Melania drops 67% at US box office as Rotten Tomatoes defends record-breaking audience scores
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2026/feb/09/melania-drops-67-at-us-box-office-as-rotten-tomatoes-defends-record-breaking-audience-scores
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supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 130 pts · 217d
Doesn't mean they aren't paid shills.
Rotted Rotten Tomatoes.
tburkhol@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 217d
I saw a clip of...maybe Jordan Klepper...interviewing people going into a showing. All of them just full-on fan-girl with anticipation, and completely upside down from the entire rest of the world. All older white people, fancy dress, clearly wealthy; might have been a premier.
It left me thinking that someone should follow some of these people around for a while to see where their special reality comes from. Study them, like Jane Goodall with the apes.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 217d
I saw that too. They were all a bunch of rich Republicans. The screening was at the Kennedy center so it wouldn't surprise me if basically everyone watching that screening was a government worker (or their friend/family) who probably moved to DC specifically to work for their favorite fascist.
I also wondered how those people could be real and studying them wouldn't be a bad idea.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 217d
Sounds like a bunch of DEI hires to me.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 217d
Nazi snowflakes deserve jobs too! /s
fake_meows@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 216d
Paid crisis actors.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 217d
Buying a ticket and actually watching the movie are two different things. For all we know all those that "bought" a ticket and left a review are all the military personnel that were ordered to go see it and probably were ordered to leave a glowing review.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social · 20 pts · 217d
for boston they had a craigslist post asking for people to go and be paid for launch night
asqapro@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 217d
I assume you're referring to this post which was definitely fake. The numbers in the ad are prank numbers.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social · 3 pts · 216d
Perhaps, but it's still believable, if past reports of similar things for this family are true. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161/
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
what's that meme about russian bot farms only this time it's rt reviews
blattrules@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 217d
The only people buying tickets for this are maga morons, so this makes sense.
Gargantuan@piefed.social · 12 pts · 217d
it makes sesnse though. Anyone paying to see it is probably MAGA anyway, so of course they’re going to rate it highly.
i doubt very many non MAGA types have seen it, so there will be very few negative reviews for that reason alone.
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 217d
Probably the equivalent of publishing companies buying thousands of copies of books so that they are best sellers.
Encephalotrocity@feddit.online · 11 pts · 217d
Maybe I don't understand that site, but you click on the 99% rating and you get a list of reviews that shows 20 rotten, 2 fresh. Just a bad look imo.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 217d
Sorry in this case we can't tell you how the ratings work, it is classified for national security reasons.
ConstableJelly@piefed.social · 8 pts · 217d
I'm not convinced there's a conspiracy here. Seems entirely likely that Rotten Tomatoes has no contingency for the release of a movie so blatantly sycophantic and propagandistic that the only people spending money on tickets are those who are already bought into the fantasy.
adarza@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 217d
and bots.
and when you look at who owns the sites, you have to also throw in the very real possibility of manipulation of the data itself from within, too.
SirHaxalot@nord.pub · 3 pts · 217d
Exactly, and it doesn't mean that Rotten Tomatoes is somehow involved in the review manipulation. It is obviously possible for an external party to influence the audience score, they just need enough money to buy tickets that can verify. It's probably a much easier way than pressuring RT to manipulate the reviews if you have the money (and maybe even an interest in funneling that money into movie earnings)
That most people wouldn't even think of buying a ticket and thus can't post a review almost definitely plays a part as well.
Don_alForno@feddit.org · 2 pts · 217d
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 66 pts · 217d
Why would anyone go watch a movie about an imported prostitute?
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 217d
I'd watch a true story documentary on her life, I think that would be intriguing and unique. How many mail order brides find themselves in the white house, ya know? What happened in her life to get to that point? But this film is not that, only covering the month of January 2025.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 217d
My partner said this also, but personally I find her the least interesting person in history. I really doubt there's much to her life besides her using her looks to manipulate her reality. She randomly met the right rich loser and used him for his money. Then his psychopathic personality led him to the white house. If they did make that documentary I would watch it, but I feel pretty confident I would be disgusted by a terrible person getting humanized and being reminded by the awful destruction of the United States that weighs literally zero on her conscience.
There is no way to square her actions with anything but a soulless money-hungry void where a human is supposed to be. She may be most remembered by her explicit choice to wear a jacket reading "I really don't care, do you?" When visiting a prison for immigrants. And if that turns out to be the case, it would be fair. She's a fucking monster, and every day she doesn't kill or divorce Trump is a day she proves that
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 217d
Oh yeah you're not wrong and there's about a dozen caveats to me actually wanting to watch it. It needs to be objective and fact based. It needs to be produced independently. It needs to include an actual investigation, with interviews of friends from the old country. And so on.
But I stand by that there is at least a unique, albeit horrifying, story there for someone unaffiliated to uncover.
yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 217d
To be fair, though, she’s a psychopath, so it’s bound to be ugly and boring. Imagine the life of that soulless zombie-esque creature. What is there to watch?
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 217d
We need tariffs on imported prostitutes, support the domestic sex worker industry!
^/s^ ^but^ ^kinda^ ^not^
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 7 pts · 217d
Trump would probably support the sex worker industry but they are all too old for him.
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 3 pts · 217d
No he wouldn't even if he weren't a pedo. He'd never actually pay someone for honest labor.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
Would an imported prostitute (not that there’s anything wrong with that) be given an Einstein visa?
artyom@piefed.social · 3 pts · 217d
They're not supposed to. It's just shameless bribery. I bet the whole thing is just about DJT from her POV anyway.
Axiochus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
Wow, or we could drop the misogyny and just dislike her for being part of a fascist dynasty. No need to berate sex workers, either.
Janx@piefed.social · 13 pts · 217d
I didn't detect any judgement. "Why would anyone go watch a movie about an imported wife?" and "Why would anyone go watch a movie about an imported cashier?" both sound about the same as the original sentence to me...
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 217d
Man, this looks very bad for RT. If they don't course correct on this, they are going to lie any remaining trust or faith.
mech@feddit.org · 32 pts · 217d
RT looking almost as bad as RT.
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 4 pts · 217d
Take the rest of the week off after that one.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 217d
They've been obvious shills for at least a decade. All you have to do is look at any new release. They rarely get below 80/90%. Every single fucking movie can't be the citizen Kane they claim it is.
hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 216d
If only people who buy tickets can leave the initial reviews, that kind of makes sense. Their system selects for people who are interested in the premise of the movie.
jasoman@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 217d
Someone at RT is in the epstine files.
you_are_dust@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 217d
How can you even have a documentary about possibly the most uninteresting person on earth? I'm not sure that I've even heard her speak before. A documentary about my neighbor would be more intriguing.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 17 pts · 217d
Conservatives are bootlicking morons.
flamingleg@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 217d
what is the deal with your neighbour?
derry@midwest.social · 35 pts · 217d
"applauding the lack of nudity and profanity."
Hmmm wonder if they ever saw the prequel?
paequ2@lemmy.today · 33 pts · 217d
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/melania
Wow. Currently 8% vs 99%
eatCasserole@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 217d
0% chance that's legit.
Nihilistic_Mystics@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 217d
I actually make perfect sense given recent changes RT made. In order to leave an audience review and be counted towards the score, you need to be a verified viewer. Like, someone who has paid for a ticket through an RT partner like Fandango. The reason for this recent change was to prevent review bombing, like what happens on every movie conservatives hate. It obviously has some major drawbacks, like we can see for this movie's verified audience ratings, as only bootlickers would ever watch this garbage fire propaganda. So we only see their ratings here.
However, we can still see the all-audience ratings by clicking on the score and selecting that option. It's currently sitting at 29%, and that's even after a Republican campaign to boost the score.
So, we have critic scores at 10% (as of this very moment), which makes sense because the movie is trash and only the Republican culture warriors are giving it a thumbs up. Then only ticket purchasing viewers have their score taken into consideration for the "Verified Audience" score, so you only get bootlickers and of course they're all giving it a perfect score.
eatCasserole@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
Ah yes, the "all audience" button makes it make sense.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 217d
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/melania/reviews/verified-audience
You'll see conservatives launch activist promotion campaigns for different kinds of call-in shows. Dancing with the Stars was a big one that Republican affinity groups would try to juice people up over. This feels like a lot of the same.
Almost certainly some kind of chain-letter style email circulating through some Florida/Texas conservative club saying "If you love our president, go to Rotten Tomatoes and give this movie 5 stars to Own The Libs".
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 217d
All you gotta do is check out the people leaving positive reviews. They either don't exist anywhere but RT, or are obvious bots/paid shills.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 217d
Rotten tomatoes has always been shit, always gonna be shit
mlg@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 217d
Its actually wild seeing the critic reviews sitting at 8% with the "verified user" score at 99%.
Usually they pay off both groups lol.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 217d
I came to that conclusion after paying money to see Brad pitt in F1 following 97% scores.
They took the exact plot of Stallone's Driven, to date the worst movie ever made about racing, or anything else.
cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 217d
Hollywood manages to successfully astroturf reviews most films for at lest a couple weeks after release.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 5 pts · 217d
And yet we won't get a How Did This Get Made episode about F1, making it completely worthless
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 217d
I'm remembering that dime scene now. That movie was really fucking bad.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 217d
I like Driven. It is definitely a cheesy movie but it is actually more believable in some ways. No way any driver just steps into a modern F1 car and starts winning.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 216d
Uh...oh nevermind. Netflix ruined F1.
Driven was originally supposed to be an F1 movie, but when Bernie Ecclestone got wind of that stupid plot he kicked Stallone out of Europe.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 217d
90% swing between critics and public? WTF? Has there ever been a movie with so many fake reviews?
Nihilistic_Mystics@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 217d
For obvious propaganda pieces like this, that's how "Verified Audience" reviews will always be. In order to be counted you need to have purchased a ticket through one of RT's partners, so it's self-selecting. No sane person is going to buy a ticket to this bribe masquerading as a documentary, so it's only insane Republicans being counted towards that score.
You can select "All Audience" if you want to see everyone. It's at 29%, even after Republicans' review boosting campaign.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 217d
Yup. Giving it a positive review is basically saying "I support Trump" since nothing involving him could ever be bad in any way to them, and of course 99% of the people who actually paid to see it will be Trump supporters.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 216d
Given everything we've learned in the last few years, the chances are extremely high that at least half those purchased tickets don't correspond with a living person actually sitting in a cinema seat.
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 19 pts · 217d
Sure.
derry@midwest.social · 5 pts · 217d
🤣 reeks of "I have a " fill in the blank racist stereotype "friend!"
teft@piefed.social · 18 pts · 217d
Gee, that doesn't scream bots at all. /s
HubertManne@piefed.social · 12 pts · 217d
They had a round table of reporters who watched the movie talking about it on npr. One guy said he stood up before the movie and asked anyone in the audience who was not a reporter to raise their hands and two people did. Later he was asked if it was propoganda and he was like. It was more like an informercial. He also pointed out they had a scene of trumps inaugural which does not line up with actual video of his inaugural.
HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth · 12 pts · 217d
Is rotten tomatoes not own by amazon the same company on which half the AI review ( sometimes not even about the product where the review is posted ) show verified purchase?
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 217d
RT owned by Fandango, mostly NBC. You might be thinking of IMDb where the film has been listed as #1 movie in america all week, with a 1.3/10 rating.
HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 217d
Ya probably got them mixed
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 217d
No, it’s owned by Fandango, which itself is mainly owned by Versant (formerly the NBCUniversal cable network business) and WBD.
Sludgeyy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 217d
Just read the reviews compared to a normal reviewed movie like toy story 2.
"I I really enjoy this sequel" - 3.5 Stars Good B
Good B is a harsh critic for sure. But nothing like that for Melania. What are the chances two humans use double exclamation marks right after each other? How many people use hyphens? 50% of people like in the 4 sample size for Melania?
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 217d
Either bots or poor people from developing countries are paid to make positive comments of the movie.
Sludgeyy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 216d
You do not get non-native speakers writing "perfect" reviews.
It could be AI responsives submitted by hand.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 217d
What if she's Krasnov's handler and this tripe is to ensure she looks vapid and uninteresting when the feds remember their mandate?
Sektor@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
It's only so that Narcissist pedo think she's doing great. They show him 99 and put the thumb over the 9 %.
Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 216d
dead internet theory
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
Sometimes it’s fun to not have given a shit about movies for several decades.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 217d
RT critic score always was shite, they would push expensive shit projects in the 90+% range constantly.
The audience score usually has been more reliable but as this instance shows, it's super easy to manipulate as well.
IMDB scores are much more reliable
Nihilistic_Mystics@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 217d
My dude, critics just value different things than everyday audiences. When you watch movies for a living you become jaded and value uniqueness more than anything. General audiences care a whole lot less about uniqueness and just want something entertaining. That's why you get off the wall stuff with high critic ratings but low audience ratings, or fairly generic but entertaining stuff with low critic ratings but high audience ratings.
Just know how to read the scores and RT is still the most useful around. Critic score are uniqueness, cinematography, and potentially storytelling. Critics also like drama much more than the average person. Audience scores are for entertainment value. But you also need to take the scores in context of genres you like. If you love scifi and a movie has a 50% audience score, you'll probably enjoy it plenty. If you hate scifi it's probably not for you at all.
anistorian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 217d
This is the most useful comment I read in a long time.
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 217d
How is IMDb much more reliable? I'd argue that's even easier to manipulate as you don't need to buy a ticket to leave a review. Review bombing (in either direction) is pretty rampant on IMDB.
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
Pretty much anything that reaches a critical mass now gets manipulated. Web 2.0 saw to that.