Europe has “maybe 6 weeks or so (of) jet fuel left,” the head of the International Energy Agency said Thursday in a wide-ranging Associated Press interview, warning of possible flight cancellations “soon” if oil supplies remain blocked by the Iran war.
IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol painted a sobering picture of the global repercussions of what he called “the largest energy crisis we have ever faced,” stemming from the pinch-off of oil, gas and other vital supplies through the Strait of Hormuz.
“In the past there was a group called ‘Dire Straits.’ It’s a dire strait now, and it is going to have major implications for the global economy. And the longer it goes, the worse it will be for the economic growth and inflation around the world,” he said.
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StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social · 98 pts · 124d
can we stop calling it iran war and start calling it usa and israels expansionist war?
gigachad@piefed.social · 53 pts · 124d
To be fair, we usually also call it Ukraine war instead of Russo-Ukranian war or just Russian invasion or Russia Expansionist war. Makes it not less wrong, but you need to admit Iran war is a little shorter than your suggestion.
cravl@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 124d
Names with the same or fewer syllables as "Iran War":
DevDave@piefed.social · 2 pts · 122d
I am partial to "Operation Epstein Fury" or OEF2
cravl@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 108d
Operation Orange Fury makes the acronym OOF, which is also vaguely funny. I should go to bed now. 😅
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 124d
Vietnam War
Iraq War
Ukraine War
Iran War
It's just a continuation of the tradition of naming wars where a single country gets invaded by another after that country.
magnue@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 123d
It's almost like we name the war after the location where the fighting takes place.
StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social · 4 pts · 124d
Shorter is better, so how about UIE war? :D
Anyway it was more about calling it iran war makes it sound like iran started it
gigachad@piefed.social · 5 pts · 124d
I see where you I coming from, but I think it is short for war in iran, which makes kind of sense. UIE war on the other hand is really hard to pronounce though lol
StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social · 2 pts · 124d
[you-ay-ee] war? :D
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 124d
No, it's the Epstein war
frank@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 124d
Epstein Files War? Wouldn't wanna bait him with Trump War I
rimu@piefed.social · 1 pts · 123d
Gulf War 3
sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 122d
Technically, it's the "Stop talking about the Trump and Epstein child rape crimes War"
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 75 pts · 124d
Can we get this map (Paris before and after cycling was pushed) but for the entire atmosphere once the jet fuel runs out?
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 14 pts · 124d
Paris has to remove the low emission zone so old polluting cars are back in the city. Parliament just approved that.
Hacksaw@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 123d
This is a total disaster, like 2 days ago.... I guess we're going right back to the first map.
https://brusselssignal.eu/2026/04/france-backpedals-and-cancels-low-emission-zones-for-cars/
someguy3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 124d
After much thought and googling, really that's before and after dieselgate.
NO2 is a notorious byproduct of diesel engines at 10x the rate of gasoline cars. Dieselgate cars emitted 40x the legal amount. You can't quite do this, but roughly that means a dieselgate vehicle emitted 400x the NO2 of a gasoline car. Aka a single dieselgate vehicle was equivalent of 400 gasoline cars.
Now let's get the absolute number of cars. France had 984,064 dieselgate affected vehicles. Paris has about 19% of France's population. Assuming equal ownership that's 186,972 dieselgate affected cars in paris. At 400x the emissions of gasoline cars that's the equivalent of a whopping 74,788,800 gasoline cars.
So replacing the dieselgate affected cars with gasoline cars (apparently the popularity of diesel peaked around then and has been declining since) is the equivalent of removing 74,788,800 - 186,972 = 74,601,828 vehicles off the road in paris alone.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 25 pts · 124d
Dieselgate was 2015 so the change between 2020 and 2024 definitely was bikes, seen by how the main car roads are still horrible and emission standards havent been tightened enough to create such a big change. It really is just less cars driven and less space where cars are allowed.
https://archive.ph/TdJ8A
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 123d
My car actually had a dieselgate recall in 2024. They didn't do them all at once.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 124d
It's the same plot, unless you're trying to split hairs between 2022 and 2024. The big change red to yellow/green is dieselgate.
Also, the fix for dieselgate was not isolated to 2015. That shit took years to get the vehicles off the road.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 124d
The difference between the plots is quite significant. Also european NOx emission standards for passenger cars have been unchanged since 2014 for diesel and petrol with diesel emissions only being ~33% higher than petrol which means there would definitely not be such a drastic change just from diesel being phased out. Also dieselgate was actually the "Volkswagen emissions scandal" meaning it affected Volkswagen cars and has therefore basically nothing to do with these stats about Paris because the french VW market share is ~7%. Also the thing is that the color of the roads in 2017 is basically the same for all of the roads, but since 2020 there is a clear shift to the big ring road, meaning there wasnt just a reduction but also a clear shift in where the cars drive. Clearly the pollution is highly localized so this change of banning cars from the inner city significantly improved air conditions for everyone but the people living right next to the big roads.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 123d
VW was far from the only one cheating emissions, the were just the first to get caught. Other manufacturers have recalled cars too AFAIK.
Did you also include Audi, Porsche, SEAT, Škoda? Those are also VW brands and use the same engines. There's a few others but those are the ones I know use the diesels.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 124d
Plot 1 was 2007 to 2022. Plot 2 was 2007 to 2024.
Uhh this is about dieselgate illegally breaking the limits, not what the legal limits were/are.
I added the math to my original comment. France had 984,064 affected vehicles.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 124d
Yes and im saying dieselgate is irrelevant because it only involved VW cars which again only makes up for a small percentage of cars in france. VW cars alone wouldnt have been enough to create such a big change by themselves.
Thats around 2.6% of the estimated 38 million cars in france, so not a really important factor when the NOx reduction is something like 70% since 2007.
someguy3@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 124d
See my original comment for the math. The effect is staggering.
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 124d
I think your math is confusing people here:
"Dieselgate cars emitted 40x the legal amount."
40x the legal amount FOR DIESEL.
"roughly that means a dieselgate vehicle emitted 400x the NO2 of a gasoline car."
You're arguing that the legal amount for diesel is 10x that of a gasoline car, and by exceeding that 40x, they are more or less 400x a single gasoline car.
Now I don't know if any of that is actually TRUE or not, I'm seeing a lot of the weaselly "up to 40x", not that it was ACTUALLY 40X. It might have been 25x on average, we don't really know. Still awful.
But the piece you're missing is that dieselgate didn't impact ALL diesel vehicles, it was specific to Volkswagen group. So only VW and Audi, and even then, only the TDI models.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 122d
Well, first off, VW also includes SEAT, Škoda and Porsche that also use their diesel engines (Porsche no longer does after Dieselgate).
I'm also not sure what you mean by "only the TDI models". They haven't been making naturally aspirated models in decades. They're pretty uncommon these days.
Secondly, VAG was the first to get caught, but many manufacturers were cheating. Including Renault and Citroën, which I imagine might be moderately common in France.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d
Uh no I'm saying the actual amount is 40x and 10x. Not legal, actual.
And uh no I clearly have the number for specifically dieselgate affected vehicles. (Well 10x is for all diesel if you're thinking of only that. 40x was dieselgate and "France had 984,064 dieselgate affected vehicles.)
neo2478@sh.itjust.works · 60 pts · 124d
This is a good time for the EU to get its shit together on their train networks. Make one central portal for booking trains Europe wide, remove the no fuel tax subsidies and no VAT for airlines and apply them for trains instead, and invest in a network of night trains.
mondoman712@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 124d
The European Rail Passengers Union recently started and is looking to advocate for solutions to some of these issues.
neo2478@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 123d
This is great! I signed up to try to help. Thanks for sharing!
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 123d
"Best we can do is Hydrogen jets"
bitteroldcoot@piefed.social · 37 pts · 124d
So do people not understand that this is game over? We are in a zombie economy, it may still be walking but in reality it's dead.
Even if the straits open tomorrow, planting season is ending with out the needed fertilizer. Smelters and pot lines for aluminum, iron and glass are going cold. They can't just be restarted, cold idle make them giant bricks and damages them. Pharmaceutical manufacturing is shutting down, and also can't just be restarted. Clean rooms must be re-certified before restart. Similar problems for micro chips production that uses helium from the gulf.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 20 pts · 124d
The global economy is having its Wiley E. Coyote moment. The floor is gone, but gravity isn't doing its thing yet.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 121d
It's fucking terrifying. And it makes me angry because it was all so avoidable. All the Untied States government had to do was enforce its fucking rules
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org · 25 pts · 124d
So ... maybe we should reduce the number of flights right now? And maybe check which flights are serving a real purpose and which are just flying people around who want to shop or get wasted.
smeg@infosec.pub · 44 pts · 124d
Ban private and charter flights. Only high volume commercial flights
rayyy@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 124d
Did Europe thank the orange pedophile though?
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 20 pts · 124d
Good. Excellent 👌
ZonenRanslite@feddit.org · 12 pts · 124d
Why?
HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social · 35 pts · 124d
Less pollution. Maybe people will finally learn to use trains again.
blackn1ght@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 124d
I'd love to use trains, but they're so much slower and way more expensive. A return journey cuts into some very precious, limited time off.
I'm going to Berlin soon and I checked out the rail option first, it it's just unfeasible.
plactagonic@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 124d
This 100% is the problem with bad policy.
Maybe it will get at least bit more possible after the new railway EU legislation passes this year but I am not that hopeful because they are just bunch of idiots flying business jets and don't understand the problems there.
Tbh it is big lobby by national railway companies like SNCF that slow the prgress way down, they should really pull out their heads from their asses and recognise that cross European travel isn't that much competition.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 124d
If rail could be cheaper I'd take the time to use it. But when a flight takes for hours is significantly cheaper it's hard to justify 12 hours on a train or more
HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social · -23 pts · 124d
Berlin?! What sort of a awful place you live that you want to go to Berlin? Its just gray and concrete, horrible place.
fatcat@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 124d
Visited recently and I loved it! Met so many nice people and visited so many interesting things. And I come from a very pretty city. ;)
HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social · -3 pts · 124d
I must have upset some Berliners with my silly joke :D Funny how I got upvotes when making the same joke about France :--D
Anyway, I'm glad you liked it. But in these trying times, I'd suggest people to travel more locally. But as a misanthrope, the faster we burn ourselves off the planet, the better it is for the fishes and whatnot =D
blackn1ght@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 124d
My friend lives in the Netherlands, and we don't see each other very often. It's for a big birthday celebration for myself so it's a bit of a one off trip, I've always wanted to go to Berlin. I think my last trip away was possibly 10 years ago!
fatcat@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 124d
I agree, local travel is the way. I went there by train, so I guess that still counts. :D But I would wish train travel would be more affordable and EASY. So complicated to book trains which go borders. You really have to know all the tricks to get a good price. But I will train interrail that summer I think, let's see how that goes.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 4 pts · 124d
How tf am I going to travel from India to Singapore? Or Vietnam? Or France?
(Not actually going anywhere but giving examples)
leave_it_blank@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 124d
Don't. Or pay premium. If it's business let the company pay for it. If not, maybe just don't go.
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 124d
I mean, realistically, countries won't run out. Ticket prices will rise and price out some users.
goes looking
There are also apparently a few large propeller-driven planes still out there that use aviation gasoline. Gasoline prices are also up, but I assume not as badly as jet fuel, given that diesel prices are up more than gasoline and jet fuel is close to diesel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-6
That's still in use, technically can do a New York-London flight (though I imagine that in real life, you'd stop in Reykjavik to maintain a safety buffer), and uses aviation gasoline. It's got a cruising speed of 315 mph, though, compared to a (jet-based) Boeing 777's 554 mph.
EDIT: Oh, but the only DC-6s that are still in use are in a cargo configuration.
EDIT2: Red Bull apparently operates one DC-6 in a passenger configuration.
wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 124d
That's missing the point of maybe we don't need to travel indiscriminately?
Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 124d
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ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 124d
🪂
HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social · 1 pts · 124d
Why the hell would you want to go to France?!
Jokes aside, boats, ships, trains, buses, bicycle, hitchhiking, kayaking, walking, crawling, doing cartwheels. Theres a whole bunch of options.
Or you could just stay home or travel locally until the situation improves.
bitteroldcoot@piefed.social · -3 pts · 124d
The example you need is called Zoom, or face time or.... Really this is just covid all over again.
edit: Wow, that's a surprising amount of hostility. The fossil fuel world is ending, do people not realize this?
StillAlive@piefed.world · 4 pts · 124d
Video calling Eiffel Tower on WhatsApp is not a good alternative, imo
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 124d
Official Eiffel Tower website:
https://www.toureiffel.paris/en/news/recreation/virtual-tour-eiffel-tower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWKb5r-UMt8
Though...hah. They don't allow viewing it in the US. Very French.
investigates
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I guess you could use a VPN with an exit node in Europe or a US territory --- which, oddly-enough, they do allow --- or something.
EDIT: Here's a link that bounces through Canada and can view it:
https://inv.thepixora.com/watch?v=hWKb5r-UMt8
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 124d
The fossil fuel world isn't going anywhere. As soon as supply is restored no one will have learned anything and nothing will be done to reduce reliance.
appoloin@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 124d
World cup will be cancelled.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 25 pts · 124d
So it is all good news?
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 124d
I can get only so wet pleaeese stap!
albbi@piefed.ca · 12 pts · 124d
Because of a war started by the FIFA Peace Prize winner!
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 124d
News keeps getting better.
bassad@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 123d
Why? Players could take sailboats, games could be seen on screens at local stadiums, organized by cities. I hope it would be how future events go.
So corrupt Fifa would be fucked with their overpriced tickets AND bus fares to stadiums
DisgruntledPelican@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 123d
The Epstein distraction war will have to stop.
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social · 9 pts · 124d
Brothers in Arms will have to go Down to the Waterline with their Six Blade Knife to save us from Industrial Disease.
sober_monk@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 124d
It's not easy when the whole world runs on Heavy Fuel.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 6 pts · 124d
And the birds up on the wires and the telegraph poles They can always fly away from this rain and this cold You can hear them singing out their telegraph code All the way down the telegraph road
LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 124d
Love the Dire Straits reference 🤘
Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 124d
All thanks to terrorists trump
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 124d
So in six week we will have back out nights that were stolen some years ago by a dubious permission for night flights?
Maeve@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 124d
Same playbook: starve states until they not only bend the knee but kiss the dirt.
libre_warrior@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 124d
win
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 121d
Lot of people going to get stranded
smeg@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 124d
They said this 2 weeks ago. Forever running out, but never getting there
HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social · 10 pts · 124d
Few weeks ago it was a specific airline company CEO said that their specific company had 6 weeks of fuel left. Now its the head of International Energy Agency saying that the whole of Europe has 6 weeks of jet fuel left.
Two completely different things.