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Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 200 pts · 150d (13 replies)

HTML: hatemail

HTTP: hat-top

MSDN: Mastodon

SSH: shhhhh

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 150d (7 replies)

Anybody else ever use HoTMetaL to make a website?

markz@suppo.fi · 31 pts · 150d (3 replies)

Not HoTMaiL?

Or HoTMaLe?

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 150d (1 reply)

HoTtaMaLe

fartographer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d

Don't forget to remove the husk

JackbyDev@programming.dev · 3 pts · 150d

I always thought it was Hotmail, probably because my first email address was using Hotmail and that was sort of my first introduction to computing.

Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Add enough JavaScript frameworks and I'm sure the metal gets very hot indeed.

degen@midwest.social · 2 pts · 149d

Good thing it's not running on bare metal, amirite

einlander@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 150d

I had HotMetal Pro. I got it on a cd in a library book sale.

hperrin@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 149d (1 reply)

PHP: fffffffp

markz@suppo.fi · 2 pts · 149d

Pehp.

m4ylame0wecm@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 150d

hitttup, wuh wuh wuh

A7thStone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 149d

I thought HTML was hate em all.

DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 146d

HTML = hit mill
It's like a machine (mill) that gets you hits (web traffic)

HTTP = hitch tip
It's the tip of the hitch that you attach to the hit mill

GreatRam@lemmy.world · 98 pts · 150d (17 replies)

JSON is pronounced Jason

neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 67 pts · 150d (2 replies)

SCSI was always skuzzy.

idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 150d (1 reply)

DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 149d

Ah, I see, you're a person of culture and distinguished taste.

9point6@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 150d

I feel like this one is relatively uncontroversial

URL pronounced as "earl" however? I'll spend all of my remaining energy in life ensuring the person saying it is stapled to the bottom of the Mariana trench with rebar

kamen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 149d (1 reply)

JSON Statham

Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 149d (8 replies)

I say Jay-sahn.

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 149d (7 replies)

Lots of people do, and it makes no sense.

How do you pronounce "J"?

How do you pronounce "son"?

Now put them together.

dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 149d (4 replies)

Oh I get it!

How do you pronounce "e"?

How do you pronounce "yes"?

Now put them together for "eyes"!

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 149d (1 reply)

Sure, that explains why people pronounce it that way now. What I'm wondering is why people started pronouncing it that way in the first place. When I see the letters JSON, my brain parses it as J-SON. It's even a common first name ffs.

dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 149d

I couldn't say. There is an older guy in my group who calls it "Jason". Also we have 2 guys on my team named Jason and the back end jason now goes by J-Sahn. I have always read it j sahn and I have no idea why.

Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 148d
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 149d

So, how do you say "J" then?

"ᒋ"?

Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 149d (1 reply)

LOL! I wouldn't pronounce "J son" like Jason, either!

"Son" is pronounced "sun". Jason is pronounced Jay-sin.

Also, I've had coworkers named Jason, and I want to be able to say "Use JSON" without it sounding like I'm saying "Use Jason".

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 148d

You sound like a fun person to work with.

unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 149d

It isn't Jason, it's Jayson. But yeah, basically indistinguishable.

And the only sane choice, as opposed to Sequel.

5715@feddit.org · 1 pts · 140d

J-Son ≠ K-Son

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 80 pts · 150d (13 replies)

SQL is pronounced 'Sequel' because it was originaly SEQUEL.

SQL was initially developed at IBM by Donald D. Chamberlin and Raymond F. Boyce after learning about the relational model from Edgar F. Codd[12] in the early 1970s.[13] This version, initially called SEQUEL (Structured English Query Language), was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in IBM's original quasirelational database management system, System R, which a group at IBM San Jose Research Laboratory had developed during the 1970s.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL

It then later evolved, and changed from being an acronym into an initialism, kind of, sort of, mostly for people who are unaware of the etymology.

'Sequel' is quite literally the tradtional way to pronounce it.

NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de · 25 pts · 149d

TIL, thank you. Still not gonna say it like that.

pelya@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 149d

DNS is pronounced 'hosts' because it was originally one big text file.

echodot@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 149d (5 replies)

That would explain why it's only American to I've ever heard referred to it like that. Every European developer I've ever heard referred to it as always called it SQL as would I.

Other DNS is definitely Dennis from now on.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 149d (4 replies)

I too am going to call DNS 'Dennis' from now on, lol.

Yeah I've had some discussions over time with the whole SQL vs Sequel thing, and what I realized was that...

Well basically, I learned 'Sequel' from a bunch of old timers in the Seattle area.

The kind of people who had been writing COBOL since they got back from Vietnam, people who'd actually worked at IBM, still acted like Microsoft was an 'upstart', people who'd just offhand tell me about the one time they got 'deployed' to Saudi Arabia to flash a compromised BIOS onto hardware destined to be used in Saddam's air defense network, prior to the Gulf War.

So, they actually literally were there back when SEQUEL was invented.

Dojan@pawb.social · 2 pts · 149d (3 replies)

I too am going to call DNS 'Dennis' from now on, lol.

I want to do this because I'm sure it's going to tick someone off.

Did you update the Dennis records?

Have you checked if it can reach the Dennis server?

I love it!

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 149d

Also, just a plethora of potential Dennis the Menace jokes.

infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 149d (1 reply)

Whole internet running on the Dennis system, go figure.

Because of the implication

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 149d

Well... the .gov domains are currently run by an orange god emperor... so... pretty close.

yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 149d

Yeah except this name was already taken and then it became SQL, dropping the English.

Even the start of your wiki says:

Structured Query Language (SQL) (pronounced /ˌɛsˌkjuˈɛl/ S-Q-L; or alternatively as /ˈsiːkwəl/

zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 149d (1 reply)

Thanks for making the comment I came to make. I imagine being older and remembering SQL as a new-ish thing really helped cement this, but when I started programming professionally for an enterprise, literally everyone pronounced it like this. I can see how and why it makes little sense to younger people.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 149d

The wild thing is I'm only in my 30s, I'm probably a youngin', compared to you, I just was around a good deal of old timers, real fuckin' wizard types.

undree@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d

Still gonna call it squirrel though

Phoenix3875@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d

Came here to make this comment. So by the same logic, DNS or Domain Name System should have been abbreviated to DoNaS and pronounced dou-NAS.

freezy@discuss.tchncs.de · 64 pts · 150d (1 reply)

zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 149d

This is amazing in its truthfulness.

Codpiece@feddit.uk · 44 pts · 150d (12 replies)

It’s not sequel. It’s squirrel.

Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 150d

Skill. Then you can reply to any database problems your coworkers bring up with "sounds like a skill issue to me".

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 29 pts · 150d (4 replies)

Confusing because there is a DB client called SQuirreL.

But also relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1989/

RustyNova@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 150d (3 replies)

... Just kill me

OpenStars@piefed.social · 6 pts · 149d (2 replies)

Oh my genitals / giantess! 😳

Alberat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 149d (1 reply)

May genitals have mercy on us...

OpenStars@piefed.social · 2 pts · 149d

That must be the part where the giantess comes in? 😜

MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Still wrong. Squeal.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 149d

skull

whimsy@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 150d
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 150d

We pronounce it ancient.

ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 150d

Squl

breadsmasher@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 150d

sometimes its fun to stress wrong letters, like throwing out “ess-Kwall” or “seh-Kwall”

WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 41 pts · 150d (5 replies)

The original product was called SEQUEL. Structured English QUEry Language. They got sued over the name by a company named Sequel, so changed it to SQL but kept calling it sequel, as do we all.

Canopyflyer@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 150d

So say we all

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 149d (3 replies)

Except me who call it Es-Queue-El as language intended.

/Old mans rant off

S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 149d (2 replies)

I call it like that since I'm from SA and I learnt it in english so it was taught to me as an acronym. When learning English I just translated the acronym. Learning the original name is a TIL for me but I'm still calling it like I did fuck it.

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 149d (1 reply)

South Arabia?

I'm from sweden 😁

S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 148d

South America.
Uruguay

sudo@programming.dev · 36 pts · 150d (2 replies)

I had a coworker pronounce URL as Earl.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 149d

Want some URL Grey tea?

5715@feddit.org · 1 pts · 140d

I CAN'T SLOW DOWN!
EARL!

jeffep@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 149d (7 replies)

enjinx

d_k_bo@feddit.org · 5 pts · 149d (1 reply)

Somewhere I heard that it should be pronounced as "Engine X"

netweirdo@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 149d

On their own homepage? still won't stop me tho

MadhuGururajan@programming.dev · 4 pts · 149d (2 replies)

that's how i pronounce it from the very first time i saw it

grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 149d (1 reply)

That's better than me, I was saying en-ginks

MadhuGururajan@programming.dev · 2 pts · 143d

Actually I also pronounce it as en-ginks. The parent comment was not obvious to me

infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 149d (1 reply)

Jurassic Park (InGen) ruined any possibility of me ever pronouncing this the way they want me to. It'll always be In-Gen-Icks out of my lips, like it's a pharmaceutical company.

jeffep@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 149d

In Gen X we trust

Romer@reddthat.com · 22 pts · 150d

Don't you mean, DEE-niss? 8====D <------ There. It's right there.

InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Denise - it's French

nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 150d

You say your name right! Now, dee-NICE!

Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 150d (6 replies)

How do you pronounce PDF file?

OpenStars@piefed.social · 23 pts · 149d

E-p-s-t-e-i-n?

witness_me@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 149d

The orange one

Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d

T-r-u...

zerofk@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 149d

Pee Duff

lena@gregtech.eu · 1 pts · 149d

Similarly, Nazi programmers say "ZIP FILE!!!"

unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 149d

"The most uneditable proprietary shit in the world that's somehow nonproprietary and ultra popular but really has no right to be any of these"

Aka one of the biggest paradoxes of modern computing.

BlackPenguins@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 150d (2 replies)

It's the DENNIS system.

MoffKalast@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 150d (1 reply)

If the nameserver says no, then the answer obviously, is no.

SatyrSack@quokk.au · 4 pts · 149d

But they won't say no. Because of the resolution.

hperrin@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 149d

I like to pronounce them like squeal and dunes.

Charlxmagne@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Bro I heard someone pronounce it squeal before 🫠

flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 150d

That's adorable!

Less so when you consider my rotten syntax

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 149d

denise

5715@feddit.org · 12 pts · 150d (2 replies)

CDN: Codein
DHCP: Dickhead Chilli Peppers

not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 149d (1 reply)

Die Hard Cosplay

5715@feddit.org · 2 pts · 149d

DiHCPic

ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee · 11 pts · 150d

Oh, don't be DeNSe, it's pronounced SQueaL 🐷

lmr0x61@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 150d

It’s always Dennis

AffineConnection@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 150d

zemo@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 150d (6 replies)

I will always judge people who say "sequel"

silentjohn@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 150d (3 replies)

Why? It originated as literally SEQUEL (Structured English Query Language). It only changed because of a trademark conflict.

4am@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 150d

That guy REALLY likes trademarks, apparently

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 149d

Its ok.

Let the script kiddies squeal and squirrel about.

The elder ones ... they were there when the code was written.

zemo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 148d

My native language is not English and saying "sequel" in this language is extremely forced and just not the norm. This bleeds over into English for me.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 150d

Same, but I'm willing to team up with them against people who call it squeal.

xistera@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 149d

I self-taught SQL on the job and was denied a promotion because I said S-Q-L instead of Sequel. The supervisor that was interviewing me for the job ended the interview early because of it. This was almost 10 years ago now and I'm still salty about it.

Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 150d

I didn't need to know this.
Ffs.

And it's exactly what a name server deserves.

Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 149d

I have always called SQL, S Q L.

PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 149d

That's bad logic, obviously if SQL is "sequel" then DNS is "denues."

infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 149d

You know maybe some acronyms just sound good pronounced as words and some just don't, ever think of that?

OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 150d

SQL is pronounced "squirrel"

Prove_your_argument@piefed.social · 4 pts · 150d

There's a system for dennis already.

nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 3 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Why add the extra letter? It's clearly pronounced "Denis"

webkitten@piefed.social · 2 pts · 150d
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icedaemon0@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 149d
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osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org · 3 pts · 150d

Thanks I hate it

toynbee@piefed.social · 3 pts · 150d

We share the same dinna!

dumbass@piefed.social · 2 pts · 150d

I thought it was pronounced Esquelle and Deaness.

coolman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 150d (2 replies)

We really need a good one for DHCP. That shit don't flow off the tongue at all

crowbar@piefed.social · 5 pts · 150d

dennis has-

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 150d

D'oHCuP? Like when you spill your coffee? 🤷🏻

darklamer@feddit.org · 2 pts · 149d

And remember, it's spelled Netscape, but it's pronounced Mozilla.

Ghostie@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 150d
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sanbdra@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d

Now I’m never going to read DNS the same way again 😭

webkitten@piefed.social · 2 pts · 150d
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Lime66@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 150d

It's pronounced squirrel? Smh my head

arcine@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 138d

If char is pronounced "care" then surely arr is pronounced "urr"

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 149d
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MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 149d
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tod@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 149d
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grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 149d

We used to pronounce UPDTE as "upditty" (this is a JCL reference. Be happy if you don't get it)

RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 150d (7 replies)

SQL is pronounced Squirrel.

squirrel@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 150d (5 replies)

True

RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 150d (4 replies)

dumbass@piefed.social · 5 pts · 150d (1 reply)

RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 150d

God is coming.

protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 150d (1 reply)

a staple of desktop

RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 150d

God is coming

RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 149d

Oddly divisive post. Ya'll doing ok?