on with the BSA. Girl scouts generally need to hit the cookies and fundraising hard because they're often kind of starting from 0 (not that there isn't some valid criticism about how the cookie sales work and how the money is distributed and used, but I don't know enough about that to really go into it)
And as far as recruitment, boy scouts made it really easy to find a troop, there's a website you can go on and find all of the ones near you, so if your kid just suddenly wanted to join, or if you moved and needed to find a new one it was dead simple to look that up. At least at the time when I was in, girl scouts didn't really have anything similar, unless you were already in the know about when and where the existing troops met you were kind of SOL if you wanted to join one. I remember one of our leaders talking about some sort of community event they were trying to put together, they had some representatives from a couple other local organizations and other scout troops and such coming, and they wanted to see if any of the local girl scout troops would want to take part, but he just couldn't get in touch with any of them, couldn't find contact info, when he reached out to their local council they basically stonewalled him
And unfortunately just by the nature of it usually being the moms who are the involved parents with girl scouts as opposed to usually the dads with boy scouts, there's often a bit less outdoorsy knowledge to build on (some of my best hiking/camping/fishing buddies are women, but until I was the one who started inviting them out, a lot of them had never done much that kind of thing, and unfortunately that's not a terribly uncommon situation, whereas guys tend to be more likely to grow up doing that sort of thing with their dads)
All that said, I've known a decent amount of girl scouts, and while a lot of them got stuck with shitty programs, there were a handful that actually probably went harder than we did in boy scouts. The odds aren't exactly in your favor of ending up in one of those girl scout troops, but with the right parents, kids, and resources they actually can put on a really good outdoor program (and their campgrounds are usually really nice as well) they just don't have the systems in place to make sure that all of their troops are able to do that to the same extent boy scouts can.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 202d
This is an extremely well thought-out comment. As someone with experience in both camps (literally), you hit the nail on the head here.
Fondots@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
Yeah, and I also think that the sort of temporary nature of most girl scout troops also hampers, what I think, was one of the most key parts of the boy scout program- the idea of "boys teaching boys" (I suppose they may phrase it more like "kids teaching kids" now)
The older kids in the troop took a really active role in running the program. Often we'd pretty much just get sort of a list of bullet points from the adult leaders for what we needed to accomplish and it was up to us to figure out how to make it happen, put together a plan, delegate responsibilities, and get the younger kids up to speed, while the adults stood by off to the side somewhere pretty much just making sure we didn't do anything too stupid.
Not all of us were exactly natural-born leaders, but because of that sort of organizational structure we all kind of learned some passable leadership skills.
But without that ongoing recruitment and the kids of different ages being active in the troop together, that kind of youth leadership can't really happen to the same extent
I've also heard some things, and I have no clue how true they are, about their adult leader training being a little excessive, like there's separate classes you're supposed to take before you do pretty much anything, like you need to take the training before you can go on a camping trip, and then there's a second training for if you want to have a campfire, and another if you want to go on a hike, etc. and I believe those are all trainings you would need to pay for
So if that's true (and it may not be, this is half-rememered info from probably about 2 decades ago) that does put a pretty high barrier of entry for a lot of people.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 202d
Girl Scouts is much more troop driven than boy scouts. It kind of sounds like your girl's troop leader just isn't very motivated.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 202d
I was attending the informational sessions from both GirlScouts and Scouts while trying to make the call for our daughter and the tone shift was jarring, where GirlScouts it was all "we're going to sell cookies and learn important things you need to know as a girl" and became honestly kinda sexist and just tried to badmouth Scouts when I asked how it compares. Meanwhile Scouts it was just "look we're going to go hiking and camping and make a race car to race and have fun!" (and had the exact same answer when I asked how Scouts compares to GirlScouts)
So yeah we ultimately went with the more inclusive option that didn't recoil at the idea of her wanting her brother who she adores to join and didn't turn to badmouthing the alternative when asked how they compare. And guess what, she's having a blast and it feels weird that it was ever a gendered thing in the first place!
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
The Girl Scouts let trans girls in though?
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 202d
Heh, then I guess Cub Scouts are popcorn dealers that sometimes go camping. :)
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
Scouting America teaches kids how to be soldiers. Girl Scouts teaches girls how to be ruthless boardroom headhunters.
So really, the difference is minimal.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 202d
GS are trans inclusive. So.
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 202d
You sure?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/boy-scouts-will-allow-transgender-children-180961982/
I do agree GS has far better messaging and consistency on it though.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 202d
Well . . . Yeah. In the article it says
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 202d
TBF some of these gravy seals could cut back on the cookies a bit.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 202d
This kind of policymaking brought to you by Tough Secure Manly Men, we swear
Insekticus@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 202d
Making America safe by getting rid of the real threat from within, once and for all ... girl scouts.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 2 pts · 202d
We need to get those Girl Scout cookies off the street.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 202d
Republicans will do literally anything to avoid actually governing.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 202d
This is the truth. It's stupid culture war shit all the way down with these guys. Harmful stuff that will do nothing but help a few angry incels jerk off to "owning the libs", but providing nothing of value to anyone in the country except for billionaires.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 202d
They are really afraid of girls who know how to castrate.
MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 203d
Just going to comment here to avoid some misconceptions. Apologies for the long comment. Tl;Dr, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts are not part of the same parent organization.
Scouting America is basically a rebrand for Boy Scouts of America. The rebrand happened when they began to admit girls into the program, like 8 years ago or do. Many people get confused thinking that Boy Scouts of America and Girl Scouts USA are partner organizations when they are not. They are two independent programs with different missions and values. For example, Boy Scouts has maintained Declaration of Religious Principle which requires to members to sign an agreement that states that they believe in some sort of higher power. They also include a Duty to God in their Scout Oath. Girl Scouts on the other hand is a secular organization that does not require a belief in any higher power but does encourage members to explore their own faith if they have one.
The decision for BSA to admit girls was a controversial one even within the organization, but their numbers have been flagging for a while and they felt that allowing girls in would help. There was also a more progressive wing within the organization that recognized how discriminatory this was and wanted to reform the organization. Joining Boy Scouts, with an organizational emphasis on nature, citizenship, and skill mastery, would be a different experience for girls than Girl Scouts, which allows troops to pick for themselves what they want to focus on to develop leadership and confidence and often doesn't include camping at all. Many girls joined Girl Scouts expecting it to have the same focus as Boy Scouts, would be disappointed, and then drop out. This could give the Boy Scout experience to girls.
In order to make this happen, it was agreed that girls would have separate troops from boys. They could share resources but each troop would have their own youth and adult leaders and would need to camp in separate sites. It is not like they are sharing tents or anything like that.
So that's why it is obvious to me that the Pentagon taking this stance is clearly regressive and just trying to be anti-woke and going after an easy target. The military is already coed, so why not give girls the same support and experiences that boys can have in Scouting? Its just another red flag that they want to prevent women from advancing in the military. They know that Scouting America is in a tough spot and thinks they can either get them to regress and tacitly endorse anti-wokeness or be made an example of.
There's another recent change in Scouting America that was also controversial and seen as woke that the article doesn't address. Following the George Floyd protests Scouting America came up with a new merit badge that would be required for any scout that wanted to reach the rank of Eagle: Citizenship in Society. This badge explicitly discusses racial injustice and teaches Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion principles. As you can imagine, this did not sit well with conservative members and many left in protest (though many had already left when girls and gays were allowed). There have been a few different new organizations attempting to recapture the old school Boy Scout mentality with a doubled down emphasis on gender exclusivity, religion, and pure meritocracy without any regard to positions of privilege. They are growing and I suspect one will try to replace Scouting America as the youth organization of choice for the military.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 203d
The troop my boy is in made the decision to be boy only but the troop one town over is mixed and they all camp in the same site with both boys and girls. So they don't have to be gender separate.
kata1yst@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 203d
Correct. The Dens / Units inside the Troop need to be gendered and have separate adults according to the rules, but actual applications of the rules vary in my experience.My apologies, my information is out of date. Gendered splits only happen in 5th grade for cub scouts now.
overthere@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 202d
This isn’t true either. There are rules about leaders of the same gender as the scouts present in certain situations, and separation in tents and bathroom/shower situations, but dens and patrols can be mixed gender
MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 203d
They are supposed to be in separate sites, though many troops have always skirted rules in scouting
overthere@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 202d
They are supposed to be in different tents with different bathing facilities. They can be in the same sites.
MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 202d
Is this a recent change? I got out about a year ago and up til then the training was clear that different sites were required
Fondots@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 202d
I'm wondering what exactly counts as a site for these purposes
I've been out of scouting for a long time now so I really don't know how they're working it
But I feel like different patrol areas at a lot of BSA summer camp sites probably offer more privacy and separation than there is at 2 adjacent sites at some non-bsa campgrounds.
I know at the summer camp my troop usually went to, you usually couldn't really see or necessarily even hear what was going on in another patrol's area, even though they were technically all part of the same site.
But at one state park we camped at a few times, we could pretty much see and hear everything that was going on in the adjacent group sites.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 203d
I guess they are arguing the Scouts arent educational or work. As both work and education have laws banning discrimination based on sex if they receive federal funding.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 50 pts · 203d
Fascists don't make a case. They just use force. In their view, argument and reason are for the weak, and the weak should not live.
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 203d
To the public that's true, but in court they send some poor sucker out to argue the dumbest spaghetti on the wall points ever only to be consistently admonished for saying things that imply they have no clue what the law is.
Lots of the point is in the public though, they quietly lose constantly, and to the extent the court proceedings matter it's akin to SLAPP suits.
MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io · 5 pts · 203d
I mean… they aren't either. Not in this context.
The grade schoolers aren’t employees of Scouts, nor are they students; they are members. Scouts has allowed women as volunteers and employees for as long as I can remember.
(In America) Girls have only been allowed to participate in Scouts and Cub Scouts for less than 10 years. It was not due to legal requirements that it started, and it still isn’t fully integrated. Charter organizations (local community organizations that sponsor individual units) determine whether their units will be for boys, girls or both. The “family troop” option only became available nationwide this last year
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
That's the real kicker here. If some babies are still so butthurt about it when they bring their boys to scouts, they can seek out a boys-only troop if they so wish.
But that kind of option simply isn't good enough for the jackass culture warriors, I guess. And I bet most of the most salty about it don't even have kids in Scouts - like Hegseth. God forbid girls from some other family have the option to join Scouts, because he's angry about a thing.
Fuck these people.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 202d
I would like to point out that Kegsbreath was not a Scout.
Also, even if he was, how having girls in the Scouts affects him, personally, is a real mystery.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 202d
He thinks boys should only meet girls in college by roofieing them.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 202d
I was in scouts. People brought their sisters to meetings all the time. They joined in whatever we were doing and it was fine. I also went on a couple girl scout trips. I don't even remember how that happened but we had a fun time. Most of the girls I met as a kid and remained friends with through my teens I met through scouts. Good experiences all around.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 202d
Hegseth can't be having with any of that nonsense!
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 38 pts · 202d
Eh, im not comfortable with the scouts being associated with such a sketchy organization anyway.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 202d
Ah yes, return to the roots of boys will be boys
What were they up to before that decade?
Scout's Honor
I know not everything they do relates back to protecting the wealthy global pedophelia network, but honestly this probably does.
There were even troops where boys from unstable homes were targeted and recruited by "scout leaders" with the promise of offering them better lives.
New Orleans Boy Scout Troop 137
JTskulk@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 202d
Gender fluid is what Hegseth guzzles at airport bathrooms.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 202d
In long, stringy ropes.
Croquette@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 202d
When there is Jesus, little kids get fondled. Fucking disgusting.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 202d
I don't think the scouts in the US started as religious (or at least not strongly religious), but there was plenty of molestation going on even back then. Or maybe I'm not remembering everything correctly--it's been awhile since I listened to the Behind the Bastards episodes on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2xoNCWd10
deHaga@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 202d
It was started by Baden Powell in the UK. He wrote a book called "scouting for boys". A lot of scoutmasters took that literally.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 37 pts · 203d
So fucking weird that they care so much.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 202d
Culture war BS to distract the MAGA base from the class war.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 202d
I think anyone butthurt about having girls in Scouts has a very tiny penis. I don't have an explanation for the women obsessed with this kind of thing, though.
If you are not a kid in Scouts or you are not a parent involved in Scouts, this affects you how? The right is obsessed with all sorts of shit that does not affect them in the least. They'll take up this kind of cause, all while they cannot afford to get by in this economy. It's so fucking stupid.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 201d
And yet, on the other hand, they're incapable of caring about other things until it affects them directly.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
Right wing women redirect their frustrations with being treated like breeding sows to an acceptable target. Gives them a feeling of power and control.
Janx@piefed.social · 5 pts · 202d
Their low-information voters care about this shit.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 202d
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 202d
Imagine being so invested in the extracurriculars of other people's kids
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 202d
Hell, these are the same people that are obsessed with where other people poop.
Also, Hegseth concerns himself with facial hair, so...
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 201d
The facial hair bullshit is to get rid of black soldiers.
Aonifall@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 202d
Does Hegseth know that the scouts aren’t part of the military and they’re a private organization? I’m just wondering because he doesn’t know much, especially when it comes to the military.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 202d
I don't think Hegseth knows which side is up on any given day of the week.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 201d
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 201d
This is insulting to Archer, who was actually intelligent, well read, well spoken, and good at his job
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 202d
Well the planet keeps turning, it's not that easy to keep track!
sober_monk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
More like the room keeps spinning
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 201d
Eagle Scouts get advanced rank after basic/boot. That translates into pay. Kicking girls out of the BSA is basically denying them a valuable head-start.
https://www.hoac-bsa.org/blue-elk/eagle-scout
https://www.29palms.marines.mil/Articles/Article/499378/eagle-scouts-a-road-to-military-service/
Aonifall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 199d
OK, and when was the last time scouts were called up to duty? I don’t remember the scouts being out there in Afghanistan. And that’s Eagle Scout, not Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, or Girl Scouts, and most Eagle Scouts don’t even attend military. So be that as it may, what it is and what it actually is are two different things they want to take funding because they’re afraid of vaginas and the Boy Scouts or scouting in general. Hegseth, like many of his ilk, is afraid of vaginas. They’re also afraid of people, removing their penises and making them vaginas.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 202d
Bitch, please. They weren't scared of the Mormons, and they took an even bigger financial hit for breaking up with them. You think they're gonna be scared of you? In this climate, the instant they announce cutting ties with you, fucking Taylor Swift or Mark Ruffalo will swoop in.
Hawanja@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 201d
Wait I'm confused, are they trying to ban the Girl Scouts?
Or is this like, the organization formerly known as "Boy Scouts" is just "Scouts" now, (like it's Co-ed scouts) and the chuds are pissed at that because boys are now playing with girls?
Jesus, these fuckwits get pissy about the stupidest fucking shit.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 201d
It's the second one. Girl Scouts they have a separate beef with, I'm sure. But this is about Scouts being accepting of girls, because that "violates "DEI, because these assholes have decided they have a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY on tolerance.
I wish I was fucking kidding.
I hope all the pious jackasses that told me (and keep telling me) that Kamala/Biden was just as bad are fucking happy with themselves...
mcv@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 201d
From what I understand, the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts are completely separate organisations in the US, and also quite different in their outlook, with the Girl Scouts being very inclusive and somewhat progressive, while the Boy Scouts are a bastion of male chauvinism, patriarchal values, intimidation and sexual abuse.
A couple of years ago, the Boy Scouts tried to change that, and apparently that's really upsetting to Hegseth.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
The Boy Scouts made the decision in 2017 to start admitting girls and in 2018 started carrying that out. I think their split with Mormons really hurt membership and this was a way to increase membership.
As others have said - long before that, it was often the case that siblings and mothers (as leaders) were involved in troop activities anyway.
And yes, this story has nothing to do with Girl Scouts because as you say, they are an entirely different org.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
Gonna play dipshit's advocate here for a minute and say that canceling funding for Scouts based on DEI is pretty low-key evil compared to their perception that Kamala was personally flying planes over to Palestine and dropping nuclear cluster agent-orange munitions on the women and children there.
Hawanja@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
I mean, what did these people think Trump was going to do with Palestine? Send them kevlar body armor?
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
Ah, that's far to much thinking for those types.
Hawanja@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 201d
Could not agree more. If Kamala were president none of this shit would be happening. Alex Pretti, Renee Nicole Good, and dozens of others would still be alive, thousands of families would not have been destroyed. Anyone who says "The Democrats are just as bad" are on crack.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 200d
Don't forget that she also wouldn't be doing stupid shit like destroying the East wing (literally), slapping her name on the arts center, talking about ballrooms and arches, grifting like a motherfucker (to the tune of 1.4 billion), kidnapping foreign leaders and stealing their assets, casually talking about invading/annexing other countries including allies....and all while the economy is imploding due to tariffs and while people are unemployed through direct actions done by the administration/party and while people having their health care and food security torn away.
The bOtHsIdeS dumbasses can pound sand.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 201d
It's the organization formerly called the "Boy Scouts". The Girl Scouts is a wholely independent organization that doesn't, to my knowledge, receive money from the government to operate, hence Girl Scout cookies as a revenue source to fund activities.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
I'm sure if Pedonald's goons find some way to punish Girl Scouts, they will surely pursue it.
But yeah, holding funds over Scouts is something they hope to lord over the Scouts, and all so they can make girls in Scouts cry, I guess? I mean that's the likely outcome here if the Scouts cave to these fucking demons.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
I'm pretty sure the Scouts organization is going to tell him to eat grass because despite that government funding a few years ago they were going into bankruptcy. That is until they stopped being the "Boy" Scouts and opened up their membership.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
Yeah, as others have pointed out, if they were willing to part ways with Mormons, I could see them doing the same with the likes of Kegsbreath.
chewypoops@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
To be fair, the article originally misidentified the organization: https://archive.is/20260204084641/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/02/03/pentagon-warns-scouts-ban-girls-or-pull-funding/
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 22 pts · 202d
Lol I know like a dozen eagle scouts and today 100% of them are gay or trans. Trying to keep the BSA conservative while every uncomfortable father is enrolling their pansy son is a game of entropy that the right cannot win.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 202d
Maybe they worry this is where the trans learn to shoot.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 202d
At least Scouts teach firearm safety, which clearly ICE skipped in their rush to terrorize neighborhoods
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 201d
The way things are going, we might be seeing scout troops on the battlefield against ICE. That would make for a cool movie, but really shouldn't be a thing. 😕
AA5B@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 201d
I can picture it, just like Red Dawn, but updated with the new threat to society
GO, WOLVERINES!
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 202d
Yep lol, a decent chunk of the trans women I've slept with have been eagle scouts
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 201d
Lol that's hilarious actually... Maybe they're afraid of this being a source of military training for leftists.
discocactus@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 202d
The Pentagon funds the scouts? FFS...
U7826391786239@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 203d
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 202d
The MAGA asswipes would like to transform the Boy Scouts into their version of the Hitler Youth, Young Pioneers and other fucked-up youth groups for brainwashing purposes.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 202d
The Mormons used it specifically for indoctrinating young men into their own cult for decades. They were BSA's biggest sponsor for fucking ever, since participating was mandatory for Mormon boys. Breaking ties with the Mormons over gay rights was a big fucking deal. It was a cultural nuke at the time when I was in Utah.
scala@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 201d
When Jesus forgives is an excuse for eliciting children.
whereIsTamara@lemmy.org · 11 pts · 203d
HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 203d
Been through scouting and boy does it have some issues, but its also valuable. Wish we could trash the institutions as they are and replace them with a unified education org. Scouting is great as a learn about the outdoors and leadership education, not so much as an alternative to tying kids hands to the bed frame to stop them masturbating (iykyk).
Hopefully this won't be what kills scouts, hopefully the org will have a more phoenix style burn and rise form the ashes renewed and better
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 202d
As someone who was in Scouts not long before they started imploding from the scandals and now has a kid in Scouts, I really do get the feeling that the modernization they've been tackling has been very much akin to this. Just feels like a much healthier organization which isn't actively trying to pretend its still the 1960s
AccoSpoot@lemmynsfw.com · 9 pts · 202d
Dumbest dystopia ever.
Fourth@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 202d
Telegraph is an absolute shitrag
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 201d
WTF does the Pentagon have to do with the BSA.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 201d
Lots of fundamentalists see it as rotc for children and thus a military branch much like the Hitler youth and thus they want segregation. Girls are brownies boys are scouts, boys are Hitler-Jugend girls are Bund Deutscher Mädel.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 201d
Christ. Can’t people just have fun camping, tying knots, and doing a little community service?
Madison420@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 201d
Fascists don't lie the common people doing anything that isn't for them so..... No?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 199d
The fascist bigots seem to think being a scout is military training or military like. Probably because they were never in the fucking Scouts.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 4 pts · 201d
They are involved in every Organisation that is into molesting children
HubertManne@piefed.social · 7 pts · 201d
the title says scouts. girl scouts are scouts. ipso facto they want boys in the girl scouts?
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 201d
The scouts they are talking about is the org Scouting of America. Girl Scouts is a separate entity and I don't think they get any kind of subsidies from the military?
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 201d
yeah I thought they all ran under the same macro entity but honestly I don't have a lot of care for either.
foggy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 202d
Hey Democrats, here's how to spin it:
"THEYRE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR THIN MINTS."
It doesn't need to be accurate. Get on their level.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 202d
Girl scouts sell thin mints; Scouts (formerly BSA or Boy Scouts of America) doesn't seem to have a unified strategy for fundraising. Cub scouts does popcorn.
The cookies will remain regardless of Pedonald and Pete Hegseth's culture war nonsense - unless they start going after Girl Scouts for allowing trans...
But to your point, I guess - to the mushbrained types, the details don't really matter. Most people don't even know that girls are in Scouts or that BSA changed their name to Scouting America. They also don't know that Girl Scouts are entirely separate...
foggy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 202d
aquovie@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 202d
It's "Scouts BSA" for what's formerly "Boy Scouts" and the parent organization (of Scouts BSA, Cubs, etc) is "Scouting America".
breakfastmtn@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 202d
https://archive.is/jJV81
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
NO GIRLS ALLOWED.
aquovie@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 202d
It says "girlS". We can have one.