We already lost. Trump got bullied/suckered by Israel into this mess without a clearly defined American win scenario. Israel has one and they are getting it. The US does not, because Trump is weak and catastrophically dumb, ignorant, narcissistic, and incompetent.
We... can't intercept too many missiles without those.
They're like $1.5 billion USD each, roughly adjusted for inflation.
And... I think there were only like, 12 of these things, total. Anywhere. As of a week ago.
We reportedly have been trying to take away the one we use in South Korea, to redeploy it.
This is ... beyond completely tits up.
Trump is saying the US Navy will just escort any willing vessel through the Strait of Hormuz.
And... what, we're gonna use all our fleet defensive systems, to .... shoot down the missiles that Iran can build 10x faster than we can build interceptors?
Taiwan is now completely fucked, if anyone hasn't figured that out yet, we will now almost certainly not have enough missiles to repel an invasion from the PLAN and PLAAF.
This is... extremely bad situation, if you are generally a fan of yourself and other people not dieing a violent death.
They are of course downplaying the certainty of it, which I am... skeptical of, I think they did at the very least try or plan to, but, I also cannot yet find an actual confirmation that it is being redeployed.
The United States has been moving parts of its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) anti-missile system from South Korea to the Middle East, the Washington Post reported, citing two officials.
The reported movement of parts of a THAAD missile defense system comes amid media reports that the U.S. military stationed in South Korea has shipped out some of its military assets amid an intensifying war in the Middle East.
"The Pentagon is moving parts of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system from South Korea to the Middle East," the report said.
The United States, engaged in a war with Iran, has begun relocating part of its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system deployed in South Korea to the Middle East, the Washington Post (WP) reported on the 9th (local time), citing two U.S. Department of Defense officials.
The South Korean THAAD system appears to be being at least partially dismantled and redeployed.
The Korean government has expressed its opposition to the transfer of some U.S. Forces Korea (USFK) air defense weapons to the Middle East, President Lee Jae Myung said Tuesday, but stressed that the move will not weaken the country’s deterrence against North Korea.
Speaking at the beginning of a Cabinet meeting in Cheong Wa Dae, Lee addressed the growing debate over reports that some U.S. air defense batteries stationed in Korea have been transferred abroad.
“We have expressed opposition to USFK transferring some air defense weapons according to its own military needs, but it is also the reality that we cannot fully enforce our position,” the president said.
“If you ask whether this creates serious obstacles for our deterrence strategy against North Korea, I can say with certainty that it does not,” he said.
I mean uh, pressing X to Doubt on that last part, obviously you would say "Don't worry, everything is fine," ... but yeah, we, the US, appear to be using the South Korean system for parts, and SK President Lee says he can't stop us from doing so.
Meanwhile, Trump is utterly losing his shit, and in, what, less than two weeks?, has gone from 'we are going to let Iran liberate itself' to 'we will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back as a nation'.
If Iran does anything that stops the flow of Oil within the Strait of Hormuz, they will be hit by the United States of America TWENTY TIMES HARDER than they have been hit thus far. Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen! This is a gift from the United States of America to China, and all of those Nations that heavily use the Hormuz Strait. Hopefully, it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
... back when Trump did Midnight Hammer, the strike against the nuclear sites in Iran, I compared him to Kefka... evil whiny clown.
Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen!
This is completely insane. This is the logic of an abusive husband, but directly applied to 10s of millions of people, applied by a man with hundreds to thousands of nuclear weapons.
Flight trackers detected the Boeing E-6B Mercury, a U.S. aircraft used for nuclear command and control, flying over the Gulf of Mexico on March 9, 2026. The military uses the aircraft, often called a “doomsday plane,” as an airborne backup command center if ground systems fail. Observers often interpret its appearance on public flight trackers as a signal that the U.S. nuclear deterrent remains active.
...
Its main purpose is to send secure messages to submarines carrying ballistic missiles. Communicating with submarines is difficult because they operate deep under the ocean, where normal radio signals cannot easily travel through seawater.
... To overcome this challenge, the E-6B Mercury uses very low frequency radio signals that can reach submarines while they remain submerged. The aircraft deploys long trailing wire antennas during flight to transmit these signals. This system ensures submarines remain connected to command authorities and continue to serve as a highly survivable part of the nuclear deterrent.
Flight-tracking data has captured multiple launches of the Navy's E-6B Mercury strategic airborne command aircraft since the war in Iran began, the Daily Mail reported.
Two E-6B Mercury flights were spotted over the US on March 2, one travelling from the Gulf Coast and landing at Naval Air Station Patuxent River in Maryland, and the other taking off and later landing back at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, according to the Daily Mail.
Since those flights, there have been reports from military news outlets of more E-6B launches heading across the Atlantic to the Persian Gulf.
If we do not stop this demented idiot and his regime, we will responsible for destroying the world as we know it.
It's pretty sad that the world is at a point where Canadians can feel relieved that the US is bombing Iran because it takes the heat off themselves for a little while...
When the world police run out of resources, they're unable to police the world anymore and others who have smartly withheld resources will move in on coveted targets.
its also giving china big looks at the US's current weaknesses with their huge toys that cant account for millions of flying toy planes with grenades self guiding themselves into them. US was built on big power projection but it is expensive as shit and the rapist pissed off of their allies. China could do a lot of damage, whether that is enough to take taiwan 🤷♂️ but it would be expensive as hell and be a lot more things for new coral reefs to build from
Shock and awe is the terminology on how the USA military works. Dazzle them with military might in hopes they surrender early because long term we may not have the troops for it. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see conscription in the USA from the concentration camps.
Well, the difference being that the Iranian strategy is to attack things that can attack them, or people they care about.
And obviously it is non nuclear.
If Iran does have any 'nuclear' capacity, it would be dirty bombs, not.... actual, proper, thermonuclear bombs/warheads.
The Israel strategy is to intentionally take out friend, foe, in between, with full-on thermonuclear weapons, to simply maximize chaos and maximize the chance of basically secondary retaliatory nuclear strikes against as many other targets as possible.
Goad the world into destroying itself, get other people to do most of the work for them.
... See how that's kind of a recurring pattern?
If you are unfamiliar with the story of Samson from the Old Testament / Torah:
Samson, a supernaturally strong warrior, is captured by the Philistines, his magic hair that gives him superhuman strength is shorn off, his eyes are put out.
But, in his despair, he repents his sins, and God gives him his supernatural strength back.
Samson, while being paraded and mocked in the Philistine royal court, finds the support beams to the whole building, and shakes them so hard that the entire building collapses, killing himself and everyone else in the Philistine royal court.
It was peaceful for 800 years under Ottoman rule. Jews and arabs got along just fine under muslim rule. Saying its always been a mess is zionist propoganda.
Some are saying that this is a brilliant tactic by Trump. They took Venezuela, where China gets much of their oil, and now we've blocked Hormuz, where China gets the rest of its oil. They think this will crush China.
But China still has about a 100 day reserve. When that runs out, they will do something to get leverage for more oil - like take Taiwan. They need the oil, we need the chips. We've always worried about them taking Taiwan, and now Trump is going to force their hand with his "brilliant" chess playing.
Back when MAGA 2.0.was starting, and the Wrestling Bitch (I'm being nice) took over as Secty of Destruction of Education, and she did an interview where she kept saying that the standards at the Dept of Ed were going to be A-1, and eventually it was clear that she had read something about AI being used, but since she had never heard of AI, because she's stupid, she thought it meant A-1, and proceeded to demonstrate just how stupid she really is.
"I'm sorry, you are totally right! Bombing Iran was a mistake. I will keep that in mind in future conversations.
What would you like to discuss next? Whether planning a new golf course to build in Gaza, drafting a proposal for a larger-than-life-sized golden statue of yourself to go as a centerpiece for your ballroom, or brainstorming ways to distract the news cycle from the Epstein files, my circuits are warmed up and ready to assist you! ⚡🤖🧠 beep boop"
I'm not advocating it. They just seem removed enough from the hot conflicts at the moment to weather the coming moment. If the discussion about this+Venezuela being a pincer move targeting China's oil supply pans out and/or they move on Taiwan, I guess that could change.
China has geographical problems that hamstring it against American Empire.
Until/unless they build a blue water navy that can blockade America or an alliance system that can shut us out of the indo-pacific, they are fucked in a straight up conflict.
It was a power grab. The US intervened softly to stop the growth of the third Reich into a hegemon, funding Britain, France, and the Soviet Union.
When Japan hit Pearl harbor Roosevelt was forced to war and honestly he and his team were probably itching to get in there are flex American power to shape events directly. Truman finished things out trying to box in the soviets once it was clear the allies were gonna win.
Americans born in the 40s and 50s had such a gilded path set out before them by WW2, and now they think that young people can't afford homes because of starbucks and avocado toast.
The empire of Japan did fairly well after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.
The empire of Japan also did great after WW1 come to think of it.
The states did enjoy the Spanish–American war result.
Really kinda requires a strange mind or a willfully ignorant one to not recognize that wars often have winners and that is a reason they keep happening.
Ww2 turned the US into the world's premier power. In 1945 half the world's GDP was in the United States and the US Navy was larger than the rest of the wold's navies combined.
That all actually started after World War 1, to be honest.
It was during the first world war that all of the European powers spent literally all their money fighting each other, with both sides then reaching out to the United States for loans to continue fighting each other, which America was of course happy to oblige.
The repayment of those loans constituted the largest transfer of wealth in human history from Europe to the Americas, setting the stage for the American war machine to be completed prior to world war two.
Hard to imagine only half of the Arabian Peninsula or just a minor sliver of the Levant would be enough. "We're here, why isn't it ours" seems like the Israeli motto.
Their farcical claim has been pretty visible for a while now: they need not only the land they consider sacred and theirs but also a security buffer around it. If pressed, they will explain how a security buffer is not just an arbitrary distance of land but possession of key surrounding geographic positions. And that requires them to go all the way to THIS map.
Their acquisition of the Golan Heights set the template for this. Israel used to enjoy saying that they never started any of the conflicts, but even then they would admit that they annexed the Golan proactively because of its strategic positioning and key water sources in the area.
Clearly they won’t be talking about how they never started any of the conflicts anymore. They think they have more to gain than lose by letting that claim go.
Okay, well in that case all their neighbors need a security buffer too, which includes the key geographic position of their entire country.
See how easy it is to make bullshit claims when you're a fucking sociopathic narcissist who doesn't understand or care that other people's needs are just as valid as your own, and that you can't just take things that aren't yours just because you want it?
Children understand this, but apparently the knesset doesn't. It would be pathetic if it wasn't so close to getting the entire world blown up...
While everyone is looking the other way, they move the borders. Once again. A little bit of this, a little bit of that. Gotta do it while the guy whom they can blackmail with epstein videos is in power.
Classic Israeli tactic. Big mate allowed to feel like the tough guy, whilst the little shits do something sneaky and nasty whilst the world looks elsewhere.
Three countries (and more really) tried to do exactly that, and they have still not recovered
Their militaries are woefully inadequate, they can't compete with US/Israeli doctrine directly
There are many reasons why, "top heavy" is simplest explanation; rank and file are afraid of their superiors (rightly so), so they withhold and misrepresent unfortunate news.
This makes modern military operations that depend on adaptability, communication, and coordination very difficult.
Man, Israel really turned from victims of fascism to fascists themselves, bent on conquering everything they can.
Now they're hell bent on expansion, how well did that go again in the past?
The only reason they've been able to do this shit so far is because now we haveore fascists again. Hello trump, you. The only way this stops is when people, countries, start standing up and start fucking giving Israel the finger.
Fuck that "but wewe poow jews, wemembew jews and how we were treated??!!!". Fuck that shit, that was nearly a 100 years ago and pretty much nobody has forgotten except for Israeli Jews. Those that should have been the first to remember were the first to forget. This has NOTHING to do with anti semitism, this is anti fascism. Israël is a fascist state.
I can't believe people are still in denial. You have the world biggest superpower simultaneously attacking several countries and threatening to attack all their closest neighbors.
It does no good to fight if you have no realistic way to win. They didn't have the resources to challenge Israel before the war with Iran started and now they're in an even worse position. They have two roles - as an irregular branch of Iran's military and as a power within Lebanon, and they've chosen to prioritize the former and fight a losing battle at the expense of the latter (and at the expense of Lebanese people with no particular sympathy for Iran who don't want to be involved in this).
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gibmiser@lemmy.world · 210 pts · 166d
Man, I really hate being on the Axis side. I hope we lose.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 118 pts · 166d
We already lost. Trump got bullied/suckered by Israel into this mess without a clearly defined American win scenario. Israel has one and they are getting it. The US does not, because Trump is weak and catastrophically dumb, ignorant, narcissistic, and incompetent.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 44 pts · 166d
We... we lost two THAAD radar arrays, already.
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/irgc-destroys-second-us-thaad-system-uae-radar-qatar-early-warning-iran-missile-dominance/
We... can't intercept too many missiles without those.
They're like $1.5 billion USD each, roughly adjusted for inflation.
And... I think there were only like, 12 of these things, total. Anywhere. As of a week ago.
We reportedly have been trying to take away the one we use in South Korea, to redeploy it.
This is ... beyond completely tits up.
Trump is saying the US Navy will just escort any willing vessel through the Strait of Hormuz.
And... what, we're gonna use all our fleet defensive systems, to .... shoot down the missiles that Iran can build 10x faster than we can build interceptors?
Taiwan is now completely fucked, if anyone hasn't figured that out yet, we will now almost certainly not have enough missiles to repel an invasion from the PLAN and PLAAF.
This is... extremely bad situation, if you are generally a fan of yourself and other people not dieing a violent death.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 166d
They're moving at least one from S Korea to replace one of the destroyed ones. Hopefully it gets blown up too.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 166d
Found a link:
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260304/iran-war-raises-prospect-of-shifting-usfk-assets-to-middle-east
They are of course downplaying the certainty of it, which I am... skeptical of, I think they did at the very least try or plan to, but, I also cannot yet find an actual confirmation that it is being redeployed.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 166d
That's fucked. Kim Jong Un probably has a boner reading about this
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 161d
Double post, but...
Its confirmed.
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260310/us-moving-parts-of-thaad-anti-missile-system-from-s-korea-to-middle-east-report
https://www.chosun.com/english/world-en/2026/03/10/MSS6VLC4ARGEZPD6W7NJNFJ344/
The South Korean THAAD system appears to be being at least partially dismantled and redeployed.
... against the wishes of South Korea.
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260310/s-korea-regrets-transfer-of-usfk-air-defense-assets-to-middle-east-lee-says
I mean uh, pressing X to Doubt on that last part, obviously you would say "Don't worry, everything is fine," ... but yeah, we, the US, appear to be using the South Korean system for parts, and SK President Lee says he can't stop us from doing so.
Meanwhile, Trump is utterly losing his shit, and in, what, less than two weeks?, has gone from 'we are going to let Iran liberate itself' to 'we will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back as a nation'.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116202054617775180
... back when Trump did Midnight Hammer, the strike against the nuclear sites in Iran, I compared him to Kefka... evil whiny clown.
This is completely insane. This is the logic of an abusive husband, but directly applied to 10s of millions of people, applied by a man with hundreds to thousands of nuclear weapons.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/us-military-operates-e-6b-mercury-mission-to-maintain-nuclear-triad-communications-during-emergencies/ar-AA1XNCv9
https://www.wionews.com/world/trump-deploys-doomsday-nuclear-command-planes-to-west-asia-amid-ww3-fears-1773071562944
If we do not stop this demented idiot and his regime, we will responsible for destroying the world as we know it.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 166d
They're not only squandering their position as a global leader and the good will of our allies, but the military might and defensive capabilities too.
They're literally going to make the continental US vulnerable to attack by wasting so many resources in this pointless war of aggression.
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 165d
Being in Canada, I'm feeling so much relief now. My fear of dying soon isn't entirely gone, but I'm feeling more hopeful.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 165d
It's pretty sad that the world is at a point where Canadians can feel relieved that the US is bombing Iran because it takes the heat off themselves for a little while...
Yliaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
How does Taiwan fit into all of this?
redwattlebird@thelemmy.club · 8 pts · 166d
When the world police run out of resources, they're unable to police the world anymore and others who have smartly withheld resources will move in on coveted targets.
Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 166d
its also giving china big looks at the US's current weaknesses with their huge toys that cant account for millions of flying toy planes with grenades self guiding themselves into them. US was built on big power projection but it is expensive as shit and the rapist pissed off of their allies. China could do a lot of damage, whether that is enough to take taiwan 🤷♂️ but it would be expensive as hell and be a lot more things for new coral reefs to build from
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 166d
Shock and awe is the terminology on how the USA military works. Dazzle them with military might in hopes they surrender early because long term we may not have the troops for it. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see conscription in the USA from the concentration camps.
hietsu@sopuli.xyz · 42 pts · 166d
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 166d
If Israel is around in 100 years I'll eat my shorts. They're speedrunning being turned into a crater
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 166d
Israel's nuclear doctrine is the Samson Doctrine.
Basically, if they get nuked... they nuke Moscow, European capitals, anyone and everyone they can reach.
So.... yeah...
Its literally 'kill everyone'.
Yliaster@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
How the heck does the world "negate" or oppose Israel with the Samson Option running around?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 166d
Good question!
... We may unfortunately be about to find out.
BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 166d
So, basically what Iran does now, but with nukes?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 166d
Well, the difference being that the Iranian strategy is to attack things that can attack them, or people they care about.
And obviously it is non nuclear.
If Iran does have any 'nuclear' capacity, it would be dirty bombs, not.... actual, proper, thermonuclear bombs/warheads.
The Israel strategy is to intentionally take out friend, foe, in between, with full-on thermonuclear weapons, to simply maximize chaos and maximize the chance of basically secondary retaliatory nuclear strikes against as many other targets as possible.
Goad the world into destroying itself, get other people to do most of the work for them.
... See how that's kind of a recurring pattern?
If you are unfamiliar with the story of Samson from the Old Testament / Torah:
Samson, a supernaturally strong warrior, is captured by the Philistines, his magic hair that gives him superhuman strength is shorn off, his eyes are put out.
But, in his despair, he repents his sins, and God gives him his supernatural strength back.
Samson, while being paraded and mocked in the Philistine royal court, finds the support beams to the whole building, and shakes them so hard that the entire building collapses, killing himself and everyone else in the Philistine royal court.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 166d
Fucking psychopaths. The embodiment of evil...
hietsu@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 166d
kreskin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 165d
It was peaceful for 800 years under Ottoman rule. Jews and arabs got along just fine under muslim rule. Saying its always been a mess is zionist propoganda.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 166d
Some are saying that this is a brilliant tactic by Trump. They took Venezuela, where China gets much of their oil, and now we've blocked Hormuz, where China gets the rest of its oil. They think this will crush China.
But China still has about a 100 day reserve. When that runs out, they will do something to get leverage for more oil - like take Taiwan. They need the oil, we need the chips. We've always worried about them taking Taiwan, and now Trump is going to force their hand with his "brilliant" chess playing.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 165d
but he has AI!
or, A1.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 165d
Back when MAGA 2.0.was starting, and the Wrestling Bitch (I'm being nice) took over as Secty of Destruction of Education, and she did an interview where she kept saying that the standards at the Dept of Ed were going to be A-1, and eventually it was clear that she had read something about AI being used, but since she had never heard of AI, because she's stupid, she thought it meant A-1, and proceeded to demonstrate just how stupid she really is.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 165d
Steak sauce!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 165d
"I'm sorry, you are totally right! Bombing Iran was a mistake. I will keep that in mind in future conversations.
What would you like to discuss next? Whether planning a new golf course to build in Gaza, drafting a proposal for a larger-than-life-sized golden statue of yourself to go as a centerpiece for your ballroom, or brainstorming ways to distract the news cycle from the Epstein files, my circuits are warmed up and ready to assist you! ⚡🤖🧠 beep boop"
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 165d
Doesn't China still have access to Russian oil? Or does it go through the Strait of Hormuz too?
ameancow@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 166d
daannii@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 166d
No body is going to win this. Everyone loses.
capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
Not true! The uber rich win...
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 166d
idk even that long term.
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 165d
Generally agree, but if China plays their hand well, they could do alright/ lead the following century.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 165d
Its been pretty shitty under the US, I dont want to live under china's leadership either
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 165d
I'm not advocating it. They just seem removed enough from the hot conflicts at the moment to weather the coming moment. If the discussion about this+Venezuela being a pincer move targeting China's oil supply pans out and/or they move on Taiwan, I guess that could change.
Triasha@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 165d
China has geographical problems that hamstring it against American Empire.
Until/unless they build a blue water navy that can blockade America or an alliance system that can shut us out of the indo-pacific, they are fucked in a straight up conflict.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 165d
I hope that we do an Itlay
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 166d
Hmmm. This is the Evil side.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 166d
US is doing an evil playthrough.
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 165d
We've always been doing an evil playthrough.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 165d
Sometimes america does something right. Normally someone else is doing something way worse though. Holocaust stopping is good points in my book.
TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 165d
I think it was Churchill who said the Americans will do the right thing after they've exhausted all other options.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 157d
Something that really seems fitting nowadays
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 165d
We basically only did it to stop the great depression, though, not for altruistic reasons.
Triasha@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d
It was a power grab. The US intervened softly to stop the growth of the third Reich into a hegemon, funding Britain, France, and the Soviet Union.
When Japan hit Pearl harbor Roosevelt was forced to war and honestly he and his team were probably itching to get in there are flex American power to shape events directly. Truman finished things out trying to box in the soviets once it was clear the allies were gonna win.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 165d
name any war where anyone wins.
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 165d
The usa did pretty fucking well after ww2
Zink@programming.dev · 15 pts · 165d
Americans born in the 40s and 50s had such a gilded path set out before them by WW2, and now they think that young people can't afford homes because of starbucks and avocado toast.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 165d
The British did ok after the second Boer War.
The empire of Japan did fairly well after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.
The empire of Japan also did great after WW1 come to think of it.
The states did enjoy the Spanish–American war result.
Really kinda requires a strange mind or a willfully ignorant one to not recognize that wars often have winners and that is a reason they keep happening.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 5 pts · 165d
Ww2 turned the US into the world's premier power. In 1945 half the world's GDP was in the United States and the US Navy was larger than the rest of the wold's navies combined.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 165d
That all actually started after World War 1, to be honest.
It was during the first world war that all of the European powers spent literally all their money fighting each other, with both sides then reaching out to the United States for loans to continue fighting each other, which America was of course happy to oblige.
The repayment of those loans constituted the largest transfer of wealth in human history from Europe to the Americas, setting the stage for the American war machine to be completed prior to world war two.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 102 pts · 166d
The end game
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 166d
Hard to imagine only half of the Arabian Peninsula or just a minor sliver of the Levant would be enough. "We're here, why isn't it ours" seems like the Israeli motto.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 21 pts · 166d
100% chance that if they did this, they'd find a reason to invade the squishy but obscenely rich Gulf to the east as well.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 166d
Ah yes just casually taking the bulk of the fucking Nile…
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 9 pts · 166d
Might as well clean up the rest of Egypt as well at that point.
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 166d
They're salty about...
...being let go by the pharaoh? After writing silly stories claiming credit for natural disasters ruining Egypt? Such salty crybabies.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 166d
Fucking psychos. Even at their peak, the biblical Israel was never that expansive. What farcical claim do they even attempt to make to this?
scarabic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 165d
Their farcical claim has been pretty visible for a while now: they need not only the land they consider sacred and theirs but also a security buffer around it. If pressed, they will explain how a security buffer is not just an arbitrary distance of land but possession of key surrounding geographic positions. And that requires them to go all the way to THIS map.
Their acquisition of the Golan Heights set the template for this. Israel used to enjoy saying that they never started any of the conflicts, but even then they would admit that they annexed the Golan proactively because of its strategic positioning and key water sources in the area.
Clearly they won’t be talking about how they never started any of the conflicts anymore. They think they have more to gain than lose by letting that claim go.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 165d
Okay, well in that case all their neighbors need a security buffer too, which includes the key geographic position of their entire country.
See how easy it is to make bullshit claims when you're a fucking sociopathic narcissist who doesn't understand or care that other people's needs are just as valid as your own, and that you can't just take things that aren't yours just because you want it?
Children understand this, but apparently the knesset doesn't. It would be pathetic if it wasn't so close to getting the entire world blown up...
scarabic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d
Yeah I hope I made clear that while I know what they will say, I am not agreeing with it or justifying.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 165d
Oh I know what you meant, it wasn't trying to accuse you. I was just venting my frustrations
scarabic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 165d
Just making sure. Cheers
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 165d
Sorry about the phrasing, I can see how that might have made you scratch your head about whether it was directed at you. My bad
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 165d
Sometimes they are honest about their intentions: https://archive.is/NGnNv
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 164d
Isn't it ironic...
Horsey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 166d
The amount of cultural squashing that would need to happen to make this possible is just ridiculous lol.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 166d
You can just say genocide
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 166d
Nothing like a long, cool ethnically cleansing glass of cultural squash!
Horsey@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 166d
There aren’t enough Jews in the world to genocide that many Arabs+Turks though. Israel would just become the Jewish-Ottoman-Empire-lite
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 166d
All that's needed is military supremacy.
scarabic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d
doesit@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 165d
a cancer spreading
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 101 pts · 166d
Ahhh so thats why we bombed iran.
lmdnw@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 166d
Hope for lots of dead Israeli soldiers!
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · 4 pts · 166d
Why? Is there another Hannibal Directive planned I haven't heard about? Or it that mostly just for civilians?
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 46 pts · 166d
Lebanon can’t catch a break.
doesit@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 165d
While everyone is looking the other way, they move the borders. Once again. A little bit of this, a little bit of that. Gotta do it while the guy whom they can blackmail with epstein videos is in power.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 166d
Are we calling this whole situation in the middle east and Europa a world war yet?
Zink@programming.dev · 12 pts · 165d
Remember how innocent we were the FIRST time Trump bombed Iran and we thought he was starting world war 3? Such sweet summer children were we.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 166d
And now South Asia as well, with the sinking of an Iranian frigate off Sri Lanka.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sri-lanka-rescues-30-people-board-distressed-iranian-ship-foreign-minister-says-2026-03-04/
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 166d
I am. We don't need permission to call it what it is.
NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 165d
It's more of a Great War
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d
Yuge War
derpgon@programming.dev · 1 pts · 165d
Thicc war
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 165d
"Big Beautiful War"
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 35 pts · 166d
Classic Israeli tactic. Big mate allowed to feel like the tough guy, whilst the little shits do something sneaky and nasty whilst the world looks elsewhere.
clot27@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 165d
Its actually hell how we allow this to happen how we allowed the formation of zionist state in the first place its disgusting
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 9 pts · 165d
Truman supported them even right after his security thwarted a mail bomb aimed at him by Zionists.
kokesh@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 166d
Someone invade "israel", so they get what they do to others.
Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 166d
It’s been tried multiple times and the invaders always lose the war and territory.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 166d
Three countries (and more really) tried to do exactly that, and they have still not recovered
Their militaries are woefully inadequate, they can't compete with US/Israeli doctrine directly
There are many reasons why, "top heavy" is simplest explanation; rank and file are afraid of their superiors (rightly so), so they withhold and misrepresent unfortunate news.
This makes modern military operations that depend on adaptability, communication, and coordination very difficult.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
Just emp & nuke them. Wall in any survivors for several decades
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 166d
Israel's nuclear doctrine is the Samson Doctrine.
They get nuked?
The nuke every single capital of every country they can reach, friend foe or in between, Moscow, Paris, Berlin, etc.
"If we're going down, so is everyone else."
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
Nuke, get nuked. Think it through
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · -1 pts · 166d
I am sure this is yet again AnTi-ZiOniSm right?
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 166d
Oh yeah, invade this christian nation once again
couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 166d
Jesus lives there
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 166d
I heard he was deported to Mexico
ameancow@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 166d
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 166d
Actually he's a Korean bodybuilder now, try to keep up
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 165d
Of course they did. Israelis are war fucking criminals, bloodthirsty murderers.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 166d
So how much territory could they actually effectively hold and control?
BananaLama@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 166d
Most people already fled. So it's pretty sparsely populated right now
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 166d
Watch the Lebanese army and goverment again do nothing while their citizens are massacred other than scold their opposition to stop resisting.
breakfastmtn@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 166d
Here's the direct link to this telegraph story:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/03/israel-launches-ground-invasion-of-lebanon/
BananaLama@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 166d
I swapped it out for it.
Hopefully the mods are OK with that
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 165d
Man, Israel really turned from victims of fascism to fascists themselves, bent on conquering everything they can.
Now they're hell bent on expansion, how well did that go again in the past?
The only reason they've been able to do this shit so far is because now we haveore fascists again. Hello trump, you. The only way this stops is when people, countries, start standing up and start fucking giving Israel the finger.
Fuck that "but wewe poow jews, wemembew jews and how we were treated??!!!". Fuck that shit, that was nearly a 100 years ago and pretty much nobody has forgotten except for Israeli Jews. Those that should have been the first to remember were the first to forget. This has NOTHING to do with anti semitism, this is anti fascism. Israël is a fascist state.
Hupf@feddit.org · 5 pts · 166d
Meanwhile on German media: Iran greift 10 Länder an, jetzt auch Zypern?
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 166d
WTF I am not paying the broadcasting fees for this bullshit
how_we_burned@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 166d
Right on
how_we_burned@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 166d
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 165d
Hello beginnings of WWIII!
Not 4, just 3 with a !
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 164d
I can't believe people are still in denial. You have the world biggest superpower simultaneously attacking several countries and threatening to attack all their closest neighbors.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 166d
Yliaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
Samson Option.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · -12 pts · 166d
It would have been wiser for Hezbollah to sit this one out.
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 166d
While Israel still occupied parts of southern Lebanon and bombs whenever they feel like?
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 166d
It does no good to fight if you have no realistic way to win. They didn't have the resources to challenge Israel before the war with Iran started and now they're in an even worse position. They have two roles - as an irregular branch of Iran's military and as a power within Lebanon, and they've chosen to prioritize the former and fight a losing battle at the expense of the latter (and at the expense of Lebanese people with no particular sympathy for Iran who don't want to be involved in this).
DrDickHandler@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 166d
Oh, didn't know we had an armchair general here that has access to confidential material and is an expert on the topic at hand.