Me while waiting for a passable alternative

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ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org · 165 pts · 183d (2 replies)

I'm in my mid thirties and I sure as hell am not giving my identity documents to a service that gets hacked every other week

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 183d (1 reply)

May as well go on the dark web and add your personal info to the latest database dump from whatever hackers. Will be funny once the credit reporting agencies get all the identity theft fraud from the leaked data. Of course, they’ve been breached themselves probably more than some gamer chat forum because their security is a joke. It’s like at this point, the only reason not to post your personal info is so you don’t get swatted when you make a comment someone doesn’t like about Nicki Minaj or some other asshole.

ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org · 5 pts · 183d

There's loads of other reasons to be anonymous online too.

Mostly for your own physical safety. Also none of this crap is about protecting kids. Middle aged wine-moms need to parent their stupid kids instead of letting the family iPad be the caretaker. Pornstars aren't at fault if little timmy sees a pair of tits or a vagina, that would be the kid's parents who are at fault

Scrollone@feddit.it · 65 pts · 183d (5 replies)

If you use Discord as a forum for your project/game/whatever, this is the perfect time to stop doing that. Seriously.

Just install Discourse, or a commercial product such as XenForo (they have a pay-once self-hosted option), or even phpBB.

We need project forums to be discoverable, easy to access, not tied to a commercial platform.

fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 62 pts · 183d (3 replies)

Discord is shit as a forum anyway - it's a chat room.

It was a lot easier to find answers or reply to questions on phpbb forums.

djdarren@piefed.social · 18 pts · 183d

Not an unpopular opinion, I know, but I will die on the hill of Discord being the worst possible service for anyone who thinks they want to offer support for their software.

It's so comically bad for what SO MANY people use it, and is genuinely a point at which I'll just abandon the software and look for something that has an actual support forum.

Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 183d

Yeah I genuinely can't stand the layout of some of the support sections in discord.

lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 183d

I never understood the appeal of Discord or chat in general. Going all the way back to ICQ, I found it distracting. I'm guessing most people using it multitask, but I don't so I always just sat there staring at the program waiting for a reply.

UnfinishedProjects@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 183d

I literally just did this. Except I'm not trying to drop any money into it at the moment, so I did a free hosting option (flarum).

I'm also going to hijack this comment to shamelessly plug my new forum, in the hopes someone might be willing to come join (https://unfinishedprojects.flarum.cloud/).

ameancow@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 183d (30 replies)
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hdsrob@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 183d (18 replies)

As an old: You kids and your TeamSpeak .. back in my day we used Ventrilo, and we were happy to have it! (uphill both ways or something about my lawn).

ameancow@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 183d (13 replies)
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JackbyDev@programming.dev · 7 pts · 183d (5 replies)

This is the part where my mom would mention party lines.

In some rural areas there was something like not every house had a unique phone number, but as a side effect you could just pick up the phone and talk to all the people on that same party line at once.

ameancow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d (2 replies)
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dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d

Squatting on a party-line to play WoW is just a wild pairing of technological eras to me. If we go by the invention date of the former they're more than a century apart (1878).

Also: rude!

JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 183d

That's amazing. I'm gonna tell my mom that, she'll love it.

Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 183d

Yeah back on the days of analogue telephone lines every phone number ultimately required 2 copper wires going all the way from the nearest local exchange to the telephone handset in the home or business, so many smaller towns and rural areas got party lines as a way to save on copper and switching costs. Instead of a dedicated pair of copper wires to every house with a phone, all of the houses on a given block were on one line (all on one electrical circuit), so you'd pick up the phone and be able to talk to (or listen to) your other neighbors without dialing.

Edit to add: in some rural areas they'd even use the barbed wire fences already at farms as a wire for delivering telephone service instead of running new phone lines, sometimes even using Single Wire Earth Return to further reduce copper requirements

Vespair@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 183d

The Kinks even wrote a song about it

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 183d (2 replies)

mIRC

moonshadow@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 183d

My server wouldn't let you on with mIRC unless you were at least cool enough to disguise it/use a bouncer. Kept the M$ riffraff out ;)

ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
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NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d (2 replies)

Uh oh!

ameancow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d (1 reply)
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Joeffect@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d

Still remember my number lol

hdsrob@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 182d

I'm that old too!

But that's way before I started real online gaming, where Vent was during the peak of my online gaming days.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 183d (3 replies)

back in my day Ventrilo

Ahh "Vent." My biggest memory there is people trolling with the sign-on TTS.

"My ROFLCOPTER GOES SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI...."

Anybody remember the brief flash in the pan that was "X-fire"? Haha

poweruser@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 183d

Back in the day my college had very strict filtering on the WiFi. I learned how to use SSH tunneling through PuTTY to bypass the firewall to connect to X-Fire. I was so 1337.

I can still hear the ripping jeans sound effect

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d (1 reply)
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 183d

YES!!

When I stall and forget what the heck I was saying, thanks to this video I'll sometimes just go "...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...AEIOU..."

Probably about how I'd react to having to fix a component on a moon base too. XD

"Snake? SNAKE? Saaaaaaake 🍶...."

roserose56@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 183d (10 replies)

Team speak is voice mainly, but yea.

ameancow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d (8 replies)
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SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 183d (2 replies)

Me and my friends use it to stream our gameplay or watch movies and stuff together. Nothing else I've seen really allows you to do that easily.

ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
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MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 183d

Something about it isn't as super-convenient like Discord but, Signal desktop has a pretty good screen presentation mode that works pretty well. I dunno how bad the latency is or anything though.

JackbyDev@programming.dev · 5 pts · 183d

The thing is that Discord is sort of like three or four things all in one and it's really difficult to find a good replacement that does them all while still having a nice userbase.

Rooster326@programming.dev · 3 pts · 183d (2 replies)

Wow this felt oddly personal.

Have you never wanted to view your friends face?

ameancow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d
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MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 183d

Some people must have friends who have faces for radio. Lol

cato@lemmy.duckpond.social · 1 pts · 183d

could be about the missing chat features.

Xttweaponttx@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 180d

TS6 supposedly has screenshare. Big drawback from my view right now is no mobile client 😕 still, probly gonna be switching any day now, at least for gaming sessions!

over_clox@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 183d (18 replies)

Just use a picture of your dead grandpa, I'm sure he won't mind..

VonReposti@feddit.dk · 39 pts · 183d (2 replies)

I tried to do that, but some guy ran up to me and shouted something about "desecrating" and graves"

NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 183d

People really need to learn how to mind their own fucking business. Sheesh.

over_clox@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 183d

Just tell the dude you're refilling the grave, as you toss the bones back in...

ttyybb@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 183d (4 replies)

I figure ai probably knows what ai is looking for, so I'm just going to generate a fake selfie if I need to.

over_clox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 183d (2 replies)

Is it even looking for black and white / greyscale photos?

What if I give it a B&W of my own face? 🤔

ttyybb@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 183d (1 reply)

I assume they fixed it, but I heard a few months ago gmod models were working.

Willoughby@piefed.world · 7 pts · 183d

I am Heavy Weapons Guy, and this is my ID Verification.

rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 183d

Discord will be using video verification

SinningStromgald@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 183d (6 replies)

Should I dump the ashes out or leave them in the urn?

over_clox@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 183d (5 replies)

My dad wanted us to roll his ashes into a joint and smoke him.

We respected his wishes to be cremated, but I'm sorry daddy, I don't think anyone's gonna be smoking your ashes..

moonshadow@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 183d (4 replies)

Coward. I'll blaze your dad, hmu if he starts haunting you over this

over_clox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d (3 replies)

Umm, okay. I still have ashes available, you gotta roll it and smoke it yourself though..

moonshadow@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 183d (2 replies)

Haha I was just kidding, he probably was too. Genuinely down but it seems logistically tricky, if there's a haunting that needs addressed we can talk about flying me in then ;)

Have you seen "How High"?

over_clox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d (1 reply)

I was just joking too, but dad seriously said that, almost every time we had friends over and a doobie going around..

moonshadow@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 183d

He sounds like a cool guy. The bit's at least as old as cheech and chong, and the core premise of "How High" is gaining the knowledge of the dead by smoking their remains to pass college entrance exams. I used to tell the kids they should scrape my lungs for resin, here's Willie Nelson to elaborate the concept :)

Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 183d (2 replies)

They need a phoyo AND valid ID like drivers license

ttyybb@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 183d

I thought the articles were just listing both as options

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d

i can find norman reedus's drivers id with enough digging

istdaslol@feddit.org · 27 pts · 183d (6 replies)

My discord account is old enough to buy alcohol but yet they think I’m 13 because I play Minecraft to much while discord is open.

Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 183d (1 reply)

Right. I should be able to be common sensed through age verification at this point.

hector@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 183d

It's not about your age though, it's about getting your information, that's the entire problem. Don't let them tell you otherwise, they and the government are getting and keeping this information no matter what they tell you.

zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 183d (3 replies)

Your discord account is older than discord? How did you do that?

istdaslol@feddit.org · 7 pts · 183d (2 replies)

i mean, that if i made the account at age 13 and its now more than 5 years ago hence its of age. but that didnt roll of tounge that much so for the benefit of the joke omittet that nuance

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 5 pts · 183d (1 reply)

Also it makes no god damn sense.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 183d

sir this is a wendys

Alloi@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 183d (11 replies)

Matrix + Element.

It’s open source, decentralized (federated), supports voice/video, roles, persistent rooms, and you can self-host if you want full control. It’s basically the only thing that feels like a real discord replacement without being locked into one company’s servers.

Katana314@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 183d (3 replies)

I installed this yesterday and couldn’t find one room related to video games that had any chat messages in the past few years. I put a message in anyway, but not optimistic.

iridebikes@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 183d

We have to invade and propogate!

Alloi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 182d

be the change you wish to see in the world.

now is the perfect time to assist in this developing landscape and make into something we can actually call our own.

Don_Cannelloni@feddit.org · 2 pts · 183d

Same picture with FPV or vintage HiFi.

Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 6 pts · 183d (1 reply)

You can't order or group chats on Matrix.

TechieDamien@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 183d

Depends on the client. Nheko can group for example.

lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 183d (4 replies)

You mean to say XMPP (eg.: Snikket + Conversations), right?

Alloi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 182d (3 replies)

i like how light it is, but its just not sufficient for a 5 person DnD/gaming group like mine.

lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 182d (2 replies)

Not sufficient as in not sufficiently light? IRC (eg.: ngircd) is even lighter!

Alloi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 182d (1 reply)

no no, i mean not sufficient in the way that cant handle voice and video calls with a stable connection between multiple people.

we wanted a discord alternative that allowed us most or all of the features of discord for our DnD campaigns and streaming to one another. it just wasnt stable for more than two or three people. let alone five lol.

not dissing it though, light tools always have their place. its just difficult enough trying to explain to a passive group of 30+ year olds that discord is the devil and we need to own the means of communication without offering a smooth(ish) transition process with similar quality and features.

lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 182d

Oooh!

If it wasn't closed-source I'd actually recommend Teamspeak for that use case. Elsewise, of the ones I've known personally the stablest would be Mumble, but the problem is the clients.

It's also important to recall that if we want to look for alternatives we have to be very willing to look for stuff that's not Discord 1:1 because otherwise what would be the point. Plus, it's unfair of us to ask full equivalence from hobbyist developers to match what a corporation that is selling our data to ensure cash flow can do.

pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 183d (2 replies)

Yes! I'm joining "the young people"!

What do we do nowadays? Are we still tubular?

I think it'll be neato.

OpenStars@piefed.social · 15 pts · 183d

Such a hip cat, daddio.

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NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 183d

Hell yeah, dawg, that shit’s hella tight, fo rizzle.

demizerone@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 183d (1 reply)

I hope irc comes back.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 183d

irc never left, we just stopped using it

NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 183d

I fucking love Music/Band, those guys fuckin’ rip.

mika_mika@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 183d (4 replies)

I stood my ground on not using this useless software for like 10 years. If there was no in-game chat or voice I just didn't, but almost all games where that is necessary have it.

How validated I feel as it crumples.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 183d (3 replies)

i made an acct last week because my lesbian game night group decided to start a ToR clan. none of us are going to age verify, so i guess we're going to get a new app. if i can convince them.

moonshadow@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 183d (2 replies)

Are you a bad enough lesbian to set up matrix?

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 183d (1 reply)

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d

This is amazing. Especially out of context.

baropithecus@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 182d

JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 183d (4 replies)

Arent all of us 56 years old this year?

ptu@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 183d (2 replies)

I turned indeed 56 on Jan 1

ToaLanjiao@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 183d

What a coincidence! Me too!

moonshadow@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 183d

April 20th here

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 9 pts · 183d (4 replies)

Meanwhile, I have a 16-year-old son who plays Roblox a decent amount, they do facial scanning and then put you in groups based on their assessment. Or at least that is my understanding. Dude just turned 16 this week, but they put him in the over 21 category. Granted he does have a full beard and has a ridiculously deep voice, but he did at 14 just like I did. I'm not worried about him gaming with older people though, he doesn't really want to leave the house so he's not going to get raped by some predator, plus the 21+ crowd is generally more mature. And whatever they have to say, he's probably already heard it anyway. And I dare a predator to come here lol. They'd never find him.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 183d (2 replies)

they do facial scanning and then put you in groups based on their assessment.

That's....SO creepy.

doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 5 pts · 183d (1 reply)

It's fucking wild. I want to go back to 1999 when the N64 was the hot thing and the government wasn't tracking everything everyone does everywhere all the time.

Bullerfar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 182d

Thank you 9/11

hdsrob@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 182d

Granted he does have a full beard and has a ridiculously deep voice

Reminds me of my high school buddy that had a beard / deep voice, and looked just like his older brother. He would use his brother's old drivers license to buy beer and smokes for us.

zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 183d

Wouldn't mind being a teenager again. Ok, maybe not these days, but in general.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 7 pts · 183d

I backed up local copies of a couple of chats with some stuff I actually care about, using Tyrrrz DiscordChatExporter 2.43

SquirrelGirlLover@pawb.social · 7 pts · 183d

just use the broccoli from veggietales worked for me

FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 6 pts · 183d

Oh I thought we were taking discord out back…

Ookami38@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 183d

You can already pretend to be a kid in a room with other kids on discord! There's a HUGE CSAM problem on it.

Wolf314159@startrek.website · 3 pts · 183d

What's that? Is it like IRC with a GUI? /s

craigers@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d (2 replies)

I'm checking out fluxer but it's getting hug of death right now. Root also looks promising but they are closed source and VC backed which gives me pause.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 183d (1 reply)

closed source and VC backed

Basically a non-starter at this point.

Maybe used to be these startups would compete for user affections by being more benevolent.

But nowadays the bare basics of even being competitive in the business is having a plan for gaining critial mass and then rapidly enshittifying for revenue before selling your product users to some new private equity overlords.

Open source used to be more of just a preference, or a virtue. Now it's basically the only way to not guarantee your exploitation.

craigers@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 183d

100% agree. Just wish this was common understanding amongst the masses. But here I am on lemmy and not reddit, where most folks are aligned on FOSS or death.

SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 183d (1 reply)

switched straight to teamspeak

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 183d

that's the app we used playing dayz thank you i could not remember

sachamato@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 182d

Lol

RustyShackleford@programming.dev · 1 pts · 183d (2 replies)

I'm 42. My wife is 40. Are we too old for discord?

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 183d

Probably?

GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 182d

Until you give them your official government ID, you're 13 as far as discord is concerned