Kinda misleading. This dude is a comedian and "influencer" (not really in the typical sense but he films a lotta stuff for online content). He cuts filming just as people are moving out of the way for the ambulance.
I ain't saying NYC doesn't have a problem with what he's saying, but I am saying you can see how he's not being entirely honest and he's incentivized to be dishonest.
No amount of dishonesty can invalidate the fact that in a typical german city that ambulance would be going literally 10 times as fast without any issues. Its not just stupid drivers, but NYC is also just a complete failure in terms of road design.
It really doesn't, because in Germany cars always move out of the way. Even if the street is completely full of cars waiting at a red light for example.
No, that's my point. In the video there is much more room to move than what I mean, with two lanes it mostly suffices to just move the car to either edge of the road.
The idea of a car lobbyist sitting in on a fucking city council meeting.
You guys are like gnomes the way you talk about America.
No the car lobby doesn't have to do anything, our own goddamn reactionaries will immediately squeal "They gonna make traffic WORSE!" despite the fact that I find our single lane freeways more efficient here because The option to choose what fucking lane they are in allows these people to make more mistakes and force more 'brake waves'.
If you genuinely believe that there are no car and oil lobbyists in local politics, especially in a city as big and famous as NYC then you are completely out of touch with reality. Yes thats not the entire reason for why its like this but it definitely helps buying of politicians.
Even if they did eventually move out of the way, it would still be way slower than what happens in Germany (and many other European countries). Cars would begin to move out of the way as soon as they notice it approaching.
He cuts filming just as people are moving out of the way for the ambulance.
You do realize you’ve proved his point? In Europe there’d be no “just as they are moving”, the cars would have already moved by the time the ambulance reached them.
I've never been to New York, but as somebody born and raised in Southern California, lived in Portland, Or, and is currently living in Minnesota, I have never seen this. You always move over to the right. Immediately and without question. In California, Oregon, and Minnesota, at least, it's the law, and you can be fined for not complying.
I live right outside NYC and have to drive through on a semi-regular basis. People generally do move out of the way of emergency vehicles. BUUUTTTT, traffic is completely fucked in NYC. Watch the video again, cars are trying to move but literally have nowhere to go. This happens daily, if you're not out off Manhattan by 3pm your travel time is now at minimum doubled on an average day. Some days its 3-4x worse.
I think the difference in Germany is that you are required by law to make space beforehand. When you are in a traffic jam on the Autobahn, there are rules for how to make a "Rettungsgasse" (rescue alley). A few years ago they bumped the penalty up to 320€ and suspend your drivers licence for a month. This penalty isn't only applied when you actually hinder an ambulance or the like, but when your actions could affect them in theory. I love that.
As an NYC resident, cars will move over if there's space, but there's so much congestion that you physically can't move, there's no shoulder or anything.
And there's also idiots who are fighting congestion pricing that helps with these kinds of problems by reducing the number of cars on the road. You can't widen these roads without getting rid of sidewalks which just means even more cars and traffic so the only option is reduce the number of cars.
the right lane cars move to the right the left lane cars move to the left the ambulance goes down the middle, its interesting your brain only imagines moving right but not process the goal of creating a path
My brain can imagine the process of creating a path, wtf, that's literally what I'm talking about. Just moving over to the right is what is written in the law in most places. Chill.
I’ve seen some videos of his act. IMO he’s not very funny, his comedic style is mostly the one where it’s shitting on everything. So it’s not surprising to see him picking a situation like this and shitting on it.
This dude is a comedian and calling things kinky is one of his catchphrases.
Another reason I don't like this idea of this dude being used as any source of information, I find his comedy routine exhausting and overly laden with tired, old stereotypes instead of actual humor. A lot of his jokes are "Germans are fetishists", "Germans used to be Nazis", "Germans are rigid and rules following" and "my wife is Jewish, isn't that bizarre?"
All of them are forced to drive. Some people admit they are terrible drivers, but have no options if they still want to have a life not revolving around commuting.
Being a terrible driver and not making way for emergency vehicles aren't necessarily mutual.
Like, using another example, a bad driver might park a little over the line. An entitled asshole will purposely take up 4 spots or use the handicap space when they are not handicapped.
I remember in 2009 or so there was a case in Berlin (a city in Germany) where someone made way for an ambulance by moving their car on the sidewalk. They did that moving very fast, killing a pedestrian.
Proves that even a very terrible driver can be able to make way for an ambulance.
It's way worse. They don't ban you and they don't delete your content. TikTok ads don't pay enough that demonetization is a concern either.
The algorithm just silently (!) deranks your content. They don't have guidelines, they don't have feedback, they will never communicate on what is and is not okay to post about. You'll just say "Fuck ICE" in a video once and notice it is doing suspiciously worse than the rest, but then again, you're never quite sure why some of your videos "make it" and some don't. So maybe you're being paranoid? You can't tell.
So on top of the very real algorithmic censorship from these platforms, you've got very frequent bouts of mass psychosis where everyone self-censors for no other reason that other people are doing it and they don't want to risk it. Is the word "dead" de-ranked? Quite likely not even, but who's to say, and it doesn't cost anything to farm a little engagement in the comments by self-censoring...
Kids invent new words for their current culture. They in no way organically invent words that are friendly to advertisers. You should be disgusted that corporations are now such an invasive species they are affecting the language our youth is inventing. This is poison. It is not at all normal.
Rettungsgasse. It means that the cars on the leftmost lane pull over to the left and all other cars move over to the right. That always creates enough space for an emergency vehicle to pass through.
Why not? Ambulance at your house in 10 mins is not unheard of (where I am)
That's faster than I would be able to hail a cab or public transport. I sure as hell am not gonna cycle or drive if I am actively suffering from a cardiac arrest
I just imagine an old grey haired guy sitting on the kitchen floor taking his pulse
“Waaait for it not yet, still happening almost”
While his family is there clambering for him to just call for an ambulance
All the literature I’ve read states that getting help as fast as possible gets the best health outcome, not a doctor, just a dude who happens to have a heart
Chest pains and shortness of breath aren’t going to cause most people to preemptively call an ambulance. Also the signs aren’t 100% lots of people have heart attacks without knowing it, especially women.
Why be so rude to people online? It’s not a good look especially when you’re incorrect in your statements.
I don’t know where the fuck you got ‘cause most people’ to do anything, all I said was the last guy is wrong for saying there are no signs of an impending heart attack
I dunno why do loud mouths like you butt into conversations and make false accusations about shit that was never said?
I really don't get your point. If people are around to help the person, they will and then call the ambulance. Where do you take the waiting from? Isn't a heart attack something that happens suddenly? Why would you wait before you call the ambulance if you know it will happen? Where do you take that from?
I'm not sure if you two are just joking or if there's actual some confusion here. What the guy in the video means by "before" the heart attack is before there's any indication you're gonna have one.
In Germany, if you are seriously sick or injured, you need support from someone who can make demands of the hospital and the doctors, otherwise you get no info and probably not enough treatment and medication. If Mutti doesn't have anyone actively engaging with doctors and staff, Mutti is pretty much f'ed in proverbial a. Why? Because everyone is overworked and disillusioned and very tired, and there is never enough time or money to treat people properly because of the way our health system has been restructured: to be profit oriented - even public hospitals.
Still beats what they have in 'murica: at least you can get affordable treatment even as a nobody.
Berlin is larger (892km^2 vs 783km^2) and less population dense (6 million vs 20 million in the metro areas). So... Kinda comparing apples to oranges.
Edit: If you want a real comparison, look at Philadelphia or Chicago. Those are a little closer to Berlin than fucking NYC. But, I guess it's our turn to start a World War this time, so maybe after NYC gets razed we can rebuild like they did with Berlin and focus on modernizing traffic patterns for mass transit.
Rural areas have problems. And it's hard to compare them as they are so different : Montana is bigger than Germany and only had like 100,000 people. Other places are not so different between the countries are not so different despite what the guy in the video is asserting.
What point are you trying to make? That rural areas which were once built as spots of closeness were eventually turned into sprawling towns? Or trying to saying things aren’t so different despite the fact that we can literally see, with our own eyes, how the differences are pretty bad? He’s not asserting anything in the sense that he’s not just talking out his ass, it’s video proof.
There is just one small flaw: this study only had a look at people that made it alive to the hospital.
Also, as the study said in noumorus places, whilefor Germany, full statistics where available, the USA data is more hit and miss, and therefore not as granular as German data.
While it is true that Germany has one of the worst life expectancies in western Europe, this is attributed more to our style of live then our health care system.
I would take that with a grain of salt, since the study here says it only deals with death inside of the hospital (which is what is expected of a system encouraging the individual to flee the expensive place as soon as possible):
Considering the markedly lower length of stay in U.S. hospitals, it seems likely that more deaths following AMI occur after hospital discharge in the U.S., compared to Germany. This assumption is supported by recent OECD publications, which also report U.S. 30-day AMI mortality based on linked data. This figure was at 9.3% in the year 2020, compared to 4.9% when based on unlinked data. For Germany, national 30-day AMI mortality figures based on linked data are not available to date. In other industrialized countries reporting both figures, the difference between mortality based on unlinked data and mortality based on linked data was not as pronounced as in the U.S. (e.g., 5.6% vs. 7.2% in France, 6.5% vs. 7.1% in Spain)
In addition, the median age of patients is quite a lot higher, and as we all know, we all die at some time. If i am in my 50s and have a heart attack, sign me up for a German hospital 100% of the time, at least i am not bankrupted afterwards if i survive.
Also, when a share of the people die on the way to the hospital, the least healthy ones get culled from the the statistics. Some of the people why die into ambulances in USA would die in the hospital in Germany.
The multiplier of 1,5 can therefore also tell about a lot of people dying because of ambulances being stuck in traffic jams. Only the healthiest will make it to the hospital.
That was actually accounted for by the study. The study was looking for differences in reporting between Germany and the US and if/how they are relevant
That in built up areas the times are not so different. That is evident in many studies. Rural areas are incomparable as the US has rural areas at a level Germany can't understand
Reparations are a thing. Also you should really read up on denazification and how it stopped being useful to the US (and thus was ended) once the Communists became the new enemy.
Stop begging for someone else to save us and do something about it yourself. Organize, get to know your neighbors, save your money outside of the American economy.
Oh, don't worry friend, history rhymes, and you're going to get your "payback". In fact, you're getting it right now, only not in the way you were expecting. This time around the Old World is going to be coming to the rescue of the New. Rescue it from the same fascist ideology.
Let me know how you plan on paying us back. But don't worry - we're not going to blackmail you into it. Europeans are more decent than that - nowadays we prefer the negotiations table. Which doesn't mean we've forgotten how to use guns. We're the ones who taught you how to wage war, after all.
By the way, Europe used to have its own ICE thing going on but we decided to disband it in 1945. Not sure why, but I've heard Americans had something do with it. Ironic, isn't it?
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DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 128 pts · 169d
NYC EMS story.
Cab driver gets in a fender bender with a 911 ambulance.
After arguing with the crew and supervisor he decides he has neck and back pain and he must go to the hospital.
A second ambulance is dispatched and, following protocol, fully immobilizes him and takes him to the hospital.
En route the cabbie complains about how slow the ambulance is going.
"Everyone else is like you, none of them get out of the way."
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 63 pts · 169d
Kinda misleading. This dude is a comedian and "influencer" (not really in the typical sense but he films a lotta stuff for online content). He cuts filming just as people are moving out of the way for the ambulance.
I ain't saying NYC doesn't have a problem with what he's saying, but I am saying you can see how he's not being entirely honest and he's incentivized to be dishonest.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 91 pts · 169d
No amount of dishonesty can invalidate the fact that in a typical german city that ambulance would be going literally 10 times as fast without any issues. Its not just stupid drivers, but NYC is also just a complete failure in terms of road design.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 168d
NYC is thrice as dense as Berlin, the densest city in Germany. Probably accounts for something.
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de · 19 pts · 168d
It really doesn't, because in Germany cars always move out of the way. Even if the street is completely full of cars waiting at a red light for example.
rapchee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
tbf it's because there is room for them or the ambulance to move to, like a bus lane, a bicycle path etc, but that's not acceptable in many places
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 168d
No, that's my point. In the video there is much more room to move than what I mean, with two lanes it mostly suffices to just move the car to either edge of the road.
Anivia@feddit.org · 5 pts · 167d
Berlin is the capital of Germany, but NOT the densest city of Germany
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
Oh my mistake, you're right. Was rushing a bit, haste makes waste and all that.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 168d
Well it wasn't leveled 80 years ago.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 22 pts · 168d
Its not that deep. They just need to remove 2 of the three car lanes, replace em with a bike and a bus lane and the problems is solved.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 168d
I would love to hear someone propose that at a city council.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 168d
Im sure that has happened, but the car lobby has the money and money is literally the only deciding factor in US politics.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
The idea of a car lobbyist sitting in on a fucking city council meeting.
You guys are like gnomes the way you talk about America.
No the car lobby doesn't have to do anything, our own goddamn reactionaries will immediately squeal "They gonna make traffic WORSE!" despite the fact that I find our single lane freeways more efficient here because The option to choose what fucking lane they are in allows these people to make more mistakes and force more 'brake waves'.
pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 168d
That's the direct result of car lobbying, it has changed the perception of a whole generation on how we should build cities
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 168d
If you genuinely believe that there are no car and oil lobbyists in local politics, especially in a city as big and famous as NYC then you are completely out of touch with reality. Yes thats not the entire reason for why its like this but it definitely helps buying of politicians.
Miaou@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 168d
American cities indeed are, after all, pedestrian oriented
Rothe@piefed.social · 17 pts · 169d
Even if they did eventually move out of the way, it would still be way slower than what happens in Germany (and many other European countries). Cars would begin to move out of the way as soon as they notice it approaching.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 13 pts · 169d
I mean, there are about a thousand people that can coroborate the fact that people block ambulances in NYC all the time.
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -6 pts · 169d
Oh yeah absolutely I ain't denying that, I just don't like that this dude is doing this for content.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 8 pts · 169d
You mean filming?
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 169d
I am a german i never seen this guy. Maybe he is more famous in the USA.
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 169d
Yeah he primarily posts English language content because his humor is mostly based off English speaking stereotypes instead of, well, jokes.
mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 168d
Bro is the Uncle Roger of Germans
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 167d
You do realize you’ve proved his point? In Europe there’d be no “just as they are moving”, the cars would have already moved by the time the ambulance reached them.
TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 167d
Yes but the American ego..
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 42 pts · 169d
I've never been to New York, but as somebody born and raised in Southern California, lived in Portland, Or, and is currently living in Minnesota, I have never seen this. You always move over to the right. Immediately and without question. In California, Oregon, and Minnesota, at least, it's the law, and you can be fined for not complying.
David_Eight@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 169d
I live right outside NYC and have to drive through on a semi-regular basis. People generally do move out of the way of emergency vehicles. BUUUTTTT, traffic is completely fucked in NYC. Watch the video again, cars are trying to move but literally have nowhere to go. This happens daily, if you're not out off Manhattan by 3pm your travel time is now at minimum doubled on an average day. Some days its 3-4x worse.
Daemnyz@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 168d
I think the difference in Germany is that you are required by law to make space beforehand. When you are in a traffic jam on the Autobahn, there are rules for how to make a "Rettungsgasse" (rescue alley). A few years ago they bumped the penalty up to 320€ and suspend your drivers licence for a month. This penalty isn't only applied when you actually hinder an ambulance or the like, but when your actions could affect them in theory. I love that.
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 168d
As an NYC resident, cars will move over if there's space, but there's so much congestion that you physically can't move, there's no shoulder or anything.
And there's also idiots who are fighting congestion pricing that helps with these kinds of problems by reducing the number of cars on the road. You can't widen these roads without getting rid of sidewalks which just means even more cars and traffic so the only option is reduce the number of cars.
SethW@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
the right lane cars move to the right the left lane cars move to the left the ambulance goes down the middle, its interesting your brain only imagines moving right but not process the goal of creating a path
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 168d
My brain can imagine the process of creating a path, wtf, that's literally what I'm talking about. Just moving over to the right is what is written in the law in most places. Chill.
wieson@feddit.org · 1 pts · 167d
Sounds like @SethW's comment was meant for @nandeEbisu or other comments countering you, but idk
TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 167d
How do you know what his brain imagines
He states always move right. That works. Implied is all the stuff you said
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 169d
Is he German? I couldn't tell, ja?
Strider@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 168d
Achtung! Snel! Snel!
The stereotypical Indiana Jones German 😁
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 168d
He’s a comedian.
Also, there’s no place for people to pull over.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 168d
Because USA is a shithole.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 168d
Exactly. He's criticizing the country, not just those drivers. We keep voting for people who want our cities clogged with excessive cars.
Tuuktuuk@nord.pub · 6 pts · 168d
Huh? How is there not? At least on the video there is. People just are not using that place.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 166d
You're looking at one incident, on one block, in the one city in America that is radically different than all of the others.
And that said, NYCs response times are around 10min, which is target that Germany also tries to hit. https://www.nyc.gov/assets/operations/downloads/pdf/mmr2025/2025_mmr.pdf
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 167d
He's exactly what I'd expect of a German comedian.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 167d
I’ve seen some videos of his act. IMO he’s not very funny, his comedic style is mostly the one where it’s shitting on everything. So it’s not surprising to see him picking a situation like this and shitting on it.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 169d
What makes the bicycle kinky?
pennomi@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 169d
toynbee@piefed.social · 1 pts · 167d
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 169d
This dude is a comedian and calling things kinky is one of his catchphrases.
Another reason I don't like this idea of this dude being used as any source of information, I find his comedy routine exhausting and overly laden with tired, old stereotypes instead of actual humor. A lot of his jokes are "Germans are fetishists", "Germans used to be Nazis", "Germans are rigid and rules following" and "my wife is Jewish, isn't that bizarre?"
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 169d
Oh, yeah, repeating old '"funny'" stereotypes isn't really very masterful humor
AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 169d
the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
Ya!
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 169d
Not just NYC. I see the same kinda shit in California too.
We have entirely too many entitled fuckfaces in this country and all of them drive.
123@programming.dev · 3 pts · 168d
All of them are forced to drive. Some people admit they are terrible drivers, but have no options if they still want to have a life not revolving around commuting.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 168d
Being a terrible driver and not making way for emergency vehicles aren't necessarily mutual.
Like, using another example, a bad driver might park a little over the line. An entitled asshole will purposely take up 4 spots or use the handicap space when they are not handicapped.
Tuuktuuk@nord.pub · 1 pts · 168d
I remember in 2009 or so there was a case in Berlin (a city in Germany) where someone made way for an ambulance by moving their car on the sidewalk. They did that moving very fast, killing a pedestrian.
Proves that even a very terrible driver can be able to make way for an ambulance.
x00z@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 169d
This is Mario Adrion right? A stand up comedian.
QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social · 9 pts · 169d
The transcription is almost correct all the way except for one part.
When he says, "Whoever needed it, they're dead".
The transcription reads, "Whoever needed it, they're okay".
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 169d
because social media platforms will delete your content and ban you if you continue to talk about the "bad stuff".
welcome to the dawn of the age of new speak. I heard a 13 year old kid last week say "unalive" instead of "kill".
we're so fucked.
azertyfun@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 168d
It's way worse. They don't ban you and they don't delete your content. TikTok ads don't pay enough that demonetization is a concern either.
The algorithm just silently (!) deranks your content. They don't have guidelines, they don't have feedback, they will never communicate on what is and is not okay to post about. You'll just say "Fuck ICE" in a video once and notice it is doing suspiciously worse than the rest, but then again, you're never quite sure why some of your videos "make it" and some don't. So maybe you're being paranoid? You can't tell.
So on top of the very real algorithmic censorship from these platforms, you've got very frequent bouts of mass psychosis where everyone self-censors for no other reason that other people are doing it and they don't want to risk it. Is the word "dead" de-ranked? Quite likely not even, but who's to say, and it doesn't cost anything to farm a little engagement in the comments by self-censoring...
Isn't the future bright?
toynbee@piefed.social · 1 pts · 167d
If I post that list to all of the social media accounts I made before I realized that privacy is important, will they get deleted?
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · -5 pts · 169d
It’s to be advertiser friendly. All kids use new words. We did the same
EightBitBlood@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 169d
Kids invent new words for their current culture. They in no way organically invent words that are friendly to advertisers. You should be disgusted that corporations are now such an invasive species they are affecting the language our youth is inventing. This is poison. It is not at all normal.
Dude. Bro. Radical. Excellent. Tubular. Fleek. Ratchet.
Are not at all the same as:
Sewerslide. Unalive. Junocide.
Oligarchs are forcing kids to learn a new language that downplays the very suffering they are causing worldwide.
You should be furious, not apathetic. Or your kids will never learn the meaning of those words as they aren't productive to the oligarchy.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · -3 pts · 169d
Yeah I’ve got bigger hills to die on than language bro.
EightBitBlood@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 169d
Yeah, but your kids don't which is my point.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
Seems pretty foundational to our species tbh.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
language literally shapes your mind.
I can see your language took the shape of a walnut.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · -1 pts · 168d
Nah just actually found people more cynical about the world than me for once.
CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 168d
That is just america in general
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 168d
"No one moves out of the way!"
(Cuts camera as people start moving out of the way)
Tuuktuuk@nord.pub · 4 pts · 168d
Yup, but they mostly did not. That's why the ambulance got stuck so far behind.
Also, their making way is reeeally sluggish!
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 167d
His jokes about Germany and being German gets repetitive, but i can't deny that he still makes me laugh everytime!
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 169d
US drivers do not understand the Rettungsgasse. +1 Deutschland!
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 169d
Some societies consider the welfare of others; other societies don’t.
Alpha71@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 167d
I dunno, The last time we let Germany march places it didn't go well.
FaygoRedPop@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
The ambulance could have just passed right through his front teeth to get by.
grue@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
So he's saying "send a German" but what I'm hearing is "tow a gurney with a bike."
123@programming.dev · 1 pts · 168d
Instructions unclear, they got ran over at the intersection by a dodge ram with a lift kit that could not see them.
artyom@piefed.social · 2 pts · 169d
Where do you expect them to go? They're supposed to fly out of the way?
python@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 168d
Rettungsgasse. It means that the cars on the leftmost lane pull over to the left and all other cars move over to the right. That always creates enough space for an emergency vehicle to pass through.
artyom@piefed.social · 0 pts · 168d
Have you ever driven in NYC? There are already cars to the left, right, front, and back of you. There's nowhere to go except forward.
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
well Mario is indeed German lol
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 169d
Do people in Germany typically call for ambulances after their heart attack? Doesn’t sound like an ideal strategy
Also #fuckcars
kunaltyagi@programming.dev · 9 pts · 169d
Why not? Ambulance at your house in 10 mins is not unheard of (where I am)
That's faster than I would be able to hail a cab or public transport. I sure as hell am not gonna cycle or drive if I am actively suffering from a cardiac arrest
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 169d
10 minutes still feel like a lot. I don't think I ever had to wait that much for an ambulance. Though I do live in an atypical town.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -6 pts · 169d
I just imagine an old grey haired guy sitting on the kitchen floor taking his pulse
“Waaait for it not yet, still happening almost”
While his family is there clambering for him to just call for an ambulance
All the literature I’ve read states that getting help as fast as possible gets the best health outcome, not a doctor, just a dude who happens to have a heart
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 169d
What? Do you think that people can predict when they will get a heart attack? When else would people call it if not after the person has it?
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -6 pts · 169d
There are 100% signs of an impending heart attack? What the fuck are you talking about?
teft@piefed.social · 8 pts · 169d
Chest pains and shortness of breath aren’t going to cause most people to preemptively call an ambulance. Also the signs aren’t 100% lots of people have heart attacks without knowing it, especially women.
Why be so rude to people online? It’s not a good look especially when you’re incorrect in your statements.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -6 pts · 169d
I don’t know where the fuck you got ‘cause most people’ to do anything, all I said was the last guy is wrong for saying there are no signs of an impending heart attack
I dunno why do loud mouths like you butt into conversations and make false accusations about shit that was never said?
teft@piefed.social · 3 pts · 169d
Well at least I know I can block you. Get some help with anger management.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 169d
And how many seconds before the attack do those appear? Is that timeframe relevant in a fucking way to this discussion?
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 169d
I really don't get your point. If people are around to help the person, they will and then call the ambulance. Where do you take the waiting from? Isn't a heart attack something that happens suddenly? Why would you wait before you call the ambulance if you know it will happen? Where do you take that from?
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -5 pts · 169d
Thank you :) I’m happy you came around to my point of view
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 169d
What ever...
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 169d
I'm not sure if you two are just joking or if there's actual some confusion here. What the guy in the video means by "before" the heart attack is before there's any indication you're gonna have one.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -5 pts · 169d
Well that’s not what he said sooooo?
UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 169d
You better. If you do not arrive at the ER via ambulance, they will assume your case is not an emergency.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 169d
That’s pretty fucked,
sorry your Nana died, she didn’t use der zugelassene Krankenwagen! So we left her in the lobby
UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 169d
Ja, well. Good luck finding someone to talk to.
In Germany, if you are seriously sick or injured, you need support from someone who can make demands of the hospital and the doctors, otherwise you get no info and probably not enough treatment and medication. If Mutti doesn't have anyone actively engaging with doctors and staff, Mutti is pretty much f'ed in proverbial a. Why? Because everyone is overworked and disillusioned and very tired, and there is never enough time or money to treat people properly because of the way our health system has been restructured: to be profit oriented - even public hospitals.
Still beats what they have in 'murica: at least you can get affordable treatment even as a nobody.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 169d
Berlin is larger (892km^2 vs 783km^2) and less population dense (6 million vs 20 million in the metro areas). So... Kinda comparing apples to oranges.
Edit: If you want a real comparison, look at Philadelphia or Chicago. Those are a little closer to Berlin than fucking NYC. But, I guess it's our turn to start a World War this time, so maybe after NYC gets razed we can rebuild like they did with Berlin and focus on modernizing traffic patterns for mass transit.
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 169d
The time to arrive at emergency should be the same. Death will not wait for you.
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
Must be nice living in a world where population dynamics and physics don't exist.
Tuuktuuk@nord.pub · 0 pts · 168d
Why would they not exist in USA?
Trilogy3452@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 169d
Apples to Döner Kebabs
Tuuktuuk@nord.pub · 0 pts · 168d
Then take London or Paris and compare New York to them. The ambulances are able to get through in London. Here's something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Ez1K1W-uM
raef@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 168d
Rural areas have problems. And it's hard to compare them as they are so different : Montana is bigger than Germany and only had like 100,000 people. Other places are not so different between the countries are not so different despite what the guy in the video is asserting.
Soup@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 168d
What point are you trying to make? That rural areas which were once built as spots of closeness were eventually turned into sprawling towns? Or trying to saying things aren’t so different despite the fact that we can literally see, with our own eyes, how the differences are pretty bad? He’s not asserting anything in the sense that he’s not just talking out his ass, it’s video proof.
raef@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 169d
Germany has a higher mortality rate for heart attacks than the US
vapeloki@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
Source?
raef@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
Source: SpringerMedizin.de https://share.google/Y3pDiTAszdpbbClj8
That's just one of many such. It's about 1.5 times the mortality rate
vapeloki@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 169d
There is just one small flaw: this study only had a look at people that made it alive to the hospital.
Also, as the study said in noumorus places, whilefor Germany, full statistics where available, the USA data is more hit and miss, and therefore not as granular as German data.
While it is true that Germany has one of the worst life expectancies in western Europe, this is attributed more to our style of live then our health care system.
Ambulance waiting times cost lives.
That is a proven fact.
raef@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
The national target for ambulance response time in the US is 9 minutes. It's up to 19 in Germany
vapeloki@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
Also correct. The target. And how many times this target is reached?
raef@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
All I see is that it's nearly the same with the US more often being less than 8 minutes than Germany
vapeloki@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
https://www.facs.org/media-center/press-releases/2025/ems-call-times-in-rural-areas-take-at-least-20-minutes-longer-than-national-average/
https://www.jems.com/news/ambulance-wall-times-soar-nationwide/
https://nypost.com/2025/01/30/us-news/nyc-ambulance-response-times-for-life-threatening-emergencies-jump-as-emts-see-staffing-crunch/
Should I continue?
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 169d
I would take that with a grain of salt, since the study here says it only deals with death inside of the hospital (which is what is expected of a system encouraging the individual to flee the expensive place as soon as possible):
In addition, the median age of patients is quite a lot higher, and as we all know, we all die at some time. If i am in my 50s and have a heart attack, sign me up for a German hospital 100% of the time, at least i am not bankrupted afterwards if i survive.
Tuuktuuk@nord.pub · 1 pts · 168d
Also, when a share of the people die on the way to the hospital, the least healthy ones get culled from the the statistics. Some of the people why die into ambulances in USA would die in the hospital in Germany.
The multiplier of 1,5 can therefore also tell about a lot of people dying because of ambulances being stuck in traffic jams. Only the healthiest will make it to the hospital.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 167d
That was actually accounted for by the study. The study was looking for differences in reporting between Germany and the US and if/how they are relevant
raef@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
It's hard to measure for those that don't try , but have to assume death will be declared in hospital for those on their way there.
raef@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 168d
That in built up areas the times are not so different. That is evident in many studies. Rural areas are incomparable as the US has rural areas at a level Germany can't understand
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 168d
This guy is a fucking donkey.
Etterra@discuss.online · -36 pts · 168d
I really wish Germany would pay us back for that little getting rid of the Nazis thing that happened last century.
Jikiya@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 168d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_reparations
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 168d
Did we get rid of them or just bring them here?
JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 168d
It's a little from column A, a little from column B (dossiers of both held together by a rather flimsy paperclip).
Witziger_Waschbaer@feddit.org · 9 pts · 168d
Reparations are a thing. Also you should really read up on denazification and how it stopped being useful to the US (and thus was ended) once the Communists became the new enemy.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 168d
Stop begging for someone else to save us and do something about it yourself. Organize, get to know your neighbors, save your money outside of the American economy.
olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 168d
I wish I could downvote this twice.
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
We tried that after WWI, let me know how that reparations turned out.
Saryn@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
Oh, don't worry friend, history rhymes, and you're going to get your "payback". In fact, you're getting it right now, only not in the way you were expecting. This time around the Old World is going to be coming to the rescue of the New. Rescue it from the same fascist ideology.
Let me know how you plan on paying us back. But don't worry - we're not going to blackmail you into it. Europeans are more decent than that - nowadays we prefer the negotiations table. Which doesn't mean we've forgotten how to use guns. We're the ones who taught you how to wage war, after all.
By the way, Europe used to have its own ICE thing going on but we decided to disband it in 1945. Not sure why, but I've heard Americans had something do with it. Ironic, isn't it?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 168d
After you sort your current situation out, we can talk about it