He went to Saudi Arabia to make money and lost many fans. Myself included, those fuck faces killed and dismembered a journalist and deserve no international respect.
I mean it's not even that he went to Saudi Arabia and did this absurd show. It's how he handled the Fallout. If he had just handled it like a comedian by making a joke he probably would have been fine. He said "I'm sorry but you know I needed the money have you see my wife's Instagram page?" Or something like that he probably could have emerge somewhat unscathed. Battered but unbroken. But the way he handle it was just so tone deaf and so patronizing and so God damn absurd that a lot of it just had to tune out.
That was my gripe, too. Any one of them could have said, âI know itâs an awful regime, but I went to go give a lot of regular Saudis who live in an oppressive state a chance to laugh and have some real fun.â and I would have said, âYou know, thatâs fair.â, but for some reason not a single one of them did.
This is interesting because the US government has clearly been very friendly with the Saudi regime for decades, supports monarchy / authoritarianism there militarily and diplomatically, developed the petrodollar system with them which saves the average American household thousands of dollars a year and allows the US government to run a $40 trillion dollar debt with favorable interest rates. Several advantages America has over other Western nations and the rest of the world come from this partnership.
In a sense every American makes money off of Saudi Arabia and doesn't realize it. Perhaps that's something they didn't consent to so they shouldn't be held accountable. But if the petrodollar ended tomorrow, inflation in the US would spike almost immediately through currency devaluation and a bond crisis would likely follow.
The first morally logical step would be to petition one's own government to stop supporting the Saudi monarchy militarily and diplomatically.
Tl;dr: The US is the reason Saudi Arabia has international legitimacy and respect. If anyone wants to change that, start with them.
Well that just makes the US government look worse. I'm all for bringing down theocratic monarchies but if one's democratically elected government is the only thing propping that up, it would make much more sense to direct the rage there, within a system that answers to its people. Either that or it looks like they're enjoying the financial benefits of the partnership quietly while engaging in moral grandstanding outwardly.
If one's morality is on a firm foundation, petition your government to bring an end to the petrodollar. The Saudi monarchy will fall as you wish for it to. Anything less amounts to hipocrisy.
imagine if your dad died in 9/11 and you STILL went to perform like a dancing little monkey for the guys that ordered those planes flown into those towers....
I think a lot of people don't realize how much power they have when they become popular. That their shitty ideals will spread like wildfire if not kept under control. Once money gets involved people do wild shit.
Ooh! I can answer this! He made a joke about someone in his life that was trans. It hit the media that he was doing jokes about trans people. So he tried to explain how he wasn't transphobic by telling a bunch of actual transphobic jokes, which was certainly a choice that was made. That turned a lot of people off, so he followed the laughs.
The first "new" Chappelle special is wonderful! No more offensive to any one group than any other. His follow up was mostly good, but some cringing at some bad takes. Clips thereafter are pretty.... Well, you see what thread we are in. đ
Young Dave Chappelle was the greatest comedian of all time
He still has some sparks of brilliance here and there.
Chappelle saw an underfilled market for a kind-of Chris Rock "what white people think black people sound like" comic material and crammed himself into the role.
Then he saw an underfilled market for a Bill Cosby "what older white people want to hear black people complain about" comic material and crammed himself into that role.
And now he sounds like a cringe mix of Chris Rock meets Bill Cosby, which is exactly what Trad MAGA gooners will pay out the nose to see.
While I still think Chappell is talented if he actually put more effort,
Man his comedy has gone downhill. Itâs not a skill thing, itâs a: âI care about money and I know Iâm gonna make enough anywayâ kind of attitude.
IMO this is why artists should never be payed too much. They should make what a good doctor makes, not enough to âbuild a brandâ
He was always this way. Born to upper-middle-class parents, growing up in the suburbs, cosplaying aa an urban poor black person to grift white people put of their money. Punching down on Mexicans and Asians, anyone he could to be profitable. Now it's trans people, but the grift has always been the same.
He has a pretty well known interview where he whines about not being able to make fun of gay people and says something about how Comedy Central didn't mind him making fun of black people and...
Well, Dave, I don't know if anyone mentioned this to you but you're black and not gay.
If he's always at some level just never really identified with other black people, or at least the poor ones, that would make a lot of things about that disconnect make sense.
When they become too rich they start making bits like "isn't going to the Bentley dealership the worst?" or "oh I hate it when I can't book first class and I have to travel on business cramped with all the others"
I've noticed that once comedians "hit it big" and can live off of the royalties that their specials generate, their comedy tends to go way downhill and they start using future performances as almost soapbox-adjacent platforms rather than writing actual jokes that people find funny. They don't need to write funny material to live off of anymore, they can just ride on their fame and sell out venues wherever they go, so it becomes more of a speaking gig rather than an act.
Like, I remember sitting down during the pandemic with a few friends to watch one of Chappell's new specials and it was just him ranting the whole time, there might have been one or two jokes in there, but I think that was just his personality coming forward and not any conscious effort to deliver a setup and a punchline. It was such a letdown, because we were set for a night of comedy and it was just an angry rant with serious undertones.
Maybe just anecdotal, but that's how I see it going for a lot of famous comedians - not all of them, of course, but a lot of the household names from the past two decades have gone this route rather than segueing into showbiz like comics from the 90's era.
There is a video of Ricky Gervais, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld and Louis CK talking about comedy and their different approaches. This was before we knew about Louis CK but it was enlightening on how different the approaches are and I appreciated the difference between CK and Seinfeld. Seinfeld basically does the same act every year and changes maybe 20% at most. CK does an entirely new act each time. I did respect his decision to rewrite his whole performance each time he changes it.
Unfortunately things are where we are at now but I think someone said prior and Carlin would do the same thing and they are some of the greats in comedy
I sat my girlfriend down to watch Robin Williams' Live on Broadway set because it was stuck in my mind as the greatest comedy show of all time. I love that man and miss him, but we had to turn that set off a third of the way through. It has not aged well
So hereâs the thing. In his prime in the early 2000s there legitimately was a liberal PC orthodoxy in comedy. This meant if you made a joke about a marginalised group it was implicitly understood that the humour was either in the outrageousness of it, or that bigotry itself was the true target of the joke, and that we werenât supposed to take it at face value.
But then actual fascists started gaining power by campaigning against those same marginalised groups, and that type of joke stopped being possible even when played back verbatim. Gervais either hasnât realized that, or is happy to play to the tastes of real bigots.
I haven't seen it, but the reviews I've seen sorta said it was funny because of the underlying premise, not because of Gervais.
My view of the guy is he has a negative amount of humour. Not only is he totally unfunny by himself, but he actively removes the humour from scenes he's in.
Oh, he does not belong in front of a camera. He's not a good actor and he has the comedic timing of a ham sandwich. But he wrote and co-produced it, so I give him credit for it.
Has he changed much? If you didn't like him before you probably won't now. If you did like him before but have already seen a lot of his stuff you will probably still like it but it might feel a little repetitive.
he jumped on the anti-trans wagon real quick. and does a few other pro MAGA jokes. he claims he's being subversive for it's own sake, but I'm not amused by people who are ok with me personally losing my human rights or right to be alive because it's just a sandbox for them to play in when it's actually a gun to my head.
Very hot take, he's often cited as a comedic genius. British office will always be way better than its American shadow. Afterlife showed he has range, extras gave us some of the funniest bits ever, etc
I remember laughing hysterically at his bit about Humpty Dumpty being reassembled by horses, "...if you were to design the perfect egg smashing device..."
I also found his portrayal of the titular Derek to actually be quite touching. I enjoyed the show.
His last Oscars speech had him basically spit facts in a funny way. Guy isn't a comedian, he's a court jester, and I mean that in the most positive way.
He's played to the MAGA crowd plenty in his last few acts. I personally can't stomach this kind of shit because the hate is pointed at me and my loved ones. really makes it impossible to give a pass too. he's just another asshole that would celebrate my death or the removal of my human rights if it means capturing an audience for profit. There's a lot of entertainers that get a pass from white audiences if they're fun enough. but it really spoils the mood when the gun is pointed at you.
Lmao he's obsessed with chem trails and thinks the moon landing was fake. I listen to a podcast called Guys that checks in on him all the time and it's hilarious. He also looks like a Frankenstein.
Carlin is a lot like the book 1984, in that every point of view on the political spectrum thinks it's about/for them.... leftists love him because he hated religion and republicans, right wingers love him because he hated political correctness and hippies, and both sides just ignore all the shit he said they don't agree with....
The problem is that he was never funny. Went to see him in Atlanta one summer when he first started getting big. He informed us that he was filming his Christmas special soon and needed to practice so we got 90 minutes of Christmas jokes while it was 100° and 90% humidity outside and the one time an audience member made a well timed heckle (and it was non-disruptive) he paused the whole show and berated the audience, calling us all rude.
Normand and Morril took blood money to perform in Riyadh. Solid list otherwise. I'd substitute in Gianmarco Soresi and addJosh Johnson, and Benny Feldman.
EDIT: That came out wrong. Let me try again: Dave Chappelle, Adam Sandler and the like, really let the veil slip on their generational sexism and racism, and as their comedy stays the same, they arent aging well with the times.
Gen X here. How would biting my tongue help? You don't change anything by keeping silent, especially since we are sometimes called "the forgotten generation."
Gen-x here. Since we've been referred to as cringe so often we're obviously experts in the field. Annnnd this shit right here ^^^ ? That's some grade-A cringe.
Why make up bullshit and assign it to a group of people who had no choice in which year they were born? What you are describing is not 'gen X comedians' it is 'bad comedians.'
Smarten the fuck up.
Generalizations about people based on facets of themselves they can not control (age, sexuality, race, economic situation, etc...) are ALWAYS FUCKING WRONG.
You are on blahaj, you would think this is engrained in you by now. But nope - for some reason it is ok for you to say "fuck gen X", or "fuck all cis men".
CUT IT OUT - Be better. We are all equals on this fucking rock. ALL .
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crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 110 pts · 140d
Imagine buying tickets to a well-established comedian's show just to hear them read Facebook comments for an hour.
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 140d
Its fine if it is funny but they pick a lot of chud comments
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 79 pts · 140d
RodersTrotters@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 140d
Bill "Petrolium" Burr
edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 140d
I hope that hypocritical sack of shit's career never recovers.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 140d
Which one, I wanna cringe a little
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 84 pts · 140d
He went to Saudi Arabia to make money and lost many fans. Myself included, those fuck faces killed and dismembered a journalist and deserve no international respect.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 37 pts · 140d
I mean it's not even that he went to Saudi Arabia and did this absurd show. It's how he handled the Fallout. If he had just handled it like a comedian by making a joke he probably would have been fine. He said "I'm sorry but you know I needed the money have you see my wife's Instagram page?" Or something like that he probably could have emerge somewhat unscathed. Battered but unbroken. But the way he handle it was just so tone deaf and so patronizing and so God damn absurd that a lot of it just had to tune out.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 139d
What way did he handle it?
guitarfosec@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 139d
That was my gripe, too. Any one of them could have said, âI know itâs an awful regime, but I went to go give a lot of regular Saudis who live in an oppressive state a chance to laugh and have some real fun.â and I would have said, âYou know, thatâs fair.â, but for some reason not a single one of them did.
fourtonetiger@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 139d
I don't know all the details, but I get the feeling the oppressed class weren't in attendance.
guitarfosec@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 136d
Fair point.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 140d
This is interesting because the US government has clearly been very friendly with the Saudi regime for decades, supports monarchy / authoritarianism there militarily and diplomatically, developed the petrodollar system with them which saves the average American household thousands of dollars a year and allows the US government to run a $40 trillion dollar debt with favorable interest rates. Several advantages America has over other Western nations and the rest of the world come from this partnership.
In a sense every American makes money off of Saudi Arabia and doesn't realize it. Perhaps that's something they didn't consent to so they shouldn't be held accountable. But if the petrodollar ended tomorrow, inflation in the US would spike almost immediately through currency devaluation and a bond crisis would likely follow.
The first morally logical step would be to petition one's own government to stop supporting the Saudi monarchy militarily and diplomatically.
Tl;dr: The US is the reason Saudi Arabia has international legitimacy and respect. If anyone wants to change that, start with them.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 24 pts · 140d
Wonât work. Saudi spectacularly demolished some NY real estate and the US bent over backwards to pretend Afghanistan was to blame.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 140d
The 28 pages
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 139d
Well that just makes the US government look worse. I'm all for bringing down theocratic monarchies but if one's democratically elected government is the only thing propping that up, it would make much more sense to direct the rage there, within a system that answers to its people. Either that or it looks like they're enjoying the financial benefits of the partnership quietly while engaging in moral grandstanding outwardly.
If one's morality is on a firm foundation, petition your government to bring an end to the petrodollar. The Saudi monarchy will fall as you wish for it to. Anything less amounts to hipocrisy.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 138d
Might work someday if we ever get out of the oil industry. But this probably wonât be in any of your kidsâ or even grandkidsâ lifetimes.
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 140d
Funny thing is that it wasnt even that much of money.
baines@lemmy.cafe · 14 pts · 140d
you can bribe a senator for less than 60k
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
Plomo E plata
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 140d
Oh, he went with that group. Yeah, fuck that.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 139d
a friend of mine lives there. he works 80 hour weeks. poor fella.
edit: no wait it's UAE actually. i just checked.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 139d
Yeah UAE is where people go to make money laundering profits for billionaires, or to be slaves building stuff for them.
Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 139d
You can do that basically anywhere on that peninsula really
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
glances at Yemen
Not quite anywhere.
Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 139d
Heh that occurred to me later.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 139d
Damn he must be making bank tho!
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 139d
nah he's poor as crap, his mother says he can't go to the doctor because it costs too much money :(
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 139d
imagine if your dad died in 9/11 and you STILL went to perform like a dancing little monkey for the guys that ordered those planes flown into those towers....
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 140d
But they have a cheesecake factory!
popekingjoe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
And a chili's! Don't forget the chili's!
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 139d
I only saw the McDonaldâs on wheels that chased Trump through the desert, but that didnât help Burrâs case either.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 140d
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
I think a lot of people don't realize how much power they have when they become popular. That their shitty ideals will spread like wildfire if not kept under control. Once money gets involved people do wild shit.
Blackout@fedia.io · 59 pts · 140d
I haven't found Dave Chappelle funny since 2005
redsand@infosec.pub · 31 pts · 140d
He peaked with the Chappelle show and can't admit it to himself
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 140d
He should have left at the peak.
Briguy@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 139d
Well he did. But then he came back
KuroiKaze@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 139d
Yeah he's a way better writer than a comedian
deft@lemmy.wtf · 13 pts · 140d
Tbh he had good skits and bits but Chappelle in my opinion wasn't as funny as perceived.
His comedy really is that line "but have you ever seen it on weed?"
Like he's not this philosopher comic person people think he was.
shapis@lemmy.ml · 49 pts · 140d
Young Dave Chappelle was the greatest comedian of all time and Iâll die on this hill.
He still has some sparks of brilliance here and there. But fuck. Yeah. The meme is accurate.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 139d
I don't get how his bit about him supporting trans people turned him into what he is now.
DaleGribble88@programming.dev · 17 pts · 139d
Ooh! I can answer this! He made a joke about someone in his life that was trans. It hit the media that he was doing jokes about trans people. So he tried to explain how he wasn't transphobic by telling a bunch of actual transphobic jokes, which was certainly a choice that was made. That turned a lot of people off, so he followed the laughs.
The first "new" Chappelle special is wonderful! No more offensive to any one group than any other. His follow up was mostly good, but some cringing at some bad takes. Clips thereafter are pretty.... Well, you see what thread we are in. đ
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 139d
Thank you.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 139d
Chappelle saw an underfilled market for a kind-of Chris Rock "what white people think black people sound like" comic material and crammed himself into the role.
Then he saw an underfilled market for a Bill Cosby "what older white people want to hear black people complain about" comic material and crammed himself into that role.
And now he sounds like a cringe mix of Chris Rock meets Bill Cosby, which is exactly what Trad MAGA gooners will pay out the nose to see.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 139d
This bit kills me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzn55RGAvuA
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 140d
While I still think Chappell is talented if he actually put more effort,
Man his comedy has gone downhill. Itâs not a skill thing, itâs a: âI care about money and I know Iâm gonna make enough anywayâ kind of attitude.
IMO this is why artists should never be payed too much. They should make what a good doctor makes, not enough to âbuild a brandâ
paultimate14@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 140d
He was always this way. Born to upper-middle-class parents, growing up in the suburbs, cosplaying aa an urban poor black person to grift white people put of their money. Punching down on Mexicans and Asians, anyone he could to be profitable. Now it's trans people, but the grift has always been the same.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 12 pts · 139d
He has a pretty well known interview where he whines about not being able to make fun of gay people and says something about how Comedy Central didn't mind him making fun of black people and...
Well, Dave, I don't know if anyone mentioned this to you but you're black and not gay.
If he's always at some level just never really identified with other black people, or at least the poor ones, that would make a lot of things about that disconnect make sense.
criticon@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 140d
When they become too rich they start making bits like "isn't going to the Bentley dealership the worst?" or "oh I hate it when I can't book first class and I have to travel on business cramped with all the others"
Furbag@pawb.social · 12 pts · 139d
I've noticed that once comedians "hit it big" and can live off of the royalties that their specials generate, their comedy tends to go way downhill and they start using future performances as almost soapbox-adjacent platforms rather than writing actual jokes that people find funny. They don't need to write funny material to live off of anymore, they can just ride on their fame and sell out venues wherever they go, so it becomes more of a speaking gig rather than an act.
Like, I remember sitting down during the pandemic with a few friends to watch one of Chappell's new specials and it was just him ranting the whole time, there might have been one or two jokes in there, but I think that was just his personality coming forward and not any conscious effort to deliver a setup and a punchline. It was such a letdown, because we were set for a night of comedy and it was just an angry rant with serious undertones.
Maybe just anecdotal, but that's how I see it going for a lot of famous comedians - not all of them, of course, but a lot of the household names from the past two decades have gone this route rather than segueing into showbiz like comics from the 90's era.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 139d
There is a video of Ricky Gervais, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld and Louis CK talking about comedy and their different approaches. This was before we knew about Louis CK but it was enlightening on how different the approaches are and I appreciated the difference between CK and Seinfeld. Seinfeld basically does the same act every year and changes maybe 20% at most. CK does an entirely new act each time. I did respect his decision to rewrite his whole performance each time he changes it.
Unfortunately things are where we are at now but I think someone said prior and Carlin would do the same thing and they are some of the greats in comedy
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 139d
Well, yeah, if I could stop doing real work and just use my soapbox to yell at people I'd do it too.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 139d
Yes, because it only corrupts the artists and not the companies paying them. /s
Also, have you ever met a doctor when they're out and about? What a crazy take you have.
scops@reddthat.com · 32 pts · 140d
I sat my girlfriend down to watch Robin Williams' Live on Broadway set because it was stuck in my mind as the greatest comedy show of all time. I love that man and miss him, but we had to turn that set off a third of the way through. It has not aged well
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 140d
i think he is a great performer but his jokes arent that good.
Soulg@ani.social · 12 pts · 139d
Completely agree. Never been a fan of his stand-up, but incredible comedic actor. And dramatic actor too for that matter
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 140d
His Michael Jackson joke still makes me laugh.
Butterphinger@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 140d
Same for my mom and I's viewing of "Good Morning Vietnam".
Yeah, uhm. Great film, if you can get past the 1980's Shock-Jock Robin Williams yelling to himself, from himself, at himself, back, forth, ad-nauseum.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 139d
Is that the one where he's got an entire table filled with water bottles and he makes it through like half of them by the end of his set?
scops@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 139d
Yes it is. He uses one bottle to make a show of marking his territory like a dog.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 139d
Went to a Jeff dunham show for free
That's all
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 139d
I saw him easily 30 years ago.
His act hasnât changed much at all. Still the same racist, low-hanging fruit as always. Just occasionally different puppets.
deltapi@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 139d
What? He's not racist, that's just the way his people communicate!
LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 139d
You ask for a refund after? I know free is free, but it would send a message.
TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
Did you ask for a refund?
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 121d
Unfortunately time is non refundable, theatre policy.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 140d
When you thought Ricky Gervais was a mild safe bet.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 139d
Has that dude ever been funny?
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 139d
So hereâs the thing. In his prime in the early 2000s there legitimately was a liberal PC orthodoxy in comedy. This meant if you made a joke about a marginalised group it was implicitly understood that the humour was either in the outrageousness of it, or that bigotry itself was the true target of the joke, and that we werenât supposed to take it at face value.
But then actual fascists started gaining power by campaigning against those same marginalised groups, and that type of joke stopped being possible even when played back verbatim. Gervais either hasnât realized that, or is happy to play to the tastes of real bigots.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
Or maybe we shouldn't let bigots and fascists ruin everything.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 135d
He's ok with them thinking he agrees with them. that's enough to move on for me.
Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 139d
The Invention of Lying?
That's all I got.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 139d
I haven't seen it, but the reviews I've seen sorta said it was funny because of the underlying premise, not because of Gervais.
My view of the guy is he has a negative amount of humour. Not only is he totally unfunny by himself, but he actively removes the humour from scenes he's in.
Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 139d
Oh, he does not belong in front of a camera. He's not a good actor and he has the comedic timing of a ham sandwich. But he wrote and co-produced it, so I give him credit for it.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 139d
Has he changed much? If you didn't like him before you probably won't now. If you did like him before but have already seen a lot of his stuff you will probably still like it but it might feel a little repetitive.
adam_y@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 135d
he jumped on the anti-trans wagon real quick. and does a few other pro MAGA jokes. he claims he's being subversive for it's own sake, but I'm not amused by people who are ok with me personally losing my human rights or right to be alive because it's just a sandbox for them to play in when it's actually a gun to my head.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 135d
You can support gay rights and still tell a joke about sucking cock.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 139d
I've never found the guy funny, no. I remember what an obnoxious twat he was in An Idiot Abroad, never intentionally watched something he's in.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 139d
You are free to do that, but has his style really changed much? At this point if you go to see him and you are disappointed its kinda on you as well.
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 139d
Don't worry, I don't plan to.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 139d
How much do you enjoy the joke "God isn't real and everyone who believes in God is stupid" on a loop?
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
Me! Laughing at religious people is funny.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
Well, strap in, because he's got that one joke and another one about how people are mean to him. And his set is 2 hours long.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 139d
I concur, it makes me feel at least a little better I have to share this planet with religious people.
KuroiKaze@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
Very hot take, he's often cited as a comedic genius. British office will always be way better than its American shadow. Afterlife showed he has range, extras gave us some of the funniest bits ever, etc
m0darn@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 139d
I remember laughing hysterically at his bit about Humpty Dumpty being reassembled by horses, "...if you were to design the perfect egg smashing device..."
I also found his portrayal of the titular Derek to actually be quite touching. I enjoyed the show.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 139d
His last Oscars speech had him basically spit facts in a funny way. Guy isn't a comedian, he's a court jester, and I mean that in the most positive way.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 135d
He's played to the MAGA crowd plenty in his last few acts. I personally can't stomach this kind of shit because the hate is pointed at me and my loved ones. really makes it impossible to give a pass too. he's just another asshole that would celebrate my death or the removal of my human rights if it means capturing an audience for profit. There's a lot of entertainers that get a pass from white audiences if they're fun enough. but it really spoils the mood when the gun is pointed at you.
RodersTrotters@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
He is the greatest philosopher among comedians, a massive Kant.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 139d
Gervais came onto the scene as a Christopher Hitchens millennial knock-off and has aged about as well.
Derpenheim@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 140d
Jim Breuer
foxwolf@pawb.social · 11 pts · 140d
Lmao he's obsessed with chem trails and thinks the moon landing was fake. I listen to a podcast called Guys that checks in on him all the time and it's hilarious. He also looks like a Frankenstein.
dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 140d
Amazing impressions, but lunatic conservative loser
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 140d
Sam Seder can out comedian him by literally just describing a thing Breuer decided to do.
FinalRemix@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 139d
Randy Feltface will never age poorly.
deltapi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 139d
Morgie morgie morgaaaaaan
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 139d
Itâs quite possible he could scuttle the whole show to try to win back his ex-wife Victoria Vincent.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 139d
Kyle Kinane has never let me down.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 139d
Dirt Nap had me laughing so hard I cried
TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 139d
He's also a really stand up guy. Super friendly.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 140d
I hear Russell Brand has a new book out...
Lydon_Feen@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 140d
Is it the bible?
Agent641@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
SwampYankee@feddit.online · 3 pts · 139d
Not that far off... It's literally called "How to become a Christian in 7 days".
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 139d
Not my boy Emo Phillips
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
Like a fine whine
derry@midwest.social · 12 pts · 140d
What about Carlin? Haven't heard cringe about him but .... Wondering
Absolute_Axoltl@feddit.uk · 72 pts · 140d
He's unlikely to make a new special
derry@midwest.social · 11 pts · 140d
Fair.
redsand@infosec.pub · 19 pts · 140d
And his stuff aged like a fine wine
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 140d
Still holds up
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 140d
Got a little dark towards the end. Not wrong per se, just. Not lighthearted.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 5 pts · 140d
He was lighthearted?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 140d
Early on. Even in the 80s.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 140d
I mean, who doesn't remember he was Mr. Conductor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPKAG3VUfOE
deft@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 139d
Oh shit he was. Sorry I never watched thomas the tank engine. My first carlin experience was him jerking off on the phone with his mom or something?
FinalRemix@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
Yeah, You Are All Diseased wasn't exactly a fun comedy show.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 139d
Carlin is a lot like the book 1984, in that every point of view on the political spectrum thinks it's about/for them.... leftists love him because he hated religion and republicans, right wingers love him because he hated political correctness and hippies, and both sides just ignore all the shit he said they don't agree with....
.....he that sounds just like the bible too!
edit: Jacob Geller just did a video on this actually.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cdowB9udPc
PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 140d
Usually the old material wasn't any different.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 9 pts · 140d
Jeff Dunham
lps2@lemmy.ml · 48 pts · 140d
The problem is that he was never funny. Went to see him in Atlanta one summer when he first started getting big. He informed us that he was filming his Christmas special soon and needed to practice so we got 90 minutes of Christmas jokes while it was 100° and 90% humidity outside and the one time an audience member made a well timed heckle (and it was non-disruptive) he paused the whole show and berated the audience, calling us all rude.
HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 140d
The way he would constantly advertise his website during his act still haunts me to this day... it randomly just creeps up on me.
weariedfae@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 139d
DOT coooom
SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social · 11 pts · 140d
He was always painful to sit through.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 140d
They gotta decide if they want to be the jester, or the stooges.
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 140d
Or a chud.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 140d
Nikki Glaser
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 140d
Yeah, I made it a couple minutes into the new special and had to turn it off.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 140d
I mean I've felt this way for the last 10 or 15 years.
Dippy@beehaw.org · 5 pts · 139d
Remember when we thought Dane Cook was funny? In my defense I was 13, but wow
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle, Jim Jeffries, the great George Carlin
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 139d
Carlin never lost his touch, even when he was just doing it out of financial necessity.
Leg@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 139d
I saw an AI George Carlin special.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 139d
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 139d
Eww thatâs not George Carlin hahaha
87Six@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 139d
Jeff Arcuri, the golden retriever of comedians :-D
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 139d
Hell yeah! Jeff is awesome.
zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 139d
Doug Stanhope...
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · -11 pts · 139d
Joe list, sam morrill, Ryan long, raanan hershberg, Mark normand all hilarious w multiple free stand up specials on YouTube right now.
Ive seen clowns wear less makeup than carpenter.
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 139d
Normand and Morril took blood money to perform in Riyadh. Solid list otherwise. I'd substitute in Gianmarco Soresi and addJosh Johnson, and Benny Feldman.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 139d
Ever hold a usa $2 bill in your hand?
blazeknave@lemmy.world · -32 pts · 140d
Gen X forgot how to bite their tongue
EDIT: That came out wrong. Let me try again: Dave Chappelle, Adam Sandler and the like, really let the veil slip on their generational sexism and racism, and as their comedy stays the same, they arent aging well with the times.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 33 pts · 140d
Gen X here. How would biting my tongue help? You don't change anything by keeping silent, especially since we are sometimes called "the forgotten generation."
blazeknave@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 137d
Replying in edit above
scoobford@piefed.blahaj.zone · -26 pts · 140d
Because sometimes you tell a bad joke and you need to apologize or shut the fuck up.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 31 pts · 140d
And you believe that to be generation-specific? Yeah, I think maybe you need to take your own advice.
jaemo@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 140d
Gen-x here. Since we've been referred to as cringe so often we're obviously experts in the field. Annnnd this shit right here ^^^ ? That's some grade-A cringe.
Bravo.
Who did you study with?
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 139d
If the jokes of the mostly gen x comedians almost purely consist of "trans bad" and "I hate my bitch wife" they really should shut the fuck up.
Bo7a@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 139d
Why make up bullshit and assign it to a group of people who had no choice in which year they were born? What you are describing is not 'gen X comedians' it is 'bad comedians.'
Smarten the fuck up.
Generalizations about people based on facets of themselves they can not control (age, sexuality, race, economic situation, etc...) are ALWAYS FUCKING WRONG.
You are on blahaj, you would think this is engrained in you by now. But nope - for some reason it is ok for you to say "fuck gen X", or "fuck all cis men".
CUT IT OUT - Be better. We are all equals on this fucking rock. ALL .
figjam@midwest.social · 9 pts · 140d
The only joke in this thread is your mom never closing her legs.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 140d
Boom