It's pretty ironic to have problems with audio not recognizing headphones... on WINDOWS.
Multi-trillion (10^12) dollar company, btw.
(Both laptops are reasonably new.)
...wasn't it supposed to be other way around?
It's pretty ironic to have problems with audio not recognizing headphones... on WINDOWS.
Multi-trillion (10^12) dollar company, btw.
(Both laptops are reasonably new.)
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cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de · 158 pts · 173d
Linux audio issues were common during the transition to PulseAudio, but that was almost 20 years ago now.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 50 pts · 173d
I was about to say... Maybe I've just been lucky, but I haven't had the slightest issue with Linux audio. Ever.
mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 173d
mint occasionally loses all sound devices on my media pc, but that's usually fixed with a reboot. and easy effects caused random sound lags, so i have to live without eq.
Kanda@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 171d
Mine too if it turns off the monitor and something happens (I suspect)when rediscovering the HDMI cable
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 35 pts · 173d
And they continued until the transition to Pipewire.
fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip · 14 pts · 173d
pipewire is so cool! It's so easy to set it up to sling to snapcast!
FishFace@piefed.social · 7 pts · 173d
[sobbing] I don't know what the fuck snapcast is, I just want sound to work!
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 172d
It's a pretty easy setup for turning all of your Linux devices into speakers for one studio stream.
Set up some raspberry pis, plug them into speakers around the house, hit a button on your phone, they're all playing synchronized music
FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 171d
Sounds expensive.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 171d
Have you got like, an old phone or laptop? And some old PC speakers? Then you've got surround sound.
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 173d
Agreed, it was the next step from pulseaudio. To say it wasnt problematic is incorrect, as it had many problems and needed a lot of manual intervention.
Nowadays, pipewire appears alot more stable, even with the compatibility layers for when stuff uses pulseaudio.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 173d
I've been using Linux as my main operating system since 2010 and can't recall having any audio issues. My desktop has 5 sound cards and they all work fine. I don't use bluethooth for audio, so I guess that makes things easier.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 173d
I guess you've just been lucky.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 173d
Or you've just been unlucky.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 173d
It's very common to have audio issues, in fact. Pipewire is seen as a golden age by many.
Ptsf@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 173d
Pipewire is my goat
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 172d
Time for curry
sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 173d
Bluetooth have been kinda crap but also HDMI audio devices have been buggy. Analog in/out (3.5mm) has always worked for me.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 172d
HDMI audio depends on a proprietary license. The Linux drivers for it are, predictably, less robust.
KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 173d
I've definitely had some on and off audio issues, nothing crazy usually solved by unplugging and replugging in the device.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 172d
I had a shortcut on my taskbar to terminate and reinitialize Pulse. It got used multiple times a day.
fadedmaster@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 172d
Hard to believe it's been that long already. Linux has come so far. I remember fighting with audio issues. The most frequent issue I remember having is not being able to have two different programs use the sound card at the same time. Haha. So no system sounds while listening to music.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 172d
Two programs not being able to use the sound card at the same time is what happens when you set a program to use an ALSA hw or plughw device instead of PulseAudio or PipeWire.
fadedmaster@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 172d
Back when I first started using Linux, PulseAudio was not yet a thing. Back then I was using Mandriva/Mandrake and Redhat (prior to switching to Enterprise).
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 83 pts · 173d
Yeah, but does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot? Huh?
Checkmate, linux nerds!
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 21 pts · 173d
Nope. If for some incredibly bonkers reason I actually wanted to use it, I'd have to actually -- gasp! -- go to a website and talk to it through a website interface, rather than an interface directly integrated into every goddamn app on my own computer. That's like ... two, maybe even three extra clicks!
(Seriously, though. If for some reason I wanted to talk to a chatbot, I could do that on the chatbot's website. Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?)
rtxn@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 173d
The rate at which every security practice is being torn down for the sake of clankers is giving me suicidal tendencies. Surely you will not regret giving the token-based randomness machine root access!
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 11 pts · 173d
And don't worry, the mega-corp that has constantly lied about things in the past promises that all the data from the integrated app that gets sent back to company HQ only gets used for training better chatbots (probably) (maybe) (possibly) (unless it's, like really good blackmail material). And every single thing you've ever typed into Notepad surely isn't just sitting there on a company server, waiting for a subpoena from an increasingly authoritarian government to gain access to...
(And, of course, that program you coded in Notepad? The fact that it was used to train Microsoft's next chatbot, which then went on to magically write code strikingly similar to yours to be integrated into the next Microslop project without notifying or compensating you in any way ... purely coincidental, of course. It's not stealing -- it's training. Running it through a chatbot first magically removes all copyright protection from your code.)
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 173d
That's why.
Its 'our' pc now, not 'your' pc.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 2 pts · 172d
Allegedly, they changed that because idiots were going to their work computer and expecting "My PC" to open the contents of their home computer.
Kanda@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 171d
We spent a lot of money on this chatbot. You should talk to it. Yes, in Notepad as well!
atropa@piefed.social · 7 pts · 173d
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 21 pts · 173d
It's Microslop's Artificial Idiocy
atropa@piefed.social · 4 pts · 173d
tal@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 173d
I imagine it's rephrased "Copilot".
atropa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 173d
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 173d
Oh the idiocy is very real
konomi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 76 pts · 173d
PipeWire (written by Wim Taymans) did a lot of good for the Linux distro ecosystem when it comes to audio.
0x0@infosec.pub · 17 pts · 173d
I remember the times before pipewire, not that fun.
Yet more fun than using microslops slop
FishFace@piefed.social · 2 pts · 173d
I will never forgive him and Fedora for rolling it out when it was a half-baked piece of shit though.
Zron@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 173d
The fun part about windows is you don’t know if it’s breaking because of the coke code from the 80’s or the vibe code from the ‘20s.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 173d
You forgot the Ballmer Peak code from the 00's
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 173d
Oh, yeah, cocaïne fuelled developers bouncing around. I'd forgotten about those.
Haquer@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 173d
Developers Developers Developers Developers
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 171d
COKE COKE COKE COKE
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 36 pts · 173d
On Windows audio cuts out every so often.
Also an update broke a driver a bit ago and I had to edit the registry to fix it.
Linux is my comfort OS, everything just works.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 173d
This exactly!
People who remember trying Linux 20 years ago look at me like I'm crazy. But Linux is so cozy, now!
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 33 pts · 173d
When you want to route your audio a certain way (let’s say audio recording/production or such)
Windows: oh sure, you just gotta download a shitty proprietary driver/program, get that to talk to your daw and from there on it’s…let’s hope it does what you wanna do.
Linux: You want routing options? Have some …(ALL the options)
pedz@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 173d
As someone that is using RTP to send audio from and to different Linux computers, this is unfortunately an option that is getting more difficult to use as time passes. A few years ago when pulseaudio was dominating, it was trivial to just tick a few boxes, enable RTP, see a lit of devices in pasystray, and choose it with a few clicks. Now since pipewire, this is no longer possible. Sure, RTP still works, but using the command line is now mandatory, as all the GUI options have disappeared.
I still find myself reinstalling pulseaudio on most of my computers running Linux because I need RTP audio and it's disappointing that it's getting harder and harder to get it to work on Linux.
MinFapper@startrek.website · 6 pts · 173d
Yeah they now expect you to use their native protocol for sharing audio on the network.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire#Sharing_audio_devices_with_computers_on_the_network
MsFlammkuchen@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 173d
I've never used pasystray. But I regularly use qpwgraph now since I switched to pipe wire. It's similar to the graph from qjackctl.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 172d
Any idea if Dante Virtual Soundcard supports Linux? I haven’t done any research on it, but I use a lot of audio-over-IP devices for work and all of them use the Dante protocol. It is definitely a “just open the program, tick a few boxes to route things from A to B, and everything works” solution.
pedz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 172d
It's proprietary software and it seems doubtful the company will port it to Linux. However it seems there's a workaround using AES67, or a reversed engineered implementation called teodly.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 172d
When I tried PulseAudio over network in addition to VNC I just got a really choppy unusable audio.
I just gave up and restored to streaming audio with VLC.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 172d
I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about, but win11 can control both input and output per application.
I often route my Pandora audio through my stereo while my default/games go through my computer speakers (or sometimes my headphones)
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 4 pts · 172d
Oh that’s a given, I’m talking about routing a signal through several pieces of hardware and/or software in a particular way.
For example: the drummer needs to hear a clicktrack and the bass, while the choir needs to hear the orchestra/themselves separate (and they want a little reverb). (Now take this and apply it to everyone on stage)
These kind of situations can get very complex and can get very high stakes.
For those matters in windows you rely on the software that comes with your hardware. Problem is those don’t always play nice together. Or they simply don’t offer the particular situation you need.
In Linux you can do anything you want. So much so that it sometimes adds unto the complexity.
rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 172d
Virutal Audio Cables, route audio output from OBS to Zoom/Meet as a microphone.
9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 173d
To be fair, a lot of bluetooth headphone problems i had on my work laptop was just microsoft teams.
luftruessel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 173d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 173d
To be fair, a lot of bluetooth headphone problems i had on my work laptop was just that other terrible Microslop product.
LostWanderer@fedia.io · 16 pts · 173d
LOL Yeah, I mean Linux has always had audio problems, but I find that I can solve Linux related ones mine faster than on Windows (when I used that garbage). The time it took grew smaller as my knowledge grew. Pulseaudio will randomly shit the bed and take Alsa with it. So about three terminal commands and 5 minutes later my sound is often repaired. It is weird that a billions of dollars sort of company can't get that shit right or make it a speedy fix at the very least. The troubleshooting tool would take fucking forever and often shit the bed. Touching the Powershell was cursed, but Linux made the terminal a blessed experience!
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 173d
I did IT for my company on the side of my job for a year or two.
Prolific problem where windows would disable the microphone but every single "windows tool" said it was working perfectly fine except teams would say it was not available.
The only possible fix that someone on the internet found was to download an old sketchy file from a 3rd party source for an archived version of their "pre-help-assistant AI slop" audio troubleshooter, and run that and it would immediately say "oh, it is disabled, let me re-enable it for you"
Even though every tool, setting, and even registry said it was enabled.
Microsoft has the worst audio.
LostWanderer@fedia.io · 1 pts · 173d
Oof, so it wasn't JUST a problem is in the chair situation for me. I really thought that it was simply me being too inept at the time to, figure it out immediately when on Windows. I'd eventually get it to work but that would require restoring a backup of when audio worked previously. As I didn't trust sketchy files, my experience having to fix our family PC due to...My parents downloading whatever looked cool, only for it to fill our hard drive with porn and slowing down the PC with too many processes that were collecting data or worse. ROFL
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 172d
Linux: "I am the non-janky OS now!"
dankm@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 172d
Hot take: There is not now, nor has there ever been, a non-janky OS.
Some Linux distributions are absolutely less janky than Windows at the moment, though, absolutely.
I haven't used a mac in a few years, but it was pretty jank-free the last time I tried it, but I'm certain the situation there has gotten worse.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 171d
Nah I'm on Sequoia on a maybe 3 or 4 year old MBP and it's still smooth as silk for me
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 173d
just got a new laptop and wanted to boot into windows once so i could make sure bitlocker was off and i had to go through 15 minutes of clicking decline on upsells for 365 vs clicking on install linux mint from the live usb and being yes install
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 172d
Setting up new laptops at work is similarly annoying even with every trick we keep up our sleeves. Naturally Microsoft does bypass some portion of that BS if you happen to be connecting to to an AD or Azure account because they don't want to completely piss off their core userbase
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 172d
First I tried Ubuntu. Then I tried Mint.
Two years later, still on Mint. It works, it doesn't spy on me, I'm good.
dankm@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 172d
Work requires Ubuntu. Still with Kubuntu. Works, doesn't spy on me.
Brothers.
debil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 172d
Debian, both at work and home.
Kids, you're doing alright.
ulterno@programming.dev · 4 pts · 172d
btw, Debian seems to be leaking maintainers and we need to do something about it, before a hostile takeover occurs.
debil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
Any source for this?
ulterno@programming.dev · 3 pts · 172d
This was what I was going off of.
https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/debian-linux-is-slowly-bleeding:6
There's also this now that I look into it, which you can base your own thoughts upon.
debil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
Thanks for the links!
Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 173d
So real. Never have audio issues on my Linux PC.
Meanwhile my company issue ThinkPad just doesn’t want to work with any Bluetooth audio input. I can’t take work calls from any other device either due to IT policy…
chillhelm@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 173d
I had issues with Bluetooth Audio once. 18 years ago on my first ever install on an IBM ThinkPad 600E that I had bought used with a USB Bluetooth dongle.
markstos@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 173d
Linux revoked my mic permissions in the middle of a call today, on Google Meet. Happened before on Zoom.
I have not root-caused it to see if there was flaky hardware or what.
markstos@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 173d
Ok, this prompted me to root-cause the issue. A bad cable between laptop and USB dock seems most likely. Hardware issue, not Linux!
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 9 pts · 173d
Most machines have issues with the headset headphones.
Windows, Mac, Linux.
Many headphones that are headsets will pair as a dual device with the crappy two way audio that sounds like you just connected to your cars Bluetooth from 2005x
savvywolf@pawb.social · 8 pts · 173d
Over the years, I've just come to accept that, no matter the OS, there are just some things computers suck at. Working with hardware is one of them.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 173d
I’m pretty sure working with software is the other.
pewpew@feddit.it · 8 pts · 173d
Back in 2021 I remeber I had several issues with bluethooth audio, now it just works as soon as I take my headphones out of the case (even tho KDE says Bluethooth is disabled everytime)
gigachad@piefed.social · 3 pts · 173d
My
SonySennheiser Momentum 4 always say loudly "No connection" after I connect them, but they are connected. It doesn't annoy me too much though.I use Mint btw
Johandea@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 173d
Sony momentum 4?
Surely you mean Sennheiser Momentum 4 or Sony WH-1000XM4?
gigachad@piefed.social · 3 pts · 173d
Sennheiser of course, thx
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 2 pts · 173d
Strange, Bluedevil has been working consistently for a while. What Plasma version are you running?
pewpew@feddit.it · 4 pts · 173d
I'm on 6.5 now.
In 2021 I was using a laptop with a different chipset, now I'm using one of those cheap USB Bluethooth dongles you find on Amazon for 5$
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · 1 pts · 173d
Ok that may be the reason. You can find M.2 modules from Intel or Qualcomm at reasonable price which support Bluetooth 5.4+
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 172d
My "win11" work laptop that used to have win10: "you guys can produce audio?"
deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 173d
I remember when I used to have audio problems all the time, including headphones literally just not even working somehow. Then I switched to Linux.
donker@anarchist.nexus · 7 pts · 173d
I mean honestly 😬 it still kinda sucks compared to Windows. Less problems on Windows vs my Linux laptop. Do they mean wired headphones? Because I use Fedora on my framework 13 and my bluetooth headphones just do not want to play sometimes. It works after some reconnecting and switching outputs. Or my bluetooth keyboard is just not connecting sometimes. And I have to "forget" it and re-pair it. Sometimes I think a lot of my colleagues or friends with Linux systems just get used to rolling with punches/issues because it feels better to be working on Linux. At least I don't have to click away stupid full screen Microsoft Account reminders etc.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 173d
If you're dual-booting, you need to sync the Bluetooth pairing keys between Windows and Linux.
donker@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 173d
Ha, I'm not dual booting :)
JetpackJackson@feddit.org · 6 pts · 173d
I remember using my Bluetooth headset on my windows 10 laptop would completely freeze the settings and volume menus... It was a really powerful laptop too... So bizarre
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 173d
Uh huh uh huh uh huh... call me when ALSAmixer is no longer needed to unmute the TOSLINK output on a new install because who the fuck knows why it's muted by default in ALSA and that setting is not surfaced anywhere in the UI.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 173d
What is any of this?
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 171d
Heh, so ALSA has kind of been the audio architecture for Linux distros since forever.
Pulse Audio was supposed to modernize audio for Linux and ultimately replace ALSA.
But last time I installed Linux on my desktop, I couldn't get audio output from my motherboard's TOSLINK S/PDIF port no matter which settings I changed in the GUI, uninstalled/reinstalled drivers and codecs and whatnot, etc.
Nothing made any difference until I eventually found some forum post which suggested using ALSAmixer to check the settings for various audio channels. ALSAmixer is not typically installed by default and not commonly used anymore, but it was the only tool that could unmute the digital audio output channel that served the TOSLINK port - that functionality was not present anywhere else in any of the configuration options. Pulse appeared to be in control of the system audio hardware, but in reality it was just sitting on top of and still relying on ALSA to handle the back end. Also, whoever set ALSA to mute some audio channels by default on a clean install... wtf dude, that shit just makes people think their hardware isn't properly supported and they have a driver issue.
The point being, ALSA was supposed to be deprecated years ago and all of the old audio issues resolved and modernized with a new architecture, but... I'll believe it when I see it, when whatever the new thing is actually proves itself to be an all-singing, all-dancing audio architecture. I've seen this rodeo before, and last time I checked it was still a clownshow.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 171d
Interesting. Thanks for explaining.
mlg@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 173d
I would make fun of you for using toslink but eARC is such a scam that I don't know why they didn't just bother to upgrade toslink anyway.
I think they're lying when they say it can't handle the bandwidth. It's a fricken fiber optic cable, just bump the transmitter.
ShankShill@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 173d
I had a Samsung TV and Samsung home theater in a box as my first 4k setup. The last update to the TV broke eARC.
Just wanted to throw out at every opportunity why I will not buy a Samsung anything.
pnelego@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
Why is eARC a scam? Doesn’t it carry higher audio bitrates than optical?
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 172d
So... what do you use for audio output on a desktop? Because I feed my monitor with the DisplayPort output from my graphics card, and I'm definitely not running a separate HDMI just for the audio signal. Even with 5.1 channel outputs, the 3.5mm audio on the motherboard is not up to the quality of the optical audio output, and besides that's 5 copper cables to run instead of one fiber. My soundbar has an optical input. The optical output is the only thing that makes sense.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 171d
I cannot get Linux mint Bluetooth to work anymore even with a good tp link dongle off my desktop. It skips or hiccups every minute.
I feel like it didn't do this a few months ago...not one thing I've done has fixed, and no one can help me. 🤒
argarath@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 171d
I've had this issue with my old Bluetooth buds because their batteries were dying. My new buds don't have any issues and it's on the same 2010 laptop running mint with the same Bluetooth adapter, maybe that's what's happening to you?
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 171d
Its actually to connect to a Bluetooth amp thats like 2ft away. Its a shared amp, friends PC is wired to it and I use BT in it. It never has BT issues with any other device, only my desktop. And I've tried 3 dongles. And did all the pipewire pulse stuff everyone said to. Nothing. Imagine a CD skip every minute or so, is what it does.
argarath@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
That's incredibly odd. Do you know where the Bluetooth antenna of your PC is? Maybe it's getting some signal blocking from a metal component that is between the antenna and the amp? That's the only other idea I have, because I seen to recall something about Bluetooth having this tendency to "accumulate" errors until it just skips to try and catch up after it got too many bad signals, but I can't guarantee this is just some slop my brain came up on it's own trying to figure out your issue
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 167d
Its a tp link dongle plugged in the back. Probably like 2 ft from the reciever amp.
I don't recall it doing this a few months ago either. I've done updates since then but can't point to what caused it..
Yeah maybe I should time it and see if the skips come like every minute or if its random.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 163d
One thing I tested today, it does the skipping this exactly 1 minute apart every time...hmm
argarath@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 163d
What if there's something else blasting lots of signal around the same frequency of Bluetooth (2.5mHz?) trying to pair with another device? I don't know why else your Bluetooth buds would be skipping at such a precise interval, as I think that they would have some variation in the amount buffered depending on how much data per second is being transmitted
quips@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 171d
Little problems like this are what makes me hesitate from switching full time.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 171d
Well if I'm fair, everything else has been an absolute joy and made me love computers again. So don't let my issue stop you!!
I absolutely can do everything faster and better on my Linux desktop than I ever could with windows, and I love learning, so that's a big plus.
There are far more things I care about other than my Bluetooth issue. Wires exist, its not a big deal to plug in. I do wish it worked, but I'm sure I'll fix it someday.
Zelaf@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 173d
Where is this meme from?
janNatan@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 173d
The movie "Legally Blonde." Reese Witherspoon's character gets into Harvard to be closer with the male, her ex.
He, astonished, asks for clarification if she got into Harvard, and she responds with the bottom text.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 172d
What does this mean? I've never had this problem on windows...
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 172d
On Windows 10, it is not possible to have different audio volumes for left and right. The control exists in the UI but does not work, both channels move in sync when you change them.
S0UPernova@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 171d
On mine I can also use different outputs at the same time, so I can for example have a video playing through speakers while game audio plays through my headphones. ... I haven't really taken advantage of it, but it is pretty neat.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 173d
Ha!
My work laptop is mandated win11.
I have working headphones.
I have working headphones set that go through a dock and through a KVM and through 20 feet of USB and three chained hubs between said laptop and my earballs.
They also switch beautifully over to the Nobara (fedora) I've installed, and even back to this ancient ring-fenced win7 physical I have.
Hell; I only had issues last year because I got a janky USB extension and the Dell cube dock is a piece of actual shit and the two couldn't cope.
What do I win with a ugreen usb3 sound dev and an apple 3.5mm earpods headphones plugged in? I mean, aside from a working comms rig.
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 171d
i'm just amazed that under w10 i was able to change my audio output device without issues meanwhile in w11 after digging into the taskbar you pick an audio output and IT DOESNT DO SHIT IT DOESNT CHANGE AT ALL YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT BACK AND FORTH UNTIL THE SPIRIT OF WINDOWS ELEVEN DECIDES YOU ARE WORTHY
Padit@feddit.org · 5 pts · 173d
Literally, neither my PC screen works, nor does the download version of spotify work on my Win11 PC. Literally unusable garbage... Long live ubuntu for just doing what i tell it to do.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
Unfortunately I do have headphone issues with Linux, but it's just a bit of silence when unpausing VLC.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 173d
Are you using pulseaudio? Could be module suspend on idle (link is blocked for me, might work for you): https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules/#module-suspend-on-idle
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 172d
Aha! I knew that complaining online might get me answers that searching wasn't getting me. I'll try tonight
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 171d
Wish you luck!
obinice@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 173d
I'm sure Linux is great with headphones too, but is there really a widespread issue with them in Windows?
Obviously it's not difficult to "recognise" a headset plugged into the 3.5mm jack, so I'm presuming the author means Bluetooth.
In general, I've been very impressed with the improved audio system and controls between Win10 & 11, it needed a big upgrade and we got it. Similarly, Bluetooth UI and ease of use has shot up too. The old Bluetooth UI was awful.
I use various Bluetooth audio devices daily, as well as 3.5mm audio stuff, and have various needs for routing and altering audio with virtual audio cables, etc, and it all works flawlessly for me.
I'm just one person though, not really a great sample size!
Anyway, I'm surprised to hear there's a widespread issue with Bluetooth audio in Windows 11, given how standardised and widely used everything is these days. You'd think that'd be ironed out reasonably quickly, lest hundreds of millions of people struggle :-(
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 173d
the issue for me comes when I want to use the same headphones on more than one device and windows has suddenly never met this fellow in its life before
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 173d
Idk, this is just a personal experience meme
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 173d
The most widespread issue with headphones on Windows is that you'd be having Windows.
imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 173d
My team mate at work has an issue with his headphones at least a couple times a week. We'll be talking and his mic cuts out, or he can't hear anymore, or whatever. Windows 11 laptop.
I put fedora on my work laptop and never have issues, except with teams. Stupid microslop horseshit.
bonenode@piefed.social · 4 pts · 173d
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org · 0 pts · 173d
I have some bad news, they never worked like that, because bluetooth profiles suck ass. I bet your memory of them working in the past used the laptop mic.
Either that or some aptx nonsense.
bonenode@piefed.social · 2 pts · 173d
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 173d
If you've ever had non-sucky audio + microphone from bluetooth headphones I'd love to know the brand.
bonenode@piefed.social · 2 pts · 173d
Muffi@programming.dev · 4 pts · 173d
I have two nice speakers in my office, that have to be connected using aux. My shitty Windows work laptop only has USB-C, so the aux is plugged into a little converter thingy. It sometimes crashes the fuck out, and plays white noise at max volume until replugged. Tried the same setup from my private laptop running NixOS. Absolutely no issues at all.
CaptKoala@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 172d
I've been having to lean on my (now deactivated due to declining upgrade) win10 install to get around a couple games anticheat, for games I can play solo. Wild.
The amount of shit that "just (doesn't) works" is astounding after having had to do nothing more than reboot to fix something busted for years since I switched to mint.
desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 171d
right now the only thing keeping me on linux is fortnite and it's not even that fun but my buddies wanna play w me
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 173d
Admitely, my cheap bluetooth in-ear manages to crash bluetoothd now and then.
eletes@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 173d
Dell laptop at a fortune 500. They locked USB and audio down hard on these laptops. Flahsdrives don't work unless you get an approved dongle. Wired headphones only allow either the mic or headphone output to be working, never both. So I end up using the laptop mic and headphone output.
But Bluetooth is fair game and everything works just fine there 🙃
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 172d
You raise a good point and everybody rage commenting really doesn't help - I wonder if they're using the analog sockets or USB devices?
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 172d
is it time for a Windows edition of the classic Jamiroquai sound meme?
Damarus@feddit.org · 3 pts · 173d
That's a driver thing, so it's wrong to blame Windows for this, when the drivers probably aren't even made by Microsoft.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 173d
Why would standard Bluetooth audio profiles need some specialty drivers?
Damarus@feddit.org · 2 pts · 173d
Right, I assumed we're talking about jack sensing
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
I doubt it even more that the ‘audio plug is connected’ event is reliant on software.
Damarus@feddit.org · 1 pts · 173d
Then believe me it is
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
Hm? Why would it be?
Afaik wired audio is a solved problem since the introduction of the AC'97 standard in, fittingly, 1997. Which, as it happens, relies on an audio controller that sits between the hardware and the OS. Major OSes have been shipped with standard drivers for AC'97 support for the past twenty-nine years or thereabouts.
This leads me to believe that the OP is talking about Bluetooth, still rather wonky between different software stacks.
COASTER1921@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 173d
I can't say I've had a great time with audio in either personally, though it's indeed much easier to fix audio problems in Linux. But just yesterday pipewire must have hung or crashed preventing all browser based video playback entirely, which due to the symptoms not appearing audio related was quite annoying to debug. I still have no idea what caused it in order to avoid it happening again in the future.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 3 pts · 173d
Between my Linux laptop, my window gaming computer, and my apple work laptop I never have audio issues.
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 173d
f you have wired or properly standards compliant bluetooth headphones it works fine on both.
If you have (cheapo) non-compliant stuff it's a crapshoot on both, but there's more likely some drivers to make up the difference on windows, whereas on linux you're deep diving obscure crap, it can be done, but is it really worth the effort?
If it's musical instruments, especially midi, you're often better off on linux these days, but you might have to pay for a DAW and some commercial plugins are hit or miss.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 2 pts · 173d
The entire volume control and Bluetooth connection management in Windows is an insane pile of garbage that seems deliberately hard to navigate and frequently doesn't work for no apparent reason. Which is wild because they could have just not changed it at all since it used to be fine.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 172d
The underlying architecture for Windows has changed like three times since those systems were created. The fact it works at all is a minor miracle.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 173d
I run Ubuntu on a laptop that isn't officially supported by Ubuntu (Thinkbook 16 G7) and it works better than W11
HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 173d
Not a high bar to pass. Ubuntu installed on a dead rat's brain would run better than Windows11 on anything.
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 173d
Windows keep re-enabling my second monitor after I disabled it, I had to disconnect video cable but in Linux it work just fine (dual boot)
Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 171d
This is also my experience with the xbox wireless adapter.
Xow third party drivers tell you exactly what is happening or not happening.
Windows help page: whatever the issue, reinstall the drivers and hope that fixed it after a restart. Not a single way to diagnose.
Retail4068@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 173d
Simping pipe wire ... That's a choice.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 173d
I'm simping pipewire all day, that shit works flawless and is a godsend after years of pulse.
forestbeasts@pawb.social · 1 pts · 172d
Yeah, Pipewire is pretty great IMO.
People love to go "you hate on Systemd/Wayland? you just HATE PROGRESS!!", but like, no, new stuff itself isn't the problem and this proves that. Pipewire doesn't seem to be all that controversial, I don't really see anyone hating on it, or people going "YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT IT!!!".
-- Frost
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 173d
90s moment
Ah yes, let's stop sexism with sexism
DivineDev@piefed.social · 1 pts · 173d
Way ahead of you, my audio sometimes does not work on Linux OR Windows! (I tried troubleshooting for so long, it feels like it's an 80% chance to work just fine and I just restart if it doesn't)
JargonWagon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 172d
I wish I could fix my audio issues with Retroarch on SteamOS, I can't get any audio to play even in the menus for RetroArch TT_TT
KeenFlame@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 172d
It flipped a good while ago. Win 8 I think
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de · -4 pts · 173d
The fuck of wanky-ass Windows installs are you guys running that you'd have audio issues?
Let me guess, you guys ran some weird script you found online that promised to delete all the anti-privacy features without checking what it actually did, and fucked up the whole OS so you can cirklejerk around on Linux forums complaining about Windows?
Want to bet if you did a fresh install of Windows without all the workarounds you seem to need, it will just work?
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 172d
Had a fun one on a school managed laptop when I went back to school a couple of years ago. Windows got a broken driver release for one of the Realtek audio chipsets added to their driver repository, and literally every one of the laptops pulled down this updated driver and lost all ability to output sound. School's IT (I had a couple of friends working on their IT at this time) had a heck of a time trying to get it set to roll back and pin the driver on every impacted computer, and when I most recently reinstalled Windows following graduation and gaining ownership of this laptop I had to re-apply this workaround because Microsoft still hadn't changed the driver version in their repository over a year later
To be entirely fair, some portion of the fault probably lies with Realtek, and this could've been avoided by selecting a device with a better audio chipset, but the point still stands that the default state is still slightly very broken
fishy@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 173d
Lol we're all talking about the locked down shit windows laptops work provides. Mine is totally fine except audio sounds like shit. You can understand speech just fine but music sounds like it's coming through a tin can with a string.