The Treasury Department plans to print President Donald Trump’s signature on every new U.S. paper bill. Treasury announced the idea Thursday.
US Treasury plans to put Trump's signature on new paper currency in first for sitting president
https://apnews.com/article/trump-currency-signiture-treasury-first-d919877e39f907eba1172a07920ea80e
121 Comments
JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz · 233 pts · 172d
I'm impressed at their creativity in devaluing the dollar in a new way every day!
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 172d
and Gold down
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 171d
I've heard people are selling to buy oil
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · -5 pts · 172d
I'm really surprised that BTC has dived alongside it. You would think people would see the risks of a compromised state-owned currency and want to flee towards a decentralized alternative (which is currently below 70K down from it's all time high of 123K).
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 35 pts · 172d
Bitcoin is more centralized than the dollar. Most is owned but a few large holders, the whales.
It is a poor store of value as it is hard to access in an emergency. Has no utility beyond storing value, unlike gold or silver or shares or bonds. The reason people put their money there is not to escape the fiat system or to make transfers easier (both valid use cases). It's to try and make a quick buck. Unfortunately, most won't. As more and more start to lose money, it will continue to drop.
The technology is sound but the processing speed and acceptance and cost to process transactions, computationally and in dollar value makes it useless for its stated purpose. Which was part of the design.
As card prices have gone up, and energy prices for up, mining Bitcoin becomes uneconomical, so I'd expect less hype and many players to exit leaving others holding the bag.
It may resurge when there are cheap cards after an ai crash. However, I don't see Bitcoin taking over as a payment system replacing the existing banking system. Even Europe faces with visa and MasterCard being a risk for payment processing after American fuckery aren't looking at Bitcoin as the answer. They are looking at block chain technology, though, as being part of the solution.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · -1 pts · 172d
Market cap on BTC is 21M coins and the largest individual owner has 1.1M coins while the next two largest owners is 70k coins and 30k coins respectively. I think a small country and the FBI are also major holders.
The capability for those owners to devalue it via selloff is infinitely less than the capability of a country to devalue its currency via selloff, inflation from minting and loan interest rates, poor trade practices, etc.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 172d
A country devaluing their currency has negative effects for them. So they don't have incentive to do so. Even with hyperinflation in countries like Argentina, people start to use a different currency, like the dollar.
For Bitcoin I'm just copying and pasting: Top 10 addresses: The 10 richest Bitcoin wallets (excluding Satoshi Nakamoto’s dormant holdings) collectively hold roughly 1.1 million BTC, about 5.5% of the total supply. Top 100 addresses: The 100 largest wallets control approximately 2.9 million BTC, around 14–15% of the circulating supply. “Whale” wallets (>1,000 BTC): There are 2,000–2,100 addresses that each hold at least 1,000 BTC (worth $100+ million apiece). Collectively, these large holders own over 36% of all Bitcoin.
This also assumes that wallets are individual people. Some wallets may be only part of some holdings and the same entity might have multiple addresses.
In the case of Bitcoin if they decide it's not viable and want to sell, there is no negative effect for them once their holdings are gone, should their sale cause a crash. Theat level of control of the market is unheard of. Even looking at the plays on GBP in the past, it was based on much smaller amounts.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 172d
Assuming a world of only rational actors only takes you further away from reality.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 172d
Haha, true that. However, I'm pretty sure the whales will act in their interest. Financially or otherwise.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · -1 pts · 172d
And you should, but it's foolish to think that the nations will.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 9 pts · 172d
If bitcoin is valued at $70k it’s still over valued by $70k.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 172d
It's not designed for used as a currency. A block gets mined every ten minutes and can contain only 3000 transactions.
For comparison, Mastercard processes 3000 transactions in 0.15 seconds instead of ten minutes.
Can you imagine being in a store and waiting your payment to be confirmed in 2-3 blocks to avoid double spending
30 minutes to confirm (if paid enough for fees) vs 0.15 seconds
And so much efficient!
To mine one block, the global network consumes approximately 2.5 to 3.0 GWh. 3000 transactions = 1 MWh per transaction
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · -3 pts · 172d
That's like the same concern as waiting in the store for two weeks while the bank transfers cash via armored truck to the store's bank. That's not how anything works.
Mastercard and Visa have been threatening to shut down online platforms they don't like, recently they blacklisted a judge from the international justice court for ruling against Israel. And hey, if we suddenly want to release the IBM source code and banking secrets which are the backbone of almost all modern transactions, I'm all for it.
The only reason to use BTC is its adoption rate being so much higher than any other cryptocurrency.
Also, the majority of power wasted is due to competing miners racing to mine the same blocks, which is presumably about to end given the 21M coin limit and the 20M mined so far in 2026.
But let's not pretend to care about the power for digital transactions when we as a collective race are spending terawatts generating AI Porn and writing worthless inaccurate articles.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
It is a concern when by design you can literally spend the money again within ten minutes by choosing an higher fee.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 171d
Bitcoin is not a currency. Its design inherently makes it deflationary, i.e. rising in value. This immediately means that people are gonna use it as an investment instead of spending it.
unmagical@lemmy.ml · 134 pts · 172d
The exact opposite of this is true.
MuffinPenguin@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 172d
Wait, are you saying that U.S. Treasurer Brandon Beach didn't say this or that it isn't appropriate or well-deserved? /serious
unmagical@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 172d
I was claiming that the treasurer lied.
MuffinPenguin@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 172d
Oh okay. Thanks. ^_^
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 172d
Tanking everything else but the net-worth of his billionaires/buddies is what he stands for.
So obviously they think it's well deserved.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 120 pts · 172d
What a great way to ensure all money is defaced and will cost extra to constantly reissue it.
I will be sure to write child fucker under his name on every note I see.
uberdroog@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 172d
How long before the first person dies because the cops try and arrest someone who defaced one.
GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 172d
If that’s the case it better be the cop.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 171d
Only technically illegal if it's done with intent to change the face value, advertise commercial services, or to remove it from circulation. Since it's still spendable, not advertising, and we would want these altered bills to continue circulating, it wouldn't be a crime.
It's not going to stop them from harassing the artist though.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 171d
You’re still acting like we have the rule of law in this dictatorship.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 172d
There will be far too many to track.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 20 pts · 172d
Oh yeah, I'm going to vandalize every one that goes through my hands. Traitor, Pedophile, rapist, draw a dick in mouth, coming on his face, etc. And I'm going to take photos of any good ones I see before passing them along.
At first I was pissed about it, but now I'm going to have fun.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 171d
Yeah, it actually gives me an idea for a stamp… Sort of like those “where is George” stamps that people put on $1 bills.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 41 pts · 172d
Pretty sure its illegal but its less illegal than his face on it.
flabbergast@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 172d
"Illegal" never stopped him...
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 19 pts · 172d
You'd be surprised, the courts blocked most of his federal worker firings from DOGE and forced him to renew funding to Medicaid, SNAP, and other federal programs. They've shut down ICE camps before, lots of ongoing cases such as U.S. District Judge Zahid N. Quraishi refusing to even hear the DOJ's case for DHS detaining without warrants or hearings unless all 3 highest level DOJ officers testify under oath.
There has been a lot of capitulation by the courts to the Trump Admin, we haven't been able to prevent ICE building camps for the most part and we weren't able to save USAID, but there has been a lot of resistance as well and I don't think enough credit is given for that.
flabbergast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
Good to know indeed, thanks!
GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 172d
Oh I’m sure they’ll rule it illegal 10 years from now, once those damn bills are circulating everywhere.
FanciestPants@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 172d
What, with like an auto-pen or something?
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 172d
Right if he hasn't signed it himself it can't be legal tender
RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 172d
Good night. You won the internet today.
Edit: From the Jerk
https://youtu.be/oHmXja12Vy4
DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 171d
He's a little older than Trump, but I guess aging far better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Martin#Personal_life
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 171d
Script font off 1001fonts.com
Linktank@lemmy.today · 32 pts · 172d
einlander@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 172d
I might go all in on contactless payment.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 18 pts · 172d
Capitulation to the techbros in advance
MuffinPenguin@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 172d
Yes, never forget that those fuckers are in on this too.
In every fascist system, the capitalist elite always buddy up to the ones in power because to not do so threatens that capital and, thus, their wealth.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 5 pts · 172d
I'm thinking gold and those colorful European dollarydoos.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 171d
Barter system. Time to go redistribute some farm animals to my garage and learn how to blacksmith.
Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 172d
Just turn them into the bank as counterfeit.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 171d
The Pedodollar
green_goglin@thelemmy.club · 30 pts · 171d
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 170d
+1...Thank you for using the correct flags too.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 171d
Epstein dollar
SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 172d
I will redact his name on every one I get.
Stock market tip: BUY stock in sharpies.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 172d
I think the people stating above that they will write things like rapist pedophile and such makes more sense. Basically demands they keep reprinting more and throwing it out costing them much more
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 172d
Money shouldn't have anyone's signature. Such ugly vanity should be illegal.
pupbiru@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 172d
australia’s notes all have tiny signatures of the governor of the reserve bank, and the secretary to the treasury and have for at least as long as i can remember… i don’t think it’s a vanity thing in that case
jwt@programming.dev · 8 pts · 171d
US also puts the signature of the Secretary of Treasury on it. This was Jacob Lew's:
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 171d
US bills already have the signature of the Treasury Secretary
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 172d
Yeah i was just thinking this,
Other fun facts there's the poem from a man from snowy River on our 10 dollar note
mcv@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 171d
The signature of the president of the treasury that has always been on the bills had nothing to do with vanity, but with the president of the bank issuing the money guaranteeing the value of the money.
But who is going to trust the value of money guaranteed by Donald Trump?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 171d
Everything trump touches turns to shit.
The dollar is toast.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 172d
Just begging to be defaced.
metallic_substance@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 172d
I certainly will. I'll start carrying a sharpie wherever I go for the express purpose
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 171d
Make him sign them all manually.
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 172d
A pedo stamp on every bill. They really want to lose reserve currency status quickly.
green_goglin@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 171d
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 171d
These bills are the first to fuel the fireplace during the Greater Depression.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 171d
Make America Great(ly depressed) Again
DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 171d
"Three hundred buys you a sandwich. We have ham or cheese."
https://youtu.be/MCzoTxpwKPM?t=26
Etterra@discuss.online · 13 pts · 172d
Makes me glad I almost never handle cash then.
Though if I do wind up with money with his name scrawled on it I'm gonna take it somewhere to trade it in with some nice, elaborate (but polite) commentary on the Orange graffiti.
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 172d
real graffiti can be really nice and expressive art
Etterra@discuss.online · 0 pts · 172d
It can be but it's usually just some dipshit scrawling his name on things.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 171d
Was going to say...
Who even carries paper currency on them?
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 167d
My 74 year old dad lol
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 171d
I get paid in cash.
DougHolland@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 170d
People who don't necessarily want a public record of their every purchase.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 170d
Well... enjoy your TrumpBux
DougHolland@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 170d
Might tucker out after a few months, but I'll at least start by checking every bill at the bank and asking for exchanges. "Give me currency without that scumbag's signature, please."
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 172d
FUCK THE PEDODOLLAR
RAPEBUCKS ARE GROSS
Also known as:
Corruption Cabbage
Deadbrain Presidents
TACO Cheddar
Shitbacks
Tiny Ones
Loser Lettuce
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 171d
this is going to devalue the dollar massively
reddit_sux@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 171d
Will it be the same signature that was on the Epstein letter. I hate that.
Or will it be the one from his executive orders. I hate that.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 171d
At the rate things are going, it may be cheaper to burn those bills for warmth this coming winter than it will be to pay the electric/gas/oil bills we're going to experience. Just sayin'.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 171d
German hyperinflation might agree with you.
AniZaeger@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 171d
18 U.S.C. § 333 says that's a crime punishable by fines, 6 months in prison, or both. I'm sure they'll probably consider that as 1 count for each piece of currency destroyed. Then they'll tack on more prison time for failure to pay the fines you can't afford because the government made your money worthless. Combine that with the 13th amendment loophole, and you've got yourself a cash cow primed and ready to be milked by the private prisons and staffing agencies of the good ol' US of A.
Ya know, Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" was supposed to have taken in 2026...
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 171d
God I hate it here.
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 171d
If it helps, people elsewhere hate it there too.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 172d
It is so tragice for our US cousins that they have a spoiled and soiled baby in the Whitehouse.
I'd like to think they won't do this (to the rest of the world) again, but he is already in his second term saying that he will be here for longer.
The world must move away from the Dollar for its own safety.
Toothy@lemmus.org · 5 pts · 171d
Some of your US cousins think things are going to get very 1776 around here if there is impactful election Interference this November.
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 171d
This whole Iran arc is making me feel like crypto is eventually going to be more legitimate than the US dollar 💀
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 170d
In a way, some cryptos already are because they're more regulated in how new coins get created whereas the US can just print more dollars at will
WatDabney@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 172d
So this makes me wonder about legends of demonic possession.
In a sense, it could be said that Donald Trump is not President of the United States, because Donald Trump in a sense doesn't even exist as an individual. Instead, he's essentially a vehicle for his gargantuan ego. He's really just a sort of mindless zombie, lurching from one thing to another as his ego dictates.
Which makes me wonder if that was really the way he would've been seen in a more primitive past - as if the person who should be inside of him had somehow been pushed aside and he was possessed by a ravening demon. And if that's the way that other delusional egomaniacs like him were seen in the past.
flabbergast@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 172d
I'd watch this movie!
voidsignal@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 172d
nah. he's just a poor sad old half dead pedo motherfucker
WatDabney@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 171d
Nobody said he wasn't.
I'm not even really talking about Trump per se - he's just the inspiration. Reading the linked story, and with all of the past similarly insane things he's said and done, it struck me that he almost doesn't even exist as a person. Rather, he's more like just a vehicle for his ego (and, now that you mention it, for his lusts and his delusions). As if, where other people have thoughts and ideas and beliefs, he just has the incessant yammering of his ego (etc.).
And then that in turn got me to wondering if that was part of the origin of myths of demonic possession - if people more or less like him in the past were seen by others the same basic way that I see him - as if whatever personality he should have had has been pushed aside by his overwhelming ego (etc.).
Or in their more primitive interpretation, by a demon.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 171d
This gave me vibes of that recent show "Evil" except it's set in modern times
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 9 pts · 172d
Sycophants and psychopaths all the way down
merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 171d
Look, this one has the chimp scribble on it!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 172d
That's one way to destroy the cash economy...
tristynalxander@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 171d
RidderSport@feddit.org · 1 pts · 171d
In all seriousness, it would be hilarious of that were to happen all pver the country, completely eroding trust in the dollar.
Might I interest you in some juicy Euros?
Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 172d
This must be how they plan to sell America on crypto.
trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 171d
Its so transparent it would make a jellyfish jealous
Maeve@kbin.earth · 7 pts · 172d
As if the USD wasn't filthy enough...
MrsVeggies@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 171d
Disgusting. What a narcisist.
kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 172d
Just DEI already
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 172d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 171d
at $500B a month borrowing, that's a lot of signatures. It will keep him busy.
autumnfallsforbait@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 172d
sure why not just do anything atp
Bwaz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 171d
Eeeww... pubic hair drawn on a dollar bill? Yuck.
DonPiano@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 170d
Step 1: Collect short phrases capturing the dumbest and most heinous things he's done, and manufacture rubber stamps with said phrases.
Step 2:?
Step 3: Profit!
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 171d
Invest in X-Acto knives and a cutting mat before prices skyrocket
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 170d
Monarchs and dictators do that kind of shit all the time. It will be known as the former petro dollar.
bagsy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 171d
how do i fight the urge to burn trump dollars? I love dollars, but i hate trump with the fire of 1000 suns. I'm going to be so confused.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 171d
Trump territory-marks everything.
DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 171d
wp:United States dollar#Exchange rates
The Euro and Swiss franc are looking strong against the US dollar. The pound is still strong, too.
also after a quick search:
https://www.facebook.com/CableCarLounge/
(222 Powell St, San Francisco, CA, United States, California)
billybob@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 171d
We should all wipe our ass with it and then mail it to the White House
SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org · 2 pts · 171d
Going to have to check all those bills are real and use a sharpie across his sig.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 172d
aaaand this is how you get me to put my savings into BTC.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 172d
Don't fight stupid with stupid. It's easy to go paperless for most purchases, and if they insist on paper you write a goddamn check with your OWN goddamn signature on it.
florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 62d
On this episode of “imagine if Obama did it”…..
CircaV@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 171d
Aaaaaaaand yet another thing Americans do nothing about.