Because the exploit targets the boot ROM burned into silicon, Microslop can't patch it. Every Xbox One ever manufactured is vulnerable, and always will be. The hack gives complete access to everything — the Hypervisor, the operating system, the ability to run unsigned code at every privilege level. Games and firmware can be decrypted, which could open the door to emulation projects and eventual mod chips.
I still have an OG Xbox with an emulator and the SNES romset and Conker's Bad Fur Day on another partition (I did the mod to install a larger HDD). All it took was a hacked save and a Mechwarrior game.
Amazing stuff, the devs were a decent bunch too, I distinctly remember pestering a dev to create a save game loader that would write saves from a disk to a vmu on the irc channel for wraggster's dcemu forum. Might have to dig out my old Dreamcast if it still lives.
ironically, one of the xbox one games people are most interested in porting to pc is the legacy console edition of minecraft, a game famously already on pc!
tho with the recent source code leak of LCE idk if there’s still much enthusiasm
Well Rare Replay includes a few games in it that imo are fucking classics like Conker (but the best version is Live and Reloaded), Ghoulies, Battletoads, Banjo, Viva Pinata, but most of those are available on pc by other methods afaik, just not bundled with "Rare Replay" (which means Conker is better emulated on the xbox OG, because bot battles Squirrel v Bear.)
“unhackable” is a bit sensationalized here. the Xbox One is actually a security success story not because it is impossible to hack, but because it’s a rare example of a console that wasn’t hacked in its service lifetime. at the risk of giving praise to Microsoft, the architecture is actually really neat and informed the security features of subsequent Windows releases, ie a hypervisor with sandboxed sub containers (this is why they required TPMs).
(also i’m not agreeing with requiring a TPM for general purpose machines; they make sense on a bespoke hardware platform like a game console)
i bet this hack is nuts, but the blue team deserves some level of kudos
I feel like allowing users to access dev mode played a large part in this as well. Without the option surely it would have been cracked sooner.
Which is a great lesson in and of itself for tech companies willing to listen.
Dev mode should be considered as part of that success. It devalued hacking the system in the first place. It's not going to be hacked if people aren't trying.
Tools and methods used to jailbreak this generation can and will be refined and used on the next one. It should be noted that the full force of the hacking community wasn't behind this effort. The homebrew function placated a lot of people. Had microslop pulled a sony and yanked a feature or not provided that outlet: I'd imagine we'd have seen more exploits sooner.
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joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 287 pts · 187d
Xbox exclusives coming soon to SteamDeck.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 51 pts · 187d
Dude OG Xbox was GOAT for emulation and entertainment. Kodi got its start there, as xbmc.
I'd be so excited to have that again.
Does this apply to X|S or just Xbone?
tomalley8342@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 187d
It only applies to the 2013 model of the original Xbox One. Later Xbox Ones have more stringent checks.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 187d
Emulating the former is good enough for games preservation (or whatever you decide to do with the games).
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 187d
I still have an OG Xbox with an emulator and the SNES romset and Conker's Bad Fur Day on another partition (I did the mod to install a larger HDD). All it took was a hacked save and a Mechwarrior game.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 187d
Nice. I used Splinter Cell to mod mine.
night_petal@piefed.social · 4 pts · 187d
I do too. I use it at least once a month and still love it. It will be a very annoying day when that hard drive finally fails.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 187d
The dcemulation scene walked so Xbox emulation could run emulated software in new an innovative ways ;3
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 187d
Ah mate, that was a great community back in the day.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 187d
My duuuuude <3
It was MINDBLOWING to me hahaha. I’m thinking “BUT IT’S NOT EVEN A GD-ROM AND IT WORKS AND I CAN PLAY SECRET OF MANA?!”
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 187d
Amazing stuff, the devs were a decent bunch too, I distinctly remember pestering a dev to create a save game loader that would write saves from a disk to a vmu on the irc channel for wraggster's dcemu forum. Might have to dig out my old Dreamcast if it still lives.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 187d
Plex too fwiw.
3abas@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
Well yes, but Plex started as a port of XBMC to run on Mac os; you installed XBMC directly on the Xbox, it turned your Xbox into a streaming box.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 187d
this would be funnier, were it not so sad
Oh wait, it's sad for Microslop so it's even funnier!!!!
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 187d
Amazing! Let's take a look at all the exclusives for xbox!
Tumbleweed
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 187d
Are there any XBOX One games that aren't also on PC? Steam Deck can already run most of those.
I guess there's Rare Replay, but all of those game are already playable on the Steam Deck individually.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu · 26 pts · 187d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Xbox_One-only_games
Basically, nothing notable except Forza 5.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 187d
ironically, one of the xbox one games people are most interested in porting to pc is the legacy console edition of minecraft, a game famously already on pc!
tho with the recent source code leak of LCE idk if there’s still much enthusiasm
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 187d
Ah, I didn't know about the others! Slim pickins like the PS5, although that has a few that are notably pretty good.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 186d
Well Rare Replay includes a few games in it that imo are fucking classics like Conker (but the best version is Live and Reloaded), Ghoulies, Battletoads, Banjo, Viva Pinata, but most of those are available on pc by other methods afaik, just not bundled with "Rare Replay" (which means Conker is better emulated on the xbox OG, because bot battles Squirrel v Bear.)
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 7 pts · 187d
Halo 5
BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 187d
"but but but we put Halo 5 Forge on PC that's what you gamers wanted right?"
— Microslop, probably
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 187d
I thought it was only the release version of the console that was vulnerable. Was there a breakthrough in the last two days?
chrash0@lemmy.world · 143 pts · 187d
“unhackable” is a bit sensationalized here. the Xbox One is actually a security success story not because it is impossible to hack, but because it’s a rare example of a console that wasn’t hacked in its service lifetime. at the risk of giving praise to Microsoft, the architecture is actually really neat and informed the security features of subsequent Windows releases, ie a hypervisor with sandboxed sub containers (this is why they required TPMs).
(also i’m not agreeing with requiring a TPM for general purpose machines; they make sense on a bespoke hardware platform like a game console)
i bet this hack is nuts, but the blue team deserves some level of kudos
https://youtu.be/U7VwtOrwceo
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 187d
I feel like allowing users to access dev mode played a large part in this as well. Without the option surely it would have been cracked sooner.
Which is a great lesson in and of itself for tech companies willing to listen.
SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev · 12 pts · 187d
And that is why they NDA anyone who touches a dev kit.
M137@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
This whole post, including your point, is basically just mirroring what MVG said in this video: https://youtu.be/Evi6IDgjPD0
subignition@fedia.io · 20 pts · 187d
Reasonable and nuanced take, you love to see it!
meco03211@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 187d
The fuck it is! What am I gonna do with this pitchfork now?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 187d
Move hay?
Hule@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 187d
Maybe even manure?
swab148@startrek.website · 2 pts · 187d
They're great for tearing the shingles off of a roof!
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 187d
Dev mode should be considered as part of that success. It devalued hacking the system in the first place. It's not going to be hacked if people aren't trying.
org@lemmy.org · 33 pts · 187d
Dont challenge people by calling something “unhackable”
jqubed@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 187d
I mean, it took almost 13 years and the product itself was discontinued six years ago
yggstyle@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 187d
Tools and methods used to jailbreak this generation can and will be refined and used on the next one. It should be noted that the full force of the hacking community wasn't behind this effort. The homebrew function placated a lot of people. Had microslop pulled a sony and yanked a feature or not provided that outlet: I'd imagine we'd have seen more exploits sooner.
ugjka@lemmy.ugjka.net · 10 pts · 187d
I watched the talk and the demo, the bar is pretty high. But the good news that a relatively simple modchip should be possible
riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 187d
The unhackable Switch 2!
Landless2029@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 187d
So depending on the specs it might be fun to get a used Xbox One and turn it into a steam machine. Better it'll be done within 2 years.
db2@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 187d
Everything is hackable if you're determined. Even an air gapped computer in a locked room.
rmuk@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 187d
Good old C-x M-c M-🦋
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 187d
If it isn't hackable then it's hackable.
rabber@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 187d
Weird, I was looking at my dusty xbox one on the shelf yesterday and I looked up if it was hackable yet. It would make such a good TV PC.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 187d
You should look at more things and wonder if they're hackable.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 187d
They can start with my bank account, I could use a sudden unexplained surge of funds...
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 187d
Aaand your crypto wallet is hacked.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 187d
"wait why is there only 1 dogecoin in here?"
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 187d
hodl to the moon?
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 186d
So far this only works on Xbox Ones produced in 2013 I believe.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 187d
Looks at OG Alienware Steam Machine sitting in an enclosed shelf
"Aah a ghost!"
reddig33@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
Satomune@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 186d