It's wild that, among other things, the sitting president of the United States fucked children.
This is conservative reality. If that isn't enough to get you to the polls to vote in whatever manner is most likely to end that reality, then you don't deserve to live in a democracy.
What if the voters are child molesters too. Maybe they all just like to fuck children. Then they obviously wouldn't vote against that.
When you stop excluding a set of possibilities just because they would be horrible, US politics start making sense.
I don't think that's what they mean by "conservative reality". I don't know of any liberal overlooking, making excuses, or actively voting for a child abuser.
There are plenty of both. Thiel, Moot, Gates, Clinton, Trump, Bannon. When will you people stop pushing the 2 party narrative? We are all owned by the rich.
Well actually if you look at the "evidence" it's actually a bunch of sheep getting fucked, not goats. Goat fucking is fucked up, but sheep fucking I can maybe look past. I'm actually way way more angry that you would confuse the two than I am angry at the sheep fucking itself.
I was thinking yesterday how I'm just so ashamed that the public at large has largely said, "Oh well!" and moved on to the next thing as they usually do. I guess I was stupid to think my fellow Americans would start a movement to get rid of all these fuckers.
The current Congress has been one of the least productive in terms of passing laws.... But one they did pass was the Epstein Files Transparency Act. It was the best chance to hold perpetrators to account, and had bipartisan support (which is hard to come by these days).
What I'm getting at is nobody has said "oh well", but a handful of people appointed to the right positions have blocked anything from moving forward with it. And that's frustrating as hell. There are also tons of distractions, such as the war in Iran or anything about the ballroom, which can make it feel like The Trump-Epstein Files™ are behind us. But they're not.
Well, I'm happy they are at least performing like the clowns they are, but I am more of talking about my fellow Americans. The normal citizens who don't hold any power like myself. Those are the ones (including mine) whose hands it has fallen upon to stand firm and demand the administration face any consequences for all the fuckery they have done and continue to do every single day.
Ah, yes. Let me go out by myself and start demanding the current administration be held accountable.. I'm sure that will go as smoothly as I imagine...
Besides giving that answer, why don't you talk to me about what you and I can do together to get more people involved?
This is the mindset that defeats the possibility: 'I must do this myself' Most people stop there.
You have it exactly right with the second part of course, you have to organize so that isn't the case. Anyone who wants this to stop, their job is to meet 10 real people who agree that enough is enough.
Imagine what you can do with 10 focused and organized people in coordination. Imagine if it was their job to find 10 more people who are focused and organized. How big of a punch might you throw with 100 good people, assuming you don't want to waste your effort marching around the street waving signs and shouting slogans?
Here's a slogan for you: Organize, OPSEC, Overthrow
... it's also horrible how all the horrible kid raping itself overshadows all the horrible (individual & mass) murdering & global ecosystem destruction that threatens/kills millions further propagating the seemingly inevitable cycle of escalating violence & death.
My opinion is that social media algorithm polarised and poisoned everyone's minds. We have become corralled into our own different sets of reality. So, we only see what we want to see and not see what others see.
Don't forget that "alleged" goat fucker also managed to convince other people that drag queens were the REAL goat fuckers so they would harass and terrorise said drag queens based solely on his word.
Did he get the DOW to top 50000? Does he stop Iran from getting the bomb? Did he support Israel and harken the Second Coming? If so; 0%. But even if 100%, idk.
I know this is a shitpost, but honestly I think AOTUS was a trafficker who even out did Epstein. This is why Epstein and Trumplethinskin had a falling out. Epstein came sniffing around Maralago and saw that Trump was doing the same thing. They were competing child pimps.
Nah, Trump is a malignant narcissist, never in a million years would he do something with other people in mind. Everything he does is for his own benefit and no one else, because hes a selfish fuck.
My theory is that Trump stopped using Epstein and started trafficking his own young girls, which is what caused the falling out. They're both sick fucks.
I think you have it backwards. Trump used beauty pageants to recruit girls for his businesses: 100% known. Epstein later poached those girls, likely after a "massage" at mar a lago. Epstein notably said something about wanting to make his own beauty pageants similar to trump's and saw trump as more amoral than himself.
There was rumor going around that the falling out was purely over a piece of real estate the orange kid fucker wanted that the other kid fucker bought.
We must realize that nowadays the US is not a democracy anymore but a corporate plutocracy. The president is just another pawn of the elites, so its morals doesn't mean shit at the end of the day.
He's the best goat fucker! It's bigly bestiality! No one fucks goats like The Donald, believe me. He raw dogs those ruminants like no man has ever seen! In fact, many men, many big tough men, Marines and SWAT cops, have said to him "Sir, Sir! And no one calls you Sir more than we do, Sir! Please drop your drawers and bang this goat, so we can all see how to be a heroic goat fucker like you, Sir!" They say it while literally crying.
What did he do? All I could find is articles about his old edgy jokes that the alt-right dug up to get him cancelled. Which waa retaliation for him criticizing the goatfucker in Chief.
I mean they were nasty jokes, sure. But I don’t think he’s been accused of rape, much less goatrape?
Multiple "edgy jokes" about being a pedophile and raping kids, posted back and forth with a guy who was later found to own large amounts of CSAM.
That same guy also hosted multiple pedophilia themed house parties that James Gunn attended dressed as a catholic priest, and the women were dressed as little girls.....
This is actually all pretty unclear and anything's possible.
asked why he was taking part in a reading with a convicted pedophile, he answered: “Yeah, that was the point of the tweets, dummy. I left. I showed up to the reading and there was a convicted pedophile there – Victor Salva, the director of Jeepers Creepers, and I was fucking horrified.” Salva had served time for molesting a cast member on an early film of his.
According to him, that was his reaction when he interacted with someone he actually knew was a pedophile.
Said friend of his WAS sued for grooming a 15 year old and it supposedly lasted 2 years (the sexual relationship that is), but that was a civil case and they settled out of court. There's no criminal case and nothing about CSAM I could find. No idea if they're still friends either.
I can't find a single rape accusation against Gunn either, let alone a CSA accusation. No lawsuits, no criminal proceedings.
What we DO know is that he told Ben Shapiro off for his old jokes and then someone (with a history of rape jokes of his own, ironically) went through his tweets from 10 years prior to find his horrible jokes. So he's a hypocrite for sure. He also criticized Trump and this was the era of "everyone on the left is a pedophile or groomer" from Trump supporters. People were claiming he posted actual links to CSAM. He did not. Then some claimed he deleted 10k pedo joke tweets. He did not, he mass deleted 10k tweets at once, but only about ~20 pedo jokes were found, of which most were not actually pedo jokes but taken out of context. At the end what was left as actually unquestionably jokes about pedophilia were like 5 or 6 jokes.
Unhealthy obsession? Sure. I wouldn't let him near my kid, I can tell you that. Can we be sure he's at any point in his life consumed CSAM or abused a minor? Not really, because there's no evidence of either and even IF he's attracted to minors, that in of itself is not a crime, but a psychiatric disorder.
The other things that got glossed over were his jokes about Jews, AIDS, LGBT people, etc. As he said himself, in that era he was just trying to entertain or grab attention through shock value. And tbf, way too many people were in the 00s on the internet. Only morons did it on social media under their own names though, most people stuck to pseudonymous forums.
Like I said, nothing strong enough that he could be convicted, but when a guy who goes to pedophilia themed parties says "I'm a pedophile", even as a "joke" I'm going to just assume they're a pedo, even if he calls out other pedos.
And it's not like he's such a genius and vital part of our culture that we need to find justification for him.
On January 26, 2024, the jury deliberated for three hours and awarded Carroll $7.3 million in emotional damages, $11 million in reputation-related damages, and $65 million in punitive damages, totaling $83.3 million.[246] The jury found Trump had committed sexual abuse and forcible touching, two of the three elements of Carroll's battery claim.[248] Trump said he would appeal.[249]
You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything ... grab them by the pussy.
It's more like: If a guy is known for shitting his pants and it smells like shit when he's around, are you going to require proof of shit in his pants before you deny him sitting in your brand new couch?
In the eye of the law, yes. Public opinion is allowed to be different. But you have one good point. The text does not mention how they are stalling and hindering the investigations despite their promise to open the files.
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Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 137 pts · 91d
Well, he was also accused by the goats.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 29 pts · 91d
Thankfully we never really cared what goats have to say
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 91d
Oh you mean these goats that only try to get famous and are probably getting paid in fresh grass by the radical farmers? Let me laugh.
EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world · 89 pts · 91d
Not 5000. Over a million.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 68 pts · 91d
He's mentioned in the files more times than God is mentioned in the Bible.
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 91d
He would take that as a compliment somehow and brag about it if you told him a statistic like that.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 70 pts · 91d
Being in the classified goatfucker chronnicles is baaaaaahd.
(I’ll walk myself out)
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 91d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 60 pts · 91d
Well it's not 0%.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 91d
It's wild that, among other things, the sitting president of the United States fucked children.
This is conservative reality. If that isn't enough to get you to the polls to vote in whatever manner is most likely to end that reality, then you don't deserve to live in a democracy.
Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 91d
What if the voters are child molesters too. Maybe they all just like to fuck children. Then they obviously wouldn't vote against that.
When you stop excluding a set of possibilities just because they would be horrible, US politics start making sense.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 91d
Well there ARE a large number of conservative men that have been convicted of such crimes
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -3 pts · 91d
Projection all the way.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 91d
It's also liberal reality.
See Epstein and his friends, liberals abound, it's not a conservative circle.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 91d
I don't think that's what they mean by "conservative reality". I don't know of any liberal overlooking, making excuses, or actively voting for a child abuser.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 91d
Maybe cause the liberals are real quiet about it
This is a joke
nulltape@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 91d
There are plenty of both. Thiel, Moot, Gates, Clinton, Trump, Bannon. When will you people stop pushing the 2 party narrative? We are all owned by the rich.
ClownStatue@piefed.social · 37 pts · 91d
Let’s also not forget that the alleged 🐐 fucker’s 🐐 fucking best friend wrote to someone else:
NPR
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 91d
Not sure he's qualified to talk about decency. But it goes to show - even the evil fuckers liked this evil fucker even less.
DrMartinu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 91d
Well actually if you look at the "evidence" it's actually a bunch of sheep getting fucked, not goats. Goat fucking is fucked up, but sheep fucking I can maybe look past. I'm actually way way more angry that you would confuse the two than I am angry at the sheep fucking itself.
YeahToast@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 91d
When you say sheep, do you mean lamb or mutton?
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 91d
... god dammit I know there's a "wake up sheeple" joke in here...
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 91d
Thank you! Sheepophiles are NOT NECESSARILY also goat-fuckers.
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus · 31 pts · 91d
I was thinking yesterday how I'm just so ashamed that the public at large has largely said, "Oh well!" and moved on to the next thing as they usually do. I guess I was stupid to think my fellow Americans would start a movement to get rid of all these fuckers.
paranoid@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 91d
The current Congress has been one of the least productive in terms of passing laws.... But one they did pass was the Epstein Files Transparency Act. It was the best chance to hold perpetrators to account, and had bipartisan support (which is hard to come by these days).
What I'm getting at is nobody has said "oh well", but a handful of people appointed to the right positions have blocked anything from moving forward with it. And that's frustrating as hell. There are also tons of distractions, such as the war in Iran or anything about the ballroom, which can make it feel like The Trump-Epstein Files™ are behind us. But they're not.
(Though they should be)
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 91d
Well, I'm happy they are at least performing like the clowns they are, but I am more of talking about my fellow Americans. The normal citizens who don't hold any power like myself. Those are the ones (including mine) whose hands it has fallen upon to stand firm and demand the administration face any consequences for all the fuckery they have done and continue to do every single day.
opus86@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 90d
You have to assume that they also have been involved with what they cover up with such urgency and distraction.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 91d
We are feeling quiet hatred, don't you worry. We would get him if we could.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 91d
Why don't you start the movement?
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus · 4 pts · 91d
Ah, yes. Let me go out by myself and start demanding the current administration be held accountable.. I'm sure that will go as smoothly as I imagine...
Besides giving that answer, why don't you talk to me about what you and I can do together to get more people involved?
TerdFerguson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 90d
This is the mindset that defeats the possibility: 'I must do this myself' Most people stop there.
You have it exactly right with the second part of course, you have to organize so that isn't the case. Anyone who wants this to stop, their job is to meet 10 real people who agree that enough is enough.
Imagine what you can do with 10 focused and organized people in coordination. Imagine if it was their job to find 10 more people who are focused and organized. How big of a punch might you throw with 100 good people, assuming you don't want to waste your effort marching around the street waving signs and shouting slogans?
Here's a slogan for you: Organize, OPSEC, Overthrow
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 91d
Why don't you?
You're one plane ticket away from Washington D.C., just like most of the USA.
I'm sure your country supports and enables the USA in many ways, why don't you start a movement to end that support, at least?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 91d
the loaf pinchers?
plutopos@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 91d
the movement already exists
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 30 pts · 91d
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 18 pts · 91d
... it's also horrible how all the horrible kid raping itself overshadows all the horrible (individual & mass) murdering & global ecosystem destruction that threatens/kills millions further propagating the seemingly inevitable cycle of escalating violence & death.
village604@adultswim.fan · 5 pts · 91d
It's almost like the files are the distraction
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 91d
And pardoned convicted and accused goat fuckers.
canyoubringmesunrise@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 91d
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 91d
My opinion is that social media algorithm polarised and poisoned everyone's minds. We have become corralled into our own different sets of reality. So, we only see what we want to see and not see what others see.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 91d
Don't forget that "alleged" goat fucker also managed to convince other people that drag queens were the REAL goat fuckers so they would harass and terrorise said drag queens based solely on his word.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 91d
Did he get the DOW to top 50000? Does he stop Iran from getting the bomb? Did he support Israel and harken the Second Coming? If so; 0%. But even if 100%, idk.
-average evangelical
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 91d
I know this is a shitpost, but honestly I think AOTUS was a trafficker who even out did Epstein. This is why Epstein and Trumplethinskin had a falling out. Epstein came sniffing around Maralago and saw that Trump was doing the same thing. They were competing child pimps.
DragonAce@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 91d
Nah, Trump is a malignant narcissist, never in a million years would he do something with other people in mind. Everything he does is for his own benefit and no one else, because hes a selfish fuck.
My theory is that Trump stopped using Epstein and started trafficking his own young girls, which is what caused the falling out. They're both sick fucks.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 91d
I think you have it backwards. Trump used beauty pageants to recruit girls for his businesses: 100% known. Epstein later poached those girls, likely after a "massage" at mar a lago. Epstein notably said something about wanting to make his own beauty pageants similar to trump's and saw trump as more amoral than himself.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 91d
There was rumor going around that the falling out was purely over a piece of real estate the orange kid fucker wanted that the other kid fucker bought.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 91d
Their falling out was literally about Epstein recruiting one of Trump's underage "locker room attendants."
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 91d
Funny how fighting over an underage girl to molest will do that to guys.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 91d
Hmm. A and P are at opposite ends of most keyboards. Not a typo then?
Ass of the United States?
I think I love your writing.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 91d
Yes, Asshole of the United States.
Thanks.
axh@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 91d
Next US president candidate confirmed
oyzmo@piefed.social · 7 pts · 91d
😂👌🏻
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 91d
My takeaway is that the once removed immigrant, fred trump's son, has sex with children and goats.
FishFace@piefed.social · 6 pts · 91d
Not a shitpost
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 91d
Yeah, and there's a political shitpost community too.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 91d
... but you fuck one goat!
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 91d
In this case however, they were accused by 30 different goats, not people
lietuva@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 91d
As an old proverb says. You can build a thousand bridges, but fuck one goat and yiu will be known as goat-fucker for the rest of the life
aamram@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 91d
We must realize that nowadays the US is not a democracy anymore but a corporate plutocracy. The president is just another pawn of the elites, so its morals doesn't mean shit at the end of the day.
Klear@piefed.world · 3 pts · 91d
The guy is the WOAT.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 91d
Agreed, I don't depend on "convictions" for judgment.
Where I'm from, if a dozen women say you're a rapist... you're a rapist.
So... Trump is a rapist. Clinton is a rapist, too. They were golfing buddies, and both enjoyed Epstein's company. Birds of a feather flock together.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 2 pts · 91d
Ah yes, Tonald Drump, of the Drump Jepstein files.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 89d
He's almost certainly a goat fucker. On the off chance he isn't, he's certainly a goat-fucker sympathizer
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 91d
He's actually talking about himself. Nothing else needs to be read into it.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 91d
99%
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 91d
He's the best goat fucker! It's bigly bestiality! No one fucks goats like The Donald, believe me. He raw dogs those ruminants like no man has ever seen! In fact, many men, many big tough men, Marines and SWAT cops, have said to him "Sir, Sir! And no one calls you Sir more than we do, Sir! Please drop your drawers and bang this goat, so we can all see how to be a heroic goat fucker like you, Sir!" They say it while literally crying.
gmtom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 91d
People won't even stop watching movies by James Gunn, there's no hope for them turning on Trump
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 91d
What did he do? All I could find is articles about his old edgy jokes that the alt-right dug up to get him cancelled. Which waa retaliation for him criticizing the goatfucker in Chief.
I mean they were nasty jokes, sure. But I don’t think he’s been accused of rape, much less goatrape?
gmtom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 91d
Multiple "edgy jokes" about being a pedophile and raping kids, posted back and forth with a guy who was later found to own large amounts of CSAM.
That same guy also hosted multiple pedophilia themed house parties that James Gunn attended dressed as a catholic priest, and the women were dressed as little girls.....
So I think it's pretty obvious he's a pedophile.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 91d
This is actually all pretty unclear and anything's possible.
According to him, that was his reaction when he interacted with someone he actually knew was a pedophile.
Said friend of his WAS sued for grooming a 15 year old and it supposedly lasted 2 years (the sexual relationship that is), but that was a civil case and they settled out of court. There's no criminal case and nothing about CSAM I could find. No idea if they're still friends either.
I can't find a single rape accusation against Gunn either, let alone a CSA accusation. No lawsuits, no criminal proceedings.
What we DO know is that he told Ben Shapiro off for his old jokes and then someone (with a history of rape jokes of his own, ironically) went through his tweets from 10 years prior to find his horrible jokes. So he's a hypocrite for sure. He also criticized Trump and this was the era of "everyone on the left is a pedophile or groomer" from Trump supporters. People were claiming he posted actual links to CSAM. He did not. Then some claimed he deleted 10k pedo joke tweets. He did not, he mass deleted 10k tweets at once, but only about ~20 pedo jokes were found, of which most were not actually pedo jokes but taken out of context. At the end what was left as actually unquestionably jokes about pedophilia were like 5 or 6 jokes.
Unhealthy obsession? Sure. I wouldn't let him near my kid, I can tell you that. Can we be sure he's at any point in his life consumed CSAM or abused a minor? Not really, because there's no evidence of either and even IF he's attracted to minors, that in of itself is not a crime, but a psychiatric disorder.
The other things that got glossed over were his jokes about Jews, AIDS, LGBT people, etc. As he said himself, in that era he was just trying to entertain or grab attention through shock value. And tbf, way too many people were in the 00s on the internet. Only morons did it on social media under their own names though, most people stuck to pseudonymous forums.
gmtom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 90d
Like I said, nothing strong enough that he could be convicted, but when a guy who goes to pedophilia themed parties says "I'm a pedophile", even as a "joke" I'm going to just assume they're a pedo, even if he calls out other pedos.
And it's not like he's such a genius and vital part of our culture that we need to find justification for him.
d_o_o_m_g_u_y@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 89d
Huh
zxqwas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 91d
Hypothetically, what would you expect to observe if someone is hated by about half the world for anything unrelated to goats?
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 91d
None because they regularly denied it
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · -24 pts · 91d
still innocent until proven guilty
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 36 pts · 91d
That's the thing, he has been proven guilty. Loads of testimonies and more.
It's just that the broken american justice system hasn't yet convicted him.
capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 91d
Alright then... Supreme Court docket
Here's some Wikipedia reading
And let's not forget this classic gem
bstix@feddit.dk · 14 pts · 91d
The question wasn't about proof.
It's more like: If a guy is known for shitting his pants and it smells like shit when he's around, are you going to require proof of shit in his pants before you deny him sitting in your brand new couch?
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 91d
JD has his limits too.
Akrenion@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 91d
In the eye of the law, yes. Public opinion is allowed to be different. But you have one good point. The text does not mention how they are stalling and hindering the investigations despite their promise to open the files.
redwattlebird@thelemmy.club · 11 pts · 91d
Only works if you have a functional and fair justice system (which you don't).
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 91d
I guess the dozens of convictions just weren't enough huh
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 91d
That’s not in the hypothetical scenario in this image
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 90d
And nothing happens in a vacuum