Two character immediately infordumping to each other as if that’s how humans normally communicate.
“Are you ready? This is going to be a hard job. As you know, they’ve tightened security but we got a man on the inside. As long as does his job then it’s smooth sailing.”
“I was born ready. Eveeything will be fine as long as the shipment is on time. As you know, we put a tracker on the lead car and I can watch exactly where it is from this device in real-time.”
I hope they use younger actors. 'Space Cowboys' had younger actors lip synching Eastwood and Jones for the early scenes. Either that or do it an an animation, the way they brought back Adam West to do a final Batman movie.
Oversaturated marketing campaign and overly bloated cast are the two big red flags for me.
Both are indicative that the budget for the movie was not put towards the actual content of the film but about trying to pull in the largest demographics of people.
But there's always exceptions to any rule. I recently watched Spaceballs (yes, first time) and it would normally fall under "suck", but it got increasingly better as it went along.
Definitely the latter, but also MAGA, the whole shebang. They recently made full proper movie versions of Q-Anon "documentaries". One of my favorite podcasters grudgingly had to admit that the production is more than just OK.
They popped up on fascist grifters podcasts, but are going more mainstream now.
They are clearly benefiting from the current political currents in the USA.
I think they are kind of like a production house with an additional kickstarter backing thing, or small individual investors of some other kind, i'm not sure.
This is a very lazy observation, but for a US production, if it’s released in the US first it’s often a sign they’re trying to get the opening weekend without many reviews available to dissuade attendance.
If it’s actually a good film, it’ll open in a foreign region a week or two before the US so they can use those reviews in promotion.
A lot of directors and actors/actresses are massive red flags based on the projects that they take on. If they are also working with a star studded cast then it is going to suck so much. The Rock and Chris Pratt have earned their current association with bland movies that suck for example. I still like some older Rock movies from before he became bland action hero who can't show weakness for any reason. Pratt is fun as Starlord, but his other roles are mediocre.
Bland marketing is often a bad sign, where it is hard to tell the thing is different than a bunch of other similar movies. Bland action movies are a great example of this, if they can't pull of a unique impression from the trailers it is most likely going to suck.
I'd say any bad exposition, no matter how short. I was marginally interested in watching Shang-Chi after watching Wonder Man since I heard Trevor was in it too.
Right after the intro sequence, they jump to the present to introduce him and his friend and she immediately says something like "we've been friends for 10 years" and it was just so forced that I turned it off.
It's always the same type of movie. Either we get some boomer vs. youth plot, a family (+child) with relationship problems or something about the second world war. It's the most boring slop for our aging population you can imagine.
Anything where the poster/promo has a man and woman apart but kinda the same each other (grumpy or lustfully). Relationship waffle made into movies is the most boring looking crap. It usually has a 3-5 word little like ‘you said forever’ or ‘beneath the elderflower moon’
Fucking news reports playing straight to screen without any characters reacting to them are a pox on storytelling. You can spot the exact moment where Sam Raimi mentally checks out of Spider-man 3 when this happens - the bit the studio made him do because they wanted Venom in the movie (not the Emo Parker bits, which are intentionally cringe and awesome).
I watched Lord of the Rings, which seems to be one long movie broken into pieces, and I don't think it sucks as much as the formula suggests for a 720-min runtime.
If the only thing promoting the movie is it's politics, or controversy over its politics, that means the rest of the movie isn't very interesting, otherwise that's what people would be talking about.
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IWW4@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 100d
Unfortunately for too long now: “A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away”
Directed by:
If you see this logo:
The company is the king of what used to be called Direct To Video. Now it is all Direct to Streaming.
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 100d
Don't forget Adam Sandler
statler_waldorf@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 100d
Only if it's a Happy Gilmore production. If he's acting in someone else's movie, he can be a great actor.
Maestro@fedia.io · 2 pts · 100d
Ehhh..... "Spaceman" was pretty good actually
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 100d
Two character immediately infordumping to each other as if that’s how humans normally communicate.
“Are you ready? This is going to be a hard job. As you know, they’ve tightened security but we got a man on the inside. As long as does his job then it’s smooth sailing.”
“I was born ready. Eveeything will be fine as long as the shipment is on time. As you know, we put a tracker on the lead car and I can watch exactly where it is from this device in real-time.”
mlg@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 100d
Compare this to the bank robbery opening in Dark Knight haha.
I've never seen Heat, but I've also never seen any newer movies top that scene since.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 9 pts · 100d
Heat is as good as people have been telling you.
There's also a novel, Heat 2, written by the movie's director that serves as a prequel and sequel.
passenger@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 100d
And I hear soon there is Heat 2 the movie
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 2 pts · 99d
I hope they use younger actors. 'Space Cowboys' had younger actors lip synching Eastwood and Jones for the early scenes. Either that or do it an an animation, the way they brought back Adam West to do a final Batman movie.
I hate deaging.
passenger@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 99d
Leo and Bale it seems along with other well known faces
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 100d
harmbugler@piefed.social · 5 pts · 100d
The cat & mouse between the protagonists and the unfolding similarity of their drives and subsequent impact on their personal lives.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 100d
HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 99d
Oh, please watch Heat if for no other reason than the sound work. Nobody tell him what I mean by that.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 100d
How dare you besmirch The Princess Bride!
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 100d
Classic film made for people doomscrolling their phones
voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 99d
Agreed, this reads to me like the whole introduction hit the cutting room floor
voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 100d
Oversaturated marketing campaign and overly bloated cast are the two big red flags for me.
Both are indicative that the budget for the movie was not put towards the actual content of the film but about trying to pull in the largest demographics of people.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 9 pts · 100d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RWsI8BUkWc
Notyou@sopuli.xyz · 21 pts · 100d
Directed by JJ Abrams
gasgiant@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 100d
Wow first one to say Jared Leto.
Unless I've missed morbin time suddenly becoming popular?
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 100d
If it's a comedy: the first joke.
But there's always exceptions to any rule. I recently watched Spaceballs (yes, first time) and it would normally fall under "suck", but it got increasingly better as it went along.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 100d
Jared Leto
LadyButterfly@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 99d
This is a 100% accurate statement
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 99d
I see your Jared Leto, and raise you an Adam Driver.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 99d
You see my FIFA and raise an orange slice? 😅
B0NK3RS@lazysoci.al · 11 pts · 100d
It sucks for me because once they start with the unnecessary cuts it pulls me right out and I'll probably stop watching.
Senal@programming.dev · 10 pts · 100d
these logo's:
Though i will say the production value on the latest daily wire show was really high, probably the absolute fuck-tonne of money they spent on it.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 100d
What the hell is Angel. I am seeing that company logo all over. Are they a distribution house or are they some sort of religious shit?
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 100d
Definitely the latter, but also MAGA, the whole shebang. They recently made full proper movie versions of Q-Anon "documentaries". One of my favorite podcasters grudgingly had to admit that the production is more than just OK.
They popped up on fascist grifters podcasts, but are going more mainstream now.
They are clearly benefiting from the current political currents in the USA.
Also, Jim Caviezel 🤮
Senal@programming.dev · 4 pts · 100d
I think they are kind of like a production house with an additional kickstarter backing thing, or small individual investors of some other kind, i'm not sure.
Here is the wiki
Their programming is pretty faithy, have a look at the lineup and you'll see from the titles.
I don't care much for that genre, but i don't see it as that much different than any other genre, it's just not for me.
What i will say is that their productions are the faith based equivalent of straight to vhs action movies.
It's generic dross with meh writing and some reasonable production values.
but that's just my opinion, perhaps it's worth a shot if you're into that kind of genre.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 99d
logos? Like regular pluralization?
iagomago@feddit.it · 9 pts · 100d
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 99d
What the heck is that? I liked buffy and firefly, so use those as an example if you could.
sibannac@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
Yeah, do they mean pre- or post- marvel?
iagomago@feddit.it · 2 pts · 99d
Never watched Buffy but anything that's been flogged to death by Marvel movies, yes.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 100d
Starring Mark Wahlberg.
The only exception is The Other Guys.
mech@feddit.org · 9 pts · 100d
Pain & Gain is a goddamn masterpiece, and I'm willing to die on this hill.
PeculiarGoat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 100d
When the trailer is just a highlights reel of the entire plot. If the movie was worth watching they would let it speak for itself.
bigbangdangler@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 100d
Pacing that feels more like an Instagram reel than a feature film.
Excessive use of poor effects or artificial camera shake.
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 100d
This is a very lazy observation, but for a US production, if it’s released in the US first it’s often a sign they’re trying to get the opening weekend without many reviews available to dissuade attendance.
If it’s actually a good film, it’ll open in a foreign region a week or two before the US so they can use those reviews in promotion.
snooggums@piefed.world · 6 pts · 100d
A lot of directors and actors/actresses are massive red flags based on the projects that they take on. If they are also working with a star studded cast then it is going to suck so much. The Rock and Chris Pratt have earned their current association with bland movies that suck for example. I still like some older Rock movies from before he became bland action hero who can't show weakness for any reason. Pratt is fun as Starlord, but his other roles are mediocre.
Bland marketing is often a bad sign, where it is hard to tell the thing is different than a bunch of other similar movies. Bland action movies are a great example of this, if they can't pull of a unique impression from the trailers it is most likely going to suck.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 6 pts · 100d
More than five 'executive producers.'
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 100d
Typically things I look for are a movie that's pushed like its a big budget film but doesn't have any actors I've ever heard of.
Too much expositional dialogue at the beginning of the movie especially when its so foreign to the way people talk in real life.
In the new Star Wars movie, the "can you hear me now?" "joke" in the first 5 minutes.
Unnecessary sequels to a completed story.
I'm sure there are others but my break is over and this is all I could think of.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 100d
Voiceover
mlg@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
Detailed CGI in sci fi that's been lense or motioned blurred into oblivion.
Doesn't even matter if the CGI was subpar because now the whole thing looks like RGB vommit.
It's especially painful coming from gaming where you get to see crisp visual quality at every angle even on games as old as Halo CE.
buliarous@piefed.social · 5 pts · 100d
exposition in the form of character monologue at a length longer than 30 seconds that is required for the rest of the movie to make sense.
statler_waldorf@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 100d
I'd say any bad exposition, no matter how short. I was marginally interested in watching Shang-Chi after watching Wonder Man since I heard Trevor was in it too.
Right after the intro sequence, they jump to the present to introduce him and his friend and she immediately says something like "we've been friends for 10 years" and it was just so forced that I turned it off.
Focal@pawb.social · 3 pts · 100d
Two come to mind here, neither are bad.
Dune and The Lord of the Rings.
I suspect these two to be exceptions to the rule of thumb you're proposing though, but I can't actually think of any that does this poorly.
Got any examples?
Janx@piefed.social · 5 pts · 100d
For comedies, none of the jokes in the trailer are that funny or make you laugh.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 99d
When you can't escape the ads for it.
lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 99d
Movies funded by Germany.
It's always the same type of movie. Either we get some boomer vs. youth plot, a family (+child) with relationship problems or something about the second world war. It's the most boring slop for our aging population you can imagine.
Krudler@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
Promoted in media, then suddenly disappears and not heard of again for 4-8 months.
It went horribly with test audiences, then got sent for a focus-group-based reworking. Always trash.
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 100d
schroedingersKoala@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 100d
Directed by: Uwe Boll
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 100d
Typically the impression I get from the trailer. I have seen so many trailers and so many movies I usually can't even tell you why anymore.
Cherry@piefed.social · 3 pts · 100d
Anything where the poster/promo has a man and woman apart but kinda the same each other (grumpy or lustfully). Relationship waffle made into movies is the most boring looking crap. It usually has a 3-5 word little like ‘you said forever’ or ‘beneath the elderflower moon’
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 99d
"you've got mail"?
"When Harry met Sally"?
Cherry@piefed.social · 1 pts · 99d
It’s more the newer stuff. Netflix style stuff.
MrNesser@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
budget blown in the first 5 minutes followed by 85 minutes of people in random uniforms in blank rooms with crappy laptops
yessikg@fedia.io · 3 pts · 100d
If it's a movie about a woman and it's written and directed by a man
statler_waldorf@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 100d
Aliens
yessikg@fedia.io · 4 pts · 100d
There are always exceptions but 99% of the time the movie ends up being misogynistic garbage
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
The first three minutes is a mish-mash string of production company logos, and half of them you've never heard of before.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
In a world...
Mr_Wobble@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 99d
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 100d
It opens with a talking head news reporter monologuing a voiceover of some bullshit
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 100d
Fucking news reports playing straight to screen without any characters reacting to them are a pox on storytelling. You can spot the exact moment where Sam Raimi mentally checks out of Spider-man 3 when this happens - the bit the studio made him do because they wanted Venom in the movie (not the Emo Parker bits, which are intentionally cringe and awesome).
jimmy90@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d
the cast are doing an awful lot of press
PillBugTheGreat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d
Trailer blitzes
Inucune@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 99d
If you have a character singing and dancing in the first 5 minutes and it is not produced by Disney, or a musical.
Notamoosen@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 98d
There's a mysterious person/killer, that only the protagonist can see.
pumpupthejam@piefed.social · 1 pts · 99d
Every minute over 90 minutes adds to how much a movie sucks exponentially.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 99d
I watched Lord of the Rings, which seems to be one long movie broken into pieces, and I don't think it sucks as much as the formula suggests for a 720-min runtime.
jet@hackertalks.com · 1 pts · 100d
If the only thing promoting the movie is it's politics, or controversy over its politics, that means the rest of the movie isn't very interesting, otherwise that's what people would be talking about.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 99d
Adam Driver.